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Topic: Aleister Black On Raw
Posted By: admin
Subject: Aleister Black On Raw
Date Posted: 23/October/2019 at 11:19
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It didn't help with him being off screen for months, but I don't get yet why he's so popular.

He came in doing dull promos talking nonsense, did some tag team matches, got injured, came back to do some more dull promos and now is beating a nobody jobber.

For the amount of weeks he's been on Raw he's still to be given any fued at all to get in to.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 23/October/2019 at 17:48
I really like him, his gimmick is very dark and mysterious and I love his shoot fighter style in the ring.


I also like that are holding back with him in his booking, keeping him as more of a special attraction allowing his popularity to grow organically and just having him go over low card talent and enhancement guys.

Eventually they can really pull the trigger on him and have him go into a major feud or challenge for a title, but not before he is ready the slow burn approach is working.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 26/October/2019 at 13:37
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

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It didn't help with him being off screen for months, but I don't get yet why he's so popular.


Because he was awesome in NXT.

He has a dark gimmick which appeals to alot of people but he just isnt being used right for me.

They clearly have nothing for him so they should have kept him off TV and brought him back when they had something meaningful for him to do 


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 10/December/2019 at 12:29
I don't hate how he's being used but it could definitely be better.

Luckily when he's in the ring his very cool dark character and ring skills shine through.

I'm looking forward to his match with Murphy which has the potential to be match of the night at TLC if given enough time.

I still think Aleister Black is a headliner in the making, he just needs some more high profile feuds, they seem to be going a slow burn route with him.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 11/February/2020 at 20:34
I'm going to make a prediction, perhaps a bold one at this moment

I think Black will be in the main event of next years Wrestlemania ...

WWE are now starting to build up his dark, broody, eery character that became so popular in NXT. His promos the past few weeks have been really good - the spot where he sits and the lighting changes to reflect the increased intensity in his voice is a cool touch.

Black is awesome in the ring and he has the look - the look of someone that could sell as a champion, the dark - everyone says it - Undertaker sort of gimmick and if he is built right - he could be a huge star in the WWE and i really hope they do - i was a HUGE fan of him in NXT and marked out bad when he won the title and i would love for him to do the same now on Raw.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 15/February/2020 at 12:19
Aleister Black is a great character I've enjoyed his dark and broody promos too. 

I think Raw is in good shape with McIntyre and Black as the top faces of the brand, as much as I'd love to see Black switch to Smackdown and feud with The Fiend I just don't have confidence in Bruce Prichard to book Black right, I think a lot of what we see him do on Raw is from the mind of Heyman, SD is very much a Vince show. 

It does seem that they are building to something big with Black at the moment, will be interesting to see what it is.


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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 17/February/2020 at 10:20
October 26, 2019

Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

They clearly have nothing for him so they should have kept him off TV

February 11, 2020

Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

I'm going to make a prediction, perhaps a bold one at this moment

I think Black will be in the main event of next years Wrestlemania ...







 




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Posted By: thundarr2000
Date Posted: 17/February/2020 at 15:23
If WWE were able to stick to their claim that the US Championship was a "fighting championship". Then Aleister Black would be a great US Champion. He would shine under the gimmick of defending his title every week against a different opponent. 

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 18/February/2020 at 19:10
Originally posted by Kondor Kondor wrote:

October 26, 2019

Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

They clearly have nothing for him so they should have kept him off TV

February 11, 2020

Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

I'm going to make a prediction, perhaps a bold one at this moment

I think Black will be in the main event of next years Wrestlemania ...







 



Its been 4 months and he has gone from doing nothing to now making notable promos and looking great in the matches

Again this week he went up against someone WWE seemed keen to build up with regards to Rowan and that daft cage of his and Aleister made him fade to black

2020 is his year 

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You can believe that!!


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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 20/February/2020 at 05:45
Honestly i wouldnt be suprised if he took on seth Rollins at mania 

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 26/February/2020 at 18:07
I enjoyed the story they told with Black this week, my only slight moan is that he should have taken more of a beating to sell it the way he did. 

But it was well booked showing Black not at 100% have to dig deep to scrape a win over Erik Rowan, it was a well fought match and there were times I thought Black was going to lose clean to Rowan. This sets a dream match for next week between Black and AJ Styles. 

I did wonder if there may be a angle at Super Showdown with Black and Styles but if I remember right Black isn't allowed to appear at Saudi shows due to issues with some of his tattoos. 

I also liked the way Black just cut the crap with his promo at the end saying how fans may find his talk too cryptic, I think this is a smart route as while I do like his mysterious character and dark promos I do find sometimes he just rambles off stuff that is hard to make any kind of sense out of, I would like him to get a bit more aggressive and straight talking with his promos like he did this week.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 22/April/2020 at 12:33
 

Good match. Black impressive as ever and Theory proving he's a good prospect for the future. 

It's clear that they are high on Aleister Black and these clear decisive wins he's getting each week are doing a good job of establishing him with a slow burn approach. I like his dark short and sweet promos too, I don't think he should ever say too much his character is better suited to be mysterious and to only speak when really necessary. 

I can see Black being a top guy within the next year or so, he just needs to keep destroying jobbers then get a few good wins over some bigger names.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 23/April/2020 at 09:11
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

I'm going to make a prediction, perhaps a bold one at this moment

I think Black will be in the main event of next years Wrestlemania ...



I still stand by this but agree with Fletch that they need to move him on to bigger more established names for a decent run of singles feuds

He seems to becoming more and more popular online and I think some of that is due to his marriage to Zelina Vega as she is extremely active and very popular on social media 

That can only be a good thing for him 


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 11/May/2020 at 10:10
I wanted him to win MITB but I'm kind of glad he didn't.....

For me, he doesn't need it now given the way he has been built lately. Go back to when he was first called up and given how poorly he was used then, he would have benefitted more from winning the case then than what he would now.

If he keeps going the way he is then he can be the natural challenger to the other champion that Otis doesn't challenge.


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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 11/May/2020 at 10:29
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

I wanted him to win MITB but I'm kind of glad he didn't.....

For me, he doesn't need it now given the way he has been built lately. Go back to when he was first called up and given how poorly he was used then, he would have benefitted more from winning the case then than what he would now.

If he keeps going the way he is then he can be the natural challenger to the other champion that Otis doesn't challenge.

If you're prediction about a WrestleMania main event for him next year is right than a Rumble win next year is the best way to go. 


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 11/May/2020 at 12:18
I would give McIntyre a long title reign and continue to build Aleister Black as a top guy then have him win the Royal Rumble and challenge Drew at Wrestlemania next year, with good booking and a strong storyline this could almost be a modern day version of Hogan vs The Ultimate Warrior. 

I'm liking the slow burn approach with Black, it's said that Heyman is a big fan of his and WWE seem to view him as a potential headliner with drawing power, that's why I like the show methodical approach to building his character making him heel more of a attraction.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 23/August/2020 at 22:26
I'm wondering if Black is the person behind Retribution?

They are trying to swerve us with people like The Miz but Blacks pre screen break promos were edgy and alot of his social media stuff is too

Just a thought

Maybe they are revealed tonight 


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 29/September/2020 at 06:01
Theyve changed his theme Shocked

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 29/September/2020 at 11:18
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

Theyve changed his theme Shocked
 

It's all to do with WWE getting a new company to produce their music, apparently they weren't happy with the contract they had with the old music supplier and any themes created by them that WWE continue to use sees generous royalties being paid to the old company so that's why they have replaced both Keith Lee and Aleister Black's theme music, chances are it will happen with other talent too.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 30/September/2020 at 13:07

Black can only dream of rocking an eye patch as good as this legend he's got his dress sense off LOL



I still don't get him. I don't hate him but don't see the hype. He just seems a run of the mill talent with midcard written all over him.

It seems dark/mysterious gimmicks continue to be popular but he's no Undertaker, Mankind, Bray Wyatt, although he's better than Papa Shango.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 30/September/2020 at 21:19
I don't like what they're doing with Aleister Black, he had a chance to get over big as the dark and mysterious babyface character but now they've kind of morphed him into some weird heel version of the same gimmick and they've taken everything cool about him away like the entrance and his theme music, although in fairness the new theme was quite similar, its more that his character for me at least doesn't work well as a heel and what is his beef with Kevin Owens anyway? It doesn't really make sense. I thought maybe he might turn out to be the Retribution leader, well I guess there is still time for that to happen but seems unlikely. 

Perhaps he can move to Smackdown in the draft and they can hit the reset button.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 01/October/2020 at 13:00
I quite like what they are doing with him.

I was initially shocked they changed his theme but to be honest, his new edgy sort of psycho character needed a new theme and also a new entrance.

I think this is how to get him over big time as a heel, something which we didnt get to see in NXT or really in his WWE run up to now. He can always revert back to that sort of dark eery face when hes had a good run as a heel.

They look to me like they are building him up to the point in which he snaps and then basically goes on a run destroying everyone and maybe gets into the title picture that way.


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