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Originally posted by thundarr2000 thundarr2000 wrote:



I never cared much for Joe Rogan in the booth.  Mike Goldberg was servicable... but nothing special. 
 
Any chance we see Paul Heyman join commentary?  He's more interested in MMA these days anyway.  He's good buddies with Lesnar. 


He'd have to lick some ass with the higher ups at Fox, as it wasnt UFC's call to change the announcers. Cant see him calling Lesnar's fights either as he likes to be in his corner. He does know a lot about the sport though as hes been on MMA Live a couple of times and is a regular guest on Helwani's show too.

JDS/Velasquez is tonight btw. For Brits, its on Premier Sports on Sky, as ESPN have fell out with Dana White apparently.
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Cant find the Velasquez/ JDS fight anywhere on Australian TV.....................
 
I think Rogan dug his own grave at the UFC on Fox announcement press conference.
 
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Well... that match isn't going to make any new UFC fans.
 
Again, I repeat my earlier comment that it was a bad idea to build a show based upon just 1 fight.   I know that Fox and UFC wanted to build a show that would serve as an introduction to new viewers.  But there were a couple of other fights on the undercard that could have been included.   I think it would have been way more effective to introduce new viewers to the more exciting lighter weightclasses as well.  Having a single match that last all of 1:04 isn't going to be enough to convert any new fans.  The show turned out to be all filler.
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They should of at least shown Guida v Henderson 
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The version we got here showed the Guida fight... It certainly made a fan out of me. Great fight.
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No real surprise here.  But UFC on Fox 1 was the highest rated UFC fight ever.  Or at least that's what Fox is saying.
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UFC ON FOX DEBUT SCORES BIG

Heavyweight Championship is Most-Watched UFC Event Ever;

Most Watched Pro Fight Since 2003

Los Angeles – History was made last night as the UFC made its broadcast television debut on FOX, and a record audience tuned in as the challenger, Junior dos Santos defeated defending champion Cain Velasquez in a first round knock out to claim the coveted heavyweight crown. It was the most-watched UFC event ever and the most-watched professional fight of any kind in eight years, according to fast national ratings made available by Nielsen Media Research.

The hour-long UFC on FOX premiere scored a 3.1/5 household rating/share, with 5.7 million viewers making it the most-watched UFC event ever and the most-watched professional fight of any kind on any network since 2003 when 7.0 million tuned in to watch Lewis-Klitschko on HBO. Velasquez-dos Santo is also the highest-rated and most-watched professional fight of any kind on a broadcast network for OSCAR DE LA HOYA’S FIGHT NIGHT on FOX. (4.3/6, 5.9 million viewers) in 1998.

FOX Research projects that last night’s UFC on FOX premiere broadcast to win the 9:00-10:00 PM time period across key demos including Adults 18-34 (3.2), Adults 18-49 (3.0); Men 18-34 (4.3) and Men 18-49 (4.0). Competitive fast national ratings for other networks are currently unavailable.

The UFC on FOX debuted strong opposite significant college football competition last night. ABC's primetime Oregon-Stanford broadcast averaged a 6.0/11, while NBC's Maryland-Notre Dame primetime broadcast averaged a 1.4/3 and ESPN averaged a 1.5/3 in prime for Alabama-Mississippi State (college football ratings are overnights – overnight for UFC on FOX event was 3.5/6). The three games combined to total 8.9/17 in primetime. Interestingly, among the Men 18-34 demographic, the UFC on FOX premiere posted a 4.3, strong enough to out-rate every college football telecast this season on any network with the exception of last week’s No. 1 vs. No. 2 LSU-Alabama match-up (through 11/5).

The most recent mixed martial arts programs on broadcast television were a series of EliteXC events on CBS in 2008. The premiere of UFC on FOX attracted an average audience +16% higher than the premiere of EliteXC on CBS (5/31/08), their most-watched EliteXC event (5.7 vs. 4.9 million viewers). UFC on FOX also out-performed the EliteXC show in household rating (3.1 vs. 3.0) and across key male demos: Men 18-34 +34% (4.3 vs. 3.2); Men 18-49 +33% (4.0 vs. 3.0); and Men 25-54 +23% (3.8 vs. 3.1).

I understand that Dana White isn't taking criticism well either. 
 
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But 30 minutes after the Fox show ended, the UFC president had already heard enough negativity and seen too many critical comments on Twitter.

So White lashed out during the UFC on Fox postfight press conference.

"For anyone to [expletive] about this fight because they didn't get to see [this fight or] that fight ... shut up! You should've bought tickets if you wanted to see all the fights," White said. "And you don't like to watch them on Facebook? Seriously, shut up."

White went on to explain that too many of the hardcore fight fans, who were loudest critics of the one-fight format, have a narrow-minded view of the sport.

"Every weirdo comes from everywhere, [talking] about how bad fighting is and joining the 'Coalition of I Have Nothing Better To Do With My Life.''" said White. "These are the stories we have to tell to mainstream America. Because most of us in this room live in this bubble called MMA. It's a world of triangle chokes and arm bars, all the [expletive] people have never heard of. They don't understand it. They don't know what it is. We have to ease people into this, so that's what we did tonight."

Dana White needs to go to Business 101 and relearn the lesson "The Customer is Always Right." 
  
The hard-core fans aren't wrong.  They are the ones that have been supporting this sport for a long time.  And many of them weren't happy about the 1-fight show since it was announced.  And then they weren't happy with 40 minutes of filler for a 64 second fight.  Most of the folks that managed to see more of the card, declared the Henderson-Guida bout the fight of the night.  And had they shown that fight on the Fox show as well... then UFC might have drummed up some interest in that title fight for Henderson down the road.
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How was the new commentary compared to Rogan/Goldberg?

It was Anik & Lesnar, right?
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Rogan & Goldberg did play by play.  But they were kept to a minimum.  They did the generic "Rules of the Octagon" and Tale of the Tape prefight stuff.  Then the fight (all 64 seconds.)  Then the post-fight interview.   So maybe the did 5 minutes of work.
 
Pre/post show was Fox Sports' Curt Menefee with Dana White & Brock Lesnar. Menefee was alright as the generic "sports" guy.  But he mostly does NFL, and that's part of how Fox Sport is promoting UFC.  They are promoting UFC as the NFL of MMA.
 
Dana White spoke too fast.  He's not a good commentary guy.  Lesnar was a better.  He let his wrestling persona out a bit and played the heel.  He kept saying how he wanted Cain to win so he could get his rematch. 


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Huge card on Fox next (Jan 28).

You have Rashad Evans v (unbeaten) Phil Davis, Sonnen vs Munoz, and Bisping v Maia.

Sonnen/Munoz could easily be fight of the year, Evans/Davis not so much.
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I dunno how good Munoz is on the ground but if he isnt too good this is a terrible matchup for him. Would of rathered Sonnen get the title shot and Munoz face Belfort.

Evans and Davis will be a wrestleoff. I give it to Rashad.
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