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* Sorry Fletch but i'm going to have to disagree with you 100% LOL
 
* All the good women on one roster would mean certain good ones would hardly ever get close to the belt, whilst someone not half as good might be champion on another brand.
 
* Another plus to having the rosters evenly split is so the good half can teach the bad half to improve. I mean what's a good wrestler going to learn off another good wrestler? Not as much as a shit one would.
 
* The last point would be that those on the good roster would know about it so might get complacent. The ones on the shit roster will realise it and might lose their drive for being rated so lowly.
 
I like how the rosters are currently Smile
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well, even when the good ones are placed on the rosters with the shitty ones--see the SmackDown divas diva for evidence---they don't get used.  Look at Natalya and Victoria before she retired for evidence of that also.

Katie Lea and Natalya are stuck on ECW where none of those ditzsy ones that need teaching are.  Both of these ladies could teach as well as be big parts of the ladies division.  ECW is a good "training" ground but there are no women on there but two that already know what they are doing while in the ring. Send clods like Maria, Eve, Candice and even Michelle over to ECW to get some more teachings taught to them.
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ECW is the training brand so it would make far more sense to have the likes of Eve, Maria, Layla and Kelly Kelly on the brand.

Katie Lea and Nattie are accomplished workers so having them on ECW makes no sense.

Admin does make some valid points in his post but i dont think there are enough decent workers among the women to make up two successfull rosters, WWE will always employ women for their looks alone, these women will often never become good wrestlers, Stacey Kibler and Tori Wilson for example were always horrible workers.

That is why i would suggest WWE have one serious womens division featuring decent action from the girls who can actually work.

The alternative is WWE unify womens titles and just make the womens title exclusive to one brand again or exclusive to all three brands, the brand extension is far more relaxed these days anyway with talent crossing over almost every week.
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I'd like to see WWE put some signifigance back on the Women's Division. There are some pretty good wrestlers in the Women's Division. It's just a shame that this Division doesn't get the respect it deserves. When you have Mickie James, Katie Lea, Natalya Neidhart, and Melina on the roster, that's a pretty solid Division. Yes, Michelle, Maria, Kelly Kelly, and the others need help. But, I believe that Michelle is closest to being a solid wrestler. Her style is pretty brutal what with the hard clotheslines, kicks, and slams mixed with the submission moves she uses. She could be amazing with a little bit more training and experience.
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Right time for a long overdue bump because the women's division is overated. Not saying it's not alright but after the years of Kelly Kelly, Aksana, Kaitlyn etc it's bound to look good, so here's a few views.......

Charlotte: Overated because of her dad. Stole too much of his gimmick instead of being her own person.

Sasha: Too small in height and build to be taken seriously as a 'boss'. Don't like her chavvy persona.

Bayley: Average mic skills, average ring skills and don't like her cheesy gimmick.

Alicia Fox: Never been any good and should have been let go years ago.

Paige: Ruining her career because she's got daddy issues.

Nattie: Don't mind her as a steady hand type who has her place.

Becky Lynch: One of the best of the bunch. Gimmick, mic skills and ring ability all work for her.

Mickie James: Great to have her back and she's not hogging the spotlight.

Nix Jax: Not bad in her female Braun role, but still parts of her that's green.

Naomi: Annoying dance gimmick. I don't feel the glow.

Tamina Snuka: Much like Alicia she's never been good and should have been let go years ago. Family ties probably keep her there.

Carmella: Another chavvy gimmick like Sasha and yet to see the fuss about her in ring ability.
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Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Right time for a long overdue bump because the women's division is overated. Not saying it's not alright but after the years of Kelly Kelly, Aksana, Kaitlyn etc it's bound to look good, so here's a few views.......

Charlotte: Overated because of her dad. Stole too much of his gimmick instead of being her own person.

Sasha: Too small in height and build to be taken seriously as a 'boss'. Don't like her chavvy persona.

Bayley: Average mic skills, average ring skills and don't like her cheesy gimmick.

Alicia Fox: Never been any good and should have been let go years ago.

Paige: Ruining her career because she's got daddy issues.

Nattie: Don't mind her as a steady hand type who has her place.

Becky Lynch: One of the best of the bunch. Gimmick, mic skills and ring ability all work for her.

Mickie James: Great to have her back and she's not hogging the spotlight.

Nix Jax: Not bad in her female Braun role, but still parts of her that's green.

Naomi: Annoying dance gimmick. I don't feel the glow.

Tamina Snuka: Much like Alicia she's never been good and should have been let go years ago. Family ties probably keep her there.

Carmella: Another chavvy gimmick like Sasha and yet to see the fuss about her in ring ability.


Agree about some - Naiomi is average in the ring and botch prone. The glow in the dark entrance is cool but after a while the dancing starts to get irritating as does her happy smiley character.

Carmella is still green and not great in the ring, she has personality though and is ok as a valet. Personally I'd put her back with Enzo and Cass. Her relationship with Ellsworth is dumb.

As you say Nattie is a decent veteran, a good hand, same goes for Mickie.

Nia Jax is constantly improving and I think in time will be the top star of the Women's division.


Such a shame about Paige, great talent could have become the face of WWE ladies wrestling but happy to throw all that away for a douchebag old enough to be her Dad.

Becky is great, charismatic, likeable and a great worker, plays the sympathetic face to perfection but would be interested to see her work as a heel.

Bayley I don't rate, average overrated ring skills, her constant droning on about how she always dreamed of doing this and the family friendly image is irritating, I normally skip through her promos. I get that she's a marketing dream because the kids like her, she's just not to my taste.

The two I strongly disagree with Admin about are:

Charlotte, great in the ring, she's come a long way from her early NXT days when she was green, looks like she belongs now and she's a great heel character too, best all round female performer on the roster. Plus the Flair mannerisms are fairly subtle, the robe wearing is more of a tribute.

Sasha Banks is also a great all rounder, not quite as smooth on the mic as Charlotte but still solid. She a natural heel though and doesn't suit the babyface role.
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I do think that some of the women are getting a hard deal.

Charlotte is most definitely the best of the bunch. Whilst I thought she was possibly a bit behind her peers down in NXT, since coming to the main roster she has by far and away blown the other three out of the water.

Becky and Sasha haven't been too bad, but I do think Sasha has regressed a little, either that or the others have improved and she hasn't.

Bayley has had plain shit booking since her call up. They've completed cocked up what worked in NXT, when they should have kept it all.

Alexa has impressed me too, she's still got a lot to learn but is getting there, and is getting there quickly. Carmella has a chance of doing something but she needs a lot more seasoning yet.

I'm not too sure if Nia will make it long term, again that's not her fault it's down to the booking, but i'll give her a chance.

Emma needs a proper run with the evil Emma stuff on the main roster, Natalya is a very steady hand and so is Micky.

The rest I don't really have time for to be honest. Naomi does has a brightside but she just doesn't standout for me, and the rest just yeah, less said the better.

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Charlotte and Alexa Bliss and Becky Lynch are the only ones that are better off on the main roster. Everyone else has not made any improvement or have dropped a step or two.

Sasha and Bayley were two of the most over women I've ever seen when they were down in NXT. Bayley was being talked about like she would be the next John Cena in that she was aimed directly at children, and was massively over, but she was also over with men because she was a sweet babyface girl next door type and not a supermodel, and on top of it all she was the best technician of the bunch. Seems the main roster knows nothing of building a good babyface. Bayley and Sami Zayn were untouchable babyface so over it was astounding, now look at them.

Sasha on the other hand was a horrifically bitchy heel that despite her size made up for it with her Mob Boss attitude. The problem is that she was neutered spayed by Stephanie McMahon when the two met and Stephanie took her gimmick as The Boss away. It should have never been said by Stephanie unless Sasha was going to finish it by getting into the ring with Stephanie and beat her ass.

Emma never found her groove on the main roster because her gimmicks just haven't been made for wwes apathetic audiences. Emma is easily top 10 on the roster but without a good gimmick she is going to fail. Evil Emma as we see her now is her last chance.

Charlotte is about to fail as a babyface on Smackdown and the results of that will be disastrous for the whole women's division. Unlike most sheep, I don't have faith in Smackdown creative and unless they pull the plug on Charlottes face turn or unless they do something pretty drastic Charlotte will fail as a sympathetic babyface.

Alexa Bliss so far seems to be a bullet proof bitch. But I feel she could go the same way as Charlotte if she were flipped baby.

Nia Jax I just don't care for one way or another.

Paige was a bit over rated, but still very good, and I always liked her personality from having watched total divas, but she has literally fucked it all away now.

And speaking of over rated, Naomi makes me roll my eyes every time I hear about how great an athlete she is. So what? She has bad psychology, average at best mat skills a boring personality, and a raver dance entrance that would make Jeff Hardy jealous. So what?

Becky however is brilliant on the mic and is just waiting to break a glass ceiling with a promo that puts her up there with the A-class men on the mic (the HBKs, Flairs, HHHs of the wwe, but not the S-class guys like The Rock, Hogan, Macho Man, Austin, Y2J, etc.) She is very good on the mat, has had a pretty good run, but seems to be floundering now. I am assuming she will work with Charlotte once Charlotte is babyface in full and they will be the Sasha and Bayley of Smackdown.

Mickie is old.

Natty is coasting. Probably the best techically sound wrestler in all of the wwe man or woman, but her character is lame, her mic skills are serviceable, and she doesn't really seem to be trying. She is like the Randy Orton of the women's division.

For Christ's sake put Carmella back with Cass and Enzo and let Enzo and Carmella have that old chemistry of Enzo flirting and Carmella rebuffing.
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There is going to be a large influx of women talent coming soon for the women's summer tournament.

Britt Baker is back at NXT, and I think she's in it. I think they are going after Tessa Blanchiard as well.

Britt's dating Adam Cole and Tessa is with Richochette. 

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Quote Mickie James vs. Sonya Deville: Absolution is at ringside with Sonya. Mickie starts off strong, but Sonya shuts her down with strikes. Mandy Rose gets on the apron, and the distraction leads to Sonya slamming Mickie down off the top rope. Sonjya follows up with kicks on Mickie in the ring, and drops her for a two count. More knee strikes from Sonya, but Mickie fights up to her feet and hits a rollup on Sonjya for the three count out of nowhere.

Winner: Mickie James

- After the match, Absolution starts beating down Mickie. Alexa runs down and pulls Mickie out of the ring for the save. Mickie and the announcers are all confused as to why Alexa saved Mickie.

Mickie for once was made to look strong, in getting a win without even needing to do her finisher.
 
Sonya looks to be getting (slowly) better in the ring and losing to a multi time womens champion won't harm her.
 
Alexa coming down at the end to help Mickie, is intriguing as to where it will lead with all their prior history.
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