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    Posted: 10/April/2020 at 17:27
Originally posted by Kondor Kondor wrote:

Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

I seem to be in the minority but I enjoy the quick hard hitting matches that we often see featuring Lesnar like the one we saw with McIntyre at Wrestlemania. Sometimes you can feel short changed due to the length but these types of matches have you gripped on the edge of your seat. 

I think this was the right booking decision, save a more lengthy match for when a rematch can happen in front of a live crowd. 

The worst thing about it was that this was a ground breaking moment with the crowning of the first ever British WWE World Champion and such a huge moment in the career of McIntyre, but he had to celebrate it in a empty arena, had to feel for him.

Sorry Fletch but I can't agree with you; and really your own last paragraph gives the reason why, as well as why the event should have been postponed. If you like those quick hard hitting matches that's one thing. But if you want to "save" something better for when a crowd can be there then the whole WrestleMania should have been saved for when a crowd can be there. WrestleMania is the pinnacle of the wrestling year where the climax to everything happens. There should never be a "throw away" WrestleMania main event. Plus a person's first World Title win is always a special moment. Plus this match had a lot of good build since the Rumble. 

Now I'm not necessarily sold on McIntyre as being "the guy" to start with; but that's another story. But if he is going to be the guy, they either should have put on a better match that was worthy of being a WrestleMania main event and first World Title win for a major star, or they should have postponed the whole thing. But a throw away WrestleMania main event is not something that should happen ever.     


 

Under normal circumstances I would agree with you 100%. 

If WWE had a reasonable timeframe of when some normality will resume then I would have said yes postpone all major shows including Wrestlemania. But they don't so there was a very good chance a postponement would end up being a cancellation. 
I think they did the right thing taking a show must go on mentality and giving fans something to enjoy during these troubled times. 

But that said the empty arena did have a adverse effect on the matches, wrestling matches feed off crowd energy and it helps with the pacing and the whole layout of the match in general so it was smart of WWE to do what they could to combat this issue, a major complaint was that some matches were just too long, without a audience matches did feel more drawn out and plodded in pace. 
Anyway WWE were able to deal with this issue by running the cinematic matches, that was a good call and it worked very well but they couldn't do this for every match of course. 
Drew and Brock could have worked a much longer clinic of a match but it definitely wouldn't have had the impression on fans it would have had if they had worked in front of a live crowd. 
That's why I think it was smart booking to go with the short hard hitting match that produced the right result. Drew and Brock can work a show stealing longer match when normal service resumes. 

If life returns to normal later this year WWE would be smart to build Summerslam or Survivor Series as a really big deal perhaps to make up for what Wrestlemania lacked this year.


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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

I seem to be in the minority but I enjoy the quick hard hitting matches that we often see featuring Lesnar like the one we saw with McIntyre at Wrestlemania. Sometimes you can feel short changed due to the length but these types of matches have you gripped on the edge of your seat. 

I think this was the right booking decision, save a more lengthy match for when a rematch can happen in front of a live crowd. 

The worst thing about it was that this was a ground breaking moment with the crowning of the first ever British WWE World Champion and such a huge moment in the career of McIntyre, but he had to celebrate it in a empty arena, had to feel for him.

Sorry Fletch but I can't agree with you; and really your own last paragraph gives the reason why, as well as why the event should have been postponed. If you like those quick hard hitting matches that's one thing. But if you want to "save" something better for when a crowd can be there then the whole WrestleMania should have been saved for when a crowd can be there. WrestleMania is the pinnacle of the wrestling year where the climax to everything happens. There should never be a "throw away" WrestleMania main event. Plus a person's first World Title win is always a special moment. Plus this match had a lot of good build since the Rumble. 

Now I'm not necessarily sold on McIntyre as being "the guy" to start with; but that's another story. But if he is going to be the guy, they either should have put on a better match that was worthy of being a WrestleMania main event and first World Title win for a major star, or they should have postponed the whole thing. But a throw away WrestleMania main event is not something that should happen ever.     



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I seem to be in the minority but I enjoy the quick hard hitting matches that we often see featuring Lesnar like the one we saw with McIntyre at Wrestlemania. Sometimes you can feel short changed due to the length but these types of matches have you gripped on the edge of your seat. 

I think this was the right booking decision, save a more lengthy match for when a rematch can happen in front of a live crowd. 

The worst thing about it was that this was a ground breaking moment with the crowning of the first ever British WWE World Champion and such a huge moment in the career of McIntyre, but he had to celebrate it in a empty arena, had to feel for him.
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Another boring and repetitive Heyman promo telling us for the 1342nd time of the achievements of Brock Lesnar.

I would like to see a segment in the ring where Brock snatches the mic from Heyman and cuts his own promo in the face of Mcintyre.

Drew finally reaching the top of the food chain should be a big moment, but if the match is too short it won't be remembered.
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I think the booking so far has been great. 

It's getting Drew over in a big way and presenting him as a big star who can match up to Lesnar, that's a smart way to use Brock, using his credibility as a dominant and really tough to beat talent to help establish a new top guy. 

I'm sure Lesnar will get his own back on Drew as we head into Wrestlemania, I'm liking how both men are using sneak attacks to get the upper hand as it builds the anticipation for when these two square off one on one.
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I agree with Adders to be honest ...

Heyman is boring

Drew is super over and for me he has to take the title - there wont be a better time for him to win the belt.

They need to be careful in this build because Drew is getting too much build, too much offence, he's too cock sure - that it all screams Brock retaining at the minute. Dont get me wrong i love it when a challenger is this sort of arrogant, aggressive kind  of heelish tweener sort but when youve watched WWE for as long as what we all have, it nearly always means the champ retains.

They need to give Brock some moments in this build up instead of it all being about Drew.

But didn't Brock F5 him a while back? 

The reason why I want Brock to win is because he ended the Undertaker's streak; and anybody who beats the Undertaker at WrestleMania better be absolutely invincible in order to respect what the streak was. Yet he's already been bested by Bill Goldberg (in a squash), Roman Reigns, and Seth Rollins (clean.) He's loosing too much. If he is going to be a monster he should be a monster. He needs a big WrestleMania win to reclaim that status. He actually shouldn't be loosing to anyone. 

I would however agree that Heyman's thing on the mic is getting a little stale. It's not horrible but at the same time getting a tad old. But to be honest without having Brock actually wrestle in matches on Raw it is the best option they got; as Brock does not really have any mic skills. 

And speaking of that it would be nice to have Brock actually wrestle outside of a pay per view once in a while. I get that they need to save Brock's matches so that it seems as if it is something special, as he is obviously a massive draw. I also get the Brock just plain doesn't want to wrestle much. But it would be nice if once in a blue moon Brock actually has a match outside of a pay per view. Even Sting has a Monday Night Raw match in his resume. I believe the last time Brock did anything like this was his squash over Kofi Kingston. 

So even in the best case scenario in my eyes of Brock actually having a match outside of a pay per view once in a while, having a seg begin by having Heyman talk is still probably the best option available.   

And I see your point about Drew; but I view it more so as confidence as opposed to arrogance. 


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I agree with Adders to be honest ...

Heyman is boring

Drew is super over and for me he has to take the title - there wont be a better time for him to win the belt.

They need to be careful in this build because Drew is getting too much build, too much offence, he's too cock sure - that it all screams Brock retaining at the minute. Dont get me wrong i love it when a challenger is this sort of arrogant, aggressive kind  of heelish tweener sort but when youve watched WWE for as long as what we all have, it nearly always means the champ retains.

They need to give Brock some moments in this build up instead of it all being about Drew.


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The crowd rightly started off dead as the boring Paul Heyman said his same old shit we've heard a million times. But when Drew showed himself the crowd were woken up.

By laying out Brock twice within minutes it showed the first time wasn't a fluke shot.

Drew holding the title belt was probably the loudest the crowd were all night, as they want a champion who's always there.
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Well this feud took an interesting turn. 

So just after Paul Heyman gave a speech about how the WrestleMania main event is a "sham" and passing off Brock's Rumble elimination at the hands of Drew as more or less a cheap shot after Ricochet low blowed Brock, painting the picture that Drew has no shot against Brock, McIntyre comes and lays out Brock twice with the Claymore Kick. Lawler said that after the second one Brock was out for at least 15 seconds. 

It was a good way to add to the suspense that Drew might do it and get the win, and also a good way to build the overall feud but I have to say Brock looked waaaay too weak. I can see Drew getting offence in but that was too far as far as Brock going down as Brock is supposed to be a monster. 

Brock had better win this thing.  




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For me this is must win for drew hes red hot now os the time to pull the trigger he needs the win so badly and he has a ready made feud afterwords with Seth Rollins and the deciples afterwards. 

He also has small feuds he can do with Samoa Joe which would ve smart to do as they are guys who will literally beat the shir out of each other.

And I guess there is Bobby Lashley too.
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