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I felt the whole segment subtlety suggested a heel turn by Reigns, his promo work was very heelish and was making excuses for his loss blaming Vince, I also wonder if this whole rumour of a backstabs rift between the McMahons and Lesnar is part of this so a double-turn can take place.

They need to turn Roman, nothing is working to get him the desired reaction and the boos and chants I would say are far more vicious than anything Cena ever received, Cena also had the ability to turn the reaction into something he used for his character and within his promos, not sure Reigns can pull that off he looks visibly pissed off by the reactions he gets at times. Also unlike Cena I’m not sure Roman is shifting lorry loads of merchandise which justify keeping him as the top
face even though he getting more boos than cheers.
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I think Meltzer's getting played there to be honest. What Meltzer reports is essentially the new kayfabe.

If you turn Roman heel he'll be the worst heel of all time because people will cheer him. Abject failure. Roman Reigns will never get the reaction that his booking merits, ever again.

That said, I didn't see many empty seats during that main event, did you?
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Quote Michael Cole welcomes us to the Bell Center, and Roman Reigns immediately comes out and heads to the ring. As Reigns steps in the ring, Michael Cole shows us a message from a WWE referee who claims he made the wrong call in declaring Brock Lesnar the winner at Royal Rumble. Reigns gets on the mic and points out the referee's error. Reigns pauses for a "Roman sucks" chant from the crowd, then says he should be the Universal Champion right now. Reigns says Lesnar is gone now, so he's going to turn his attention to another man, the man he will face at Backlash. Samoa Joe then appears on the big screen and gets a pop from the Montreal crowd. Joe says he's going to put Roman's downward spiraling career to sleep on Sunday. Jinder Mahal's music hits to interrupt. Jinder and Sunil Singh comes out to the stage and starts talking trash to Reigns. Reigns says Jeff Hardy cheated him too, but you don't hear Jinder complaining. Jinder thinks Reigns lost fair and square to Lesnar, and on Sunday he will lose to Joe. Jinder then speaks in his language to his people,
 
As expected Roman despite being chief babyface was given the biggest and loudest boos of the night and treated like an heel by the crowd LOL
 
So much of his promo was heelish as he was whinging, which even whingy heel Jinder was right to bring up.
 
If he's staying babyface he should have said the ref made a mistake, I don't hold it against him and I just want another fair title shot. Instead he moaned about how he should be champion.
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WWE are trying and hve tried so hard to get Reigns over as a face and you can see right through it

First there was the whole, I show up Brock doesnt - ssme tactic Cena used on The Rock and now hes going the whole The Company have screwed me route similar to what Daniel Bryan took and nothing is working.

I've seen a few people say hes due to turn Heel soon and i honestly think thats the only way this will work - he was mega popular when he was in The Shield and that seems to be the only way the crowd will cheer him.
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Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

WWE are trying and hve tried so hard to get Reigns over as a face and you can see right through it

First there was the whole, I show up Brock doesnt - ssme tactic Cena used on The Rock and now hes going the whole The Company have screwed me route similar to what Daniel Bryan took and nothing is working.

I've seen a few people say hes due to turn Heel soon and i honestly think thats the only way this will work - he was mega popular when he was in The Shield and that seems to be the only way the crowd will cheer him.


I don’t think he’s turning heel. Vince is too stubborn and will persist with his different tactics to try and get Roman more cheers, the latest now seems to be let’s put him in a feud with a heel heat magnet(Jinder).

Nothing will work, people will still boo but they will still push Roman as the top face. Vince just won’t it fan reaction dictate how he books his hand-picked top stars.
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Quote Roman Reigns is backstage for an interview. Reigns tells Mike Rome that he's pissed off and he's going to go take control of his yard. Reigns says he will mow down anyone in his way of getting back what's his: The WWE Universal Title.
 
Moaning about not holding the title still is very heelish when Saudi Arabia was over a week ago.
 
He's the number one babyface. He should have won the title by pin or submission. That's how the top babyface is suppose to win.
 
That he's moaning about who's feet hit the floor first, you would expect that kind of thing from a heel like Miz.
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I`m not sure at this point how WWE can get fans cheering for Roman. Whoever they try to push, the fans instantly turn on them. NWO made is cool to cheer for the bad guys and boo then good guys , ever since the sport has been changed on who is booed and cheered.
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Roman Reigns made his entrance and was booed. He was introduced by ring announcer JoJo. The broadcast team recapped Jinder Mahal interfering in Roman’s match last week. Roman looked around the building and smirked as the boos continued. Graves said it was a typical United Kingdom reception for Reigns.

Reigns said he was robbed in his match against Brock Lesnar and now he was robbed by Mahal. Reigns told Mahal that if he wants to be more relevant than he’s ever been in his career then he should come out and face him like a man. Reigns dropped the mic.

Raw general manager Kurt Angle made his entrance led the “you suck” chants. Once in the ring, Angle said Mahal would not be coming out. Angle said he was wrong to deny Mahal the Money in the Bank qualifying match. Angle made it clear that he was reciting a speech given to him by Stephanie McMahon by pausing and saying, “That’s what’s best for business.”

Angle said Mahal will face Bobby Lashley and Elias in a MITB qualifier. Reigns asked to be in the match. Reigns said WWE management made it clear that Reigns won’t be given another shot. Angle said it sucks and he won’t blame Reigns if he’s upset with him. Reigns said Angle is just doing what he has to do, then added that now he’s going to do what he needs to do. Reigns left the ring and walked to the back as the fans sang the “na na na goodbye” song.

The cameras followed Reigns backstage where he found Mahal and Sunil Singh. Mahal attacked Reigns and ran him into the wall and put the boots to him and then threw a trash container at him. Reigns came back by whipping Mahal into the wall and a catering table. Reigns worked over Mahal and then rolled a crate at him.

Mahal went to the side of the Raw stage in front of the crowd and Reigns followed him onto the stage. Reigns delivered a Superman Punch and the boos continued. Angle, Adam Pearce, Jamie Noble, and two referees came out to calm down Reigns, allowing Mahal to flea. Roman’s music played and there were more boos…

Creative are idiots for having Reigns make out he's a Daniel Bryan underdog type, that management are against, when he's the furthest superstar away from pulling off that recycled storyline.
 
He lost at Wrestlemania clean, got another title shot he didn't earn and lost in Saudi Arabia, then off the back of his poor big show record this year still got to main event Backlash over an actual title match.
 
That idiot Graves said it was the usual London response. That response he got, he gets worldwide it's not exclusive to England.
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Put the strap on him. Roman at least is here week in and week out. Time for a new Reign to happen
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Quote During a recent appearance on “Busted Open Radio”, Jim Cornette commented on WWE’s booking and problems with Roman Reigns. He also revealed his idea on how the company could get Reigns over with fans. You can check out some highlights and listen to the interview below:

On the fan criticism of Roman Reigns: “It’s a situation that has never been arisen before in the pro wrestling industry because think about it, this is the first time that a guy that has been rejected by the fans, not because of his lack of ability, but because the people know that the ‘evil empire’ wants him to be the guy over the guy that they really want to be the guy, or in some cases a few guys they want to be the guy. They have revolted against the establishment, against management, by, defecating all over anything that they try to do with this poor guy because they feel like they are getting back at the company for not featuring their favorites, most notably, Daniel Bryan. In that case, the reason why this has never happened before, now they realize that every promotion in history until Mr. McMahon became one of the greatest characters in the history of television, but every promoter wanted to be the babyface because they didn’t want the fans to be mad at the company. To think about this logically, why am I going to buy a ticket and buy merchandise at a company that I am mad at? It is such bizarro world. Talk about United States and Canada being bizarro world, this is bizarro world situation. Vince McMahon was good enough to pull it off. He had ‘Stone Cold’ Steve Austin, they were the ultimate ‘take this job and shove it’ versus the establishment program. It can never been repeated no matter how often people try, but after 20 years, a whole generation have grown up to believe that management is trying to hold my favorite wrestler down, yes they root for those wrestlers, but if the root of it that it is going to bubble at the surface, so, no, we are just going to say f**k you, we like these guys. It has manifested itself to Roman Reigns. Since there has never been anything like this, it just seems to me that battling against the tide because it is what you want to do, and yes, I am sure all the kiddies love Roman Reigns and all the fans in little Des Moines, Iowa, but the base audience that pays the most money per capita, and is involved the most with the internet and with programming is going to do this thing until they get tired of it, but they haven’t gotten tired of it so far because it hasn’t changed anything.”

On what he would do to get WWE fans behind Roman Reigns: “I would somehow – because Daniel Bryan was the root of it, and we can go back to WrestleMania 30 in New Orleans, LA. If he is the root of it I would somehow try to get him involved in it. I would try and get those two guys together. I have talked about this on my podcast before, in some way, get those guys together in terms of an interview, or a tag team match, or Roman Reigns bails out Bryan in a situation, where then Roman Reigns can turn around and sodomize Daniel Bryan, and do something to him. Then, unleash it. In the 2018 version of ‘Die Rocky Die,’ just unleash it. I was born to this. I was going to have all of this, but it was because of you, just unleash it. At the same time, he doesn’t have to be a heel, heel, just a ‘don’t trust anybody,’ type heel turn where he just doesn’t trust anybody. That got over before, didn’t it? Then, when Stephanie McMahon comes out to congratulate him to see the light, he can then cuss her out and anybody named ‘McMahon.’ The point is, he can not like anybody. Feed him some underneath babyfaces that he can sodomize, heels too. I wouldn’t have him lay Stephanie McMahon out right away, but he can do it where he doesn’t like management, or fans, but just let this guy be this anti-everybody, and let the writers be away from him, just let him write his own material. Put every emphasis into him being against everything and everybody as you have tried to make him this smiley, ice cream bar guy, and see what it can do. Just give him a chance. If it generates heat, it’s the right reaction, but if he gets go away heat, then he can get that type of heat, but after all, how can I miss you if you won’t go away? Just give him a chance to be different. Eventually, the dirtier he gets, the more they are going to like him and respect him a bit. There must be blood.”

On past promotions not having the luxury of patience that WWE has had with Roman Reigns: “I grew up watching Memphis Wrestling, they had a two week plan, sometimes the first week depending on the match. You had to in those days. Gates were the lifeblood of the business. If you didn’t draw you didn’t stay in business. If they didn’t anywhere near that long, because nobody had the budget to do something for five years whether it was working or not.”

On the death true babyfaces and heels in pro wrestling: “It’s cool now to disrespect him and boo him. Here is what we have lost also; we have lost the ability to blame the heel for unsavory things on television instead of the promotion, but we have also lost the ability for the babyface to be so beloved because he did those things to become beloved. Unless you come up with another Mick Foley, who is just so likeable as he comes off the screen, the babyfaces don’t get over as strong, or the heels as much heat in the environment where they are told it is sports entertainment. Anything that is done to get somebody over then is looked at as the base audience that they are trying to get this guy over, not, hey, this guy deserves to be over. Even with Steve Austin, of course it was 20 years ago, a lot of horses have left the barn since then, but they were able to suspend disbelief because Austin was so real to them. He was so perfect. Say what you want about pro wrestling, but nobody is going to tell him what to do. He is our guy.”

If they had turned him when they should have, by now they could probably have been ready to turn him back babyface, where he would have been over at last.
 
Fans want him as a cool heel. But when he turned on a heel to go back to face, he would get a big crowd pop.
 
Then the job of creative would be to make sure it stays that way and he doesn't go back to being a booed face.
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