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Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

Has there been a more captivating / reaction drawing WWE superstar than Stone Cold Steve Austin?

This statement says a lot. As seen in this thread, we can have our minor debates about who is more well known or more mainstream; but Stone Cold is certainly up there with the best of them as far as being able to captivate the audience, twenty years ago and now. The Raw reunion proved that. 

To be honest I've watched wresting extremely sporadically over the past year; but when I saw there was a "reunion" show I put that channel on. All the old faces were good to see. It was good to see Hogan and Austin talk. The best part of it is Austin was himself. It didn't appear as if he was being dictated words like a lot of the (poor) promos today. Lines like how he randomly bumped into Ron Simmons at a bar worked great and entertained the crowd. He just spoke for real, just like he did in 1996. Austin was perfect for that spot to close out the show.  

In other words, and this might more belong in the Raw thread, but I am exactly the kind of fan the reunion show was meant to attract. That kind of fan is someone who watched back in the day, saw there was a reunion show and started watching, recognized the people, can relate to the memories, while at the same time being exposed to the current crop of talent to possibly renew interest again. 

So yes, Austin was perfect for that spot. 

In the meantime, I see Rico still hating on the attitude era. Nothing has changed here.  Tongue

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Hey Kon, good to see you again, but I'm not hating on the Attitude Era.
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The business was very different when Austin was the top guy, back then WWE were one of three large wrestling promotions in the US, now they are a global juggernaut with corporate sponsorship deals and PR campaigns coming out of their ears.

So its true to say that Cena is definitely more of a household name due to the extra exposure he has received through his PR work and so forth, Austin was just the figurehead of a wrestling promotion. Should also be noted that Cena has been at the summit of WWE for around 15 years while Austin's run at the top was only around 5-6 years.
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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

So its true to say that Cena is definitely more of a household name due to the extra exposure he has received through his PR work and so forth, Austin was just the figurehead of a wrestling promotion. Should also be noted that Cena has been at the summit of WWE for around 15 years while Austin's run at the top was only around 5-6 years.

True; but two things should be noted...

1. While Austin's time on top of the wrestling world was very short comparatively speaking; it was during a time where there was a massive "boom period" (1997-2001) where wrestling was everywhere very popular with the mainstream, arguably more so than in Cena's top years.  

2. Austin has gotten mainstream exposure by the plenty after his in ring career has ended with movies, TV shows, and talk show appearances, at least here in the States, almost making the fact that he had a shorter time at the top as far as an in ring career moot when gauging mainstream exposure and public recognition. Same with The Rock, although I would concede Rocky was/is more popular. But in my eyes Austin is about even with Cena in this regard.    

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Its true that post Wrestling Austin has kept his name very alive in the mainstream with tv work and doing plenty of B-level action movies. He did appear in supporting roles in a few bigger movies like Grown Ups and The Expendables.

But I would compare Austin to Goldberg in his post wrestling era in that he's got his face out there but hasn't really done much of any real note.

Cena on the other hand seems to be following the same path as The Rock in becoming a big deal in Hollywood. His movie roles have started out much the same as Rock with mostly comedy roles before moving into big budget action stuff.

So right now I would agree that Austin and Cena are about neck and neck but Cena is about to leave Austin far behind in terms of mainstream appeal.
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So weve got Stone Cold on Raw next week to moderate the contract signing between Strowman and Rollins - this should be interesting.

Its always entertaining whenever Stone Cold rocks up so ill make sure i go out of my way to watch this 
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Smart to bring Stone Cold in for this as it should spike ratings for his segment at least.

I do wonder if Austin will get attacked by The Fiend, thing is Austin is always portrayed as a bad ass even now as a retired wrestler so I'm not sure they would want him fed to Wyatt or if Austin would even be agreeable to a angle like that.
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Stone Cold was absolutely awesome.

I think there are a core of people who can get anything over with the crowd, thee include, Jericho, The Miz, The Rock and maybe a few more but i dont think theres been a guy capable of manipulating the crowd and capturing their interests more than Stone Cold Steve Austin.

His stunner on AJ was greeted with an insane pop and i just wish something more materialised out of the Bray Wyatt teases.

I still maintain that there has never been a more "over" superstar for such a prolonged period of time than Stone Cold and im going to say that it will be a very long time before we ever see anything like it again.

And thats the bottom line ... because #Heel said so :)
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Stone Cold was great, I have no problem with these one off special appearances from guys like Austin, it's great nostalgia and theres few better at getting the crowd going, perfect opening segment.

I also hoped he might interact with Wyatt but I do think Austin is the one retired legend that they will still protect to a degree, Stone Cold was such a bad ass in his prime that I think even now approaching two decades since his final match WWE still want to portray him as someone who can get it done in the ring even against guys nearly half his age. So therefore feeding him to Wyatt like they did with Angle, Lawler and Foley would damage him.
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I don't remember the last time Hulk Hogan was fed to anyone either. Granted these days it'd just be bad for his health, but still, even when Hogan was Austin's age, I don't recall Hogan getting fed to anyone by WWE.

I think that's just one of those things that signifies a distinction between those elite members on WWE's Mt. Rushmore and those not. Rock, Austin, & Hogan just don't get fed to people, and once Cena is completely done, it'll be the same for him too, I'm sure.
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