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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Another good segment with Tomasso Ciampa and William Regal, excellent heel work from Ciampa. The unsanctioned match between Ciampa and Gargano announced for Takeover, should be superb.

ECIII makes his debut!! This guy on the mic has verbal skills to rival The Rock, with his look charisma and mic skills I can see him headlining in WWE in no time. Cool theme music too although a little gutted they didn’t use his Trouble song from his TNA days.
Regal announces in the same segment that ECIII will compete against five others at Takeover in a ladder match for the newly created North-American title. As most of us know the five others will be Adam Cole, Ricochet, Killian Dain, Lars Sullivan and Velveteen Dream. What a match this should be.

Authors of Pain vs Street Profits was little more than a squash, Dunne/Strong vs Sanity was pretty decent.

Rest of the show was short segments announcing the participants for the North-American title ladder match and another segment where Andrade Almas attacked and beat down Alistair Black.
Good episode.

Pretty much covers my exact thoughts on the episode

Takeover is going to be insane
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I see plenty of NXT chat, so thought I would list some reasons why I pretty much never watch this show.......

1) I would rather use spare time to listen to a podcast. I see enough wrestling on other E shows as well as Impact.

2) A show where you might not see someone for weeks at a time, to be able to give other screen time, isn't very appealing.

3) The ads are annoying. When you pay for the network shows should be ad free.

4) The success rate of call ups is so low since the initial batch. It's hard to get excited about people performing in front of the same few hundred people all the time, when it's pretty likely when they get called up, they probably won't look as good.
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1. Ok...
2. Not me, I'd much rather that style so you don't get sick of guys for being on every show, like with Ran Reigns or before that John Cena.
3. I watch on Hulu. No ads.
4. And then there's the guys like Elias who are destined for mediocrity in NXT but become huge on the main roster. It goes both ways.

Don't be a putz. NXT is the best wrestling in the English speaking world.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:



Don't be a putz. NXT is the best wrestling in the English speaking world.


And 1000000% this
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I see plenty of NXT chat, so thought I would list some reasons why I pretty much never watch this show.......

1) I would rather use spare time to listen to a podcast. I see enough wrestling on other E shows as well as Impact.

2) A show where you might not see someone for weeks at a time, to be able to give other screen time, isn't very appealing.

3) The ads are annoying. When you pay for the network shows should be ad free.

4) The success rate of call ups is so low since the initial batch. It's hard to get excited about people performing in front of the same few hundred people all the time, when it's pretty likely when they get called up, they probably won't look as good.


I will counter your reasons with the reasons why I watch it and often prefer NXT to Raw and Smackdown.....

1) The weekly show is only a hour, easy to fit in to your schedule.

2) I like that you don’t see the same guys every week, keeps things fresh and they do a good job of spreading things out and making sure the top talents get enough exposure. It doesn’t seem repetitive and predictable like the main roster.

3) I love the more gritty and realistic feel it has. It feels like a genuinely competitive pro wrestling show rather than the pantomimey sports entertainment feel of the main roster.

4) The talent are able to go full throttle in matches rather than work the standard WWE style. I know obviously this is mostly down to the more relaxed touring schedule in NXT.

5) Yes many of the talents haven’t enjoyed the same success on the main roster, this is due to Vince McMahons influence(Triple H has full control of NXT) and also having to tone down their ring styles on Raw and Smackdown. However this does mean the NXT roster is constantly revolving which again keeps things fresh. And anyway however they fare on the main roster shouldn’t prevent you from enjoying their NXT work.

My advice to you would be drop TNA from your tv schedule and watch NXT instead, or just watch Raw and Smackdown highlights to allow more time for NXT.
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I watch enough E with Raw, Smackdown and PPVs/specials. NXT is small time in comparison. Yes I realise I said I watch Impact, but it's good to watch more than one company and when outsiders get linked to joining E, I like being able to give a view on said talent from seeing them regularly. Impact has a lot of good stuff too and the new Don Callis era has started well and this past week 20,000 extra viewers tuned in.

If NXT had a better success rate, I would be more likely to watch it. They took Sanity off the show, promoted them for Smackdown and scrapped it. Why should I care about NXT if management care so little about NXT guys?

If they call up guys like Black and Dream and they are looking equals with guys like Reigns, Styles, Lesnar, Nakamura etc I would be thinking NXT are doing great things and give it a watch. But when guys get promoted to debut and don't, Moon is midcard, Jose is a comedy jobber etc I don't need to see people like this before they reach the big arenas.
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I watch enough E with Raw, Smackdown and PPVs/specials. NXT is small time in comparison. Yes I realise I said I watch Impact, but it's good to watch more than one company and when outsiders get linked to joining E, I like being able to give a view on said talent from seeing them regularly. Impact has a lot of good stuff too and the new Don Callis era has started well and this past week 20,000 extra viewers tuned in.

If NXT had a better success rate, I would be more likely to watch it. They took Sanity off the show, promoted them for Smackdown and scrapped it. Why should I care about NXT if management care so little about NXT guys?

If they call up guys like Black and Dream and they are looking equals with guys like Reigns, Styles, Lesnar, Nakamura etc I would be thinking NXT are doing great things and give it a watch. But when guys get promoted to debut and don't, Moon is midcard, Jose is a comedy jobber etc I don't need to see people like this before they reach the big arenas.


Watching Impact is fine and I get wanting to see a non WWE affiliated product, I was a TNA fan for years even going to see live Impact tapings in London but eventually I got too demoralised by all the top talent heading through the constantly revolving exit door as well as the very noticeable cost cuts. It’s frustrating when you get emotionally invested in talent only for them to suddenly vanish. I hope they can bounce back and if their product and talent roster improves I may start watching again.

As for NXT it’s only really the Ascension, the Revival, Tyler Breeze and Sami Zayn who have underachieved on the main roster. The first two is partly due to WWE still not putting time and effort into their tag division. Owens, Balor, Nakamura and Elias have all done pretty well for themselves, also not forgetting talent like Rollins and Big E. The jury is still out on Bobby Roode and his lack of success so far I blame on a ill advised face turn. It’s well known Velveteen Dream is held in high regard by management and I expect him to be at least high mid-card when he hits the main roster, and Aliester Black I think has main event credentials.
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Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

I watch enough E with Raw, Smackdown and PPVs/specials. NXT is small time in comparison. Yes I realise I said I watch Impact, but it's good to watch more than one company and when outsiders get linked to joining E, I like being able to give a view on said talent from seeing them regularly. Impact has a lot of good stuff too and the new Don Callis era has started well and this past week 20,000 extra viewers tuned in.

If NXT had a better success rate, I would be more likely to watch it. They took Sanity off the show, promoted them for Smackdown and scrapped it. Why should I care about NXT if management care so little about NXT guys?

If they call up guys like Black and Dream and they are looking equals with guys like Reigns, Styles, Lesnar, Nakamura etc I would be thinking NXT are doing great things and give it a watch. But when guys get promoted to debut and don't, Moon is midcard, Jose is a comedy jobber etc I don't need to see people like this before they reach the big arenas.
 

So first of all, you're saying all this with a sig banner of two of the latest NXT call-ups. And almost everything else you've said about Impact can be said of NXT.

Secondly, the shows feel like a whole different company, even thought obviously, technically it's not. They style of storytelling is different, the management of the character development is different, the matches are different, the brand extension that WWE always wants to promote and how Raw and Smackdown rosters are unique, and are supposed to feel like they're totally different yet somehow they don't at all? NXT achieves that perfectly.

Third, you say "If they call up guys like Black and Dream and they are looking equals with guys like Reigns, Styles, Lesnar, Nakamura etc I would be thinking NXT are doing great things and give it a watch." but half of those guys ARE NXT call-ups. One just from last year. And only one of the others came from Impact or some place NOT used as a WWE developmental organization. Plus Styles is on the record saying he should have had a run through NXT because he wasn't familiar with certain things, and would have had a better start had he done so.

NXT was started so that it could help promote and develop the WWE stars of tomorrow, at a time when WWE had almost no one because the entire roster was so badly diminished. NOW 5 years later the roster has been bolstered and things are different. There's more competition than before. When the women used to debut on the main roster they were instantly championship material because the division was so small there was little else to do. Now it's big enough that if the women's rosters were combined they would need a tag division just to help keep them from getting lost in the shuffle. As it is the 2 women's titles on the main roster aren't QUITE enough to keep everyone occupied, even if a third singles title is definitely overkill.

At the end of the day, you do whatever you want. It's none of my business. I'm just saying, NXT is a lot better than you're giving it credit for. It's worth watching for it's own sake. A lot of what you say you want to see in wrestling is heavily featured in NXT.
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Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

I watch enough E with Raw, Smackdown and PPVs/specials. NXT is small time in comparison. Yes I realise I said I watch Impact, but it's good to watch more than one company and when outsiders get linked to joining E, I like being able to give a view on said talent from seeing them regularly. Impact has a lot of good stuff too and the new Don Callis era has started well and this past week 20,000 extra viewers tuned in.

If NXT had a better success rate, I would be more likely to watch it. They took Sanity off the show, promoted them for Smackdown and scrapped it. Why should I care about NXT if management care so little about NXT guys?

If they call up guys like Black and Dream and they are looking equals with guys like Reigns, Styles, Lesnar, Nakamura etc I would be thinking NXT are doing great things and give it a watch. But when guys get promoted to debut and don't, Moon is midcard, Jose is a comedy jobber etc I don't need to see people like this before they reach the big arenas.

You are an absolute whopper you adders

The statement about people being equal to Reigns is ridiculous really isnt it? because where did Reigns come from? NXT? thought so

Moon has only just debuted so thats irrelevant but shes already just qualified for MITB.

Reigns, Ambrose, Rollins, Owens, Zayn, Asuka, Charlotte, Bayley, Sasha, Balor, Aj Lee, Wyatt, Paige, Neville, Cesaro, Bryan, Big E, McIntyre etc etc have all came from NXT an all of the names ive mentioned have went on to do notable things on the main roster so your point on success rate is absolutely ridiculous on every level.

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I'm sure my posts aren't always read properly. When I bumped this thread I put "The success rate of call ups is so low since the initial batch". That can't be argued against. So few in recent years have got close to the level expected.

I watched early NXT, but seeing guys like Reigns doing excellent on call up made the show more worthy.

Seeing guys called up from there now not particularly doing much makes it less of a must see show when you've an idea the way it's going to go.

They have spent millions creating new main eventers and it's been a failure brand. They get trained by coaches who have done little or nothing at all in the big leagues, to pass on their knowledge of the industry such as Dean Malenko and Sara Del Rey.

They have other coaches who did OK like thirty years ago when the business was totally different and they have their old fashioned and outdated ideas like Arn Anderson and Michael Hayes.

The trainers are so bad at producing fresh talent to make good money (like Reigns and Rollins in the early days) that they are heavily reliant on taking guys from other companies that are already well known such as Styles, Nakamura, Roode, EC3 etc.

Ohio Valley was a much cheaper developmental and Jim Ross amongst others helped create stars like Matt and Jeff, Edge and Christian, Brock Lesnar, John Cena, Randy Orton and many others.
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