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    Posted: 23/August/2013 at 09:16
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North America always had 3 World titles, and by always I mean since 60,s when WWWF and AWA pulled out of NWA.

When AWA folded in 1991, third spot was empty for couple of years till Shane Douglas dumped NWA Coraluzzo World title in garbage, declaring ECW title as legit no. 3. belt, behind WWF and WCW.

Than cca 2001-02, WCW and ECW folded and WWE had the only legit title (2 of them) untill TNA rightfully claimed title no. 2., and spot no. 3. was taken by RING OF HONOR.

ROH deserved no.3. title and I consider them as legit World title, since they have good product, good workrate and protect the bussiness.

I still think that Jay Briscoe was best choice for World champion, as Austin like badass fan favorite with goofy bro as a sidekick, but anyway - his boss was gay and Jay was fired for comments he made - being himself, the same guy privately and in charachter - the same reason that made Jay great.

Ok, he was stripped and good people of TUP didn,t care.

I rarely post any new topics because of my bad english, so I didn,t do anything.

Than ROH  made 16 man World title tournament - and you guys didn,t care again.

I wanted to post some comments, but no one posted any topics.

I thought that Tournament was done wrong, with 16 same guys as always, not only in ROH but in PWG, CZW, Chikara - no matter how good they are - and they are the best what indy scene has to offer.

I would put a Japanese guy in, than a Mexican luchador, than former TV star like Morrison or Carlito, but no - they had their own crew and didn,t care about making it big and international.

My point being - I feel sorry for ROH, since they are running World title tournament and no one posted any ROH topic in months.

As I understand, they have Adam Cole vs. Tomasso Ciampa and Steen vs Elgin for finals.

I didn,t see Ciampa coming, but I would guess the other 3 for sure.

Cole did good as a PWG champ and he is good wrestler, cocky all american heel who would be paired with Steen and Elgin since they are both good wrestlers and Canadian market is huge and important.

So, I finally did that. I posted ROH topic.

I would like to know: WHY YOU GUYS DON,T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ROH.

 
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At several times North American wrestling has claimed more than 3 world titles. Even now there's more than 3 legit world heavyweight championships.

To clarify I used the following criteria to define a true world heavyweight championship title:
  1. It must be the promotion's top heavyweight championship.
  2. It must be defended internationally.

With that in mind, I would say the current legit North American world heavyweight championships:

  • WWE Championship - the historic World Heavyweight title of the company, the title has been defended in more countries than can easily be counted.
  • TNA World Heavyweight Championship - has been defended in Japan and throughout Europe.
  • AAA World Heavyweight Championship - has been defended in Japan and throughout Latin America. 
  • CMLL World Heavyweight Championship - has been defended in Japan and throughout Latin America.
  • NWA World Heavyweight Championship - these days the title has more value in Japan, Australia and Mexico than the US.
  • CZW World Heavyweight Championship - they have defended this one in Mexico.
  • ROH World Heavyweight Championship - has been defended in Canada at least once.

Historically I don't count the USWA Unified World Heavyweight Championship; as that was rarely defended outside of Memphis title and Arkansas doesn't count as "international." As far as I know the original ECW World Heavyweight Championship was never defended internationally; so it wasn't a true world title.

Originally posted by stipe stipe wrote:

I would like to know: WHY YOU GUYS DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ROH.
For me, I don't enjoy their product. I think they look cheap. 

ROH come across as being bush league. Their TV show looks like it was recorded in a basement. They can't hold onto their talent; half of their roster has tried out for WWE in recent months. Their "serious" wrestling gimmick is used as an excuse for having nonsensical matches.

Overall it looks like they don't reinvest in their product. If they don't care enough to invest in their product, then why should I care to emotional invest myself in their product? 


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Originally posted by stipe stipe wrote:

I would like to know: WHY YOU GUYS DON,T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ROH.



- shitty little carny fed
- founded by a pedophile, so ironic that they tour school gyms
- riddled with vanilla midgets
- most generic names ever (Adam Cole? really?)
- every match is KIK CHOP KIK CHOP KIK CHOP BENOIT SUPLEXES PILEDRIVER OFF TOP ROPE FOR A 2 COUNT SUPERKICK
- Davey Richards is the worst wrestler on Earth, or any other planet
- Kevin Steen is a fat shit
- their fans are slobs who try and get themselves over by chanting stupid shit, also virgins
- looks like it was shot on a Motorola flip phone
- Matt Hardy. Lol.
- matches are all hour long time limit draws
- they pretend wrestling is real and act like an MMA company
- Jim Cornette is an old bitter cunt
- too many japs
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LennyComa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24/August/2013 at 08:16
I don't care much For RoH, primarily because it looks cheap and 45 minute long matches get boring unless they do something more than Chop. kick. Headlock, off the ropes, sleep n leap, Miss the clothesline, Into a sleeper, to the mat, 10 mins of countering holds, repeat

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Theres a reason Jap wrestling companies died out, because nobody wants to see matches with more kicks than a JCVD straight to DVD action film......ROH mustnt of got the memo....

As for the main subject, ROH isn't a World title. Seth Rollins basically took a dump on the strap and said he was moving to the big leagues. Honestly the only way they could be any more small time is if they changed their ring for a matress and went all CZW.

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Originally posted by John The Baptist John The Baptist wrote:

Originally posted by stipe stipe wrote:

I would like to know: WHY YOU GUYS DON,T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ROH.



- shitty little carny fed
- founded by a pedophile, so ironic that they tour school gyms
- riddled with vanilla midgets
- most generic names ever (Adam Cole? really?)
- every match is KIK CHOP KIK CHOP KIK CHOP BENOIT SUPLEXES PILEDRIVER OFF TOP ROPE FOR A 2 COUNT SUPERKICK
- Davey Richards is the worst wrestler on Earth, or any other planet
- Kevin Steen is a fat shit
- their fans are slobs who try and get themselves over by chanting stupid shit, also virgins
- looks like it was shot on a Motorola flip phone
- Matt Hardy. Lol.
- matches are all hour long time limit draws
- they pretend wrestling is real and act like an MMA company
- Jim Cornette is an old bitter cunt
- too many japs

Probably the best description of ROH i've ever seen -it should be on the back of all of their DVD's 

Originally posted by stipe stipe wrote:

I would like to know: WHY YOU GUYS DON,T NO ONE GIVES A DAMN ABOUT ROH.
 

Fixed - although not technically true - they do have about 30 fans - infact i wouldnt be surprised if you were one of these fucking idiots :

Quote  Postby syxxpakk ยป Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:59 pm
I'll echo the that Mulkey. The content is, in my eyes, easily above that of Impact or RAW or Smackdown. The production? Not so much, but again YMMV.


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Well technically speaking, WWE has two World Championships; the World Heavyweight Championship (the Big Gold Belt) and the WWE Championship. Obviously, the latter is considered to be much more prestigious, however, I find the World Heavyweight Championship to be far more prestigious then the TNA World Heavyweight Championship simply because of its rich history and impact on the business. 

The World Heavyweight Championship has been around since 1905, has gone through various promotions during its lineage, including the NWA, WCW and WWF/E. So to me, the two top prizes in the world of professional, let along North American, is the two currently in WWE, the World Heavyweight Championship (the Big Gold Belt) and the WWE Championship. No matter how others may see the Big Gold Gold as being a secondary title.

    
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Originally posted by stipe stipe wrote:



I still think that Jay Briscoe was best choice for World champion, as Austin like badass fan favorite with goofy bro as a sidekick, but anyway - his boss was gay and Jay was fired for comments he made - being himself, the same guy privately and in charachter - the same reason that made Jay great.

You're kidding me, right? You just didn't compare Jay Briscoe to "Stone Cold" Steve Austin? I understand what you meant but, c'mon man.
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I'm trolling the ROH forum as we speak. Bawgod is this about to get fun.
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