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If Taker does this last match then I feel his loss to Roman was a waste of time then he has done everything he needs to do in the ring and given the WWE everything he's got (cue Dark Knight rises scene). 


The match with Cena just wouldn't be worth anymore injuries Taker would pick up.
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Cena is pretty safe though and experienced and professional enough to know both that he needs to carry the match make Undertaker look good and hopefully lobby strongly to Vince for taking the loss.

Usually a vet loses their last match, but Taker has already done that and given all he has to that end. In this case it would be more of a matter of giving him a good send-off otherwise why pair him with Cena? Cena needs to lose if they go through with this, and if anyone can pull out one last top quality match from Taker and keep him safe, then Cena is the man. Literally no one except for Orton could pull off this kind of thing.

Now as far as stories are concerned... I have no idea how they could pull this off well. Cena really would have to play heel, even if he doesn't make a legit full turn.
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In big match feuds like this Cena normally excels so if this match happens I look forward to it. I've really enjoyed Cena when he's been put in major feuds with guys like The Rock, Batista, Roman Reigns and Shawn Michaels.

The only thing is though Samoa Joe seemed to put a target on Cena on Raw teasing a possible feud, Joe vs Cena is a feud that has been rumoured for a while now but has still yet to happen.
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Match Card & Storyline

I think the match card has been set up pritty clearly for Wrestlemania 34 already but with a few creative hick ups because they don't want to bite the bullet and take a risk. Like we have seen in past manias when we didn't get to see some dream matches happen like Sting vs Taker or Goldberg vs Taker. But I think that they can make up for it.


The main event will be Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns for the WWE Universal Championship

Raw have the Elimination Chamber pay per view the year so I think that the Royal Rumble match winner for men will be Shinsuke Nakamura. So with Lesnar most likely not going to fight on a ppv like Elimination Chamber b4 WM34 then the main chamber match will be the number one contendership for the Universal title at Wrestlemania. So the big dog wins his first Chamber match after dropping the Intercontinental Championship to Miz at Royal Rumble. Reigns will regain momentum from the chamber win and beat Lesnar at mania to win his first universal championship and be the first guy to kick out of the F5 this year.


Main event match 2 will be The Undertaker vs John Cena in s Career vs Career Hell in a Cell Match

**See my earlier post for more information on this**


Main event match 3 will be Aj Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamura for the WWE Championship

Shinsuke Nakamura wins the Royal Rumble match and goes on to beat Styles in the main event winning his first WWE World Championship.
Styles retains his title until mania


Match 4 will be Charlotte Flair vs Sasha Banks vs Becky Lynch vs Bayley for the Smackdown Live Womens Championship

I think they should swap some superstars around after the Rumble to freshen things up before and the four horsewomen fatal four way for the womens title is mania caliber


Auska vs Paige-Raw Womens Championship Match

Auska will win the Raw Women's Championship off Alexia Bliss at Royal Rumble and Paige will beat her at Mania to end the streak. Yes I'm sorry but it's Paige and a full time wrestler has to lose some time.


**OPTIONS**
Triple H or Goldberg vs Braun Strowman
Dolph Ziggler vs Seth Rollins vs Bray Wyatt vs Bobby Roode vs Ricochet vs Neville-United States Championship Ladder Match
The Miz vs Samoa Joe-Intercontinental Championship Match
Balor Club vs New Day
Kevin Owens vs Sami Zayn
Daniel Bryan vs Shane mcmahon
Kurt Angle vs Triple H or Jason Jordan
Usos vs Bludgeon Brothers-Smackdown Live Tag Team Championship
The Bar vs War Machine-Raw Tag Team Championship
In wrestling training. But very interested in fantasy booking. Creative ideas. Rumours & amazing spontanious Pro-Wrestling thoughts. From this New zealand Wrestlehead of mine. Cody.R is my guy 2 btw
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Wrestlemania is taking shape now and here is what I think will be the card or at least something similar.

Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns - WWE Universal Title

AJ Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamura - WWE Title

Jinder Mahal vs Dolph Ziggler vs Baron Corbin vs Bobby Roode vs Mojo Rawley vs Rusev - US Title six pack challenge

The Miz vs Elias vs Samoa Joe - Intercontinental Title

The Usos vs The New Day vs The Bludgeon Brothers vs Benjamin/ Gable - Ladder match for Tag-Titles

The Undertaker vs John Cena

Triple H vs Braun Strowman

Seth Rollins, Jason Jordan and Kurt Angle vs The Balor Club

Shane McMahon and Daniel Bryan vs Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn

Charlotte vs Ronda Rousey - WWE Women's Title

Asuka vs Paige - WWE Women's Title

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Originally posted by Dipton Daredevil Dipton Daredevil wrote:

The Undertaker vs John Cena match will indeed happen at Wrestlemania 34 I believe. I aslo go out on a creative limb and say that a dream match of sorts may become even more special as the two part timers put theur careers on the line inside Hell in a Cell on the grandest stage of them all.

Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

At first I was sceptical but now I do believe Cena vs The Undertaker will happen at Wrestlemania this year. 

I’m calling it now, on the 25th anniversary Raw we will see Taker come out and officially announce his retirement from the ring before Cena comes out and issues his challenge which will see Undertaker work one more match. I think this was always the plan and was why they have saved Cena vs Taker until now when they’ve had several opportunities to do the match previously.

The funny thing is I actually have long seen a rematch between Undertaker and Roman Reigns at this year's WresteMania, and I've thought this since last year's main event. I forsesaw Undertaker coming back saying he has unfinished business, just as he did when he challenged Triple H to a rematch at WrestleMania XXVIII. 

But yes Fletch your reasoning makes sense. I heard a year ago that Undertaker was originally supposed to be in the WWE Championship match at last year's WrestleMania, possibly against Cena in the original plans. But to have Undertaker put over Reigns and then move the big Cena match to the year after is something they may have long had planned. 

I think Undertaker vs Cena, if it does happen, will be a waste of what really looks like Taker's last match, as I don't care for Cena. But, at the end of the day I suppose I can live with it. It is a big name match up that I have wanted to see since at last 2007. I just place so much importance on every Undertaker match now as every one might really be "it" for him. 
 
That all being said, it would be a tragedy if Taker looses. With the meaning of the former streak being so talked about and hyped, every Undertaker WrestleMania loss seems amplified. I myself never wanted the streak to end in the first place. But I agree with Rico that he's given all he can. 

But as to me the Undertaker match is the highlight of most WrestleManias in the past 15 years, and he is one of the all time greats, I would rather see him lose than not compete at all. 

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The Undertaker's streak ending at the hands of Brock Lesnar still ranks as a bizarre decision because think what a monumental win it would have been for Roman Reigns last year if he'd ended the streak, it would have made that moment on Raw the next night all the more sweet for him as he gloats this is my yard now knowing he put the first loss in the column for The Undertaker at Wrestlemania.

Lesnar has gained little from it, an argument can be made that Brock began his run of dominance following that victory but they could have achieved that by having him steamroll through some other top talents and defeat Taker soundly at a non-Wrestlemania event. In any rate Lesnar already had big star status before he upset Taker at Mania. It would have been a career making win for Reigns but instead they handed it to the part-timer who's made it perfectly clear he's only in it for the money and wrestles less than ten televised matches a year.

Anyway point is yes I feel Undertaker needs to beat Cena, let him end his career on a high note, especially after they screwed up with the streak.

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Truth is his WrestleMania streak is pretty realistic. Perfect, then a loss, a win or so, another loss, probably another loss, and then retirement. Makes sense if you look at it in the light of comparing it to an MMA record.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Truth is his WrestleMania streak is pretty realistic. Perfect, then a loss, a win or so, another loss, probably another loss, and then retirement. Makes sense if you look at it in the light of comparing it to an MMA record.


There is that to it yeah but I just don’t get why Lesnar was chosen, its almost a slap in the face to the full time roster as so many of them could have built their career on that win. Lesnar doesn’t care what happens as long as he’s paid.

The only logic I can see is if they wanted Reigns to beat him two years later then perhaps they were worried that ending the streak would make fans reject him for ever so they took that burden out of the scenario with Lesnar, but I’m not sure that WWE would have had Roman’s win over The Undertaker planned that far in advance.

Maybe it was a case of they wanted the streak finished and at the time Lesnar was the only one considered a dominant enough talent to be able to realistically beat The Undertaker at Wrestlemania after so many top guys had failed previously.
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The decision to have Lesnar be the one to end the streak was one of the worst decisions they could ever have done even if it was only for the shock factor, I remember seeing the match and seeing the ref count the three I was just stunned and then it was quickly replaced with anger I didn't even finish watching the PPV so didn't see Daniel Brian win the WWE title I still haven't to this day. 


My personal opinion is that Taker's streak was too iconic to break it was apart of him, yes he is a legend in his own right bringing some of the best matches I have ever seen but the streak it was something special, no one thought much of it until he was 10-0 that was when the streak really came into fruitation after finishing off a great match with Ric Flair. yes he's had some duds like the casket match with Mark Henry or his match with Giant Gonzalez that was a big bore but he's also had some of the best matches a wrestler could possibly have like his 2 matches with Shawn Micheals. 


last year Taker should've been 25-0 and that's how he should have ended things not 23-2 I hate that the loss coloumn isn't zero and I will hate that for as long as it is shown I even found myself hoping that there was some over the top storyline to erase the 1 loss but then I thought it wouldn't change things at all.

Should he come back and face Cena for one truly last match then so be it but I really hope he wins the match if he loses then the hate Cena would get would be huge. 

My issue with Taker returning is his hip it was affecting his performance big time last year and it was clear as day especially when he chokeslammed Brawn Strownman he was in so much pain just doing that, that and the match itself was trash definitely one of his and Romans worse and I honestly think Roman was so hesistant during the match do a lot of physical moves purely so he didn't hurt him more then he was.
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