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    Posted: 04/October/2019 at 14:47
I thought it would be good to have a thread on the Wednesday Night Wars since things kicked off in hellacious fashion this week.

Yes, we have the individual threads for NXT and AEW but no where to talk about the comparisons, the good and bad of both and also the ratings.

So for me this week goes is a draw.

AEW had a hell of a show but then i watched NXT and i thought there were more holy shit moments. The return of Ciampa, Balore turning up and Cole v Riddle were absolute smash hits for me but then again so was Cody v Sammy, Moxley attacking Omega and Jake Hager arriving in AEW.

What a time this is to be a wrestling fan if this is the standard we can expect from now on.

If i had to edge it to one - id go with NXT because the Cole v Riddle match was so good and the big moments were a bit more spectacular than those of AEW.

I'm happy to call it a draw though - both had solid efforts.
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Personally, I know the match was better between Cole vs Riddle and Cody vs Sammy, but I enjoyed Cody vs Sammy more just because of everything outside of the actual match. I liked the commentary better, I liked the presentation better, I liked the crowd better. The match wasn't as good, but it was still good, whereas Cole just doesn't do it for me. Never has, probably never will. He's good, like Gargano, but Gargano doesn't do it for me either. I feel like Cole vs Riddle is overrated. It was good, but not THAT great. I think it just seemed great because of the over-zealous crowd.

Either way, I much preferred Dynamite this week. Perhaps that was only due to extenuating circumstances like it being the debut episode, the fact that I don't care for Cole very much, and that Hulu hacked apart the NXT episode when there wasn't really any good reason to do so. But for me, Dynamite gets it.

Plus they got the ratings win. (Vince fears ratings)

Now, tonight we get to see what Smackdown has to offer. I wasn't overly fond of Raw this week, though it had its moments, but I'm a huge mark for The Rock so seeing him make an appearance will be fun if nothing else.

EDIT: Oh, btw, this should probably be in the general wrestling forum since it's about both WWE AND AEW.

Edited by Rico Len - 04/October/2019 at 16:18
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Bell to bell NXT was the far superior show, the best match of AEW for me was PAC vs Hangman but even that couldn't hold a candle to Riddle vs Cole. 

However AEW was better in terms of production, big show atmosphere and execution of angles and developing storylines. They also had the novelty value with it being their tv show debut. 

Apparently AEW won this week soundly in the ratings but then that had to be expected with it being their first show, even people who prefer NXT will have tuned in out of curiosity, I mean I'm a WWE fan before I'm a AEW fan but I made the effort to watch Dynamite first this week, I think the fact that NXT is available on the WWE Network the next day may play a part as well. 

I give a very slight edge to NXT this week in which show I preferred but that was mostly due to the Cole vs Riddle match, it was extremely close for me.
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Good idea for a thread that combines the two shows, so we can see where it leads to over time.

AEW winning week 1 wasn't a surprise and should have been expected by every single wrestling fan.

It's a brand new weekly show and AEW have way more mainstream wrestling names to pull in the viewers than NXT does (which E is probably aware of to put Balor there).
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Well after the week has finished, and including Sunday night's PPV results, I'm once again fully vested and more interested in AEW.

Brock vs Velasquez is cool, but not for Crown Jewel while Velasquez still needs surgery and isn't cleared to fight in the UFC as a result. That's just beyond stupid. Why WWE would clear him is a mystery, unless the match is just a tease that will never take place and is just there to set up their wrestlemania match.

In the meantime, AEW is just getting the ball rolling and I'm certain we've a lot of surprises left to see before they're finally going full-steam ahead.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fletch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/October/2019 at 17:17
So I would say AEW was better than NXT this week as the NXT episode was solid with more good wrestling action but it was just lacking something, felt like a bit of a missable episode there was nothing must see, while AEW had some really good moments and a did a decent job of furthering their storylines. 

I will mention though that Smackdown was far and away the best wrestling show this week.
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I see AEW as what WWE should be. Like, I haven't seen anything cringey or really stupid and bad yet from AEW, and most of all they leave me wanting to see what's next. WWE doesn't do that with me at all anymore.

WWE can be good and sometimes still does do really good stuff on their shows, but it's not consistent and it's usually padded with really bad shit I try to forget immediately or stuff that is just completely unremarkable.

2 episodes in and AEW seems like even it's low points aren't bad. In terms of looking at this like the marathon it is, AEW is off to a great start, but I still feel like there is a lot more to see from them on an upwards trend to being much better.

I don't get that from WWE at all.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

I see AEW as what WWE should be. Like, I haven't seen anything cringey or really stupid and bad yet from AEW, and most of all they leave me wanting to see what's next. WWE doesn't do that with me at all anymore.

WWE can be good and sometimes still does do really good stuff on their shows, but it's not consistent and it's usually padded with really bad shit I try to forget immediately or stuff that is just completely unremarkable.

2 episodes in and AEW seems like even it's low points aren't bad. In terms of looking at this like the marathon it is, AEW is off to a great start, but I still feel like there is a lot more to see from them on an upwards trend to being much better.

I don't get that from WWE at all.
 

Yes I agree AEW hasn't done anything really terrible yet that has made me cringe and wonder what on earth the bookers were thinking, while WWE have done that pretty regularly in recent times. However that said AEW have also yet to dazzle me with anything, everything has been solidly done and nothing has been really off putting aside from maybe the Women's division, but the thing with WWE is they still do big angles really well, you sometimes have to filter through a lot of garbage with WWE but the stuff with Wyatt, Velasquez and Tyson Fury is keeping me interested right now and to a lesser extent Lashley and Rusev. 

Like I said earlier I recommend people watch Smackdown this week it was a really good show and very different to anything else WWE have done lately.
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