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Originally posted by Hulkamania4eva Hulkamania4eva wrote:

Wresters don't need to with Hogan. Working with Hogan is easy because he has the crowd in the palm of his hand. Back in 2002 (and I got this form an Interview with Chris Jericho from another site), he was working alot of house shows with the Smackdown guy and Hogan would come in to talk aout the match. They basically told him to jsut show up and jericho's reasoning for it was becuase working wiht Hogan was so easy. They way he could handle a live crowd made it so easy for them to put the match together.
 
They way i see it in my opinion is that if your in the match with Hogan your status is increased. Your stock is increased. The guy worked main event programs with Big Boss man and bad News Brown. Bad News has gone on record as saying it was teh easiest match he worked and he couldn't hear himself think when Hogan came out.
 
The difference between Bret and FLair si this. Flair had great matches with great opponenets. Funk, Rhodes, Steamboat etc. Hart had great matches with EVERYONE. From Bam Bam to Hakushi etc. They weren't terrible but not in the class of the guys Flair wrestled. That makes Bret the better worker. 
 
Oh, don't get me wrong, HM. I am actually old enough to remember the inception of Hukamania. I don't argue the mystique, or the reality of what Hogan brings to a card. But, Hogan is at the stage in his career where he has to be careful about who he wrestles.....IMHO, his match with Orton really didn't do either of them any favors at Summerslam. There is a point where wrestlers "go"...and, whenever one wrestles Hogan, they're going to wrestle Hogan's match. There's no getting around that.
 
But, in terms of him working more matches, or with performers half his age? I'm not so sure. I couldn't imagine a wrestling industry without Hulk Hogan, but at the same time, is he helping, or hurting his legend at this point in his career? Who is there left for him to face? And, should he consider less special appearances, and more working behind the scenes to help shape pro wrestling for the next generation?
 
To be honest, I'd really like to see Hogan do something that helps shape the industry for tomorrow. Pro wrestling is at a stage where it needs to evolve a bit or it will diminish in the face of rising competition ala UFC. And, on that note... You can't take away the fact that Hogan helped shape modern wrestling ala Hulkamania in the 80s, and the NWO in the 90s. It's obvious he has some creativity, or is the luckiest guy on earth. (And, to that extent, no, I don't believe in luck like that.)
 
Wouldn't it be great if Hogan could do it again? I think he could, but I don't know if this requires him stepping into the ring so much as offering insight towards something new, different, and innovative.
 
(In any case, this is little more than opinion. But, that is mine in terms of what kind of role I'd like to see Hogan take in the future...)


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The only thing I can say in response to 'sentryofdoom' post is this. Does Hogan realy wrestle that much anymore? He has had two programs in the last 3 years. The answer is no.
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Quote The Canadian Press interviewed Brooke Hogan and Hulk Hogan regarding Brooke Hogan’s latest album. In the interview Hulk Hogan compared his career to Brooke Hogan’s, commenting, "I've been classified as the greatest wrestler of all-time, but the truth is, there were thousands of wrestlers that were better than me. I'm not a good wrestler. But I had a look, and I talked a certain way, and timing-wise, I was very lucky."
 
And the prize for saying the biggest understatement of the year goes to Hulk Hogan LOL Fairplay to him for actually admitting something like this as his ego as stopped a comment like this coming out years earlier. The truth is he is 2nd to only Vince when it comes to doing things for the wrestling business. Yeah Vince could have put anyone in that Hulk role. But Terry Bollea really made it work and if he hadn't come along then wrestling could have still been in the dark ages. I think Hogan might only have one more match left in him. Afterall he more or less admitted this in his last speech he did on the WWE website.
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Originally posted by Hulkamania4eva Hulkamania4eva wrote:

Originally posted by Phoenix Phoenix wrote:

Admin, I wholeheartedly agree with most of what you said.
 
When I was a kid, I loved Hogan. He was flashy and entertaining. Then I grew up and realised that he was just flashy. I don't see why people still cheer him on when he's clearly not a great wrestler. Sure, he can hype the crowd but, if you paid to see wrestling, why would you want to watch an old guy with too much fake tan frop a crappy looking elbow on anyone? He hasn't moved with the times, he's still very much stuck in the 80's/90's. Honestly... I'd rather see Flair wrestle now.
 
If I critisised CM Punk based on his ECW run, you would tell me to watch his ROH stuff. I am telling you to watch Hogan's JAPANESE stuff.
 
You would rather see Flair have a cardiac arrest in the middle of the ring than see Hogan wrestle 15 minutes? LMAO. Moving with the times? Flair still tries to wrestle like he didnt in the 80's and 90's. LMAO.
 
Ahh, I've had enough.
 
You gotta give it up to Flair though, he puts his body through alot and still gets back in the ring, i mean for christ sakes he was in the money in the bank ladder match!! then he battled big show in an extreme rules match, he received a huge ovation for his efforts, now as for Hogan, in Japan he wrestles, actual moves and he doesnt hulk up and his finishers are completely different because over there, the crowd is expecting a whole different show, they arent into these gimmicks that we have, they have pure wrestling, which is what I like! ROH, CZW, ECW, IWA, NOAH, TNA...ect.. all good feds. WWE, NEW ECW, these gimmicks they have like "king" Booker they just arent cutting it nemore, im not 7 you know and thats what Vince thinks, that all his fans are fucking 7 which is why everything is soooo toned down, take a gander at ECW man is it weak...ive seen more hardcore battles at the grocery store during thanksgiving season between two grandmas fighting over a turkey than in the new ECW
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Originally posted by Hulkamania4eva Hulkamania4eva wrote:

The only thing I can say in response to 'sentryofdoom' post is this. Does Hogan realy wrestle that much anymore? He has had two programs in the last 3 years. The answer is no.
 
Actually if im not mistaken, Hulk Hogan's had quite a few stints in the WWE within the last 3 years, there was his run with the nWo uptill he was Mr. America gimmick (from No Way Out 2002 to Smackdown July 2nd 2003), then from Wrestlemania 21 upto Summerslam 2005 and again from June 26th 2006 upto Summerslam 2006, so he's had 3 runs with the WWE.


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Hogan deserves credit for staying face so long. He was a face for over two decades, before turning heel and joining the NWO. How many people in that time would have changed from heel to face a dozen times ? Hogan did well to keep so fresh in the same face persona. To his credit he didn't even have to do the whole Mr America thing. That could (and probably did) do him more harm than good. Plus i have never known a wrestler to make grown men cry. Did you see the crowd when he turned heel at Bash At The Beech LOL Their was nothing anybody could do to keep Hogan face against The Rock. You cannot force the fans to cheer for someone.
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HULK HOGAN is THE ICON of Pro-Wrestling... if one person was ever synonymous with wrestling then it most certainly is the HULKSTER. He's the biggest star of all time. That's a big claim to make I know, but it's hard to argue with it. He's made the most money, sold the most merchandise, drawn the biggest crowds, beat the biggest stars and had one of the longest careers ON TOP (as they say).

 

I know his actual wrestling skills are a bit limited but I have seen him involved in some very enjoyable matches over the years. From his classic with Randy Savage at Mania 5 to matches with people like Mr. Perfect, Ted Debiase… hell even THE ROCK!!! Hulk knows how to work the crowd and he can perform when the pressure is on. He's a big guy, so of course he's not going to be able to move around like say Shawn Michaels (he's nearly twice his size for god sakes). Hogan gets a bad rep for being selfish and shamelessly self promoting. Hey, this is pro wrestling… name one guy, ON TOP, who isn't like that???

 

At the end of the day, Hulk may never be my favorite wrestler but I still mark out whenever I see him on TV. That nostalgia feel just gets the better of me every time. The only time I think I've ever wanted Hulk to lose was at Summerslam 05 against Mr.Michaels. That was the only time.

 

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Originally posted by Hulkamania4eva Hulkamania4eva wrote:

The only thing I can say in response to '[COLOR=#ff8440">sentryofdoom[/COLOR">' post is this. Does Hogan realy wrestle that much anymore? He has had two programs in the last 3 years. The answer is no.


3 in the last last two years.
Davari & Hassan vs Hulk Hasbeen & Micheals
HBK vs Hasbeen
Orton vs Hasbeen

Honestly that was 3 too many.
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The Hassan program tied in with the HBK program. It was a prelude to thier match. They needed to establish a closeness betweent HBK and Hogan so HBK could get some genuine heat when he turned on him.
 
Sorry for the double post, but...
Check out the 8 minute mark.


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Originally posted by The SteelDragon The SteelDragon wrote:


3 in the last last two years.
Davari & Hassan vs Hulk Hasbeen & Micheals
HBK vs Hasbeen
Orton vs Hasbeen

Honestly that was 3 too many.
 
also u've forgotten his other matches:
 
Hogan vs Kurt Angle (August 8, 2005) - he won that by DQ
Hogan & HBK vs Carlito & Kurt Angle (July 4, 2005) - Hogan got the pin, go figure
Hogan, Cena & HBK vs Christian, Jericho & Tomko (June 27, 2005) - again he got the pin, no surprises there...
 
So thats 6 matches The Hulkster has had in the last 2 years and thats 6 matches too many I agree, lol. Lets all bury superstars shall we? Lets take the hot spot of Cena, lets take it of Jericho, Kurt Angle, HBK and others, thats what the Hulkster does.


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