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They really should have had AJ Styles win. It's a chink in Lesnar's armor, the belt wouldn't have been taken from Lesnar, plus Balor's beaten AJ Styles.

This is just another reason why Strowman should face Lesnar to a draw where they both leave in an ambulance. It's proof that Strowman's getting better. The first time Strowman lost a hard battle, the second time Strowman didn't lose and Lesnar left in an ambulance, but he didn't win (and also left in an ambulance). Third time's the charm, the third time he can beat Lesnar.

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Alternatively, a quality shit-eating heel (like The Miz) with a stronger entourage could just take the piss out of Lesnar and practically steal the title away from him. Maybe someone like Adam Cole??? Someone who is so small and scrawny, you know Lesnar could wrap his fist and just squeeze and pop like a grape, but he never gets to get his hands on him so he frustrates Lesnar to death. Maybe even someone who's not necessarily scrawny but still small, like Eric Young with Sanity at his back.

/sigh I'd be remiss not to mention it, but I don't want to either... Also Roman Reigns with Rollins and Ambrose to back him up. This is probably the least appealing option, especially since Reigns SHOULD be heel to pull this kind of move, but since they don't seem to want to turn Reigns, then it'd all be done as babyface, and it'd suck even worse... but I can actually see WWE doing this kind of shit.

It'd really be kind of entertaining to see Lesnar taken out by a pipsqueak though, who used cheap heel tactics to steal the title from him and the run like crazy to stay away from him.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fletch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22/November/2017 at 17:46
They were dumb to rush the Strowman/Lesnar match, Strowman is hot right now and if I were booking WWE I would forget about Roman Reigns and have Braun built up to challenge Brock at Wrestlemania, they could have capitalised on Survivor Series by having Braun feud with and beat Triple H then have him continue his dominance by winning the Royal Rumble then challenge and defeat Lesnar at Wrestlemania. But the somewhat forgettable match Brock and Braun had a couple of months back has taken the shine off of that booking scenario.

I do agree though, Balor isn’t ready for Lesnar, his hot and cold booking has left him in a position where nobody would give him a chance in hell of defeating Brock. Maybe go with a wild card for his opponent someone like Cesaro or Bray Wyatt?
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Quote I do agree though, Balor isn’t ready for Lesnar, his hot and cold booking has left him in a position where nobody would give him a chance in hell of defeating Brock.

Yeah, just like when Lesnar's hot and cold booking left him in a position that nobody gave him a shot in hell of defeating the Undertaker at WM30. Oh wait...
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:


Quote I do agree though, Balor isn’t ready for Lesnar, his hot and cold booking has left him in a position where nobody would give him a chance in hell of defeating Brock.

Yeah, just like when Lesnar's hot and cold booking left him in a position that nobody gave him a shot in hell of defeating the Undertaker at WM30. Oh wait...


You can't compare that, The Undertaker was undefeated at Wrestlemania after more than twenty years, on any other night fans could believe that Lesnar had every chance of defeating Taker but at Mania it didn't matter who the opponent was people always expected the Deadmans hand to be raised.

Finn Balor could be wrestling Brock Lesnar at a house show, on Raw or any PPV, fans will all be expecting Brock to win, as things stand Balor is not a credible opponent. The best option for Finn at this point is a move to Smackdown as soon as WWE decide to start shaking up the roster again.
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To an extent, yes. I agree, however just because he has hot and cold booking right now doesn't mean that he could shock the world, when everyone's counting him out, and then beat Lesnar, take the title and go on a hot streak just like Lesnar did.

What's more, Balor did beat AJ Styles. That's still fresh enough in people's minds that if he were to beat Lesnar that would point to the fact that Balor did have a chance to do better against Lesnar than Styles did.

Now, obviously it's a ridiculous longshot to say that come Royal Rumble, Finn Balor's going to take the title from Brock Lesnar. That's just insane to think about. All I'm saying is that it's not so far-fetched an OPTION, that if they were to go with it, people wouldn't buy into it fairly easily.

Also, I shouldn't have to mention Jinder Mahal's WWE championship run. Balor's far more credible than that.
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I think the problem is because it’s so widely reported that WWE plan to have Roman Reigns defeat Lesnar for the title at Wrestlemania it doesn’t really matter who faces Brock at the Royal Rumble, fans expect them to just be another case of jobber fodder for Brock until he hands the title over to Reigns. WWE really need to consider changing these booking plans to prevent the predictability of it all.

You do raise a fair point in saying that Balor recently defeated AJ Styles in a great match who is now the reigning WWE Champion and this past Sunday took Lesnar to the limit and also helped produce Brock’s best match in years. So that alone gives booking reasoning to have Balor challenge.

I guess if nothing else Balor and Lesnar would have a decent match.

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Well see, that's just it, if Balor is going to lose it's a bad idea IMO. Lesnar needs to drop that damned title yesterday. They should be using him instead as some kind of Undertaker at Mania kind of character, not as WWE champion.

There's a double edged sword as it relates to Lesnar as champion of the WWE Universe.

On the positive side, Lesnar HAS elevated the Championship of the WWE Universe. Thanks to him it's a prestigious title and all his title defenses were big name matches that meant something.

The other side of this though is that he and his title run and even the feuds that have been so 'big name' have all been pretty boring.

Which is more important? /shrug I don't know, but I DO know that it shouldn't be a case of either or, but rather who can be champion of the WWE Universe and do both at the same time.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Well see, that's just it, if Balor is going to lose it's a bad idea IMO. Lesnar needs to drop that damned title yesterday. They should be using him instead as some kind of Undertaker at Mania kind of character, not as WWE champion.

There's a double edged sword as it relates to Lesnar as champion of the WWE Universe.

On the positive side, Lesnar HAS elevated the Championship of the WWE Universe. Thanks to him it's a prestigious title and all his title defenses were big name matches that meant something.

The other side of this though is that he and his title run and even the feuds that have been so 'big name' have all been pretty boring.

Which is more important? /shrug I don't know, but I DO know that it shouldn't be a case of either or, but rather who can be champion of the WWE Universe and do both at the same time.


I was initially against Brock having a long reign due to his part time status and the ridiculous unexplained violation of the ‘aincient 30 day defence rule’, however it has brought new prestige to the title as Lesnar’s sporadic appearances and title defences have made every match he has a really big deal and it’s elevated the guy in the ring with him at least in the short term and created a big fight aura surrounding every match. I still maintain he should have defended at every Raw and dual brand PPV but he’s has appeared more often than not and I don’t recall any 3-4 month absences this time around. The other issue has been his disappointing matches, his clashes with Samoa Joe and Braun Strowman could have really been something but were booked as short and uneventful despite a good build up to both. His short match with Goldberg at Wrestlemania was fine as I understand that was done due to Goldberg’s limitations in the ring and despite the very short length I felt their match was a pretty solid intense and hard hitting clash. But the Strowman and Joe matches should have been granted more time and delivered more memorable encounters.

They need to meet in the middle with this booking moving forward, perhaps whoever the champion is he should only wrestle on PPV?
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Ok see? You know how critical I am of Brock Lesnar and his matches, but over the course of this year his matches have grown on me because they've taken on a different feel than any other match on the card. They're big name, big match aura feeling matches, and then they're very MMA style matches insomuch that they pull out all the stops, with huge often times brutal high spots, all the middling back and forth grappling is gone, and while I normally really like that stuff, with guys like Lesnar it sort of makes sense that it's not there. It's just a slugfest, and quite honestly I like that they're short and sweet. Joe vs Lesnar and Strowman vs Lesnar were actually the highlights of their respective cards because they were mean, ugly, hard hitting matches where the two guys looked like they were going to kill each other.

IMO all of that ADDS to Lesnar's appeal. He gives MUCH needed variety to the WWE formula Randy Orton is now so well known for mocking.
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The Strowman match was fine apart from the shoddy finish, Lesnar should have been made to work harder to put Strowman away. However the Samoa Joe match left me feeling short changed, these two could have gone back and forth for a lot longer the match just suddenly ended and you were left thinking oh so that’s it? The Strowman match I agree was two big lumps wanting to kill each other so a shorter length was fine, as with the Goldberg match it was booked as two guys just wanting to put the other away as quickly as possible, it was a collection of big spots.

Like you I enjoy this style of match that Lesnar brings, it’s unique and always feels like a big deal, his matches are hard hitting and realistic and you really get absorbed into them, unlike the usual formulatic WWE style which I can take or leave most of the time.
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