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    Posted: 11/March/2008 at 17:29

From Jim Ross Website..............

Quote Hi JR. My question is rather simple. Why is Ric Flair considered the greatest in ring performer of all time? I am not a newbie fan of professional wrestling and have been watching it religiously since 1986 when I was 4. I have seen countless matches by the WWE, WCW, ECW, NWA, Mid Atlantic (which ended up becoming the NWA) WCCW, IWGP, All Japan, and a list that can go on forever, so it is not as if I am oblivious to all things wrestling. Al though I think Ric is in the top 5 of the biggest names of all time (the others being Hogan, Austin, Andre, and the Rock), worked his behind off every night like no other, had INCREDIBLE promos, and was the franchise of all things NWA back in the 1980’s, I never found about 85-90% of his matches to be "dramatic." In his recent book "Hitman," Bret Hart mentions that he thought Ric lacked in ring psychology. I agree. I have always thought Ric’s matches were more about great athletiscm as opposed to drama. For example, back at Starrcade 1993 when he pinned Vader out of nowhere when the crowd was not only not expecting it, but really not as much into the match as they could and should have been when wrestlers "go home," it lacked drama. It is kind of like when Razor Ramon pinned Dean (Shane) Douglas at In Your House 10/95 to win the I-C belt. The pin was not only out of nowhere, but the crowd was not where they should have been when an ending is going to come. Fans like having their emotions played with, and usually the most memorable finishes are the ones in which the crowd can "feel" an ending coming, and are on the edge of their seats, as opposed to the IYH example I just gave, or for MANY of Ric’s matches. I know you probably disagree since this is all subjective, but I have been told my opinion is crazy. I think I at least have a point to make. Whether I am right or wrong is in the eye of the beholder, but I certainly feel like I make a well thought out position. Does my point at least have some validity, regardless of how much?

Your point is well made and not without you giving it plenty of thought, but I politely disagree. Yes, these things are subjective which means there most likely is no 100% right answer, but in my eyes Flair is the best ever.

Completely different thread to the other two currently active about him. I want to know your favourite moments of his career and his worst ones as well. The best for me was when he won the Royal Rumble. He hadn't been there long after jumping from WCW and lasted the whole match. His faction days with the Horseman is another plus of his career. The minus points probably being when WCW had him losing his mentality. That really was in the VERY dark days of WCW.

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Jim Ross Website: I have seen on various wrestling websites that polls and columns have been written about who is Ric Flair’s greatest opponent or "Naitch’s" greatest match. I have read some really entertaining and informative material on this subject, many of which brought back some great memories. After looking at many of the bouts up for nomination as Flair’s greatest opponent or Ric’s greatest matches it’s humbling to realize that I have had the honor of broadcasting more than my fair share of these classics.

In my opinion, Ric’s greatest opponent, as far as match quality and continuing to raise the bar each and every time they competed, has to be Ricky Steamboat. I know Ric feels this way too. There is no doubt that the greats of the game like Harley Race, Dusty Rhodes,Wahoo McDaniel, Terry Funk, etc, among many others, deserve "props," but Steamboat truly brought out the best in Ric and visa versa.

Flair and Steamboat had many classics over the years and some of their stuff in the late 70s was awe inspiring, but their rivalry in and round 1989 was the stuff that most fans will remember and be best familiar with, as it was during the days of PPV and live, cable TV specials. I do not recall in my 30+ years in the business a better and more compelling, dramatically athletic story being told in the ring than between these two artisans in ‘89 while we were all atWCW working for Ted Turner. These two were silky smooth, but don’t think for one second that these two men were not overtly physical with each other, because they were…trust me on that one.

For any young wrestler or wrestling wanna be, I strongly suggest you familiarize yourself with Flair vs. Steamboat in any form you can access it and truly study the chemistry these two had and the philosophy as to why their matches created magic.

Steamboat, for my money, is a WWE Hall of Famer to be, and it would be great to see Ric Flair induct arguably "Naitch’s" greatest opponent.

well a very good post from jr on this subject. i personally havent seen any of these matches to my memory, probally because i wasnt even born LOL but with jrs 30+ years of experiance in this buisness, im not really going to debate him. anyone here argree with this also, and have seen the matches jr speaks of?

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I've also got to agree on Steamboat as his greatest ever opponent. It should have been Hulk Hogan, but politics got in the way, unlike with Steamboat. These two put on stellar performances night after night in the old days and to this day it's a fued that's still spoken about regularly. Sting was another of Ric's best fueds and he did a lot to get Sting over. WWE wise I enjoyed his Undertaker fued, but his best work storyline wise was always away from WWE.

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Will Ric Flair ever wrestle again?

Yes - 49%
No - 51%

(2,003 votes total)

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well most people dont see it happening which is what i think, at least not for the wwe because that would ruin the whole angle and big good bye they done for him. but i can maybe see him doing a odd match or two for an indy promotion if the wwe lets him, or maybe wwe involve him in a storyline or two, not actively wrestling but maybe just around or playing a mentor to someone.

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From Jim Ross Website..........

Quote Speaking of North Carolina, Smackdown is taped next Tuesday in Charlotte and does any one else find it strange that Ric Flair is not "officially" a part of either of the proceedings in Raleigh or Charlotte? Perhaps we will get a Nature Boy surprise "drive by" at one of the events. With or without "The Naitch" present, there will be many "Whoo’s" in North Carolina next Monday and Tuesday. Ric’s awesome DVD is out now and, again, after watching it over the 4th of July weekend, I strongly suggest you check it out. It would also make a great gift for the wrestling fan in your life. WWE Home Video hit a grand slam on this production. It is one of the best wrestling DVDs I have ever watched.

* Jim Ross must have known when he wrote it that eventually Flair's appearance would be made official.

* I'm glad that this time Flair got mentioned in advance and didn't end up being a surprise turn up.

* It wouldn't have been a surprise anyway because many would have expected Flair to be there anyway with it being Charlotte.

* Rather surprising that they only had him appear in front of the live crowd and not on the show.

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Originally posted by devilkin07 devilkin07 wrote:

Jim Ross Website: I have seen on various wrestling websites that polls and columns have been written about who is Ric Flair’s greatest opponent or "Naitch’s" greatest match. I have read some really entertaining and informative material on this subject, many of which brought back some great memories. After looking at many of the bouts up for nomination as Flair’s greatest opponent or Ric’s greatest matches it’s humbling to realize that I have had the honor of broadcasting more than my fair share of these classics.

In my opinion, Ric’s greatest opponent, as far as match quality and continuing to raise the bar each and every time they competed, has to be Ricky Steamboat. I know Ric feels this way too. There is no doubt that the greats of the game like Harley Race, Dusty Rhodes,Wahoo McDaniel, Terry Funk, etc, among many others, deserve "props," but Steamboat truly brought out the best in Ric and visa versa.

Flair and Steamboat had many classics over the years and some of their stuff in the late 70s was awe inspiring, but their rivalry in and round 1989 was the stuff that most fans will remember and be best familiar with, as it was during the days of PPV and live, cable TV specials. I do not recall in my 30+ years in the business a better and more compelling, dramatically athletic story being told in the ring than between these two artisans in ‘89 while we were all atWCW working for Ted Turner. These two were silky smooth, but don’t think for one second that these two men were not overtly physical with each other, because they were…trust me on that one.

For any young wrestler or wrestling wanna be, I strongly suggest you familiarize yourself with Flair vs. Steamboat in any form you can access it and truly study the chemistry these two had and the philosophy as to why their matches created magic.

Steamboat, for my money, is a WWE Hall of Famer to be, and it would be great to see Ric Flair induct arguably "Naitch’s" greatest opponent.

well a very good post from jr on this subject. i personally havent seen any of these matches to my memory, probally because i wasnt even born LOL but with jrs 30+ years of experiance in this buisness, im not really going to debate him. anyone here argree with this also, and have seen the matches jr speaks of?



go get the last two DVD sets they've released for Flair.  There are some great matches with Steamboat along with others. 
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From Jim Ross Website...............

Quote Some folks speculate that after 36 years that Ric will be unable to retire like so many of his predecessors a la Verne Gagne, Bill Watts, Terry Funk, etc to name just two of the many who "retired" and then a few years (months) later unretired. I have the feeling that Ric is truly done because the business today offers former stars so many unique opportunities to earn a great living, whereas that did not exist years ago. I hope Ric never wrestles again as he will be 60 next February 25 and 36 years in the ring is damned sure enough.

I hear that the 2008 Wrestlemania 24 DVD will be released soon using Blu Ray technology and will include the WWE Hall of Fame, essentially in its entirety. Flair’s speech is worth the price of the entire package I assure you.

Have you read former Horseman Ole Anderson’s most recent comments about Ric Flair and Ric’s induction into the Hall of Fame? Don’t bother, unless you really get off on negativity. Ole was such a brilliant mind in his day and a government mule tough wrestler but his dogged, negativity is sad. I have great respect for Ole the performer, but wish he would find more happiness in his life. Perhaps he is happy and if so good for him.

* Only time will tell if he will stay retired or not. However I would hope so as I don't want to see him wrestling into the seventh decade of his life.

* His speech unedited i'm sure will be great viewing (as i've not seen it as of yet).

* What's up with Ole being negative? That's his choice and even if you don't agree with what was said, it was an opinion.

* I hope Ric can be successful at none wrestling things and so can still have a comfortable living with his money worries.

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Favorite Moment was Ric Flair vs Sting at Clash of the Champions 1988 For The World Heavyweight Championship.  Also was classic JR on commentary with Tony Schiavone.

The match went to a 35 minute time limit draw and was then handed over to the the judges.  Judge Patty Mullen scored for Flair; Judge Gary Juster scored for Sting and Judge Sandy Scott declared the match a draw and that is how it ended, a draw and Flair thus retains the NWA World Championship.

My next favorite Flair moment was in 1994 at Clash of the Champions XXVII when Ric Flair faced Sting again to unify the WCW and NWA titles. Flair rolls sting up with the school boy for the three count to become the Unified Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World.
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From Jim Ross Website........

Quote I received 2 great voice mails from Ric Flair Tuesday while I was in route from OKC-Nashville. Ric sounded great, upbeat and busy. His recent controversy seems to have two distinctly different stories. Ric is in the process of recording a DVD interview that he seems excited about. This one should contain some interesting "road stories" and career highlights and lowlights. It was great hearing from Ric who is following his friend Steve Spurrier’s South Carolina Game****s and also keeps up with another friend Bob Stoops’ Oklahoma Sooners.

* I've heard about his first ever shoot interview and look forward to some honesty from Ric.

* He's said stuff on his WWE DVDs, but can only say so much whilst employed by them.

* If what happened with his daughter has two different stories, i've only seen one of them mentioned.

* It's great that Ric is so busy with opportunites he wasn't able to do in the past.

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Originally posted by thatbriguy thatbriguy wrote:

Favorite Moment was Ric Flair vs Sting at Clash of the Champions 1988 For The World Heavyweight Championship.  Also was classic JR on commentary with Tony Schiavone.

The match went to a 35 minute time limit draw and was then handed over to the the judges.  Judge Patty Mullen scored for Flair; Judge Gary Juster scored for Sting and Judge Sandy Scott declared the match a draw and that is how it ended, a draw and Flair thus retains the NWA World Championship.

My next favorite Flair moment was in 1994 at Clash of the Champions XXVII when Ric Flair faced Sting again to unify the WCW and NWA titles. Flair rolls sting up with the school boy for the three count to become the Unified Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World.

45 Minute draw actually...
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