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Originally posted by WrestlingDR WrestlingDR wrote:

In a way I do get why the WWE makes other brands like Main Event and Superstars, they are cheaper tickets compared to RAW or SmackDown, well not so much SmackDown. 
Sorry, Main Event (and Superstars) are not "brands." Main Event matches are taped before SmackDown. 



Goldust (with Cody Rhodes) vs. Ryback (with Hennig)

Miz is at commentary. He’s very heelish as he promotes the DVD release of Christmas Bounty.

Goldust starts in control of the match. Goldust is very light on his feet and the pace is quick at first. But after a couple of minutes, Goldust slows it down. After a little bit in low gear, Ryback takes control. Ryback throws Goldie out to the floor… cue commercial break.

The show returns as Ryback has Goldie in a headlock on the mat (rest hold.) Josh & Miz start talking about the Slammy Awards. Miz is quick to point out that he’s a 2-time Slammy Award winner.

Goldie slowly fights his way out of Ryback’s grip. I like how Goldust sells without over-selling Ryback’s power.

Weird move that looked like a botch. Goldust goes to slam Ryback, but Ryback doesn’t get himself up high enough. Ugly landing. The ref gets in close to check Ryback.

Goldust in control as the action restarts. The pace is quicker. Goldust gets a little extra lower to give the reverse atomic drop.  Ryback manages to jump higher to take the spinebuster.

The action spills on to the floor. It gives Cody and Hennig an excuse to tussle. Ryback and Goldust back in the ring. Goldust goes for the pin, but Hennig gets involved. Goldust gets the win by DQ. 

The Usos vs. 3MB (Jinder Mahal & Drew McIntyre)

The Usos get their entrance before the commercial break. They are dancing/goofing off in the ring when the break is over. Josh says something about Heath Slater being injured. Miz suggests that Slater has “left the band.” Miz and Josh talk about lead singers leaving different bands over the years.
It’s a standard 3MB match. Drew handles the big bumps and then Jinder counts the lights after the superfly splash. 

Big Raw recap video package and filler videos. 

R-Truth vs. Damien Sandow

Truth gets the white bread Oklahoma crowd on their feet. Sandow orders his music turned off so he can rip into the crowd on the mic as he comes down the aisle.

Truth in control of the first part of the match; Truth does his little dance spots and shows off a bit. 

After the commercial break, Sandow lures Truth to the outside of the ring and takes control. Commentary should have played up the spot as showing Sandow’s intellect. But they are too busy selling the Slammy Awards. 

R-Truth gets second wind and the pace is ratcheted up. But Sandow “out-smarts” Truth and avoids the scissor-kick. But Truth connects on his second attempt. Sandow counters a suplex attempt and hits the You’re Welcome.

Overall:
Commentary really detracted from the matches instead of enhancing them. They spent too much time selling the Slammy Awards and Christmas Bounty DVD.

The three matches all got about the same amount of time. Which was really nice to see, as it meant there wasn’t a rushed through quickie match tacked on to the end. They could have easily fitted in a 4th match in the time spent on Raw recap videos.

The only way to build up any sort of interest in a storyline with 3MB will need them to actually steal a few wins. 
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Joe Hennig (w. Ryback) vs. Dolph Ziggler

Rybaxel is clearly getting a push. I can't get into the match. 
It's clear from the start that Ziggler is going to be jobbing this one.

Natalya vs. Alicia Fox

Damn, Alicia is showing off some of her skills. There's a decent chain of mat moves. Nattie is smiling and clearly enjoying herself.
 
Then Alicia takes control. 

Alicia taunts the crowd a bit as well.
Nattie catches Alicia and it's sharpshooter time.

Big Raw Recap segment.

R-Truth & Xavier Woods vs. Tons of Funk

Brodus & Tensai don't have their goofy light-up glasses on, but otherwise its the same entrance as Raw.

Brodus and Woods to start the match. But then Brodus decides Woods isn't worth his time, so he tags in Tensai. Tensai is incredibly light on his feet for his size.

Woods spends a lot of time in the ring getting worked over by Tensai and Brodus. Finally R-Truth gets in the ring. Brodus rolls out of the ring. Tensai rushes over and tells him to get his head on straight. R-Truth with a suicide cross-body on both guys. But Tensai and Brodus catch Truth, so Woods flies over the ropes. Woods with a suicide dive onto Truth, pushing Truth into Brodus & Tensai.

After the commercial, Brodus is in charge over Truth. Tensai gets in and works over Truth for a bit. Truth is a bit over the top with selling for Brodus. 
Finally Woods gets the tag and goes to town. Woods hits the Honor Roll on Brodus, but Brodus powers out of the cover. Brodus doesn't see Woods tag in Truth. Truth with the roll-up for the win.

Post-match: Brodus gets a cheap shot in on Truth. Brodus has Truth laid out in the middle of the ring and starts to climb the ropes. Tensai gets in and is arguing with Brodus.
Brodus pushes Tensai back. The two big men get in each other's face. Tensai pushes Brodus back. Brodus leaves the ring.


Overall:
*Alicia Fox was in great form. Too bad she's mostly being used in a meaningless team with Aksana these days.

*R-Truth might have the only intro that the commentators don't talk over.

*Brodus is at 90-95% full heel now. I still hope that Tensai turns with him and they keep the team together.

*Don't anyone get excited about the chatter of a Benoit sighting on Main Event. There was a Randy Orton highlight package. Orton won his 1st WHC by beating Benoit and about 2 seconds was shown from that match.
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The show opens with Foley Claus. Yeah, it’s Mick Foley in full Santa attire.He’s passing out gifts to some folks in the front row. He pauses to give both Josh Mathews and the Miz some crappy gifts. He gets into the ring and gets on the mic to wish everyone a Merry X-mas.

Interruption by Rybaxel. Oh crap, they got mics. Why are they coming out?
Originally posted by Ryback Ryback wrote:

‘cuz he’s fat.
Ryback insults the crowd. A “Goldberg” chant starts up.
Originally posted by Hennig Hennig wrote:

Shut ‘er mouth old geezer, gimme the toys.
Ryback says something about this being a fake Santa. Ryback pulls on Santa’s beard but it’s attached. The Miz interrupts. Gets a decent pop. Miz wants to sing carols with Santa, but he’s changed the words. A couple of verses insulting Rybaxel to the tune of Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer.
Originally posted by Miz Miz wrote:

Perfect will never be your name.
Santa announces he’s got the power to make a match. Hennig vs. The Miz, with Santa in his corner. Now I’m confused, the Miz is way over with the crowd as a babyface despite him playing a heel for the last month.

Alex Riley replaces Miz at commentary. 

R-Truth & Xavier Woods vs. 3MB (Jinder Mahal & Drew McIntyre)

A-Ry says something about Heath Slater is recovering from vocal surgery, and something about that’s going to delay the 3MB xmas single. 
Drew Mac & Jinder argue on the outside to send us to commercial.

Drew Mac manhandling Woods. Drew seems to be in charge of his team. They’re trying to have some storyline with 3MB, but they are so far down the card that few have noticed.

3MB are actually working like a good tag team. Drew Mac & Jinder are tagging in & out while Woods takes the beatdown. Drew & Jinder need to add some double-team moves to their set. 

R-Truth gets the hot tag and pace picks up as the match starts winding up. Woods nails Jinder on the outside. Truth hits his finisher and covers Drew.

AJ Lee (with Tamina) vs. Kaitlyn

Kaitlyn’s hair looks weird and her ring gear reminds me of ODB. I’m not sure what they are thinking with Kaitlyn. But she really does remind me of a younger ODB right now.

Kaitlyn shows off her power at the start. But the crowd isn’t popping for her. AJ uses her quickness to avoid the big moves. 

AJ takes control. AJ gets Kaitlyn into the corner and then starts skipping around. That gets the crowd to react.

AJ gets Kaitlyn in tied up, A-Ry calls it the black widow. 
But Kaitlyn doesn’t tap and shoves AJ into the corner. AJ gets a sleeper on Kaitlyn, who again shoves AJ into a turnbuckle. Kaitlyn with a big shoulder tackle. Damn, Kaitlyn’s moveset is looking more and more like John Cena’s moveset.

AJ slips out of Kaitlyn’s hold and locks on the black widow. 
Josh and A-Ry get confused and admit this second hold is the black widow. It’s as bad as having 2 Lawlers on commentary, neither seems to know what’s going on as they are too busy plugging Total Divas.

The Miz (w. Foley Claus) vs. Larry Hennig III (w. Ryback)


Santa reaches into his bag and tells Miz to give it to Hennig. It’s a Ryback action figure. 
The crowd gets a “Santa” chant going. Yeah, that’s right. Santa is the most over guy at the ring.

Hennig only gets some heat by trash talking Santa. 
The crowd really doesn’t give a damn about this match. Technically it’s not a bad match, but there’s zero spark here.

Miz goes for the figure four (when was the last time he used that?) Ryback gets on the apron, Santa rushes over and grabs his foot to keep him from getting in the ring.

Miz knocks Ryback to the floor. This is St. Mick; he pulls out a stocking and locks on the Mandible Claus (or Mr. Stocko.)
Miz nails Hennig with the skull crushing finale. Miz and Santa celebrate in the ring.

Overall:
* Mick Foley makes for a good Santa. He doesn’t need any padding in his suit and just his beard colored. Even Foley’s limp works because Santa’s an old fat man, and nobody minds that Santa waddles a bit.

* The Miz was suddenly acting like a total babyface here. It was seriously weird. The crowd was eating it up. 
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Main Event still has good wrestling. Not sure if Thun will later give a full review; but I'd figured I'd share some of my thoughts as today's show was interesting. There's two matches I want to focus on. 

It was a pretty good match between Alberto Del Rio and Justin Gabriel. Del Rio had an amazing spot wailing Gabriel with a leaping enziguri kick from the mat while Gabriel was up on the top turnbuckle. Just wow. Del Rio has always impressed me; and I must say I'm a tad disappointed no one else is reminded of Antonio Inoki in Del Rio. 

Kaitlyn vs the Champ AJ Lee; in what I'm assuming was Kaitlyn's last televised WWE match. AJ offered a hand shake to Kaitlyn before the match, seemingly legit as they've known each other since (at least) NXT season 3; and they later made a mini storyline out of that. It was not a squash as some have on their way out; AJ gave her a good match and took a few near falls. After AJ won, AJ hugged her. 

Then immediately Kaitlyn was hit by Tamina's savat kick (and I say savat kick as it more resembled a kick Haku would give than a kick Shawn Michaels would give even though Miz called it a Superkick.) 

And who is this Tom Phillips guy? WWE needs to stop hiring broadcasters who weren't former wrestlers or at least former managers.  Usually they have A Ri if they need an extra guy.  


Edited by Kondor - 09/January/2014 at 04:45


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Originally posted by Kondor Kondor wrote:

It was a pretty good match between Alberto Del Rio and Justin Gabriel. Del Rio had an amazing spot wailing Gabriel with a leaping enziguri kick from the mat while Gabriel was up on the top turnbuckle. Just wow. Del Rio has always impressed me; and I must say I'm a tad disappointed no one else is reminded of Antonio Inoki in Del Rio. 


I really like Del Rio, but he has a bit of the same problems Daniel Bryan did when he first started in the WWE. How does he get over with a personality and limited mic skills? He still hasn't really figured that part out. I'm amazed that Daniel Bryan did, but I would actually rather have seen Del Rio do it.

Originally posted by Kondor Kondor wrote:

Kaitlyn vs the Champ AJ Lee; in what I'm assuming was Kaitlyn's last televised WWE match. AJ offered a hand shake to Kaitlyn before the match, seemingly legit as they've known each other since (at least) NXT season 3; and they later made a mini storyline out of that. It was not a squash as some have on their way out; AJ gave her a good match and took a few near falls. After AJ won, AJ hugged her.

Then immediately Kaitlyn was hit by Tamina's savat kick (and I say savat kick as it more resembled a kick Haku would give than a kick Shawn Michaels would give even though Miz called it a Superkick.)


Yes, that was their final match, and I heard it was a pretty good one. I also heard about the MSG Curtain Call 2014 as well. The pic of AJ wrapping her legs around Kaitlyn during the hug has gotten memegene going on.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Originally posted by Kondor Kondor wrote:

It was a pretty good match between Alberto Del Rio and Justin Gabriel. Del Rio had an amazing spot wailing Gabriel with a leaping enziguri kick from the mat while Gabriel was up on the top turnbuckle. Just wow. Del Rio has always impressed me; and I must say I'm a tad disappointed no one else is reminded of Antonio Inoki in Del Rio. 


I really like Del Rio, but he has a bit of the same problems Daniel Bryan did when he first started in the WWE. How does he get over with a personality and limited mic skills? He still hasn't really figured that part out.


That's why him parting with Rodriguez was a mistake. 

I like Del Rio as a pure wrestler, as I do Bryan. But mic skills are a part of the business. 


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Yeah, I agree. Ric Rod was very good for ADR...

BTW what happened to Ric Rod? I haven't seen him in ages.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Yeah, I agree. Ric Rod was very good for ADR...

BTW what happened to Ric Rod? I haven't seen him in ages.


He got "injured" by Del Rio the night after Battleground on Monday Night Raw. Del Rio got distracted by Vickie Guerrero coming out and saying he has to defend his then World Heavyweight Championship against John Cena and Ricardo rolled Del Rio up and pinned him. ADR went ape shit and Ric Rod hasn't been seen since.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kondor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/January/2014 at 05:52
Wasn't it a wellness violation with Rodriguez? 


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Ah, a wellness violation, that's right. Shouldn't he be back from that by now? I guess maybe they just haven't figured out a way to write him back in... I mean what's he gonna do now?
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