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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22/November/2017 at 21:51
So with Paige returning and 5 women moving up from NXT...that Womens Rumble match could actually happen with err 15-20 participants.

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~~~~~~~~~ Main Roster in-ring female talent
1: Bliss
2: Asuka
3: Bayley
4: Foxx
5: Sasha
6: Paige
7: Deville
8: Mandy
9: Jax
10: Dana
11: Mickie
12: Becky
13: Charlotte
14: Natty
15: Naomi
16: Carmella
17: Nikki Bella
18: Tamina
19: Ruby
20: Sarah Logan
21: Liv Morgan
~~~~~~~~~~~ NXT in-ring female talent
22: Ember Moon
23: Nikki Cross
24: Peyton Royce
25: Billie Kay
26: Bianca Belair
27: Lacey Evans
28: Kairi Sane
29: Aliyah
30: Shayna Baszler
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Women easily attainable for surprise/guest spots
31: Ronda Rousey
32: Kelly Kelly
33: Trish Stratus
34: Lita
35: Beth Phoenix
36: Michelle McCool
37: Brie Bella
38: Eve Torres


20 women is a minimum. For time restraints they should probably not go clear up to 30, yet obviously they could, even if they had 2 women's championship matches on the card, which they won't. 
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20 would have to be the absolute maximum as if they did a female Royal Rumble you'd need the Champions to not be in it so the winner can challenge one of the champions at WM.

Can you imagine Asuka starting at #1 and winning the whole thing to stay undefeated?

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I would like to see Balor win the Rumble...gonna prolly be Roman but I want Balor to win. 

But yeah they want Balor to go in the ME but since he returned from injury he hasn't had anything in the way of meaningful feuds....I would have thrown the IC Title on him to get him back on track. Heres hoping he can get back on the ME scene and back to having an actual Universal title run. But Beast Incarnate vs Demon King could have had a good lead up.
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Originally posted by Baz Baz wrote:

20 would have to be the absolute maximum as if they did a female Royal Rumble you'd need the Champions to not be in it so the winner can challenge one of the champions at WM.

Can you imagine Asuka starting at #1 and winning the whole thing to stay undefeated?

Yeah I think 20 is the sweet spot. 30 is pushing it for time constraints, though they could definitely do it, but anything less than 15 just seems kind of half-assed.

Asuka starting early and lasting would be great. I don't think I'd want to see the very first women's royal rumble have a woman start at 1 and last till the end to win it though, but if Asuka were to pull a Ric Flair type victory where she started at 3 or 4 or 5, and then lasted long enough to win, then that'd be great.

Also it might be fun to see the Bella twins pull off twin magic in a Rumble match.

The women's rumble would also be a pretty good way to set up horsewomen vs horsewomen as well if they still think they're going to do that.

So, question???

If you were going to book the Royal Rumble, and you had a 30-man Rumble and a 20-woman Rumble on the card and about 3-4 other high profile matches where would you put the women's Rumble match? Would it open the show, and then have the other matches, and then finish with the men's? Or would you have all the other matches, then the women's and then the men's? Or would you do a couple of matches, then the women's, then another couple matches, and then the men's?
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

So, question???

If you were going to book the Royal Rumble, and you had a 30-man Rumble and a 20-woman Rumble on the card and about 3-4 other high profile matches where would you put the women's Rumble match? Would it open the show, and then have the other matches, and then finish with the men's? Or would you have all the other matches, then the women's and then the men's? Or would you do a couple of matches, then the women's, then another couple matches, and then the men's?



I/C - Title
S/D Tag Title
S/D - Womans
Womens Rumble
Raw - Womens
US - Title
Raw Tag Title
SD - World Title
Raw - Universal Title
Men's Rumble

Prolly like that with the number 29 and 30 spots being filled by the losers of the title matches. Rumble is a 4 hour show usually going over by 30 odd minutes. As long as they don't mess about with putting shitty music acts or Long ass promos that could be do able 


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Originally posted by LennyComa LennyComa wrote:


I/C - Title
S/D Tag Title
S/D - Womans
Womens Rumble
Raw - Womens
US - Title
Raw Tag Title
SD - World Title
Raw - Universal Title
Men's Rumble

Prolly like that with the number 29 and 30 spots being filled by the losers of the title matches. Rumble is a 4 hour show usually going over by 30 odd minutes. As long as they don't mess about with putting shitty music acts or Long ass promos that could be do able 
 
That PPV would drag as it's got far too many matches on the card.
 
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As we recently reported, there has been talk of an all-women's Royal Rumble match at the WWE joint-brand pay-per-view in January. In addition to the report that we posted earlier this week via the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, which stemmed from speculation about the concept following Paige's main roster return and multiple NXT female call-ups this week, another mainstream outlet is reporting the story.

The Sun out of the United Kingdom is the latest to pick up on the speculation and hype about the possibility due to the recent influx of main roster female talent.

"But now the event is set to be confirmed, although the details remain scarce and it is possible it may not have entrants as in the male equivalent," wrote The Sun. "A number of women on the roster have already spoken on the possibility of a women's Rumble."

It's worth noting that WWE main roster Superstar Bayley also spoke about the subject during a recent appearance on The Montgomery Advertiser's "Piledriver" podcast.

"I kind of honestly think we need a few more girls to do something like that because the guys have 30 men," Bayley said during the interview. "We don't have many girls. Even if it was Raw and Smackdown combined, I don't think it would make it 20. If we had more girls brought in, maybe like NXT girls, that would be really cool and I think it would be a lot of fun."

WWE Royal Rumble 2018 is scheduled to go down live on pay-per-view and via the WWE Network on Sunday, January 28, 2018 from the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

There aren't enough decent women on the roster to make this idea a success.
 
If they had enough relevant women, all well known that's fine. But it looks like if it happens it would be people called up just for the sake of it, to make up numbers just so it can happen.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

~~~~~~~~~ Main Roster in-ring female talent
1: Bliss
2: Asuka
3: Bayley
4: Foxx
5: Sasha
6: Paige
7: Deville
8: Mandy
9: Jax
10: Dana
11: Mickie
12: Becky
13: Charlotte
14: Natty
15: Naomi
16: Carmella
17: Nikki Bella
18: Tamina
19: Ruby
20: Sarah Logan
21: Liv Morgan
~~~~~~~~~~~ NXT in-ring female talent
22: Ember Moon
23: Nikki Cross
24: Peyton Royce
25: Billie Kay
26: Bianca Belair
27: Lacey Evans
28: Kairi Sane
29: Aliyah
30: Shayna Baszler
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Women easily attainable for surprise/guest spots
31: Ronda Rousey
32: Kelly Kelly
33: Trish Stratus
34: Lita
35: Beth Phoenix
36: Michelle McCool
37: Brie Bella
38: Eve Torres


20 women is a minimum. For time restraints they should probably not go clear up to 30, yet obviously they could, even if they had 2 women's championship matches on the card, which they won't. 

Let's start here; keep in mind that you've said 20 women is a minimum.

In your list you've named 21 main roster women.

1 of them isn't a main roster woman at current (Nikki Bella)

2 of them are champions and thus aren't eligible for the rumble (Bliss/Flair)

And 2 of them will more than likely be used to pad the card by entering title matches with those champions (Paige/Natalya or Ruby Riot)

So that 21 goes down to 16 in no time. Factor in any potential for injury, which WWE has to factor in, and then you have a problem.

NXT talent are not the same as immediately available WWE talent. Again, you've listed a champion, they need contenders and in addition a rumble needs to have everyone at least slightly recognisable and contrary to popular belief only a very small amount of NXT talent is recognisable to the general audience.

And finally, your 'easily available' section contains Ronda Rousey. I think you need to reconsider your definition of 'easily available' when bringing in Rousey, even for one match, would likely cost about 2 weeks of network subscriptions.

I don't think we're going to see a rumble for the women this year. I think it's coming but not yet.

Originally posted by LennyComa LennyComa wrote:

I would like to see Balor win the Rumble...gonna prolly be Roman but I want Balor to win. 

But yeah they want Balor to go in the ME but since he returned from injury he hasn't had anything in the way of meaningful feuds....I would have thrown the IC Title on him to get him back on track. Heres hoping he can get back on the ME scene and back to having an actual Universal title run. But Beast Incarnate vs Demon King could have had a good lead up.

Roman isn't winning the Rumble. He's winning the Elimination Chamber and going to mania that way. A Raw talent will only win the Rumble if Roman or Lesnar are injured going into mania.

The winner was going to be AJ Styles, as far back as Nakamura's debut. Jinder's push confused everything but they're banking on Styles holding the title so there's a high chance we're either going to see Nakamura or Zayn winning the rumble.

Originally posted by LennyComa LennyComa wrote:

Prolly like that with the number 29 and 30 spots being filled by the losers of the title matches. Rumble is a 4 hour show usually going over by 30 odd minutes. As long as they don't mess about with putting shitty music acts or Long ass promos that could be do able 

The last spots going to the losers of the title matches is a misnomer; Roman only did that because he wasn't supposed to be in the title match to begin with. Essentially since Summerslam Roman, who was playing heel, had to turn face and take Finn Balor's spot. At the Rumble he was able to go back to his heel persona because the storyline had finally played out.

It's never gone over by anything like 30 odd minutes. It does have a 2 hour pre show though. Typically for the Rumble there's no tag matches and the secondary titles are going to be pre show if they're on the show at all.
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Maybe they should compromise and just have a standard Battle Royal for the ladies, time constraints will make it difficult to have two full blown Royal Rumble matches plus it’s overkill, one Rumble match is plenty having two will take some of the shine off and it won’t be such a novelty.

Also usually the Royal Rumble features the World title matches and maybe two other undercard matches so I would expect something like:

World title match
Universal title match
Women’s Rumble/Battle Royal
Raw or Smackdown tag-title match
US or Intercontinental title match
Royal Rumble match

I personally have no interest in a Women’s Rumble match but that’s just me, I know the Women’s division has probably never been more popular than now so if they are going to do a ladies Rumble this is the time.

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Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

Let's start here; keep in mind that you've said 20 women is a minimum.

In your list you've named 21 main roster women.

1 of them isn't a main roster woman at current (Nikki Bella)

See? Where are you getting your information? I've no doubt your information is better and more reliable than mine, because I'm just going by Wikipedia, WWE.com, and various other sources, and all of them are iffy sources at best, but all of them state that Nikki Bella is ring-ready and still considered on the main roster, if inactive since WrestleMania.

Quote 2 of them are champions and thus aren't eligible for the rumble (Bliss/Flair)

And 2 of them will more than likely be used to pad the card by entering title matches with those champions (Paige/Natalya or Ruby Riot)

As you might have read though, in my post above, while they COULD have 2 women's title matches, the likelihood is that they won't. There's just not enough time to have too many matches, even if every match was a title match aside from the 2 royal rumbles, there'd still not be enough time to have every championship defended.

Quote So that 21 goes down to 16 in no time. Factor in any potential for injury, which WWE has to factor in, and then you have a problem.

NXT talent are not the same as immediately available WWE talent. Again, you've listed a champion, they need contenders and in addition a rumble needs to have everyone at least slightly recognisable and contrary to popular belief only a very small amount of NXT talent is recognisable to the general audience.

"NXT talent are not the same as immediately available WWE talent."
Yes and no. I get what you're saying, but if WWE planned for them to be in the match, they'd be there, and they'd be there at the drop of a hat. Granted there would be a bit more work to get a NXT star to fill in at the last minute, but so long as they've planned out who is going to be in the royal rumble ahead of time, and they would for the most part, then there wouldn't be any issue at all in getting them there aside from a little extra money from a scramble if something changed at the last minute.

And yes, the NXT women's champion could and arguably even SHOULD be in the royal rumble. That sparks intrigue as to whether or not Ember Moon could be the second woman to hold both titles at once.

Quote And finally, your 'easily available' section contains Ronda Rousey. I think you need to reconsider your definition of 'easily available' when bringing in Rousey, even for one match, would likely cost about 2 weeks of network subscriptions.

The question is 'easily available' relative to whom?

Relative to Gina Carano, or Cris Cyborg, or Misha Tate? Rousey is infinitely more easily attainable than those women. Rousey is training for a wrestling debut as we speak and she isn't training to go to RoH, she's training for a debut in the WWE. The question really is whether or not she's ready and the time is right? There's still the question of what her contract with the UFC is, but all indications is that Rousey is moving ahead with her life as a part time WWE superstar not as an ultimate fighter. Is Rousey more easily attainable than Brie Bella? Absolute not. However in the realm of stars that could be brought in for a surprise pop, yes, Rousey is within the realm of possibility. Especially IF (that's still a big If I'll grant you) WWE wants to go ahead with the horsewomen vs horsewomen match for Mania.

Quote I don't think we're going to see a rumble for the women this year. I think it's coming but not yet.

Honestly? Neither do I, but to all the nay-sayers out there that say the roster is too small, I just proved that they could easily have 20 women, and without a huge amount of extra work could even have 30.




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