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Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Raw and Smackdown are supposedly seen as seperate brands so there should be no need to ever have a draft ever again.

but there were Raw Vs Smackdown matches at Survivor Series. There will be more Raw against Smackdown vibes come the Rumble, a big match at Mania again, and likely again at Summer Slam.

I agree with Fletch, a yearly draft could be used to shake up the limited rosters of both brands, and would be a great way to introduce new talent too. I'd have it as a joint PPV, with draft picks decided by matches, and then a title match to finish.
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Originally posted by ihatethatmonkee ihatethatmonkee wrote:

Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Raw and Smackdown are supposedly seen as seperate brands so there should be no need to ever have a draft ever again.

but there were Raw Vs Smackdown matches at Survivor Series. There will be more Raw against Smackdown vibes come the Rumble, a big match at Mania again, and likely again at Summer Slam.

I agree with Fletch, a yearly draft could be used to shake up the limited rosters of both brands, and would be a great way to introduce new talent too. I'd have it as a joint PPV, with draft picks decided by matches, and then a title match to finish.


it should be similar to how the (2004) Draft picks was picked but after every match both brands get two picks





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Originally posted by ihatethatmonkee ihatethatmonkee wrote:

Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Raw and Smackdown are supposedly seen as seperate brands so there should be no need to ever have a draft ever again.


but there were Raw Vs Smackdown matches at Survivor Series. There will be more Raw against Smackdown vibes come the Rumble, a big match at Mania again, and likely again at Summer Slam.

I agree with Fletch, a yearly draft could be used to shake up the limited rosters of both brands, and would be a great way to introduce new talent too. I'd have it as a joint PPV, with draft picks decided by matches, and then a title match to finish.


Exactly. Can you imagine 2-3 years of the same roster on Smackdown? How many times will we have seen Ziggler vs The Miz or Ambrose vs Styles? There simply is not enough depth in the roster to create fresh rivalries over a long period of time.

I do like the idea of a draft PPV with draft picks and stipulations at stake through a series of matches.
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I'm not sure anybody can imagine multiple years of the same roster on either show, but I don't think a draft is the right way to mix things up. If the two shows are going to be seen as rival brands then their must be some sort of brand pride attached to it. If there is going to be some arbitrary mixing and matching every year then I don't think that would be possible. There are better ways to find fresh match ups.

It starts by building a stronger roster. Not a deeper one. The WWE has one of the deepest rosters it has ever had but the talent needs to be able to shine.  Cut out the 50/50 booking. Build SUPERstars. Apollo Crews should be squashing jobbers and then moving on to the enhancement talent and then hopefully be over enough to take on guys in the Intercontinental division.

I don't think anybody needs to change shows for fresh matches when there is potential for greatness with the team you already have.

Every once in a while should want someone to jump ship or be traded. It should be a REALLY big deal. People changing brands should be a rare occurrence. If the winner of the Rumble gets to choose which title he goes for and that means his contract may also be moved it is an important event.

Then there's NXT. New call ups means fresh faces.

In my opinion, having large scale roster changes is detrimental to the overall long term product. It creates an environment where there are no "dream match" scenarios and in the end...brands don't matter.
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Originally posted by SKITCOMIC SKITCOMIC wrote:

I'm not sure anybody can imagine multiple years of the same roster on either show, but I don't think a draft is the right way to mix things up. If the two shows are going to be seen as rival brands then their must be some sort of brand pride attached to it. If there is going to be some arbitrary mixing and matching every year then I don't think that would be possible. There are better ways to find fresh match ups.

It starts by building a stronger roster. Not a deeper one. The WWE has one of the deepest rosters it has ever had but the talent needs to be able to shine.  Cut out the 50/50 booking. Build SUPERstars. Apollo Crews should be squashing jobbers and then moving on to the enhancement talent and then hopefully be over enough to take on guys in the Intercontinental division.

I don't think anybody needs to change shows for fresh matches when there is potential for greatness with the team you already have.

Every once in a while should want someone to jump ship or be traded. It should be a REALLY big deal. People changing brands should be a rare occurrence. If the winner of the Rumble gets to choose which title he goes for and that means his contract may also be moved it is an important event.

Then there's NXT. New call ups means fresh faces.

In my opinion, having large scale roster changes is detrimental to the overall long term product. It creates an environment where there are no "dream match" scenarios and in the end...brands don't matter.


It would seem somewhere in the middle is needed, I agree that huge wholesale changes on a yearly basis are perhaps not the answer but WWE definitely need a way to keep the rosters fresh, particularly for Smackdown, Raw has a much deeper talent pool and has enough talent to keep things interesting for a while longer, but even Raw will eventually need to shake things up to prevent things getting stale and repetitive.

Regular NXT additions could be the answer, Smackdown would serve well as the platform for NXT graduates to start main roster life, guys like Joe, Roode, Nakamura, Big Damo and Itami would all be great additions to the blue brand.

If each roster was guaranteed a handful of NXT additions each year as well as maybe a few roster trades spread out over the year then perhaps there would be no need for a draft.
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I do agree with the statement made that there needs to be a yearly draft or at least a time where people can get traded like in actual sports, as even though not everyone moves, it keeps the rosters fresh and brings new feud opportunities for Creative to play around with and if someone isn't booked well on one brand, moving them to the other could and has on many occasions turned things around for that individual. 

And yeah, there's the obvious moving AJ Styles to Raw, and for SmackDown's blockbuster pick, I would have Brock Lesnar drafted there. They could do either Rollins or Reigns, but Lesnar seems more likely.
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Originally posted by Dukezilla Dukezilla wrote:

I do agree with the statement made that there needs to be a yearly draft or at least a time where people can get traded like in actual sports, as even though not everyone moves, it keeps the rosters fresh and brings new feud opportunities for Creative to play around with and if someone isn't booked well on one brand, moving them to the other could and has on many occasions turned things around for that individual. 

And yeah, there's the obvious moving AJ Styles to Raw, and for SmackDown's blockbuster pick, I would have Brock Lesnar drafted there. They could do either Rollins or Reigns, but Lesnar seems more likely.


Lesnar will remain on Raw, he's part-time moving him to Smackdown would make no sense.

I would move Cena, Wyatt and Orton to Raw and send Owens, Zayn and Cesaro to Smackdown.
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I don't think we need a full on brand draft like yesteryear.  Post WM we always get the debuts/nxt call ups to freshen things up a little there, but I do kind of like the idea about Survivor Series. Have Raw vs Smackdown matches and the winning brand of the matches gets to make one pick from the people involved in the matches to switch shows. Would add something to the whole survivor series thing, and give a shake up to keep things fresh.

There's also the whole MITB thing too. If you keep it as one ladder match for the MITB contract, you got an option to switch shows there, same with the Rumble winner. There's ways around not having a full draft.

Of course there's also a third alternative, where each shows talent have contracts, and they're free game in the last x amount of months in their contract to move shows if they please.

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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Originally posted by ihatethatmonkee ihatethatmonkee wrote:

Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Raw and Smackdown are supposedly seen as seperate brands so there should be no need to ever have a draft ever again.


but there were Raw Vs Smackdown matches at Survivor Series. There will be more Raw against Smackdown vibes come the Rumble, a big match at Mania again, and likely again at Summer Slam.

I agree with Fletch, a yearly draft could be used to shake up the limited rosters of both brands, and would be a great way to introduce new talent too. I'd have it as a joint PPV, with draft picks decided by matches, and then a title match to finish.


Exactly. Can you imagine 2-3 years of the same roster on Smackdown? How many times will we have seen Ziggler vs The Miz or Ambrose vs Styles? There simply is not enough depth in the roster to create fresh rivalries over a long period of time.

I do like the idea of a draft PPV with draft picks and stipulations at stake through a series of matches.


It doesn't need a draft to freshen up the rosters as you can have NXT call ups, trades etc.

It would have to be sensible and realistic trades though because if Smackdown was to let Cena go to Raw they can't be getting someone like Cesaro in exchange.

The problem with NXT call ups is NXT isn't that great anyway so weakening that show would make it even more shit.
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The very nature of the beast in NXT is to make people ready for the main roster. Certain people in NXT will be main roster ready themselves for quite some time but as a veteran they'll stay longer just to help train up some younger guys and get them over. That was why Bayley didn't go up before she did, she was one of only two female babyfaces on the roster that could help with the new girls in the ring during performances. That's why Asuka is there now. Once Asuka is called up, they'll be relying upon Ember Moon and a few others that have shown they can make it to carry the load. That's how it has been working with Samoa Joe, and Bobby Roode, etc.

With Nakamura they have franchised the guy for NXT and now he will be not only an in ring live audience trainer for the rookies, but a draw, too. I expect to see something like that happen with Eric Young as well. He is too old to go to the main roster and be a top draw, but in NXT he can still draw, and he has so much knowledge and experience he can work as part trainer, part talent.

Point being, NXT is specifically designed to allow their best talent to go away, and someone else will fill the void, for better or worse. You can clearly see Samoa Joe is on his way out the door, and Bobby Roode is going to fill the void, before he too leaves. NXT works like a territorial promotion did back in the 80s. Nakamura is their top guy, he will work with everyone, and by the time the guy he works with is through with their program he will be far better experienced and also over with the hardcore WWE fans, is the network subscribers, and in a much better place than when they entered the company to have a big career on the main roster.

TBH I wouldn't be surprised to see that the Big Show and Kane both don't end up in some main roster storyline very soon where they get busted down to the minor leagues so that they too can help out in NXT.

Raiding the NXT Roster has always been a part of the plan, and if NXT is doing their job correctly a call up is a very big and meaningful thing not only to the talent getting called up, but to the fans that have followed their NXT career.

And BTW. NXT is still the best show going. It's the only professional wrestling show in the United States that has any real talent worth watching. Everything else is just sports entertainment or low budget indie crap.

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