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    Posted: 01/March/2015 at 17:42

OK Take #4... if I fuckup and lose everything this time I'm really going to throw an impudent nerd rage fit right here in my chair in front of my keyboard.

 
 
Originally posted by SHOUTBOX SHOUTBOX wrote:

John The Baptist: lol Rousey won in 13 seconds... why aren't WWE using her at Wrestlemania...
John The Baptist: Brock was there too
Rico Len: Rousey's gone on record and left an open call with the wwe to work a match at mania.
Rico Len: I would rather see her involved as an outsider at mania than john stewart
Raven: It would be impossible to suspend disbelief long enough to think that any Diva would last more than 30 seconds against her. No point using her.
Rico Len: The visitor always wins. That's the rule. Mr. T won, LT won, Snookie won, Maria Menunos won. Mayweather won. Trump won. Name a diva you want to see get her ass beat and Rousey will make it a draw while the diva (Nikki Bella) makes the match look "wwe quality"
Rico Len: 10 seconds of a bell ringing, Nikki charging Rousey, Rousey dropping her putting her in an armbar and she taps. Easy money. Bella brags and brags and brags to build the match, Rousey does the dirty work, Charlotte Flair and Rousey throw up the 4 horsemen sign, smarks get it and Flair is established as a player on the main roster.
Raven: Yeah, the visitor wins, but weeks of build up, tv time, and money, for what could only last five minutes on a four hour show, only 30 seconds of which could actually be a match, is a waste of time.
Raven: I'm not necessarily against it, but I can totally see why WWE are.
HBKDX97: Mr. T never won. FYI.
John The Baptist: WWE are getting pressured hard to push the women and Rousey is a huge draw, its never made more sense than it does now
Raven: Who's pressuring them to push the women? People have been bitching about it since 06/07, when Trish and Lita retired, it hasn't got any worse lately
John The Baptist: Demi Lovato was fangirling over Rousey on Twitter, she has 22 million followers, 4 times as many as the WWE have, Rousey has far reaching influence and dat mainstream cred WWE lust after
John The Baptist: But sure, an 8 diva tag match lasting 4 minutes would be Mania quality huh Raven you {censored for the homosexual slur}
John The Baptist: and Mr T won with Hogan at the first Mania
John The Baptist: youve all been schooled, be thankful I didnt embarass you in a thread and this all gets erased
Raven: No Divas match is Mania quality, they should be left off the card. {censored for the homosexual slur}.
Raven: Why do you even know what Demi Lovato is fangirling over on Twitter? The fuck is wrong with you?
John The Baptist: UFC retweeted her, I follow them nigga
John The Baptist: She was there too, so was Vin Diesel and Will Smith's wife
John The Baptist: A-Listers
John The Baptist: Whos pressuring them to push the women? Are you srs
John The Baptist: Practically all the divas are in revolt, AJ called out Stephanie McMahon and prol will get fired. Whether its a storyline or not WWE will keel over, Vince already said hes gonna push the bitches
John The Baptist: I never have and never will care about any pro athlete with a fanny, but Rousey is over as fuck
Raven: Nobody gives a fuck what the Divas want, they'll never get pushed while Vince is alive
HBKDX97: You're right about Wrestlemania 1, I thought it had ended in a DQ for some reason
Rico Len: If you use twitter look up #GiveDivasAChance. After the NXT fourway and Sasha Banks brought the house down and they once again outshined the main event the divas have been in revolt and fans have been bandwagoning it in support.
Raven: ... Goddamn it. Fuck the fans, Divas wrestling is awful. Even the great Divas matches are slightly above average for men's matches. People need to stop having such low standards just because the people they're watching are (usually) hot
Fletch: The women's matches in NXT have been good but they've failed to dazzle me like they have others, maybe they seem great because a typical Divas match is so bad meaning the bar is not exactly set high.
DangerZone ( 27 minutes ago at 09:32 ) : ^these guys get it^

TL;DR version: Women are pissed. Ronda Rousey. Vince is a hypocrite. New Occupy Raw. Too Late for Mania.

 
 
TL;DR AJ Fired.

Maybe I'll expand this more later, but probably not.

 
But I figure this is likely to become a real storyline in the WWE at this point and the discussion should be saved and made it's own thread too.
 
(Also: the moral of this story is this: Always remember to select all, cut, and paste your posts before you hit the post button, because fuck it all if you write a shit-ton and it gets lost. It's your own damned fault if you don't just do that simple thing first.)
 
EDIT: Also, when you read this adders, go look at the history behind my edits, you ought to get a laugh out of that. :D


Edited by Rico Len - 01/March/2015 at 18:05
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So I noticed backstage during the interview segment with Paige and AJ Lee, that AJ said she came back to "give divas a chance" so they're obviously running with this storyline. It appears they're pairing up AJ and Paige against the Bella twins. Seems this is their preliminary idea for a divas segment at Mania. But as far as where they plan on going with it, I don't know.
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the problem with that is, as much as both Bellas have improved in the ring, they are still pretty dire, so it will be two talent female wrestlers, against two dvas, so the only time both talents will be in the ring at the same time is when the match breaks down.
 
still, will be good for 3:54.
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You know? I'm not really sure how bad the Bellas actually are. I had no idea Foxxy Love or whatever her name is was actually pretty great in the ring until she went to NXT and had a couple of killer matches. Paige and Natty and Emma barely show any hint that they're great wrestlers on main roster shows, but all 3 of them have put on clinics down in NXT. AJ is another one I didn't really think was worth a shit until I saw her with Paige in NXT.

IF and that's IF the main roster were to start booking matches in the Diva's division to be more like they are down in NXT, and give them time to wrestle the same kind of matches, then... well... then the smark crowd would shit all over it and start chanting boring because they're being assholes, that's what's really going to happen. Women's matches in NXT get over because the crowd wants wrestling and they're used to getting some of the best matches from the women, Paige vs Emma, or Charlotte vs Sasha would have bombed on a WWE PPV simply because the crowd is different and they would have shit all over everything like a bunch of cunts. (... because, you know? Cunts do that.)
 
So then what happens? Vince thinks he's right to book the women the way he does, and nothing gets fixed. They're going to have to get some kind of storyline behind it first so that the smarks will be interested in giving the storyline where "wrestling matters" or whatever the fuck they want to go with a chance to succeed when they put on an NXT style match that takes a while to build, and not just chant boring the second someone uses a headlock or wristlock or something.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ihatethatmonkee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/March/2015 at 00:07
honestly, it's not completely down to the smarks and cunts in the crowd.
 
after Trish and Lita left, we were left with a very threadbare womens' pool, with Johnny Ace continuing what he had already started while both were still around until we got to the point where we had Barbie Blank and others who made womens' matches a piss break.
 
while there have been the odd couple of good womens' matches on both Raw and PPV, the problem is we're all currently in the mindset of "if it's on main roster WWE, it's going to be shit", and more often than not, it is shit.
 
it means we're more likely to miss the good if and when it happens.
 
to say that NXT has great womens' matches doesn't matter, because those matches will not happen on main roster WWE programming. you could have Emma vs Paige twice in one week, once on Raw and once on NXT, and one will flow, and one will be done in a way that neither will really come out of it looking that good.
 
it was the same during Raw.  there were blown spots, not because the talent is inept, but because the pace of the match was faster than it should have been.  even when AJ came in, she very clearly miss timed the double kick with Paige, and made no contact with whichever Bella it was they were supposed to kick at the same time.  that wouldn't happen in NXT, but it happens all the time in main roster WWE programming, so when even those considered the best of the current crop fuck up, you know the division is still a long way off being given the respect it needs.
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Yah, that's what I'm saying, at this point even if the Divas were to have a great match, we've seen so many shit matches and slow boring crap matches, and waste of time matches from the divas, that the crowd would crap all over it before they even gave it a chance. It's NOT just the crowd, but if the WWE were to "GiveDivasAChance" at WrestleMania without any kind of storyline behind to get it across to the fans that they're giving them an NXT style match that ought to be a clinic, then that clinic would still end up bombing because of the fans just being smarky cunts.

WWE has yet to actually give this group of divas a legit shot at being better than a 5 minute (with ring entrances) segment. Give them 30 minutes (with ring entrances) where they can have a legit 15-20 minute match with before and after match extracurricular like what they get down in NXT and it'll make a lot of difference IF the crowd has already been conditioned to know that is what they're going to get and not just another waste of talent like usual.
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http://www.wwe.com/videos/aj-lee-vs-summer-rae-raw-march-9-2015-27181857

Give Divas a chance yet at WM the title isn't on the line and it's a tag match instead.

Will management pull the trigger and let them have a 10-15 minute match of a fast NXT style pace?

Nattie fans will disagree but on paper it looks like management have put who they think are the best four divas for wrestling ability so they can impress.
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Then why is Nikki there?....I rate Nikki about the same as Alicia Fox on ability. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rico Len Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/March/2015 at 13:49
From bell to bell both divas matches combined were under 5 minutes. That's not giving the divas a chance. Summer Rae was sloppy, probably out of practice because she was pretty good in NXT.

They are listening, but they are not paying attention or giving the fans what they were asking for.

TBH though a lot of times the fans are just happy to hear their taglines get used on tv, and then they feel appeased. If there were blowback from this then maybe next week there would be one 10 minute match on Raw. That would likely get booed and that would be the end of it.

I don't notice much if any blowback though.
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The main roster girls are so bland, if they are going to highlight anyone then wait till the nXt girls get called up, they have way better characters, not just "shes a Hart relative, so she must be good", "girl who is pale hahahahahah", "bitch" or "crazy woman"

WWE could so easily make a woman one of their biggest stars, they've done it before a bunch of times. Some people are expecting too much from this movement though, it's not like TNA where they had Awesome Kong vs Gail Kim in the main event of Impact, they were on a roll with that feud while the Divas division is buried because it abhorrent to watch.
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