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    Posted: 09/February/2020 at 22:45
So I've watched all 4 of the week 1 games and I gotta say it's not bad. The players and everyone else are having week 1 of the NFL pre-season hiccups, but I fully expect that by week 6 or so the teams will have their shit figured out and playing like well-oiled machines just like in mid-season in the NFL, and the games will be pretty damned good.

The transparency in of the review process is fantastic. NFL needs to do this ASAP. I also appreciate the commentators explaining the quarterback calls as they're made so you can get an idea of what they ought to be attempting to do before they hike the ball.

I could take or leave the player interviews post play, but it's kind of interesting.

I actually hope this incarnation of the XFL gains traction with attendance as well as TV audiences because this is legit football, and it's worth watching especially seeing as it starts after the NFL's superbowl.

Vince might just have something with this.
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All good points Rico. I didn't watch all the games (got called into work on Sunday) but based on what I saw, I echo Rico's opinions.

The only thing I'd like to see them drop is the in-game player interviews. I don't need to hear from some out-of-breath player mere seconds after scoring. 

The mic'ed up refs do make the officiating much clearer. Which help given some of the different rules the XFL uses versus NFL or NCAA. Not sure the NFL would go for that, especially not the NFL ref union.  

Overall the games felt faster-paced than NFL, but not quite as fast as Arena Football. Still I hope that quality of play improves. At times, sloppy play made it was clear why these guys weren't in the NFL. But given this was the pre-season and the teams only have a short training camp, there's plenty of room for improvement. Hopefully, the league will be fairly well balanced and remain competitive for the remainder of the season.  
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I watched a few games over the weekend and enjoyed what I saw. It's of course not as good as the NFL but it's a fair alternative on the NFL offseason. I'll voice some of my thoughts when I respond to a few quotes. 

Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

I also appreciate the commentators explaining the quarterback calls as they're made so you can get an idea of what they ought to be attempting to do before they hike the ball.

Tony Romo already does this anyway when he calls NFL games; only he doesn't need to actually hear any play call made. Tongue

Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

I actually hope this incarnation of the XFL gains traction with attendance as well as TV audiences because this is legit football, and it's worth watching especially seeing as it starts after the NFL's superbowl.

Vince might just have something with this.

I agree. As I said in the original XFL thread, (I decided not to merge the two as that thread was more based upon the looking at it from a past perspective and was in the wrestling section anyway) But I have always said that the 2001 incarnation of this league could have panned out had Vince stuck with it a little while longer. I firmly believe it would have slowly gained traction.

But it seems this time around the league is being taken a lot more seriously by the main sports channels and is getting coverage from both ESPN and the NFL Network. Of course the fact that ABC owns ESPN (and ABC broadcasts the games) helps, but still the XFL is being taken a lot more seriously nonetheless. I do hope it gains even more traction and lasts this time around.  

Originally posted by thundarr2000 thundarr2000 wrote:

The mic'ed up refs do make the officiating much clearer. Which help given some of the different rules the XFL uses versus NFL or NCAA. Not sure the NFL would go for that, especially not the NFL ref union.

Good point about the ref union. We all know Vince's thoughts on that.  

Originally posted by thundarr2000 thundarr2000 wrote:

Overall the games felt faster-paced than NFL, but not quite as fast as Arena Football. Still I hope that quality of play improves. At times, sloppy play made it was clear why these guys weren't in the NFL.

To me the pace of play is a tad fast for what I would prefer. It's not just that I'm used to the NFL; but I actually think the pace between snaps in the NFL is ideal as a few more seconds on the play clock allows more time to plan, read the defense, and adjust if necessary. The cerebral game is present in the NFL. This is lost in the XFL for the benefit of speed. 

I agree the quality of play is a tad lower but I am sure as player's get into their groove and teams build chemistry that will steadily improve.  



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I think the poor play had as much to do with being rusty and not yet up the "mid-season" form as it does not being NFL caliber players. Of course only time till tell there.

Overall it appears the XFL is getting universally positive reactions from the piblic. It will be interesting to see her w they grow over time.
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So I see the XFL already had it's first firing. Pepper Johnson, whom of course played on the defense of Bill Parcells' Giants with Lawrence Taylor, was let go as defensive coordinator of the Los Angeles Wildcats. 

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My wife and I have had this on every game, but neither of us is especially invested still. The games are getting better imo, as is the officiating. I don't know how the xfl as a whole is doing, but the product itself seems to be getting better and considering it was already pretty good to begin with, as long as they keep up viewership this could actually develop into a staple of  televised American professional sports.

Then again, I haven't been paying attention to ratings, so maybe that's just too poor and it'll did in a season.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

My wife and I have had this on every game, but neither of us is especially invested still.

I'm kind of in the same boat. I guess with me the thing is that when it comes to any sport I am more invested if I have a favorite team or am rooting for somebody; and I haven't quite landed on a favorite team in the new version of the XFL yet (if I remember right in the original XFL I liked the New York/New Jersey Hitmen.) Sports including wrestling is always more exciting when you root for someone. Plus I'm not as invested as it's not like the NFL where it was around before I was born where I grew up watching it and the league championship means something. Yet.

I enjoy the game of football itself and could watch an XFL game if I have spare time but as you I'm not super into it at the moment.   

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I think that's where a lot of people are with the XFL. As long as it doesn't lose too many viewers, and they can continue to eke out an existence, as time goes on it ought to grow because the investment in the teams will only come with time, and playing good football.

They still have yet to play great football, but the best I can say is that it's not bad.
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Originally posted by ESPN ESPN wrote:

The XFL canceled its regular season Thursday amid the spread of the coronavirus.

The move followed similar cancellations and postponements by the NBA, NHL, NCAA, MLS and Major League Baseball, among others.

In its first season since its aborted debut in 2001, the XFL completed half of its scheduled 10-week season. It had been slated to conclude April 12 before two weeks of postseason play. There was no immediate word Thursday about a potential attempt to conduct playoffs.

The XFL has given its players approval to sign with NFL teams any time after they pass exit physicals Friday, sources told ESPN. Originally, XFL contracts said players could not sign with NFL teams until after the XFL playoffs.

Despite the cancellation, the league said all players will be paid their base pay and benefits for the regular season, while ticket holders will receive refunds or credit toward future games.

"The XFL is committed to playing a full season in 2021 and future years," the league said in a statement.

So the XFL's season ends with a whimper. While I didn't watch every game, I'm still hopeful that they return next year and get to complete a season. 
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Originally posted by thundarr2000 thundarr2000 wrote:

Originally posted by ESPN ESPN wrote:

The XFL canceled its regular season Thursday amid the spread of the coronavirus.

The move followed similar cancellations and postponements by the NBA, NHL, NCAA, MLS and Major League Baseball, among others.

In its first season since its aborted debut in 2001, the XFL completed half of its scheduled 10-week season. It had been slated to conclude April 12 before two weeks of postseason play. There was no immediate word Thursday about a potential attempt to conduct playoffs.

The XFL has given its players approval to sign with NFL teams any time after they pass exit physicals Friday, sources told ESPN. Originally, XFL contracts said players could not sign with NFL teams until after the XFL playoffs.

Despite the cancellation, the league said all players will be paid their base pay and benefits for the regular season, while ticket holders will receive refunds or credit toward future games.

"The XFL is committed to playing a full season in 2021 and future years," the league said in a statement.


So the XFL's season ends with a whimper. While I didn't watch every game, I'm still hopeful that they return next year and get to complete a season. 


I know there are bigger issues involved than football here; but really this is the last thing Vince needed. It has long been said that so many of Vince's outside of wrestling ventures are destined for failure. Them just as it looks like he can get this football dream of his somewhat running with a level of promise, a global virus pandemic occurs. Angry

I can see this all being a part of a documentary in 10 years (the old ESPN 30 for 30 on the original launch of the XFL was good.) 


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