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    Posted: 13/January/2011 at 05:41
Quote ** Ring of Honor has announced the non-renewal of their 2-year contract with HDNet. Their final TV tapings will take place on January 21st and 22nd at the ECW Arena in Philadelphia, PA. The tapings will take the program through to its final episode on April 4th. Tickets for the taping are available at ROHStore.com.

** ROH owner Cary Silkin had to following to say about the news:

"We appreciate our time with HDNet. As a regular TV show, they were the first ones to give us an opportunity. They made us look like a million bucks. Their production was fantastic. The good news is that they're open to working with us to do a live special, hopefully in this year […] I think one thing HDNet did give us was the platform that we're a real company, a real wrestling company. We needed to be legitimized a little. They gave us two years of national exposure so it gives you a little backbone going into this."

Silken also says the break from TV tapings will allow ROH to run more house shows and iPPVs as they search for a new broadcaster. Click here for the full article, courtesy of AOL Fanhouse.
 
Man what a blow to ROH, I wonder if we are going to have a Talent Exodus to TNA.



Edited by JohnKy75 - 13/January/2011 at 19:13
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I wish they'd make a pitch to Spike TV but Spike TV has TNA.  I'd rather watch ROH given a choice as long as it's not on Monday nights.  
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I hope they try to get a deal with a network that I get. Not some special package for HD, of which I do not even have. LoL.
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ROH better work round the clock to get a new TV deal by the time the last ROH episode airs on HDNet because if they dont their current talent may jump ship to wwe or TNA.
 
ECW DIED because they couldnt get on another network and ROH may follow that same path too. (I hope not but it could happen)
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TNA could go the route of buying ROH and cross promoting as WWE did ECW before it turned ECW into the sy fy channel crap. I dont think any of the top guys in ROH would make in WWE as far as what WWE's criteria is for a star, great talker and doesnt matter if you can perform in the ring (Miz, Cena somewhat) KOW, would be the only ones that come to mind but they would split them up and bury one of them in less than six months.
I wonder since ESPN classic likes to show old AWA, why doesnt ESPN pick up ROH since its a show thats more about the sport than it is the promos. This would be good for ROH and not bad for ESPN, and I think ESPN could make a good production of it.
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ESPN doesn't want to associated with wrestling that's why.  But JohnKy is thinking on the right track.  I won't be surprised if Fox SportsNet doesn't atleast end up talking to RoH.  The problem with FSN would be the exact same one that TNA had with them... consent pre-empting for "local" events.
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I'd just like to add, this isn't as bad as when ECW lost their deal with TNN.  TNN was a basic cable channel.  They were available in most markets as part of any bottom tier cable subscription.  For anyone that doesn't know TNN eventually became Spike TV.
 
RoH is/was on HDNet.  HDNet isn't a standard basic cable tier channel.  To get HDNet you usually had to subscribe to a higher level HD premium package.  But with more cable and satellite providers dropping their fees for HD programming.... HDNet is quickly turning into a dinosaur.
 
The real problem in the US is that none of the cable channels want to air wrestling.  They simply don't want to touch the product right now due to the numerous contraversies that have popped up over the last few years.  Let's think about who is showing wrestling right now... I'll limit myself to US broadcasters as those would be the channels I'm most familiar with.
 
USA Network is home of Raw.  USA has shown WWF/E for years.  As much as they love the ratings vs cost ratio, they don't want to add any additional wrestling themed programming due to fear of being seen as the "wrestling channel." 
 
Syfy has SmackDown.  Syfy is USA's corporate sibling, both channels are under the NBC-Universal cable banner.  Syfy struggled with both ECW and NXT programs.  The shows generated great ratings in the male 18-34 demo, but not in the total viewers demo.  SmackDown generates some the channels best ratings, and is actually cheaper to produce that many of their other series.
 
Spike TV has TNA.  During their TNN days, the channel carried the original ECW and WWF.  They've known for a long while that wrestling can generate reliably steady numbers. 
 
GalaVision has AAA lucha libre.  Granted the US broadcast is delayed about 6 weeks.  In certain markets Gala is only available as part of a Spanish programming package.
 
ESPN Classic still shows AWA from 1986-1990.  In their early days, ESPN wasn't as aloof towards wrestling.  The channel aired AWA, UWF, WCCW, and GWF at various points.  ESPN Classic is also regularly rumored to be the channel that ESPN has considered shutting down or selling.
 
America One has both Wrestlicious and WFX.  Unfortunately America One is mostly a patch-work collection of low power stations and digital sub-stations.  America One has affiliates across the nation, but not in every major market. 
 
Tuff TV airs AWWL and other "legend" format shows.  Tuff TV is similar to America One, but smaller. They are in even fewer markets, and aren't a true national broadcaster.
 
There's also still some syndicated local market wrestling.  Various NWA affiliates and significant indy promotions still have deals in place with local stations to air their tapings.  WWE's developmental FCW has local TV deal in place, but their programming isn't carried outside of Florida.  Pro Wrestling Ohio has a deal with a local "sports net" to carry their programming thru the state.
 
I know my current cable line-up has something like 220+ channels.  And I have only 4 that carry any sort of wrestling.  I can rule out several (religious programming, children's programming, cooking themed, etc.) but there are still channels there that I have to imagine should be interested in having a realistic-looking wrestling program like Ring of Honor. 
 
The first channel I think that Ring of Honor should talk to is Versus. 

Versus is a sports-oriented channel that targets young males.  The channel often competes for the exact same demographic as Spike TV.  The channel has gone in a more "extreme sports" direction than ESPN.
 
The channel is heading for some serious flux in their programming.  This year their contracts with UFL and NHL expire. (ESPN is said to be very interested in poaching the NHL deal.)  Worst yet for the channel, WEC will be merged with UFC.  While part of that merger gives Versus 4 UFC "live events" it won't completely replace all of the lost WEC programming. 
 
In short, Versus is needing to add some new original programming to their schedule.  So maybe it's time for them to take a page out of Spike's gameplan and add some wrestling to their schedule.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mr Wrestling NO.3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14/January/2011 at 23:42
Yeah this is a big blow for ROH.  The key thing might be if they can keep steady PPV figures, and that will depend on them maybe pushing the product harder than ever.
 
They need to tie some of the their top talent down to contracts also. 
 
The partneship with TNA is not a bad idea, but for starters given the way TNA are going now I can't see it, and also it is too early for ROH to think this way.
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This is fantastic news, with any luck they'll hopefully go bust.

I was right from the start, ROH couldnt draw flies to shit.
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