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Tommaso Ciampa in NXT

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Topic: Tommaso Ciampa in NXT
Posted By: #Heel
Subject: Tommaso Ciampa in NXT
Date Posted: 03/June/2018 at 17:42
Now if every there was the definition of the perfect Heel in WWE, Ciampa is certainly it.

The whole storyline with Gargano prior to TakeOver: New Orleans unsanctioned match was fantastic storytelling and made Gargano come across as the total underdog and the fans were bought in hook, line and sinker - 100% behind Gargano.

Following that match everyone though Ciampa was done and dusted but no - he only went and attacked Gargano prior to his NXT title match with Black and ended up getting him stretchered out of the arena.

He then came out a couple of weeks later taunting and ended up causing Gargano to fall off the ring apron onto Candice.

This has resulted in a Street Fight between the 2.

i'm not sure they can top their previous effort but im more than glad to watch them try - some storylines make you get sick of seeing the same 2 people wrestling each other but such as the way this has been written and delivered - no one can get sick of watching this.

Ciampa with his attitude, cold persona and aggression in the ring makes him for me, the best heel in WWE today


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 03/June/2018 at 19:05
Agree completely about Ciampa. The problem is sooner or later the fans will start to cheer him, and then he loses A LOT, more than most heels would, and I don't know how he'll be able to recover from that. I'm not saying he won't. He might handle it quite well and just keep chugging along like the best heels do, but I don't have a lot of confidence in his longevity at staying over as a heel. I'm guessing he's going to burn out and fade into obscurity. 

Hope I'm wrong though.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 20/June/2018 at 13:26
Around three quarters of a hour of action in the street fight at Takeover, the match didn’t get old, it was hard hitting and realistic with some great storytelling.

Ciampa is the star of this feud, Gargano has a bright future as a Daniel Bryan type sympathetic face who the smarks love, but Ciampa’s heel work here has been top notch, his mannerisms, his ice cold promos, the little details like spitting on Garganos wedding ring and apparently he’s refusing to have merchandise sold to show his distain for the fans. I would go as far to say that Ciampa is currently the best heel in WWE.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 20/June/2018 at 18:16
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:


Ciampa is the star of this feud, 

I would go as far to say that Ciampa is currently the best heel in WWE.

Ciampa is the star of the brand and possibly even the company. 

He is also , in my opinion, in the top 5 heels of all time. Yes thats a HUGE statement but he gets nuclear heat and he does not mind crossing the line. The things he does in matches, his promo style, his mannerisms, the 0 entrance music, the no merch sales, his physique, the beard - just everything about him.  There is nothing you could say needs improving.

Now as strong as the above statement is - that may all change if he gets called up to the main roster. He probably wont be allowed to do the brutal things he does in NXT matches and hell probably not be booked in the same way but currently in his NXT world - he is the greatest heel in current wrestling by a long way.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 20/June/2018 at 18:50
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:


Ciampa is the star of this feud, 

I would go as far to say that Ciampa is currently the best heel in WWE.

Ciampa is the star of the brand and possibly even the company. 

He is also , in my opinion, in the top 5 heels of all time. Yes thats a HUGE statement but he gets nuclear heat and he does not mind crossing the line. The things he does in matches, his promo style, his mannerisms, the 0 entrance music, the no merch sales, his physique, the beard - just everything about him.  There is nothing you could say needs improving.

Now as strong as the above statement is - that may all change if he gets called up to the main roster. He probably wont be allowed to do the brutal things he does in NXT matches and hell probably not be booked in the same way but currently in his NXT world - he is the greatest heel in current wrestling by a long way.



Completely agree, despite his relatively short time in WWE he has got all the heel traits down so well and his heat is off the scale so it’s hard to not rank him in the best heels of all time. I struggle to name a better heel of the last decade, he’s right up there with Edge and Triple H when it comes to his heel work and those two had the advantage of the non-PG era which allowed them to use edgier material and commit more dastardly acts.
What’s great about Ciampa is the guy is a hell of a wrestler too so his heat is the real deal, it’s not go away heat(X-Pac heat), people want to see him they just love to hate him and want to see a babyface beat him.

As you say the problem will be when he goes to the main roster, wrestlers get a lot more freedom in NXT and the product is more realistic and gritty, it’s hard to imagine him being this nasty in the cartoonish environment of Raw and Smackdown and he will probably be watered down which would be a real shame. I really want to see him get a run as NXT champion as that would be tv gold.
As you say they could perhaps put off the rubber match until later in the year meaning there would be time for Ciampa to challenge and defeat Aliester Black at the next Takeover. It would make sense for him to be the number one contender given that his hand was raised against Gargano at Takeover. Gargano could perhaps work a stopgap feud against someone like Adam Cole or Lars Sullivan or ECIII.



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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 01/July/2018 at 11:51
So the seeds were planted this week it's looking like Ciampa and Black will square off for the belt at the next Takeover. Im calling it now Tomasso Ciampa wins and the year ending Takeover will see Ciampa vs Gargano for the title which will be the feud ending match with the title at stake. Looks like they are going to run a angle where Regal will try and keep Gargano and Ciampa apart to allow this story to play out.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 14/July/2018 at 22:58
So in 2005 he was a lawyer on Smackdown for Mohammed Hassan in his battle against Undertaker......

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To be in a segment in front of a live crowd, with a legend likes Undies at just 21 years old is quite the story for him.

He looks so different nowadays, but he obviously was always meant to be a wrestler.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 15/July/2018 at 00:58
What the fuck is all that garbage there, Adders? That's not a URL.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 15/July/2018 at 15:57
Its lazy adminning right there

Ciampa is gold and he is in phenomenal shape to even what he was before he got injured

Wonder if he can keep his edgyness when he moves to the main roster - albeit i highly doubt he can be as sadistic as he is now - would be great if he could keep some edge at least


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 30/July/2018 at 09:23
So Ciampa became the NXT champion on this weeks episode, very good match with Black which got over 20 minutes of air time, recommend watching.

Ciampa is the best heel in wrestling at present and will be a superb champion, the finish to this match sets what I expect to be a triple threat between Black, Gargano and Ciampa at Takeover for the belt. The finish wasn’t clean but Ciampa came out looking strong as he did enough to look like he earned his victory.

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