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So heres my thoughts on this weeks Dynamite:

Fenix v Nick Jackson - This was an awesome match. its not often we get to see these in singles action and it certainly lived up to what i thought it would be.

Shida v Baker - This was a solid effort - i was really shocked Shida picked up the win against Baker.

Dynaimte Dozen battle royal - i wasnt really a fan of this one to be honest. The last 2 standing were MJF and Page which should make for a good match next week.

Jerocho cut a pretty good promo and this set up a match between Y2J and Scorpio Sky for the title.

Luchasaurus ran through Peter Avalon

Private party v Santana and Ortiz - This was another solid match. I was again shocked to see Private Party pick up the win over these.  There was a weird moment in this where the ref stopped counting because i think the legal man was not the one involved in the pin.

Moxley v Allin - This was absolutely awesome and insane as you could well imagine. This was match of the night for me with the Fenix Jackson match a close second.


Overall it was an OK show for me with 2 standout matches.

B is probably a fair grade
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The last two weeks of Dynamite have been pretty average I would say. There's been some highlights but a lot of very missable stuff inbetween. 

The best thing about AEW right now is Jericho, his promo work has been entertainment gold. I've also enjoyed the booking of Moxley, have to say though Moxley's match with Allin didn't live up to the hype, it was fine but not the crazy brawl they promoted it as. 

It's concerning though that the only thing I'm really into right now in AEW is a near 50 year old former WWE guy. This doesn't bode well for the rest of the roster, I've enjoyed a few of the matches particularly the ones involving Omega and PAC who are the top workers in the company. 

Too much of the roster still says low rent indie show to me, they need to get some new talent fast. The Blade and the Butcher who made their debuts this week don't exactly feel me with confidence about the future of AEW, a guy who used be a low card act in Impact and some other guy who is apparently in a band, not sure he can even wrestle. 

I know it's still early days but if somebody asked my opinion of AEW right now I'd say very hit and miss, a few good bits here and there but overall nothing that suggests they are any better than WWE and not as good as NXT.
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Another very hit and miss episode.

I was listening to Wade Keller and he and his co host made one very good point about AEW, they said that they have a lot of very young and green talent who desperately need more ring time and promo time than they are getting in AEW, as far as I'm aware AEW are not running house shows right now so these talents are only getting one day a week where they might get a match or some promo time. Its not like WWE where there is the performance centre and constant house show loops for talent to get seasoning and work on their craft.

It was clear this week that Jungleboy was really out of his depth being in there with the veteran Jericho, its all very well AEW preaching how everything is unscripted but if the talent cant cut a promo it doesn't matter, its really only Jericho, Cody, Moxley and MJF who can just go out there with a live mic right now.

This is why AEW would be smart to build working relationships with other wrestling groups so they can strengthen their own roster and allow their younger talent to gain experience.
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So that's the end of 2019 for AEW.

Its been a very mixed bag of a product and NXT pasting them in the ratings on the last episode of the year isn't a good sign of things to come, NXT has been a vastly superior product lately and obviously fans are realising that.

Stuff AEW have done well - The booking of Cody, he has come across like a big star and his mic work has been excellent. In the ring I would say he's pretty basic but he can carry his weight and his matches always feel important, he's a good storyteller.

Chris Jericho as champion - He was the smart choice to hold the belt, his promos have been the best thing about AEW, he's managed to reinvent his character yet again and he has a big star aura. In the ring he's delivered some top matches, the only down side to Jericho is he's looking his age but obviously that's something he cant control.

MJF - The young up and comer who is fire on the mic, he's yet to prove himself in the ring but his mic work is among the best right now.

Jon Moxley - He's been booked as a top star from the start and he's clearly relishing the unscripted and more free environment. I've really enjoyed his edgy and rebellious Stone Cold-esque character, but the most frustrating thing about Mox is WWE could have easily booked his Dean Ambrose character the exact same way and had a top breakout star as a result, we saw shades of it at times in WWE but it was all too often over-shadowed by all the silly lame shit they booked him to do which would ultimately lead to his exit from the company.

PAC - Love his Bastard heel character, he's been booked strong and is one of the top workers in the world, he's been allowed to showcase his in-ring talent in AEW. He would be my choice for the first person to hold a secondary title in AEW, he could even be a contender for the World title down the line.

Stuff they've not done well - Kenny Omega, what the fuck with this 50/50 booking????? I could have understood maybe the loss to Jericho and then to PAC but he should have bounced back strong after that. Omega should have been the guy they pushed to the moon and marketed as a home grown star that had never been to WWE. Hopefully he can recover but it will take some work.

The Young Bucks - Much like Omega too much 50/50 booking. I'm not a fan of these guys I hate their frat boy personalities and their spot monkey style but I understand they have a large loyal following of fans and they should have been portrayed as a big deal from the start but instead they've been jobbing to SCU and Private Party.

SCU as tag champions - Scorpio Sky looks to have potential but the grizzled vets Kaz and Daniels should be there to enhance the young guys, their act has opening match stamped all over it with their silly catch phrases. AEW has a strong tag scene and I would have picked a better team like the Bucks or LAX as the first champs.

The Dark Order and too much dark culty shit - Was is AEW's obsession with this type of gimmick? You have the Dark Order, the Butcher and the Blade and now the Nightmare Collective all doing creepy dark cult style shit, and in honesty none of them are doing it particularly well, does Tony Khan have a gimp mask fetish or something??
The Dark Order has come across as a lame low rent version of the Ministry of Darkness and the bad publicity one of the members got for throwing those weak punches this week is not going to do this group any favours. To me they are a bunch of unknown jobbers in gimp masks. The only way this can be salvaged is if AEW bring in a big name as the mastermind of the group and even then its 50/50 that it will get over.

The Women's division - Its awful, I cannot take Riho seriously as champion she is just too tiny and she cant speak English so cant even win us over with some gripping promo work. Awesome Kong is there but she's very much at the veteran stage of her career and is doing a weird gimmick with Brandy, I would say there is a question mark over if Kong can still go in the ring to a high standard.
There isn't much else to work with, Kris Statlander looks a very good recruit but the alien gimmick is just embarrassing and she needs to drop it.

The roster - AEW is packed full of vanilla midget nobodies that I just don't care about, there are young guys there with potential but that will take time and AEW don't have a performance centre to season talent, they have a weekly tv show and a handful of PPV's per year so young talent has to rely on indie bookings to hone their skills.
Next year AEW should look to add depth to their roster and add some star power, and/or strike up working relationships with some of the other groups like NWA, MLW, NJPW even Impact.
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For now at least I am giving up on AEW.

It's not that it's bad there is simply nowhere near enough that I'm emotionally invested in, I was watching this weeks Dynamite and found myself bored and uninterested in most of the product.
As I was watching I was skimming a dirt sheet on my phone and actually found myself far more interested in what I was reading about this weeks Smackdown, so halfway through Dynamite I turned off and put SD on, considering the blue brand is the weakest WWE show in my opinion right now that spoke volumes with me.

In AEW The womens division is poor, the tag scene is average, the mid-card is non-existent. There are only a handful of talents on the roster I have any interest in seeing right now, Moxley and Jericho I like but seeing them feud just feels like a rehash of a WWE storyline.
The Dark Order angle is daft, the booking of the Elite guys has been confusing, there seems to be a obsession with dark and culty characters and they haven't done a great job of building anyone other than Jericho, Mox and Cody.

So for now I'm tuning out, there is simply too much wrestling on right now for me to devote time to a show that I can take or leave. I may tune back in down the line should their product start to interest me again.
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Says it all that you've had to post four times in row about the show. 

Even our AEW marks haven't posted in here for six plus weeks dating back to November and they are supposed to love the brand.

MJF aside  (and he appears to be not pushed enough) they don't seem to be making their own stars and have ruined the small amount of star poor guys like Omega supposedly had before the weekly show debuted.
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I assume it's had a few weeks out over the holiday period, not seen it in my planner. 

It has gone downhill since it started. I like Moxley, Omega, Pac, Page, MJF, and Jericho. You could probably add in Shida too but the rest of the Women's division is subpar at best. Pretty much everyone else I'm indifferent to except for disliking the Bucks, Inner Circle, Bucks, The Women's division, and the Bucks. (I really don't like the Bucks.)


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They didn't run a show Christmas week so took a one week break.

I think the new shine has worn off, you can see the crowd sizes dwindling at the shows and the online response to AEW has gone from being almost unanimously positive which was really annoying at times as AEW smarks would just praise everything they did and bash WWE, to very mixed and very negative at times.

AEW has not been this ground breaking refreshing alternative to WWE, they have been much the same as Impact in that they are a alternative, maybe a little edgier in content but overall not that different or much more innovative and lacking the star power and polished production of WWE, the AEW product is certainly not even close to the point where its convincing me to switch off WWE and devote my wrestling fandom solely to AEW. As I said this week I actually found myself bored with AEW and more interested in what was going on with Smackdown and that was the deal breaker for me.

I realise AEW is a work in process it's still very much early days and certain things they are doing well but it's just not enough.
I will keep a eye on what is going on with them but for now I will not be watching Dynamite ever week unless a dramatic improvement happens.

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Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Says it all that you've had to post four times in row about the show. 

Even our AEW marks haven't posted in here for six plus weeks dating back to November and they are supposed to love the brand.

I have to admit i fall into this category - i went from NXT to NXT and AEW but the early promise they showed hasnt really transitioned into anything spectacular.

This isnt just my views because if you look back over the weeks, NXT started catching up in the ratings before overtaking them - yes they lost heavily this week but everyone knew it was only an awards show which could be caught up at any time.

NXT is the superior show in all of wrestling IMO and as of this post (and going back to about November) i have absolutely zero interest in AEW.
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With the signing of Brian Cage and the rumoured signing of Ryback things are starting to look up for AEW, for me at least a improved roster is what it would take for me to get interested in them again, I've not completely shut the door on them as I did watch a few YouTube highlights of the past couple of Dynamite episodes and I liked what I saw, it's just not enough I need AEW to do something to really wow me and right now WWE have raised their game with Raw and Smackdown and NXT is still the best wrestling product out there, there are only so many hours per week I can dedicate to watching wrestling right now and as things stand AEW are not good enough for me to prioritise them over WWE.

I did see a report today that ROH and maybe NWA could form working relationships with AEW, that would be a major boost for the AEW roster to have access to talent working for those groups.
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