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The following was sent in by TMZ regarding Ronda Rousey reportedly joining WWE...

Ronda Rousey and the WWE have been circling each other for months ... but sources close to both sides tell TMZ Sports Ronda has NOT put pen to paper -- not yet, at least.

It's no secret that there's serious interest -- Rousey's teased the move and even appeared in a backstage WWE promo ... and company honchos Triple H and Stephanie McMahon have both gone on record saying they'd love to have her.

But, multiple independent sources from all sides of the deal have told us contract talks have NOT gotten off the ground.

As one source bluntly put it, "[Ronda's team] hasn't begun any negotiations with the WWE."

Doesn't mean they won't hit the negotiation table in the future ... but as far as what's cookin' right now -- no deal.

FYI, we're told Rousey is still working out hard (unclear if she's doing specific wrestling training). She's also shooting for her role in Mark Wahlberg's movie, "Mile 22."

Busy lady.

I'm hoping still that she stays busy with movies and doesn't have time to wrestle.
 
Not a fan of part timers coming in to make the full time roster look shit.
 
Especially when she's only trying to get involved because her MMA career is dead.
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She'll make for great storylines and elevate the women's division. It's not a giant loss if she doesn't sign, but she will, she wouldn't go to all this trouble to train with Brian Kendrick and Natalya Neidhart just for shits and giggles.
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Quote UPDATE: As noted earlier today, there are rumors that Ronda Rousey will be a participant in the all-women’s WWE Royal Rumble match in January. If that happens, most believe she will win it all.

It appears as though WWE is building towards an Asuka vs. Ronda Rousey WWE women’s title match at WrestleMania 34 in New Orleans, LA, as Asuka is now using the armbar as her finisher. Of course, the title match would happen when/if Rousey wins the Royal Rumble and Asuka wins the WWE women’s title from Alexa Bliss.

Previous plans for WrestleMania 34 had Ronda Rousey facing Stephanie McMahon or Charlotte, but with the company building up and protecting Asuka, she appears to be the frontrunner to face Rousey. Of course, they could do a tag-team match to get Charlotte and Stephanie McMahon involved as well but that remains to be seen.

As of this writing, representatives for both WWE and Rousey deny that any deal has been made or even discussed. Rousey continues to train at the WWE Performance Center in Orlando, FL.

ORIGINAL: At the end of last night’s WWE RAW broadcast, WWE announced that the first-ever all women’s Royal Rumble match will take place at the WWE Royal Rumble pay-per-view event in January. According to sources, the impression is that Ronda Rousey will be a “surprise” entrant in the match.

As we’ve been reporting here on eWrestlingNews.com, Rousey has been training at the WWE Performance Center in Orlando, FL, alongside her friend and WWE NXT Superstar Shayna Baszler. The all-women’s WWE Royal Rumble match will feature Superstars from both the RAW and SmackDown! Live brands and the winner will receive a title shot at WrestleMania 34 in New Orleans, LA. There is also speculation that some NXT women’s wrestlers may appear in the Royal Rumble match as well.

Someone past it in MMA with two loses in a row and no match in ages, coming in to beat full time wrestling professionals in wrestling contests pisses all over the current ladies.
 
But then outsiders feel above E and want all the glory if they are to lower themselves to getting involved.
 
Outside of Kevin Federline I can't think of a celebrity brought in just to make the true stars look better.
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I actually love this story because of how bad a botch job they've made of the report.

The entire basis of Rousey vs Asuka is that Asuka is now using an armbar as her finisher. Asuka has always used an armbar as part of her arsenal.

Always.

There is no story so they're putting 2 and 2 together and getting 87.
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http://www.espn.com/wwe/story/_/id/22244988/ronda-rousey-signs-wwe

This went up quick. Glad it did though. Her debut is big news.

The article says she is a full-time wrestler, but I kinda doubt it really means "full-time" by WWE terms. However she is quoted for saying 'this is my life for the next several years." I guess we will have to wait and see what kind of contract she has signed. If this is a multi-year every week of raw and ppv kind of deal this is bigger than I ever imagined from her.

One final thing of note... People want to crap on her because she's from MMA and not a wrestler. She went to Rowdy Roddy Piper himself to ask if she could use the name Rowdy in her MMA fights. She was trained to wrestle by Judo Gene Labell, just like Piper was. When Piper died, she dedicated her win the following night to him.

She has had wrestling as a major part of her life since she was a little kid. She just came up through the ranks and paid her dues in a way different from most.

When I saw her debut tonight, do you know what made me mark out the most? That she is using Roddy Piper's gimmick. It literally brought a tear to my eye to see what I first mistook at Roddy Piper's name on the tron. I loved Rowdy Roddy Piper. That she loves him too means a lot to me regarding my outlook on her as a wrestling fan. In fact, I'm just reading that the jacket she wore was Piper's leather jacket given to her by Colt (Piper's son). That really puts a smile on my face. She might have too much fun talking trash some times but she is pure class.

Every interview I heard of hers has shown that while unconventional, she came up the right way in the wrestling world, respectful, and hard working. Her attitude towards those who came before her is no different than any other wrestler, and unlike any other MMA fighter from Shamrock and Severn, to Barnett and Rampage Jackson.

She has paid her dues, she has made her name, and she is a bigger draw outside the world of wrestling than almost all of the men who are going to be in prominent roles at WrestleMania.

She deserves the AJ Styles treatment for her debut at the Royal Rumble, not scorn.

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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

One final thing of note... People want to crap on her because she's from MMA and not a wrestler. She went to Rowdy Roddy Piper himself to ask if she could use the name Rowdy in her MMA fights. She was trained to wrestle by Judo Gene Labell, just like Piper was. When Piper died, she dedicated her win the following night to him.

She has had wrestling as a major part of her life since she was a little kid. She just came up through the ranks and paid her dues in a way different from most.

She has paid her dues, she has made her name, and she is a bigger draw outside the world of wrestling than almost all of the men who are going to be in prominent roles at WrestleMania.

She deserves the AJ Styles treatment for her debut at the Royal Rumble, not scorn.

As one of the people who was critical of her Rumble appearance in the live chat thread I feel I should respond. I 1000% disagree that she has paid her wrestling dues. I get she is a fan and is respectful of the business, and that she trained under Gene Lebell (it is good to see him get a mention on TUP, former WWA booker in the old Los Angeles territory and legit tough guy.) But I would not say she has paid her dues in the wrestling business at all. 

To me paying one's dues in wrestling means grudging it out in the indies or farm systems to the major federations, and putting in work there for a few years. She's an MMA fighter. MMA is different than professional wrestling; they are similar in some ways but in larger ways different worlds. They are two different sports entirely. It's the same as a football player coming in to wrestling and claiming they've paid their dues in wrestling. Bill Goldberg hadn't paid his wrestling dues in 1997 when he came into WCW, Akebono hadn't paid his pro wrestling dues in 2005 when he fought Big Show despite being an accomplished sumo wrestler, and Ronda hasn't paid her wrestling dues now in 2018. There is no way she should be seen in the same light as A.J. Styles two years ago. 

But I also recognize that that doesn't really matter to what WWE will do with her. I agree she is a draw and will be in a prominent WrestleMania match; just like Lawrence Taylor. I even stated in the WrestleMania thread that WWE is seeking to attract outside fans with her celebrity status. I recognize her as a celebrity; but yes that does mean I see her as an "outsider."  

The only thing that I was saying in the Rumble live chat thread (and WrestleMania thread) was that she has no meaning to me as someone I personally would be interested in seeing in a match. I have no real idea who she is or could be as far as a wrestling competitor goes. Were she to work at least a couple of matches anywhere where I could she what she can do in a pro wrestling ring; then I might have an interest. You may be sold on her as you are indeed an MMA fan. But for me she starts from clean scratch as a rookie.   

Edit: I also note the extreme irony of you using her friendship with Roddy Piper as part of an argument as to how she has paid her wrestling dues knowing Piper's massive issue with Mr. T's involvement in the first Wrestlemania for very reason he was an "outsider." 


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What is the point of putting in all that time in the Indies? To me it is to show you have the drive, the desire to put in the effort, to make a name for yourself, to show you have what it takes to put on a good show, and to show you are dependable and safe.

What has Rousey not done at this point? Only the final point in the list. That is literally all there is, everything else does in fact translate from the world of MMA directly across to wrestling, and that's not a matter of opinion, it is axiomatic.

She DOES need to show she can be a safe worker, and she will be protected in that aspect for a while. But all accounts are that this is a legit full time contract for more than just a few years. That kind of commitment is awesome. And during that time the only missing piece to the puzzle will snap into place.

Being trained to WRESTLE by Judo Gene LaBell IS paying your dues. She has cut great promos in the past to hype her matches. She has been an actor in A list, big budget action movies. She has posted matches she and Shayna Baszler have had together and for amateur backyard style matches they show she is pretty good.

She has proven herself on nearly everything. WWE style wrestling is the only thing she hasn't done. And this isn't coming from me being an MMA fan, but rather just a fan of hers and I'm only a fan of hers because she has her head on straight, at least most of the time, and knows her stuff far better than she is usually given credit for.

Again winning over Piper is a big deal. You know how much he hated working with Mr. T. Right? If she wasn't a true lover of all things wrestling she wouldn't have been so close to him and his family to have been given his jacket by his son for her debut. It's not ironic, it is causitive. Piper would have LOVED this.


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The way I see it she doesn't need to pay her dues she is a great fighter she is clearly polished in wrestling, the only thing I want to see is if she is doing a proper full time schedule or if she will be a part timer, I don't expect her to do house shows but I do expect to see her on Raw or smackdown and without a mouth piece at least for now to see how she goes in terms of mic work. 


She will give the women's division an extra boost especially smackdown who will need a top face for when Charlotte eventually goes back to being a heel. 


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This is different to someone like Goldberg or Big Show who were plucked off the street or out of a gym because they looked the part and were then thrust straight into a top spot, Rousey has paid her dues, she didn't grind it out on the indies but she has some wrestling experience and is a dedicated lifelong fan, she chose the path of MMA instead and expanded into movies so she's put in the graft, its smart of WWE to bring her in straight in to a top spot and capitalise on her celebrity.

I'm sure Ronda will train like a machine at the performance centre to get ready. It's dumb to say things like she should have worked the Indies or she should have gone to NXT, that's just a complete waste of her name value and box office appeal and Ronda more than likely wouldn't agree to it anyway.

Will be interesting to see what kind of schedule she works, I personally expected her to do a Lesnar style special attraction arrangement but rumours are saying she might be in fulltime. In a way I think she is best used on a limited dates deal to keep her value high, at least only have her fight on PPV.

I'm excited to see her in WWE and seems the plan is for her to face one of the champions at Wrestlemania, very interested to see how that pans out.

Also I'm completely with Rico about the Rowdy Roddy Piper tribute, really nice touch and a great bit of nostalgia. I was thinking at the time that jacket is miles too big for her but now it all makes sense.
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