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    Posted: 02/February/2016 at 14:56
See this woman? Hate this woman, Sasha Banks. Truly a heinous bitch.



The Woman in the other picture below? LOVE that woman, Mercedes Kaestner-Varnado. Sweet, goofy, funny, wonderful person.



The kicker? They're the same person.

I've watched wrestling since I was a little kid, and I've long known that frequently, the worst onscreen villains, like Ric Flair, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Andre the Giant, Big Van Vader, Triple H, and others are the sweetest guys in real life. So it is no surprise that the same holds true for this young woman. What I can't get over is how drastic the change is.

Stone Cold Steve Austin made a name for himself as the toughest SOB on the planet, yet IRL he is a real laid back fun loving guy, but behind that you can see in his eyes the bionic redneck character he played for so many years is lurking and can come to the forefront at any time.

Mick Foley is a hardcore legend. He has competed in barbed wire matches, he has had his ear ripped off in the ring, his tooth knocked up into his nasal cavity, he has fallen 20 ft through a table not rigged to break, slammed through the top of a steel cage whose roof was not supposed to break away, slammed through a table that was in flames. He is one tough, mean, and nasty character. But today he spends his time in comedy clubs making people laugh and the highlight of his year is the holidays because all his long wild hair and that grizzly beard of his has turned snow white and he looks just like Santa Claus, and he volunteers anywhere and everywhere he can to play Santa Claus for the kids. And as unbelievably teddy-bear-esque as he is, sometimes he will give you a look, and you can see that the crazy violent Cactus Jack is still in there.

There is no trace of Sasha Banks in Mercedes. How she can turn herself into such a horrible vile character is beyond me.

Mercedes is just one of the women revolutionizing the wwe lately. Last year Mercedes and her partner, Pamela Martinez won the fan chosen match of the year, the first time a women's match has ever taken that honor for Sasha Banks vs Bayley at Summerslam weekend. Together with Martinez, Ashley Fliehr (aka Charlotte Flair, Ric Flair's daughter), and Rebecca Quin (aka Becky Lynch), and Saraya-Jade Bevis (aka Paige), Mercedes is changing the culture and the belief in the wwe that it is just a show/sport for men.

These 5 women are legitimately the best part of the show, and while just 5 years ago the division was abysmal, they have turned it around to the point where Ronda Rousey wants in, and has publically stated there is no way she doesn't join (once all her other conflicting contractual agreements with UFC are fulfilled). They bring an athleticism to their matches the likes I haven't seen since the late 80's/early 90's when Bret The Hitman Hart, Mr. Perfect, and Randy Macho Man Savage were working together, and those guys all ended up in the hall of fame.

WWE has spent the last 9 years rebuilding their name, and reputation, and that they have been able to organically put together 5 women of different races/ethnic backgrounds (Mercedes is Snoop Dogg's cousin, Ashley is the blonde southern girl, Martinez is a latina from San Jose, Ca., Quin is a heavily accented Irish lass, and Paige is a ghostly white Gothic looking girl from Norwich England, and also about to become the sixth and hardest hitting member of this group is Kanako Urai from Japan) and allow them a chance to become show stealing, main event worthy, award winning performers says a lot about how the company has changed under the leadership of Vince McMahon's daughter, Stephanie and her husband Paul Levesque (aka Triple H).

Edited by Rico Len - 03/February/2016 at 16:06
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Just quietly, Piper, HHH and Flair were legendary assholes in their time. Vader was pretty violently unpleasant if he took a dislike to you, as well. They might have softened up in their old age, but they definitely lived the gimmick at various points. I certainly wouldn't call them "sweet" in any case.

As for women's wrestling, I really just cannot get behind it. I don't think I'll ever be able to. I started watching in 05, when you had Trish, Lita and models who couldn't wrestle. Within two years Trish and Lita were gone, and the likes of Mickie James and Beth Phoenix were good, but the division was basically down the shitter at that stage. It's been 11 years of near-constant rubbish, and because of that I've basically been conditioned to not take women seriously. Unfortunately, I'm far from the only one like that, and I don't think the women's division is ever going to be a legitimately big deal. Not far AT LEAST five years, anyway, and that's only if they continue doing nothing but delivering quality in all areas.

I'd give Sasha a crazy smashing though, goddamn.
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Originally posted by Raven Raven wrote:

Just quietly, Piper, HHH and Flair were legendary assholes in their time. Vader was pretty violently unpleasant if he took a dislike to you, as well. They might have softened up in their old age, but they definitely lived the gimmick at various points. I certainly wouldn't call them "sweet" in any case.

As for women's wrestling, I really just cannot get behind it. I don't think I'll ever be able to. I started watching in 05, when you had Trish, Lita and models who couldn't wrestle. Within two years Trish and Lita were gone, and the likes of Mickie James and Beth Phoenix were good, but the division was basically down the shitter at that stage. It's been 11 years of near-constant rubbish, and because of that I've basically been conditioned to not take women seriously. Unfortunately, I'm far from the only one like that, and I don't think the women's division is ever going to be a legitimately big deal. Not far AT LEAST five years, anyway, and that's only if they continue doing nothing but delivering quality in all areas.

I'd give Sasha a crazy smashing though, goddamn.


I was very much the same all the way through the supposed NXT revolution of Women's wrestling, years of being conditioned to see the ladies as nothing more than eye candy and to treat the short sloppy looking matches as toilet break time meant that I just couldn't take the girls matches seriously despite all the critical acclaim they were getting.

However I will say now that Charlotte, Becky, Sasha and Paige, and to a lesser extent Bayley, Asuka, Nia Jax and Nikki Bella have finally got me looking at the Divas division in a new light and I'm now able to get emotionally invested in the matches and storylines now WWE are actually putting time and effort in to them, but it did take me a while!
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It is still an ongoing process too.

I mean, right now the big deal is that the divas get 2 segments a show and at least one of those segments is a decent length match.

It is rather ironic that I posted this piece I wrote a few days ago today the day after Sasha Banks turns face.

If Dolph Ziggler hadn't pinned Kevin Owens the same night, I would have said Sasha's segment was by far the highlight of the night.

If the women's division is going to get any real traction though they are going to need consistency in the quality of their work and the amount of time they are given. Right now they are getting what they need, but if it gets taken away, all this work was for nothing.

Becky Lynch is in a tight spot ATM, because she just failed to capture the divas Championship on her first try. Now, in the men's division it means nothing, but that is not how the women's division has been booked in years. Any man could shrug off this loss, and still keep going because they'll get time and exposure to keep fresh in people's minds, but the women don't have that same opportunity.

Becky being able to stay over with the fans after being called irrelevant by Paige and then losing to Charlotte would be hard for anyone to bounce back from right away without a lot of mic and ring time and wins. If she can, it will be a big milestone for the division as a whole.

I don't much expect any main events on Raw forthcoming unless it involves Stephanie, but there is no reason they can't generate louder chants of NXT! like when Becky and Sasha had each others backs against Naomi and Tamina. That NXT chant they got was a very good thing because it shows subscribers are watching NXT and appreciate that kind of programming/booking showing up on Raw. The bigger and louder the NXT! chants anyone can generate (male or female) the more likely it is we will see that same kind of production again on future episodes of Raw.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

(Mercedes is Snoop Dogg's neice,

Don't want to contradict you but I'm pretty certain that Sasha Banks is Snoop Dogg's cousin, not niece...at least, that's what I've been told for so long.
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Damn... that's embarrassing... my bad. You're right...
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No problem, it happens :)
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