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    Posted: 12/February/2020 at 17:49
The Rock's daughter, Rocky Johnson's granddaughter, High Chief Peter Mavia's great granddaughter, has signed with WWE, making her a 4th generation wrestler. 

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BECKY LYNCH
To The Rock's Daughter ...
BLAZE YOUR OWN WWE TRAIL!!!
2/12/2020 7:24 AM PT

TMZSports.com

Becky Lynch is giving advice to Dwayne Johnson's daughter, telling TMZ Sports ... Simone should NOT try to be the WWE's next "Rock"!!!

And, why? The Man says it'll only overshadow her hard work!!!

"I would like her to be seen as the athlete and performer she is, in her own right, and not have her constantly compared to her dad," Becky says.

Of course, the WWE just announced Simone Johnson is training to become the league's next superstar ... and a lot of people want her to reprise The People's Elbow as her signature move.

Becky tells us she can see a scenario where that would be appropriate for the younger Johnson ... but says Simone would be better off creating her own character and finishing move.

"I think it'll be good for her to try and make her own way," Becky says. "Don't rely on the past. Don't rely on what got other people over. Try to make something new for yourself."

The advice didn't stop there ... Becky also said Simone needs to outwork EVERYBODY -- saying her famous father's shadow is going to create a huge spotlight on her from Day 1.

As for if Becky thinks Simone has the chops to cut it ... The Man says of course -- and tells us she's looking forward to their championship matchup in five years!!

The article includes Becky Lynch's comments during an interview...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e9uOLYKBUY

It's very easy to say that she will be a shoe in for a top spot a few years down the road as a golden child. But not every second or third generation wrestler has had rousing success. Not everyone gets as big as Randy Orton. 

We all know that members of the Anoai/Johnson Samoan family are proud to honor their wrestling heritage; and for sure Simone will. Plus, WWE will likely promote it as such as they did with The Rock himself when he first came in as Rocky Maivia. But in a lot of ways Becky is right. If she's allowed to, Simone should just do her own thing and not try to compare herself to others in her large wrestling family. But as Becky eluded to, the expectations will be high. I will say that I believe Simone will have her father's work ethic, which will go a long way. So we shall see as her career unfolds over the next couple of years. 




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Is Simone the first 4th generation wrestler to sign with WWE? I know they made a big deal about The Rock being the first 3rd generation star, and then made a big deal about Randy Orton and Natalya Neidhart as well, but to my knowledge Simone would be the first 4th generation star.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Is Simone the first 4th generation wrestler to sign with WWE? I know they made a big deal about The Rock being the first 3rd generation star, and then made a big deal about Randy Orton and Natalya Neidhart as well, but to my knowledge Simone would be the first 4th generation star.

I think she is - i definitely cant think of another so thats a pretty cool thing right off the bat

Hopefully she does well and we see her come up through NXT etc 
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I dont think theres anyone else who's a 4th generation so this is a first.  

I'm sure shell do her family proud a few years on the nxt roster should get her up to scratch just as it has so many before her 
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I wouldn't go so far as to say she'll be ANY good. In terms of talent, she could be the next David Flair, or the next Charlotte Flair, or anywhere in between. We'll just have to wait and see what she can do.

A quick search says she's just 18 years old, making her 5 years older than Aurora Rose. See that's where my mind goes when it comes to children (in particular daughters) of attitude era stars. I'm already booking the next generation of The Rock vs Triple H.

The reality is that even if she has all the talent in the world, she could take a bad bump, get concussed and never be allowed to wrestle even before she has her first televised match. I've been big on next gen kids for a long time starting with Joe Hennig, Colt and even Piper Toombs, Noel Foley, and Cody Hall. Yet for all the ability Joe Hennig has, and it's immense, he lacks charisma. Colt quit. Piper has the charisma but no drive. Noel is a talentless sweet-heart best suited for hosting. Finally, Cody just keeps plugging away in Japan not gaining any western notoriety despite having a great look and apparently pretty solid ability in the ring. So for Simone? I don't know where she'll end up, but I wish her luck.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

The reality is that even if she has all the talent in the world, she could take a bad bump, get concussed and never be allowed to wrestle even before she has her first televised match. I've been big on next gen kids for a long time starting with Joe Hennig, Colt and even Piper Toombs, Noel Foley, and Cody Hall. Yet for all the ability Joe Hennig has, and it's immense, he lacks charisma. Colt quit. Piper has the charisma but no drive. Noel is a talentless sweet-heart best suited for hosting. Finally, Cody just keeps plugging away in Japan not gaining any western notoriety despite having a great look and apparently pretty solid ability in the ring. So for Simone? I don't know where she'll end up, but I wish her luck.

Good post; and that says it all right there. As I said I do believe she'll have the work ethic and likely the determination that goes with it. But as you said, neither health nor success is guaranteed to anyone, in WWE or life as a whole. You never know. But the debatable question is whether or not people from already established wrestling families (to no fault of their own) get extra benefit from a greater amount of attention, both from the fans and from the powers that be. 

I have to answer that in the affirmative. After all, how many other random newcomers, men or women, are also beginning their journey besides the subject of this thread? But already WWE representatives (like Hunter Hearst Helmsley) and wrestlers (like Becky above) are talking about Simone more than any other random up and comer. 

So people from wrestling families do get more opportunity. But it is up to them to make the most of it. 

BTW I do believe she is indeed the first 4th generation wrestler in WWE history. 

 

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That's the beauty of early NXT, when people like Daria Barenato and Patrick Clark and Kacy Catanzaro are signed, people paid attention to their growth from day 1 when none of them had been trained much at all to that point.

Daria went on to become Sonya Deville.
Patrick became Velveteen Dream.
Kacy was recently released from her contract and then just returned last month.

Following their stories has been great, especially compared to others who have tried out and failed, nearly all of whom I've forgotten their names, but I followed them just as much as the others until they washed out.

Truth is, just like Charlotte and Noel have both stated, being the child of a famous wrestler is as much of a help as it is a hinderance. But NXT, especially in it's early days would highlight their newest signees and work to keep people updated in their training so you could follow them from day 1.
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Originally posted by L-shizzel L-shizzel wrote:

I dont think theres anyone else who's a 4th generation so this is a first.

WWE has called her the first 4th generation talent to sign with them. But she's not the very first 4th generation talent in wrestling.

Dave Finlay, son of Fit Finlay, currently working with New Japan is also a 4th generation talent. In fact both of his great-grandfathers were pro-wrestlers.

"The Mountie" Jacques Rougeau's 3 sons briefly wrestled. So they were all 4th generation. But none of them pursued wrestling for very long.

Down in Mexico, Bandido & his brother Myzteziz Jr. are both legit 4th generation talents. In Mexico there tends to be a lot of kayfabe relations, while other guys never reveal their family lineage unless they lose their mask. So there's always the possibility that there's a bunch of other 4th gen luchadors.

Dory Funk IV has debuted for his grandfather, Dory Jr's training school promotion. Although billed as a 4th generation talent. Although there's no records of Dory III wrestling. 

I swear I read somewhere that there's some 4th gen guys in India. But I don't follow Indian pro-wrestling. 


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Yeah, looks like Thun beat me to the punch, but here they name Simone as WWE's first 4th generation talent.

I have a feeling this look of Simone's is going to be a lot like that picture of The Rock with the turtleneck, gold chain, and fanny pack, where she looks back years later and wishes she could forget it.

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Originally posted by thundarr2000 thundarr2000 wrote:

Originally posted by L-shizzel L-shizzel wrote:

I dont think theres anyone else who's a 4th generation so this is a first.

WWE has called her the first 4th generation talent to sign with them. But she's not the very first 4th generation talent in wrestling.

Dave Finlay, son of Fit Finlay, currently working with New Japan is also a 4th generation talent. In fact both of his great-grandfathers were pro-wrestlers.

"The Mountie" Jacques Rougeau's 3 sons briefly wrestled. So they were all 4th generation. But none of them pursued wrestling for very long.

Down in Mexico, Bandido & his brother Myzteziz Jr. are both legit 4th generation talents. In Mexico there tends to be a lot of kayfabe relations, while other guys never reveal their family lineage unless they lose their mask. So there's always the possibility that there's a bunch of other 4th gen luchadors.

Dory Funk IV has debuted for his grandfather, Dory Jr's training school promotion. Although billed as a 4th generation talent. Although there's no records of Dory III wrestling. 

I swear I read somewhere that there's some 4th gen guys in India. But I don't follow Indian pro-wrestling. 


That's why I was very careful to say she was the 1st 4th generation talent in WWE. I knew there had to be other in professional wrestling as a whole; but I'm not gonna pretend to have known all you posted. Some of the examples you mentioned I knew and some I didn't. 

Also, good interview video, Rico. That already shows the attention she is getting. 

I will say that it's a shame she signed just a few days after Rocky Johnson passed away. It would have been nice for Rocky Sr. to have seen his granddaughter take her first WWE steps while living. 

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