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Topic: The Jackass Angle
Posted By: John The Baptist
Subject: The Jackass Angle
Date Posted: 08/October/2008 at 13:12
Ive just read that Johnny Knoxville will be on Raw next week in some sort of angle with Great Khali, after he walked out of an interview or something. Seriously, how many times does this storyline have to fail before creative scrap it? Its what, the 3rd time now? I dont think they remember Umaga destroying Steve-O and Chris Pontius, only for Steve-O to burst out laughing when he was supposed to be KO'd. WWE dont seem to realise that these punks are out for themselves, and them breaking kayfabe would be good footage for their own show. They could no-sell moves or kick out of pins unscheduled, so it is risky of WWE. I also dont see what WWE are getting out of this. The Jackass crew will likely be the faces in their feud, so will go over the heels. Even for comedy heels like Khali, that is harmful for credibility. I dont see this getting any more mainstream attention than Z lister K-Fed did for WWE, and im baffled by why they keep persisting with this angle.

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Posted By: MariaS
Date Posted: 08/October/2008 at 14:04
I agree with you on this.  I've had the same thoughts you listed about this. 

This is a go no where, accomplish nothing type setting and will take a place on a PPV card that two accomplished wrestlers could be taking.

I've read on several sites that Khali is having major problems with his knees and he may be on his last leg, no pun intended there.  They probably would let him go but they have built such a fanbase in his home country of India that they keep him for that reason.


Posted By: King Razor
Date Posted: 08/October/2008 at 15:03
Yeah just like the commerial for the returning Boogyman all I could say was 'damn not again!'
 
I liked Jackass (liked) but its old news Knoxville is old news. The shows been gone for years, he tried moves and failed and now he is running a cheap ass website called jackass.com or something. So why would wwe want to promote a failed star that what bring in ratings agaist a superstar who most dont like and needs a good wrestler to get him though a match???
 
This cant lead to a Knoxville vs Khali match can it?
 
The only good thing about this was when Khali manager said "the great Khali say's he'll call you" That was funny
 


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Posted By: SKITCOMIC
Date Posted: 08/October/2008 at 16:01
I think it all depends on who they bring into the angle. If it's just Knoxville I don't think  we'd have to worry about any no selling or breaking kayfabe. I think even Bam just might be professional enough to get the job done. Everyone else needs to be left out. Period.


Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 09/October/2008 at 01:44
no way the jackass guys would make awsome wrestlers , not afraid to take a bump for sure.... you could get chair shots where there wasnt a hand in the way , yeah they would do some crazy shit that would make jeff hardy stand back.


Posted By: John The Baptist
Date Posted: 09/October/2008 at 02:08
No doubt, they would do stunts and take weapon shots, but they do crazy shit that belongs in CZW, glassing each other and jumping off houses, stuff like that. It wouldnt go down with the new PG kid friendly objectives. Steve-O is my concern. He was supposed to be rolling around in agony like Party Boy was when they got destroyed by Umaga, but he was laughing! I know 'wrestling is fake' and all, but a 120 pound man no-selling a hiding from a 400 pound monster heel is breaking kayfabe and is disrespectful to the business. I like Jackass and the WWE, but the two shouldnt be mixed IMO. I just hope its Knoxville like SKITCOMIC said, because as an actor, he will probably be schooled on selling moves and he seems the most professional of the group.

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Posted By: Steven Nyte
Date Posted: 10/October/2008 at 20:15
it shouldn´t be anybody... what in hells bells has the jackass crew to do with WWE? They´re just a bunch of friggin ejiots who willingly force their body into dangerous situations! I mean, wwe superstars do that too, but in a controlled environment and wwe wrestlers actually know what they´re doing!

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Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 10/October/2008 at 20:17
no ones ever died doing a stunt for jackass "rip owen"


Posted By: drey7337
Date Posted: 10/October/2008 at 21:33
no one in WWE has shoved a car up there ass, or given themself paper cuts on their mouths. Raab? Steve-O? The Jackass Crew, are just some guys, that basically do the same crazy stuff most every teenager does, just on TV. They have done nothing to desreve WWE TV Time. Give it to someone, who they are trying to build up. Give Swagger a fued on RAW, for 2 months, then let him go back to ECW announcing he is better than anyone on ECW, because he rocked RAW, by producing their highest rated segments in 3-4 years. [most likely he would be lieing, but whatever haha].

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Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 10/October/2008 at 21:42
Originally posted by drey7337 drey7337 wrote:

They have done nothing to desreve WWE TV Time.
hmmm , neither has kahli , maybe thats why there in the segment together... what has vicky gerrero done other than she used to fuck a dead superstar , mike admle , how bout the whole diva section , what a worthless waste of televison time, the wwe is already a big pile of shit , whats wrong with brining asome humor to it , and besides this was something they where going to do a long time ago but another dead superstar and hid murderous rage stopped that from happening when mtv pulled the plug on then idea , jackass doesnt need the wwe , they have their nitch following , im sure it was the wwe who approached them and not the other way around , cant blame knoxville for wanting to make money...


Posted By: drey7337
Date Posted: 10/October/2008 at 22:53
Originally posted by Doc_Pothead Doc_Pothead wrote:

Originally posted by drey7337 drey7337 wrote:

They have done nothing to desreve WWE TV Time.
hmmm , neither has kahli

 what has vicky gerrero done other than she used to fuck a dead superstar

 , mike admle ,

how bout the whole diva section

the wwe is already a big pile of shit

He went to wrestling school. he at the time, was a noticeable face, due to the longest yard.

She is probably the most hated character right now. Major heat attractor. She get's more heat than Bitchoff EVER got. Not because she sucks, but because she's a fantastic heel.

Has been in TV for over 20 years. Several years off acting training, several years of TV exposure. He's been on TV longer than steve-o has been alive!

Natty Neidhart? Mickie James? Candice Michelle [getting better]? Have you EVER seen these women wrestle?

Then don't watch it. From what you've said, I'm starting to think you don't even watch the product.


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Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 10/October/2008 at 23:15
i do watch wrestling , if you think the divas are good wrestlers then i might question if you watch the product , you people act like this is the worst thing that could happen for the wwe , i understand what vicky has accopmlished im not aruging the fact that they are here or not , im saying they never deserved to be there in the first place , , what you need to deal with is the fact that the wwe is going to go through with this wether you like it or not , so get used to it, maybe the wwe is trying to expose some people who never watched wrestling before to wrestling , people who like jackass who havent watched wrestling might end up liking wrestling , therefore in the future these people might by t-shirts and posters making the wwe money , thats the bottom line , money , vince dont give one shit about you or anyone else thinks of his product, uif he did he would be out trying to get new fans...


Posted By: Steven Nyte
Date Posted: 11/October/2008 at 00:31

as for the stuff you directed at me, I´m not blaming the jackass crew for getting on WWE television, I´m blaming WWE for even letting them! as much as Jackass doesn´t need WWE, the WWE doesn´t need jackass either! they need to take some time to build up a good roster and show high quality matches, that´s what they need to do.

and about no one has ever died doing the jackass stunts... well... you got a point there. But also, I think no jackass stunt dummy has ever tried to have himself lowered from an arena ceiling and drop into the ring then... again, RIP Owen, forever missed.


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Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 11/October/2008 at 00:39
Originally posted by Steven Nyte Steven Nyte wrote:

as for the stuff you directed at me, I´m not blaming the jackass crew for getting on WWE television, I´m blaming WWE for even letting them! as much as Jackass doesn´t need WWE, the WWE doesn´t need jackass either! they need to take some time to build up a good roster and show high quality matches, that´s what they need to do..

nobody was saying this at wrestlemania with floyd marryweather , and that was the biggest ppv they have , this is a side show , nobody said shit about cousin sal.
 the wwe will always do stunts and promos, get used to it atleast with this stunt they are reaching out to an audiance that might like their product , unlike boxing fans who absolutly hate pro wrestling and think it's a joke , that's all this is, more fans


Posted By: Steven Nyte
Date Posted: 11/October/2008 at 00:45
I personally didn´t like the Floyd Mayweather and the cousin sal angle neither.
I don´t want to get used to it, just because I can´t change it... I know WWE will most likely continue to do stuff like that...  still, I don´t have to like it....


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Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 11/October/2008 at 00:48
well i for one am fucking thrilled about it , i think the jackass guys are topps , it is sure to be funny no matter how it goes down...


Posted By: Steven Nyte
Date Posted: 11/October/2008 at 00:51
I guess you could call the angle a success then.... I also have nothing against Jackass, some of the stuff is really funny to watch/to do yourself (such as the city gorilla thing, running around town in a full body gorilla suit is great and loads of fun!) I just think that people already say wrestling is fake and stuff and if you include the jackass guys in your angles then, I think that might only lead to more people saying that wrestling is fake...

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Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 11/October/2008 at 00:55
well that dont make sents at all...jackass is real , unlike wrestling...


Posted By: Steven Nyte
Date Posted: 11/October/2008 at 00:58

Yeah of course, but most of the jackass guys are... well.. jackasses... running around, doing shit... and.. of course wrestling is not... all that serious (I don´t like to call the sport I love "fake"), but it still hurts a heck of a lot more to receive a backbreaker or a top rope elbow than to crash a shopping cart into a bush.



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Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 11/October/2008 at 01:07
wrestling isnt fake , to call it fake is to accuse it of being something that it's not , wrestling doesnt try to be a real sport , it is entertainment , years ago vince came out and said this before a monday night raw back in the attitude are , with-in a month that old women gave birth to a hand...there was a day when they tryed to pass it off as real , but thats when they where on espn , they had time keepers and judges and everything else like that , i hate when people say wrestling is fake , when they say that i always say "yeah right , so what you are telling me is there isnt a bunch of friends in upstate newyork that all live in the same apartment who go through funny trials together , you mean joey's zany antics are all acting?" then i act all surprised that "friends" is fake too , then i say "omg everything on tv must be fake...well this changes everything" 


Posted By: John The Baptist
Date Posted: 11/October/2008 at 02:03
Whoa! Did i see at the top of this page a post that said Candice Michelle was IMPROVING? Are you insane? I seriously suggest you watch every Raw match she has been in since her return. As for Mike Adamle? Well even if he had an impressive resume in TV outside of wrestling, his WWE career is a total nightmare. When he was an announcer type-thing, he made many errors, so WWE put him on commentary, which was a disaster (Adamle - "Here comes Kane, by our announce......thing" Tazz - "Its a table, Mike"), and then gets an even bigger push to GM despite failing everything else. Khali just isnt worth TV time. If i have to explain that one, then you must as retarded as him. Vickie is the only one off the list who has done well, and even then she only got the job out of pity.

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Posted By: MariaS
Date Posted: 11/October/2008 at 03:33
I don't care about the use of the Jackass guys.  The only thing I see wrong with it is it takes away from two of the actual wrestlers not being used.  They would like to paid also for doing the work they will be doing long after the Jackass guys are gone.

I didn't like the use of Floyd Mayweather nor the use of Cousin Sal.  Once again, those two spots were taken by people who are no longer there and not given to two of the actual wrestlers that are still there.


Posted By: jello811
Date Posted: 11/October/2008 at 17:07
Well I for one like this storyline.  The interview that started it all could be found here:
 
http://www.jackassworld.com/blog/2008/10/03/one-bourbon-one-scotch-and-one-beer-%E2%80%93-the-great-khali/ - http://www.jackassworld.com/blog/2008/10/03/one-bourbon-one-scotch-and-one-beer-%E2%80%93-the-great-khali/
 
While you are at it, become a memberBig%20smile.  But really, check out this website as they have a lot of new stuff, even about the Great Khali.


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Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 12/October/2008 at 01:47
i like the storyline too and was begining to wonder if i was the only one


Posted By: drey7337
Date Posted: 12/October/2008 at 03:28
At least Mayweather is a very credible athlete, unlike Steve-o.
 
But you know what, all these are, are people's opinions. It hard to change other people's opinions.
 
If you look at Candices very first WWE match, TELL ME she hasn't come a little way? Honestly? Even if you don't, I think she has.


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Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 12/October/2008 at 03:40
doesnt matter how good of a wrestler she is , the division is a waist of time...i dont even know any female wrestling fans whos' favorite wrester is a diva...


Posted By: drey7337
Date Posted: 12/October/2008 at 05:02
Originally posted by Doc_Pothead Doc_Pothead wrote:

doesnt matter how good of a wrestler she is , the division is a waist of time...i dont even know any female wrestling fans whos' favorite wrester is a diva...

Well, I do. Vince wouldn't care if he read this. You know why? because, having "Divas" on his show, particulary appeal to the 10-23 yr olds, and little girls. Simple as that.


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Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 12/October/2008 at 05:24
well...i dont , look at the crowd on tv when there is a diva match , and if all we care about is demographics that would make this jackass storyline a smart thing to do...demographicly speaking that is


Posted By: MariaS
Date Posted: 12/October/2008 at 06:22
another problem with the Jackass angle is they are trying to head this stuff more towards the demographic of kids.  Kids today don't know who the Jackass guys are.  If the audience had a lot of teenagers, they would know who they are but small children don't and they won't be interested in this.  


Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 12/October/2008 at 06:37
good , does everything in wrestling have to be for the little kids , if so im going to stop watching


Posted By: drey7337
Date Posted: 12/October/2008 at 14:05
Originally posted by Doc_Pothead Doc_Pothead wrote:

good , does everything in wrestling have to be for the little kids , if so im going to stop watching


Thats just the demo they are trying to reach Doc, why be so difficult?


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Posted By: Steven Nyte
Date Posted: 13/October/2008 at 04:54
just a quick side note at the diva´s discussion and stuff... I know not only one but a few people who have female fav wrestlers, mostly it´s either Natalya, Victoria or Beth, as far as wwe is concerned. Most of them, as well as me, do agree though that TNA´s Knockout division is far more attractive, wrestling wise, than the WWE´s two girls divisions, namely the divas and the womens division...

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Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 13/October/2008 at 17:21

the wwe souldnt be targeting any child under 14 or has their tv rating droped to just pg now? cause last i knew it was tv-14....



Posted By: King Razor
Date Posted: 13/October/2008 at 17:24
On Smackdown they said they were the higest rated show for peopel aged 4-17 that just made me want to turn off. I can't watch the same program as a four year old!!! Well not unless my niece is here!!!
 
How can wrestling be suitable for a 4 year old seriously I agree with Doc WWE or wrestling should be for 14 and above


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 14/October/2008 at 15:21

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/raw/2008/october8-14/8334308?zone=raw_videos - http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/raw/2008/october8-14/8334308?zone=raw_videos

* I believe that's now the end of the storyline, which was only a pointless one to do short term.

* I've gotta hand it to Johnny for taking a pretty decent beating. He's famous for them so probably proud of himself lol.

* I didn't need to see two replusive looking dudes strip down and dance as they did.

* What's the point of trailers for the return of Boogeyman on ECW, if he's going to return before his return? Horrible booking.



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Posted By: Steven Nyte
Date Posted: 14/October/2008 at 16:04
Yup that kinda wraps it up, except Knoxville would come back with some remarks on Khali´s wee wee again and on how it was a fluke he got beaten like that and stuff.. I hope he doesn´t
 
He really sold the moves well, for a non wrestler I mean. Well he at least sold them better than Steve-O....
 
What was the whole point of bringing Big Dick Johnson out there? he didn´t have anything to do with the whole angle, I mean I could´ve understood why Pontius was there, being Knoxvilles buddy and fellow jackass member he could´ve been there for emotional support or sthn... but BDJ???
 
Boogeyman... didn´t he take the time off to get his missing teeth replaced? well.. guess not, from what it looked like... same old shit.
 
I loved the line where knoxville called beth and santino "dudes"...


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Posted By: King Razor
Date Posted: 14/October/2008 at 16:17
Well if you watched Jackass you will know that was Chris's gimmick he was party boy and danced like that.
 
However it was stupid the whole angle. Beth's slam was terrible I know she's a girl but if she thinks she can do these things she needs to do better than that!
 
Hornswoggle turning up just because Johnny made a crap joke about midgets!?! Boogyman returning before his return like Admin said and then completley missing Chris's mouth with the worms
 
Keep these guys away from the WWE I liked them but there old news guys trying to grasps hold of the fame they once had. Your 15 minutes are over boys deal with it!
 
And thats the truth!


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Posted By: Steven Nyte
Date Posted: 14/October/2008 at 16:20
Yeah I know Chris was Party Boy, among others like bunny the lifeguard or shit like that. but the party boy stuff was more fun when he put on a cd player in an electronics store and started dancing to the clerk or shit like that whit nobody expecting it. Honestly, as soon as I saw Pontius in there I first thought: Damn, Steve-O is here too and when BDJ came out I thought: Damn, Party Boy. ruined.

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Posted By: King Razor
Date Posted: 14/October/2008 at 16:25
The only thing I thought was funny was they were introduced as the Jackass boys but he only mentioned Chris and Johnny. Jeff Trumain (the director of jackass) was stood right next to them. Todd didn't acknolwedge him once and even turned his back on him. He stood up when he said Jackass boys and then just looked a spare part thoughout the whole interview

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Posted By: Doc_Pothead
Date Posted: 14/October/2008 at 18:34
beth dropped him..lolwhat a stupid bitch!


Posted By: Steven Nyte
Date Posted: 14/October/2008 at 18:38
yeah ... perhaps she expected him to know how he has to react when taken up for a scoop slam? Well he did not, obviously as he totally was dead weight in her arms... as was to be expected... I´d have dropped him with a suplex, easy to instruct him what he has to do...

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Posted By: CenaFan4Ever
Date Posted: 14/October/2008 at 19:12

I don’t see how having them on Raw is helping Raw, considering that not everyone knows who they are. This is going to be a wasted storyline. Is this all that they can come up with Khali, since he can’t wrestle? Seriously they need to give Khali something better then this. It almost seems as if WWE is doing this to show that he can wrestle or WWE is trying to prove to us that Khali can wrestler even though it’s not proving anything.. lol



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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 14/October/2008 at 21:08

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/raw/2008/october1-7/8269672?zone=raw_videos - http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/raw/2008/october1-7/8269672?zone=raw_videos

* Although I didn't want to see Knoxville in a storyline, he played his part of taking a beating and acting professionally well.

* The times he spoke, he spoke well. Although he did come across as pretty dumb with taking the piss to Khali's face more than once.

* When Singh said Khali would show Knoxville entertainment, I didn't expect it to involve all the misfits of the WWE.

* I've liked the more entertaining Khali of recent weeks (as said in the babyface Khali thread) and hope he doesn't return to the same old guy he was a month ago.



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Posted By: BshadowB
Date Posted: 15/October/2008 at 00:06
This was one of the better shows in a while, i found it quite funny actually and wouldn't mind him returning to face the great kali maybe.

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Posted By: SKITCOMIC
Date Posted: 15/October/2008 at 21:38
Johnny Knoxville did his part very well. Yeah, that whole thing with Beth Pheonix was a little groan worthy, but in the end he sold the spots very well and proved to be much more professional than those other two JackAssclowns from before.



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