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    Posted: 31/March/2015 at 19:01
Good to see most of the fan feedback has been positive, fantastic Wrestlemania, I said on paper this show looked very good despite the lacklustre build and on the night it delivered and more.
The pre-show was good, very enjoyable tag-match and thought the Battle Royal was decent too, Big Show winning seemed a poor outcome but I suspect maybe hes retiring very soon and they wanted to give him one last Wrestlemania moment, I was cursing as I had a £10 bet on Ryback. Angry It was pretty crowd pleasing stuff, Ryback dominating, Mizdow chucking Miz out then putting in a good showing before being eliminated.
 
The Intercontinental ladder match was very good, Wrestlemania has been missing this kind of match to kick things off and I hope this becomes a staple of the event, the Bryan win should help keep the smarks happy, was hoping Truth would pull off the upset.
 
Orton vs Rollins - very solid match although I think these two could produce better, struggled to follow the ladder match, the ending sequence was absolutely sick though, possibly best finish to a WWE match ever.
 
Sting vs Triple H - match of the night, not a technical masterpiece or a a spot-fest by any means but the lack of athleticism was more than compensated for by the storytelling, nostalgia and big fight aura. Triple H's Terminator entrance was great as well.
Marked out like a kid for the NWO and DX squaring off, how could anyone not love that. Triple H winning was the right call, wins and losses didn't matter here the match was a great spectacle and a proper Wrestlemania moment, if this was to be Stings final match then its very fitting, likewise for Tripper although I highly doubt hes calling it a day in the ring just yet.
 
Divas match was good enough by the ladies standards but as usual I had very little interest.
 
Cena vs Rusev was actually pretty good, liked Cena's off the ropes stunner spot, he should use moves like that more rather than his terrible STF, Rusev entering in a tank was cool stuff. The ending was lame and predictable though although I get Cena really had to win here.
 
Much as I always enjoy The Rock this segment was waaaaay too long and just seemed like they were stalling, the guys who had their matches shunted to the pre-show due to time-contraints must hate everyone involved in this segment. I wish it had gone somewhere as well like setting up a match for The Rock at next years Wrestlemania but I guess he just cant commit 100% to a match that far away with his schedule. It was what it was and good that Ronda Rousey got involved as everyone wanted to see it, she should have done more than twist Steph's arm though that was pretty lame. On a side note how fucking hot is Ronda!!!!!
 
Bray vs The Undertaker was disappointing - very watchable match but failed to really draw me in and I felt it made Wyatt look a bit weak, Taker defeated him fairly easily and it just felt like after all the effort of building Bray as a big deal Taker comes back for one night and pins him, the end. Thought Brays entrance with the creepy scarecrows was very cool though.
 
Roman vs Brock was excellent, class A booking here, having Lesnar beast him for the entire match which helped cover up the fact Reigns is still a bit green and helped with the awkward crowd reaction he was getting, it made his comeback really gripping especially with Lesnar bleeding all over the place, Rolllins gatecrashing and cashing in was fantastic stuff, loved every minute of it, great finish that made booking sense as Brock will likely now take a sabbatical leaving Rollins to feud with Reigns.
 
Really enjoyed it, several great matches, not one bad match and loads of memorable moments, sure bet for PPV of the year.
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WrestleMania 31 was great. That's all I can say really. On paper it looked awful, but even Taker managed to have a good match, unlike last years.
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Originally posted by HBKDX97 HBKDX97 wrote:

That was like a WWE '15 match, where two kids are trying to get an achievement for winning a match after taking critical damage. Brock Lesnar spamming suplex, suplex, suplex, F-5, suplex, suplex, strike, strike, strike, strike, suplex, F-5, etc. Then just dropping the controller so the other guy can make his comeback. The end with Seth Rollins was surprising, but can anyone say that was a good match without being a troll?

Yup. Granted, it was no technical masterpiece, but with Reigns in there and Lesnar on pure Power game trip these days, I didn´t expect one. It was what I wanted it to be, intense. Lesnar layered on the intensity with ever suplex he wrung out of himself. "Welcome to Suplex City, bitch" pretty much told the whole story of the match.

The ending was perfectly booked. With Lesnar dropping any MMA aspirations, WWE might just get him to work a few dates more than he has worked this year, so he could very well remain in the title picture without people complaining about him never competing.

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On the whole, I thoroughly enjoyed Mania. Those complaining about the sunlight, boo hoo, there are probably dozens of concession stands in that arena, buy a fucking baseball cap and enjoy the fact that it´s a beautiful, warm day.

On to the matches:

Tag Title match: Very well choreographed for me, despite the amount of people involved it didn´t turn into a clusterfuck. Despite a lot of people being in the ring at the same time at times, it felt fluid. Tyson and Cesaro remaining filled me with about as much joy as natalya locking the sharpshooter on that little bull thing.

ATGMBR: In all honesty, this was just there to give some people a WM Paycheck (even though probably a smaller one) and to showcase the Miz/Mizdow explosion. Show winning will make absolutely no difference, he´s still going to be plain old BigSlow.

Main Show:

IC Title ladder match: I would´ve really really loved Zigs to win this. Nonetheless, the match was good, it didn´t have the super crazy high bumps off the ladders, save for one elbow onto everyone by Ambrose and the last tumble by Zigs, but it was still enjoyable to watch. The "R-Truth is afraid of heights in a ladder match" aspect could´ve been emphasised a bit more. Nevertheless, congrats to D-Bry. 

Rollins vs. Orton: Pretty standard match, good quality, nice Orton win. Not much more to say.

Sting vs. HHH: First of all, Sting didn´t look bad. The padding on his pants probably helped with some bumps, but he didn´t wrestle in a T-Shirt, as some feared and he didn´t look to be in too bad of a shape. The match itself was also what was to be expected until DX came down. But to be honest, you just knew that, if the wanted to do a "legends showcase match" it would´ve been this one. Sting loosing was the only slight irk i have with the whole thing.

Divas Match: Not bad. Got enough time, did flow nicely, had a nice story to it. Can´t say anything bad about it.

US Title match: Quite frankly I kinda expected more. Not that it was a bad match, but once again Cena slacked off on the STF and... I dunno how to explain it... it kinda lacked... IT. Cena is US champ again. whoopee.

TBC once I´m home, my work relief just arrived.

Continuation:

Bray vs. Taker: I loved the match itself, I didn´t fully like the ending. I feel like this was the perfect chance to pass the torch and let Taker retire, however I now feel that he has to come back once more for Mania 32. Which is in Texas, so let him headline the HOF there then make his farewell appearance at Mania and then let the man rest in peace.

WWE TItle match: MOTN. As described above, I loved the intensity from Lesnar and Reigns both, I loved that they kept smiling and pretty much encouraged the respective other to lay down more punishment. The ending was perfect. I can´t wait for RAW to see how they go from here.

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The rest:

Music: I´ve always had a little stiffy for Skylar Grey, dunno why. Kid Ink? Who the f. is that. Didn´t know, didn´t care, don´t like rap.

Rock/Rousey vs. HHH/Steph (btw, Mania 32, The Rock (/w Rhonda Rousey) vs. HHH (/w Stephanie McMahon)??) - Nice takedown by Rhonda, Loved her Vegeta shirt. Other than that, I was never so unhyped about a Rock appearance. But it was nice to have him there. 


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Sting vs Trips was one of the best things about Mania.

If you don't get why the nWo came out for the save you're a spastic. I don't believe anyone didn't mark out at all the shit happening at the end.
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No, I'm saying Booker T's career was held way back and not nearly as legit as it otherwise would have been had he gone over Triple H.
 
Sting is just another WCW casualty fed to Triple H just like Booker, Goldberg, Steiner, and so many others. Sting has had far too much success, unlike Booker who got all but one of his world championships at really questionable periods in 'lesser' companies.
 
Also, and no, I don't think that WWE looks at WCW's top talents as legitimate either. "No matter how big you are elsewhere, you're nothing until you prove yourself in the WWE." To paraphrase Chris Jericho and Vince McMahon both. The fans know otherwise, especially in the cast of Sting, but obviously WWE wants people think that Triple H of all people is a bigger star than Sting, when Triple H doesn't even belong in the ring with Sting. Rock, Austin? Yeah, they were on Sting's level, and in fact outshine Sting, no question, but Triple H is just there out of nepotism.


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Are you actually saying Sting's career isn't legitimate because he didn't beat HHH last night?


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Oh, one other thing, I must say. If you compare Flair at age 56, to Sting today who is 56 years old, Sting blows Flair out of the fucking water. You put Sting in there with a 40 year old HBK and you've got match of the year for sure, and something that would definitely rival HBK vs Flair.
Just another reason I can not stand to see Triple H go over on anybody, especially WCW talent. Triple H over Booker T was beyond stupid back in the day, and obviously they've learned nothing since. WWF won, isn't that enough? At least give the talent some credit by having them beat your top guys and legitimizing their careers. Booker T could have been so much more FOR THE WWE than he ever was for WCW had they just given him the win over Triple H and say hey, you being the 5 time (5 time, 5 time, etc.) champion meant something, and you're a top talent here in the WWE too, and unlike in WCW WE will make money off you too.
 
This just wreaks of WCW burial, and nothing more. Sting on Monday Night Raw during the go-home show said that him coming out to avenge WCW would be asinine at this point, but regardless "The powers that be" wanted this to be a WWF vs WCW feud no matter how stupid. 


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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Just waking up the morning after, and backreading. I will say this about nwo's appearance. I did mark a little at seeing all 3 members show up, just because I am a huge fan of the nwo, and also seeing each one take bumps, and especially watching Nash grab his quad when he went down, that was hilarious.

But no, they shouldn't have been there, unless it was to pile on the beatdown of Sting. Nwo and dx were the same exact entity, The Kliq, just kliq north and kliq south. Them fighting makes no sense in this context.

I agree with Pimpy, no one should have come to Sting's aid, but if they were to send someone down to help him, then the ones to help him ideally (talent relations issues aside) are first and foremost.

Lex Luger, they were partners through so much throughout their career, and while they did feud from time to time too, most of their careers they were on very close friendly terms. After Luger there are 4 others that make a lot of sense.

The Steiner Brothers are probably the next best option as they too were at Sting's most of their early career.

During the monday night war, DDP and Goldberg were the other 2 members of wcw's biggest name defenders against the nwo, them coming out together with no one else in Sting's corner would have been epic as fuck.

Lastly, due to the fact that they spent pretty much their entire careers feuding Ric Flair makes the least sense of guys that ought to be out there helping Sting, but on nitro's final night when they hugged it out, and then have more or less been on very good terms ever since, bringing down flair, especially considering he too never joined the nwo and was a wcw stalwart makes a good amount of sense in this context, even given flair and triple h's relationship, because I would definitely say flair and Sting's relationship trumps flair and triple h's.

Now, when you take talent relations into account, Scotty Steiner and Bill Goldberg are out. Period. Lex Luger could probably be brought in, but that seems more trouble than it's worth for such a small spot. Flair was at the event, DDP was at the event, and another wcw stalwart, who didn't have any relationship with Sting, but who at least had a very negative relationship with Triple H and was at least a world champion in wcw, albeit after wcw had gone down the crapper rather than when it was at it's peak like ddp, was booker t. Booker was there on supplimentary commentary.

Flair, Booker, and DDP makes a lot of sense for a wcw vs wwf standoff if you're going to do something so stupid. But having best friends who were just the night before holding hands and celebrating together come out and fight over sting who half of them spent so much time trying to beat is doubly stupid.

Sting getting beat is a tough pill to swallow and I wouldn't have liked it in the best of circumstances, like having the entire kliq come out to beat him down, I would not have liked it, ut I could get over that, while grumbling about wcw talent burial the whole time, but this? It was stupid, pure and simple, uneducated, overbooking, completely negating the whole storyline since Sting appeared at the survivor series, and petty burial of wcw all over again. We get it, wcw lost the monday night war, aren't you just so proud of yourselves? This kind of booking was one crude sex joke at the expense of their female talents away from the exact thing that drove me away for 6 years.

Now, all that said. I've really no complaint anywhere else on the card. Yeah, I would have liked to have seen Sandow win, I would have liked to have seen Undertaker lose again to Wyatt. I didn't have the least problem with Lesnar Reigns, mostly because of the wardrobe malfunction on Reigns vest that made Lesnar look like he was the one getting the shit kicked out of him. That was hilarious. Nothing else disappointed me. I wasn't blown away by anything aside from the Rousey involvement I should have but didn't see coming. Maybe it ran long, but those long pauses were filled with rabid fans, that in an indoor setting would have blown the roof off the place, so it didn't bother me much, even when steph appeared to have forgot her lines.

Credit to The Rock for chartering a redeye to make the flight from the east coast once he wrapped at snl at 1am the night before to get to mania to pull this off.

on the whole, sans the sting hhh match, it was a good show. But sting hhh was an abomination from the time dx's music hit on.
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Just waking up the morning after, and backreading. I will say this about nwo's appearance. I did mark a little at seeing all 3 members show up, just because I am a huge fan of the nwo, and also seeing each one take bumps, and especially watching Nash grab his quad when he went down, that was hilarious.

But no, they shouldn't have been there, unless it was to pile on the beatdown of Sting. Nwo and dx were the same exact entity, The Kliq, just kliq north and kliq south. Them fighting makes no sense in this context.

I agree with Pimpy, no one should have come to Sting's aid, but if they were to send someone down to help him, then the ones to help him ideally (talent relations issues aside) are first and foremost.

Lex Luger, they were partners through so much throughout their career, and while they did feud from time to time too, most of their careers they were on very close friendly terms. After Luger there are 4 others that make a lot of sense.

The Steiner Brothers are probably the next best option as they too were at Sting's most of their early career.

During the monday night war, DDP and Goldberg were the other 2 members of wcw's biggest name defenders against the nwo, them coming out together with no one else in Sting's corner would have been epic as fuck.

Lastly, due to the fact that they spent pretty much their entire careers feuding Ric Flair makes the least sense of guys that ought to be out there helping Sting, but on nitro's final night when they hugged it out, and then have more or less been on very good terms ever since, bringing down flair, especially considering he too never joined the nwo and was a wcw stalwart makes a good amount of sense in this context, even given flair and triple h's relationship, because I would definitely say flair and Sting's relationship trumps flair and triple h's.

Now, when you take talent relations into account, Scotty Steiner and Bill Goldberg are out. Period. Lex Luger could probably be brought in, but that seems more trouble than it's worth for such a small spot. Flair was at the event, DDP was at the event, and another wcw stalwart, who didn't have any relationship with Sting, but who at least had a very negative relationship with Triple H and was at least a world champion in wcw, albeit after wcw had gone down the crapper rather than when it was at it's peak like ddp, was booker t. Booker was there on supplimentary commentary.

Flair, Booker, and DDP makes a lot of sense for a wcw vs wwf standoff if you're going to do something so stupid. But having best friends who were just the night before holding hands and celebrating together come out and fight over sting who half of them spent so much time trying to beat is doubly stupid.

Sting getting beat is a tough pill to swallow and I wouldn't have liked it in the best of circumstances, like having the entire kliq come out to beat him down, I would not have liked it, ut I could get over that, while grumbling about wcw talent burial the whole time, but this? It was stupid, pure and simple, uneducated, overbooking, completely negating the whole storyline since Sting appeared at the survivor series, and petty burial of wcw all over again. We get it, wcw lost the monday night war, aren't you just so proud of yourselves? This kind of booking was one crude sex joke at the expense of their female talents away from the exact thing that drove me away for 6 years.

Now, all that said. I've really no complaint anywhere else on the card. Yeah, I would have liked to have seen Sandow win, I would have liked to have seen Undertaker lose again to Wyatt. I didn't have the least problem with Lesnar Reigns, mostly because of the wardrobe malfunction on Reigns vest that made Lesnar look like he was the one getting the shit kicked out of him. That was hilarious. Nothing else disappointed me. I wasn't blown away by anything aside from the Rousey involvement I should have but didn't see coming. Maybe it ran long, but those long pauses were filled with rabid fans, that in an indoor setting would have blown the roof off the place, so it didn't bother me much, even when steph appeared to have forgot her lines.

Credit to The Rock for chartering a redeye to make the flight from the east coast once he wrapped at snl at 1am the night before to get to mania to pull this off.

on the whole, sans the sting hhh match, it was a good show. But sting hhh was an abomination from the time dx's music hit on.

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Im so goad WWE didnt let Lesnar lose. The ending to Mania was fantastic. I expected Reigns to come out on top and Rollins to cash in, but im so very happy they went the route they did. Much much better. Lesnar sweats money when he walks around, the way hes been booked is amazing and they kept his aura alive. Plus, just purely as a fan, so stoked Rollins got the title. That shit was just the tits.
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