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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fletch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25/October/2015 at 14:43
I disagree that it would be a backwards step, Roman Reigns who is clearly the chosen star of the group needs a reformation more than ever. As a face Reigns is getting rejected by fans every week during his promos which in fairness to him aren't even that bad, fans just don't want to cheer him and WWE will eventually have to acknowledge him and turn him.
Rollins is obviously already established as a top heel leaving only Ambrose who is popular as a babyface but it's pretty clear he's expendable at this point, WWE don't see him as a headliner either as a heel or face, I'm sure they view him as a upper-bracket mid-card act who can fill in quite nicely in the main-events when the true headliners aren't around, but ultimately it doesn't matter too much on a grand scale if he works as face or heel.

So I say put the group together again as heels, maybe introduce a fourth member as well, Baron Corbin would be a good fit.
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Adders, you're nuts as always.

Reigns and Ambrose are turning heel tonight, I just know it (not really) and the wwe champion will have better backup than J&J ever was, and we'll be set up nicely for Shield to take the tag titles off the Dudley's at Survivor Series. New Day can turn face as they should be and then feud with the Shield.

At least... That's what I think.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Adders, you're nuts as always.

Reigns and Ambrose are turning heel tonight, I just know it (not really) and the wwe champion will have better backup than J&J ever was, and we'll be set up nicely for Shield to take the tag titles off the Dudley's at Survivor Series. New Day can turn face as they should be and then feud with the Shield.

At least... That's what I think.


I like all of this except for turning New Day face, they are super-over and their gimmick works so well because they're obnoxious heels, transitioning the gimmick to babyface would almost certainly kill off a lot of what makes them so entertaining.

Don't know if Reigns and Ambrose are turning tonight but it's on the cards, probably before Wrestlemania 32.
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Well after all these rumors and storyline ideas (and I see them even if I don't want to) on TUP and otherwise about Reigns maybe turning heel and joining the "Authority" (with or without Rollins) or Ambrose turning heel and maybe doing the same; I just want to say that after watching the Survivor Series I am glad that they did not. I like the fact that Reigns and Ambrose act like friends and I like the fact that after their hard fought battle at Survivor Series in the tournament final (and it was a good match) they embraced and supported each other. I know that the powers that be might turn one of them later down the road and they might fight each other but for now I like that they are the way they are. 

And as I predict Rollins might be a good guy when he returns (as, as I said in the Survivor Series thread, I think he will feel ostracized that Hunter Hearst Helmsley favored Sheamus and that would lead to the Rollins vs Helmsley feud that myself and some others are predicting), I actually think next year the Shield might be reunited as good guys. There would be a lot of nostalgia there. 

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Well, I never really cared very much about seeing Reigns or Ambrose turn heel and then feud with the other, but I DO like the idea of BOTH of them turning heel and joining with WWE Champion Seth Rollins. Now that THAT is off the table thanks to Rollins' injury, the whole thing is moot as far as I'm concerned. Shield reforming as a face team is perfectly fine with me, heel or face I don't much care, I just liked the chemistry they've had together, and I hope sooner rather than later we get to see it again.


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Well reports have said Rollins is set to return as a babyface next year which will open up the possibility of a Shield reunion as faces. As the group they were popular and it would be very difficult for them to get heel heat now so if it's ever to happen it would likely need to be as a face group, it might be a smart way to really get the fans to warm up to Reigns as well.

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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

it might be a smart way to really get the fans to warm up to Reigns as well.

That's another good point. There's no way most fans are gonna cheer for Reigns over Ambrose if Dean turns heel, and Vince is adamant on Reigns remaining a major face so he's probably not turning heel either.
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Originally posted by Pac-Man Pac-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

it might be a smart way to really get the fans to warm up to Reigns as well.

That's another good point. There's no way most fans are gonna cheer for Reigns over Ambrose if Dean turns heel, and Vince is adamant on Reigns remaining a major face so he's probably not turning heel either.


Yeah which I'm pretty sure is why the Ambrose/Reigns feud hasn't happened yet, at this point it's clear turning Ambrose heel to feud with Roman would do Reigns no favours as he would almost certainly be jeered while heel Ambrose would get a strong face reaction. Plus what would that achieve? Ambrose would job for Reigns and then slip to mid-card status while the win would do nothing for Reigns except prove the fans prefer Ambrose, but Vince sees Roman as the money man not Dean so who cares what the fans think.

I actually like Reigns as a babyface, he's got a Goldberg style intensity about him and he's proving to be pretty capable both in the ring and on the mic, I would welcome a Shield reunion as faces as a group of cool anti-authority heroes.
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Originally posted by Pac-Man Pac-Man wrote:

What else is off the table, or at least held off for a year, is the idea of a Shield triple threat match for the world title. Honestly, they had the opportunity with Seth Rollins' title reign and everything he'd done since betraying the Shield up to the WrestleMania cash-in to pretty much turn Seth into a major ruthless villain. Had they done that, we wouldn't be talking about a Shield reunion right now because we'd be talking about a blood feud between the three that could extend off and on for a good 5-7 years. The trouble with that is they obviously either had something else in the cards or had no idea what they were doing.

If Seth's return doesn't consist of screwing the Authority over, gearing up to fight Helmsley at SummerSlam '16, and apologizing to his brothers for chairing them in the back if they're both still face, I will loudly proclaim that Mr. and Mrs. Stephanie still have a golden shovel, because the idea that Seth Rollins would crawl back to them after all that will be a worse burial of his character than anything that could happen in a match.

Those are two excellent points, Pac Man. One, that if things had either gone or been designed different there could have been that "blood feud" between all the former Shield members and Seth portrayed as truly evil and manipulating. The cinder block incident comes to mind. Stuff like that could surely have been built on. I like your point that that could have been either they planned something better at the time or were completely incompetent. I'm leaning towards the latter. Quite frankly I don't think Mercury & Noble did Rollins any favors. 

The way things are now it upon analyzing it seems like Helmsley is the one manipulating and Rollins the pawn. 

Which leads to your second point I quoted, that if Rollins were to rejoin with the McMahon-Helmsley Era it would make him look foolish and a tad weak. Rollins almost has to be a face. 

Thus the answer is to either turn one of Ambrose or Reigns later or have all three reunited as good guys. I can see them teasing both; just like they teased Shield breakups in early 2014 before Rollins joined Helmsley. 

But as said I like Reigns and Ambrose as the friends that they are. The two have respect for each other and they seem to have a trust. Then again, that could make a turn by on of them all that more shocking and dramatic if done right. 

But the thing is that even if the Shield were to have had that "blood feud" earlier or if they later do have a similar betrayal by Reigns or Ambrose and subsequent explosion at some point down the road, it is of course inevitable the Shield will get back together at some point. I think the perfect example is the war, or "blood feud" if you will, between former DX members Hunter Hearst Helmsley and Shawn Michaels from 2002-2004. It appeared in mid 2002 that the two main DX members were reunited until Helmsley orchestrated a parking garage attack on Michaels. This lead to their Street Fight at SummerSlam 2002, the Chamber at the 2002 Survivor Series, their Last Man Standing at the 2004 Royal Rumble, etc. Then of course after their "blood feud" was over, they got together again in 2006 and remained storyline connected through the end of Michaels' career and on for ever. 

Fuck even the Rockers eventually got together again after the 1991 Barber Shop incident when Michaels threw Marty through the window. It took awhile as Michaels enjoyed glory in the WWF while Jannetty former the New Rockers and then went to WCW as a mid carder; but it happened.   

There will always be demands for a Shield reunion. It will happen no matter how far away it is. 

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Well Rollins vs Triple H is apparently planned for Summerslam 2016 so would seem the Rollins face turn will be happening and a Shield reunion a strong possibility.

A interesting route to go would be for a Authority faction vs the Shield feud through 2016, would allow Trips and Steph to recruit some new talent for their team.
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