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Dolph Ziggler & Drew Mcintyre Partnership On Raw

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Topic: Dolph Ziggler & Drew Mcintyre Partnership On Raw
Posted By: admin
Subject: Dolph Ziggler & Drew Mcintyre Partnership On Raw
Date Posted: 17/April/2018 at 11:39
Quote Dolph Ziggler comes out on the stage, and it appears he is now on the RAW roster. Ziggler comes down to the ring and gets on the mic and talks about being back on RAW. Ziggler says he's still the best Superstar to ever walk the aisle, but something changed. Before Ziggler can say what changed, Titus Worldwide comes out to interrupt. Titus welcomes Ziggler back, and he steps in the ring with Apollo and Dana. Titus tries to recruit Ziggler to Titus Worldwide, and he says Ziggler is a multi-talented super star. Ziggler thanks Titus for the offer, but declines. Ziggler says before he got interrupted, he was about to say something changed: he didn't come to RAW alone. Drew McIntyre then runs in and attacks Titus and Crews from behind. Dolph and Drew continue to beat down Crews and Titus. They hit a double-team Zig Zag and Claymore on Crews before leaving.
 
Now this is an interesting pairing. The best part of the whole first night of the shake up.
 
Because of how much they will strengthen the tag team division, I can look past Drew turning heel for no apparent reason and therefore not getting his babyface return from injury pop.
 
I hope they give a good explaination why two guys with no history, all of a sudden are looking out for eachother.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 18/April/2018 at 10:04
I agree this was easily the most interesting move in the shake up.

I liked McIntyre as a edgy babyface in NXT but this heel partnership with Ziggler is interesting, both men are loaded with personality and in ring talent so this could work and I’m very interested to see where it goes.

At the very least they would be a very good tag team but I would rather see them in singles matches.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 18/April/2018 at 18:29
I was super surprised with this one

Was still annoyed they havent fixed Zigglers entrance

Hopefully now they are a tag team then they will get some decent music and maybe a slight repackage in terms of attire etc

Mcintyres aggression and Zigglers flair make good ground for a good team


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 24/April/2018 at 15:07
Quote Titus Worldwide vs. Dolph Ziggler and Drew McIntyre: Titus Worldwide comes out first, then Drew and Dolph come out separately. Ziggler and Titus start off and Titus takes control early on. Crews tags in and hits a moonsault on Ziggler for a two count. Crews continues the offense until Drew gets the tag and double teams Crews. McIntyre works over Crews and taunts Titus on the apron. Ziggler and McIntyre hit some double team moves now, and finish up with the Claymore - Zig Zag combo on Crews for the three count.

Winners: Drew McIntyre and Dolph Ziggler

- After the match, Ziggler and McIntyre do an interview in the ring with Charly Caruso. They talk about how dangerous Drew is, and Drew says he's a superstar and he's the reality check WWE needs. Ziggler says they don't care about showing off, because this is the show. They walk off and heads to the back.

I guess we won't be getting an explaination for the unexplained change of attitude with Drew.
 
Drew has bulked up a lot. He appears to be a fair bit bigger than his NXT days and a lot bigger than during his first E run.
 
I can see Dolph being pushed the most, at least to begin with. Think of him as HBK and Drew as Diesel for their roles.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 24/April/2018 at 17:27
I like the comparison to HBK and Diesel, I see them as almost a more PG more serious version of the original DX too.

Liked Dolphs line about not stealing the show because they are the show. Drew certainly has bulked up since his early days, think he’s just grown into his physique as he was only in his early twenties during his first WWE run.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 24/April/2018 at 18:18
Yeah I made the HBK Diesel comparison as soon as they appeared on Raw and I hope that continues to play out that way. 

I'm a bit worried seeing them in tag team competition though, as I hope they'll be more singles competitors than anything. TBH I really enjoy the pairing and I hope this leads to Ziggler being a main event star. I think McIntyre might just be the thing Ziggler was missing to be WWE Universal Champion once Lesnar is gone and out of the picture. Ziggler, with the help of McIntyre would be great as the guy that takes the title away from Roman Reigns. At the VERY LEAST Ziggler should be in the main event against Reigns at a PPV or two over the summer, even if he doesn't win.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 24/April/2018 at 18:35
It’s a really interesting partnership because it feels fresh and different and it’s giving the long held back Ziggler something noteworthy to do and almost has people forgetting all the jobbing he’s done.

I do wonder if the goal here is to put McIntyre over, it could go several ways.....

1) They become a regular tag-team chasing the tag titles - I hope this doesn’t happen as both men could be singles stars.

2) They get so over that they end up turning babyface.

3) They follow the same path as Diesel and Shawn and ultimately split up and feud.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 24/April/2018 at 19:03
I really DO hope it's #3. I'm sure you're right that the whole point is to get McIntyre over, but if Ziggler were to become WWE champion on down the road, and then they split and McIntyre takes the title from Ziggler? To me that's just win-win, except for the fact that someone still needs to get the title off Brock, and if Brock is holding the title until he breaks CM Punk's "record" then it's probably not going to be Reigns, and then who will it be? So it just doesn't seem likely to me.

However if it were Ziggler vs Rollins for the Intercontinental Championship, then maybe that'd be a more realistic and acceptable compromise?


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 24/April/2018 at 19:31
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

I really DO hope it's #3. I'm sure you're right that the whole point is to get McIntyre over, but if Ziggler were to become WWE champion on down the road, and then they split and McIntyre takes the title from Ziggler? To me that's just win-win, except for the fact that someone still needs to get the title off Brock, and if Brock is holding the title until he breaks CM Punk's "record" then it's probably not going to be Reigns, and then who will it be? So it just doesn't seem likely to me.

However if it were Ziggler vs Rollins for the Intercontinental Championship, then maybe that'd be a more realistic and acceptable compromise?


The whole thing with this is Ziggler came out and said he brought someone with him who of course turned out to be McIntyre instantly suggesting Ziggler is ‘the guy’ in this arrangement and Drew is his back up.

Would be something wouldn’t it if Ziggler goes on to win the World title this year which in turn leads to a split between him and McIntyre and a feud between the two over the title. Like I said I think the goal here is establish Drew as a big player and doing that should achieve it.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 24/April/2018 at 20:33
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

I like the comparison to HBK and Diesel

There has been alot bout this on the internet over the past week or so

Its a great act if they can let it run for a prolonged period of time instead of having the inevitable split after about 3 weeks

They need a tag team entrance because the merging of the two themes is awful

Regarding Adders' point - Mcintyre was about this size during his recent run with NXT but he is certainly alot bigger than his first run in WWE.

Probably been on the gear in his years between his first and second run

I'm looking forward to see how these guys are booked going forward


Mcintyre has all the attributes - hes going to be a superstar if he keeps up this level of performance and this new attitude.


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 25/April/2018 at 09:50
I should point out that Diesel was pushed far ahead of Michaels for essentially his whole WWE run. A prolonged run as a team, a brief tag title run and an IC/US belt run for Ziggler could really establish McIntyre well when he does turn on Ziggler and take that belt away from him. 

I do keep wanting to type Galloway though.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 25/April/2018 at 18:30
Quote I should point out that Diesel was pushed far ahead of Michaels for essentially his whole WWE run.

You're remembering it very differently than I am. I remember watching this as it happened, it's one of the few storylines during the mid-90's WWF I actually was interested in. I haven't watched it since it originally aired, but as memory serves, HBK wanted a bodyguard, got Diesel, and for the most part Diesel just sat in the background and helped Shawn cheat to win. THEN mid-way through their run together Diesel started getting popular and got pushed on his own singles career, built popularity overtook Shawn for a short time before Shawn triumphed in the end and Diesel went to WCW.

Yes Diesel had the spotlight for a time, but Diesel's time in the spotlight began and ended with Shawn Michaels. Long before there was Diesel, there was Shawn, and long after Diesel was gone, there was still Shawn.

Not to mention that Shawn completely out-earned Diesel, and out drew Diesel, so if Diesel was pushed far ahead of Michaels for ANY amount of time it was only because it was appropriate to the storyline, and was not his whole WWE run.

That said, I'm remembering back 25 years and haven't seen it since, so maybe I'm wrong, too, but speaking as a guy that watched it all go down (semi) live, you're talking about a very different story than the one I remember.

As far as Dolph & Drew are concerned though, if it goes down exactly like HBK & Diesel I'll be more than fine, because HBK & Diesel did feud over the WWF Championship, and I think Dolph & Drew could probably put on just as good of a show as HBK & Diesel did.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 26/April/2018 at 18:13
My memory of it went something like this.....

Shawn recruited Diesel as his bodyguard and as Rico said for a good while Diesel would sit in the background and just play the outside enforcer role, as his popularity gained he started working matches and won the Intercontinental title, also Shawn got injured which saw them switch roles with HBK being the man on the outside, they also had a spell with the tag-belts, eventually they split with Diesel turning babyface and becoming WWE champion, Shawn would face Diesel for the WWE title at Wrestlemania but lost via clean pinfall. The two men would eventually reunite as a team when Shawn turned face, Diesel eventually dropped the belt to Bret Hart I think and then turned heel for a brief period before heading to WCW.

So of the two Diesel was pushed harder I would say but it is Shawn who will be remembered as the bigger star of the two but that is largely due to Diesel spending a large chunk of his better years in WCW.


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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 28/April/2018 at 12:08
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Quote I should point out that Diesel was pushed far ahead of Michaels for essentially his whole WWE run.

You're remembering it very differently than I am. I remember watching this as it happened, it's one of the few storylines during the mid-90's WWF I actually was interested in. I haven't watched it since it originally aired, but as memory serves, HBK wanted a bodyguard, got Diesel, and for the most part Diesel just sat in the background and helped Shawn cheat to win. THEN mid-way through their run together Diesel started getting popular and got pushed on his own singles career, built popularity overtook Shawn for a short time before Shawn triumphed in the end and Diesel went to WCW.

Yes Diesel had the spotlight for a time, but Diesel's time in the spotlight began and ended with Shawn Michaels. Long before there was Diesel, there was Shawn, and long after Diesel was gone, there was still Shawn.

This is exactly as it happened. Shawn was there waaaay first, and was in the middle of proving he is one of the best Intercontinental Champions ever when he brought in Diesel from WCW (where he was Diamond Dallas Page's sidekick Vinnie Vegas) as his new bodyguard/sidekick/mirror holder, replacing Scary Sherri. They had a WWF Tag Team Title run during this time. But Diesel, despite being a bad guy, became extremely popular (beginning when he eliminated a slew of people at the 1994 Royal Rumble) and was pushed to the World Title first, annihilating Bob Backlund. Diesel had a year long reign, including WrestleMania XI where he successfully defended against Shawn. 

In the meantime Shawn turned good after being attacked by his third sidekick Sid (Diesel's replacement) after WrestleMania XI and later had another Intercontinental title reign, won two Rumbles, and took the World Title from Bret Hart in a WrestleMania main event (Diesel won the same belt at a house show) when Diesel was on his way out back to WCW.   


Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

As far as Dolph & Drew are concerned though, if it goes down exactly like HBK & Diesel I'll be more than fine, because HBK & Diesel did feud over the WWF Championship, and I think Dolph & Drew could probably put on just as good of a show as HBK & Diesel did.

That all being said, the actual comparisons of Dolph Ziggler & McIntyre to Diesel & Michaels I can kind of see even though I don't see neither Ziggler nor McIntyre as being as big. I can't believe so many people are leaping to this comparison; but I guess as most people here massively overate Ziggler and have high World Title hopes for him, the comparison is made by someone and it's like everyone else follows.

I was actually going to come into this thread and say that the team reminds me of McIntyre's former team with Cody Rhodes in the Dashing Ones, as both were arrogant and tried to be stylish. 


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 28/April/2018 at 15:34
I think the comparison for Shawn and Diesel is so widely accepted because of the size difference and honestly Drew doesn't seem to be "stylish" so much as muscle to back up Ziggler. I suppose that could change in the near future though.

Realistically though, I DO see tag title gold at the very least in these guys future, but I hope and think it makes the most sense to put the intercontinental championship on Ziggler. Rollins has been put over countless times by Ziggler in the past and I really hope he will pay that back to Ziggler in a great IC Title feud that sees Ziggler take the title with the help of Drew.

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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 28/April/2018 at 15:45
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

I think the comparison for Shawn and Diesel is so widely accepted because of the size difference and honestly Drew doesn't seem to be "stylish" so much as muscle to back up Ziggler. I suppose that could change in the near future though.

See that's the difference between how I and some others see McIntyre. I see him more as a technical wrestler and finesse guy as opposed to a big muscle and power move guy as Diesel was. But yes Drew has put on muscle.  

Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Realistically though, I DO see tag title gold at the very least in these guys future, but I hope and think it makes the most sense to put the intercontinental championship on Ziggler. Rollins has been put over countless times by Ziggler in the past and I really hope he will pay that back to Ziggler in a great IC Title feud that sees Ziggler take the title with the help of Drew.

Sure, the Tag Titles are very realistic for these guys fairly soon. And while I wouldn't mind another Intercontinental Title reign by Ziggler (after Rollins has a fair run that is), it wouldn't make any sense as Ziggler gave up the U.S. belt for supposedly bigger and better things and the IC belt would seem like a parallel move, as is his whole partnership with Drew in a larger sense. 

Based on his ambitions after giving up the U.S. belt it would make more sense for him to go full on after Brock, even if he gets pulverized.   


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 28/April/2018 at 15:51
Quote it wouldn't make any sense as Ziggler gave up the U.S. belt for supposedly bigger and better things and the IC belt would seem like a parallel move

That's completely fair. I agree, but at the same time I'm not sure that I can see the guys backstage saying you know who we should put the title on after Brock Lesnar? Dolph Ziggler. I think Ziggler would be a great champion for Raw, and could do a good job of it, but the likelihood of it seems pretty low at this point in time. I would definitely enjoy seeing him win the Universal belt, but I think the IC title is more realistic.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 08/May/2018 at 19:05
These 2 are absolutely quality

McIntyre has star written all over him.

Ziggler, still needs new entrance music, but has shown slight changes in his character - hes even more arrogant but its not just the "im that damn good" arrogance - its the "ive got this unit to back me up now" sort of arrogance.

I'd like to see them have a title feud / title run for a little while before the inevitable split up and then have Drew enter MITB next year and win


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 08/May/2018 at 20:37
Yeah I’m loving this partnership. Drew should be booked like Diesel back in the day as a bad ass heel who is dominant in his matches. Dolph is great in the HBK role as a guy that’s beatable but he shines in all his matches due to his shear talent and will use heel tactics to get the job done.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 08/May/2018 at 22:22
Were they on this last week's episode of Raw? It was left off the hulu presentation. I would have liked to have seen that segment.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 08/May/2018 at 22:48
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Were they on this last week's episode of Raw? It was left off the hulu presentation. I would have liked to have seen that segment.


Worked a match against Slater and Rhyno.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 09/May/2018 at 13:35
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Were they on this last week's episode of Raw? It was left off the hulu presentation. I would have liked to have seen that segment.
 
Surprised at that. They are a new pairing, so E should want them seen as much as possible, so people get more and more used to seeing them together.
 
Quote Dolph Ziggler & Drew McIntyre vs. Rhyno & Heath Slater: Rhyno and Ziggler start this one off. Ziggler slaps Rhyno across the chest, and Rhyno drops him. Slater tags in and they double team Ziggle. Heath hits a big right hand on Ziggler, and then he attempts a suplex, but Dolph escapes. Drew tags in and trades punches with Slater. Slater starts firing up, but Drew shuts him down with a big boot. Drew chops Slater, then hangs him upside-down over the ropes and Ziggler superkicks Slater from the floor. Ziggler knocks Rhyno out to the floor, and then they hit a double-team Zig Zag/Claymore on Slater for the three count.

Winners: Dolph Ziggler & Drew McIntyre

- Ziggler and McIntyre leave the ring and head to the back.

Really hope E are working on a team theme music, as that's one of the main things they are missing.
 
The mixture of their finishers into one special move looks brilliant.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 09/May/2018 at 18:50
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Really hope E are working on a team theme music, as that's one of the main things they are missing.

I actually sent WWE a tweet the other day asking them to give them new music and it got quite a few retweets but they probably still didnt take any notice


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 15/May/2018 at 18:54
Ive honestly got no idea why Strowman and Balor teamed up this week - the only thing i can think of was that they wanted Drew and Dolph to get a win over 2 big name superstars.

McIntyre v Strowman could be an interesting feud going forward

Drews "new" attitude is brilliant and i dont think there are many superstars who look the part as much as he does.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 16/May/2018 at 13:57
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Really hope E are working on a team theme music, as that's one of the main things they are missing.

I actually sent WWE a tweet the other day asking them to give them new music and it got quite a few retweets but they probably still didnt take any notice
 
Hopefully they do. To be taken properly seriously as a tag team, you need a tag team theme.
 
Quote Ziggler came out to a record scratch and his shitty music, which is different than his recent scratch, pause, and shitty music entrance. McIntyre’s music took over and spared the world from hearing more of Ziggler’s shitty music…

7. Braun Strowman and Finn Balor vs. Drew McIntyre and Dolph Ziggler. Strowman and McIntyre glared at one another once they were both in the ring. Balor and Ziggler started the match. The big men tagged in quickly. McIntyre tagged out before they could lock up. [C] The heels isolated Balor until Strowman took a hot tag at 10:20. Strowman worked over Ziggler briefly, but Ziggler avoided him charging into the corner.

Balor tagged back into the match and fought with Ziggler. Balor had Ziggler down and started to go up top, but McIntyre reached up and stopped him. Strowman took out McIntyre with a shoulder block on the floor, but Ziggler took advantage of the distraction and hit the ropes. Balor fell to the match and was pinned by Ziggler…

Drew McIntyre and Dolph Ziggler defeated Braun Strowman and Finn Balor in 12:25.

The only way they were going to win was to pin Balor, but I will take it.
 
It's a shame the crowd didn't react much. Drew being Scottish should have got him major heat, not silence.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 16/May/2018 at 19:04
You are aware that generally English and Scottish hate each other right? so him not getting a reaction over here doesnt really surprise me

They really need to sort their fucking music out


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 18/May/2018 at 15:28
Drew has star written all over him and I would say he looks the part even more than Roman Reigns. 

WWE have done the right thing here by having Drew work heel alongside a established star like Ziggler, hopefully this can result in Drew getting over strong with the fans organically and then at the right time WWE can pull the trigger on a babyface turn for him. He proved effective as a face both in TNA and NXT. 

A win over Strowman and Balor shows that WWE have big plans for these two.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 23/May/2018 at 11:29
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

You are aware that generally English and Scottish hate each other right? so him not getting a reaction over here doesnt really surprise me
 
I get that. That's why he should have got a reaction of hate. The English crowd couldn't be arsed giving the Scottish guy any banter chants.
 
Quote Kurt Angle is backstage trying to get cell phone service, when he gets interrupted by Chad Gable. Angle and Gable chat about Gable possibly being in a Money In The Bank qualifying match, but then Drew McIntyre and Dolph Ziggler walk in. Drew talks about beating Balor and Strowman last week, and says they'd love to do it again, but those decisions are above Angle's pay grade now. They make some jokes about Kurt not being in his office anymore, and they mock Gable too. Gable says they aren't as special as they think they are, and Drew steps up top Gable. Angle gets between them, and says they'll settle it in the ring tonight. Drew and Ziggler walk off, and Angle calls them jackasses.
 
Chad Gable vs. Dolph Ziggler: Back from commercial, this one is already underway. McIntyre is at ringside in Ziggler's corner. Gable takes down Ziggler early and wrestles him down to the mat. Ziggler turns it around and hits a dropkick, then keeps Gable grounded. Ziggler continues to work over Gable until Gable takes him down and rolls him up for a two count. Ziggler gets up and starts working over Gable's knee. Ziggler blocks a German suplex attempt, and follows up with a neckbreaker on Gable. Ziggler charges at Gable in the corner, but Gable stops him with an elbow to the face. Gable dodges a superkick, and then rolls up Ziggler for a two count. Gable sends Ziggler int othe corner and hits a German suplex for a two count. Ziggler comes back with a headbutt and then a superkick for the three count.

Winner: Dolph Ziggler

- After the match, Drew hits the ring and hits the Claymore kick on Gable. Ziggler and McIntyre stand tall over Gable as we go to commercial.

Management are really behind them, as their heel win streak continues to grow.
 
They haven't been together long, but will be fast tracked to a title match or even a defense no later than Summerslam I would guess.


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 23/May/2018 at 11:56
I would expect we'll see Ziggler and McIntyre pushed for a couple of months while the B Team and maybe Breezango get title shots to firmly cement Wyatt and Hardy.

Ziggler/McIntyre take the belts around Summerslam as you say, leaving Wyatt and Hardy to implode. Long term I think we'll see American Alpha vs Ziggler/McIntyre for the belts at Wrestlemania.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 29/May/2018 at 18:21
There are gradual tweaks they keep making to their look every week and its making them look more and more bad ass / rock n roll / more of a tag team.

They still need their own tag music though

McIntyre is an absolute monster

Kind of feel sorry for Gable having his ass kicked week after week - i wonder if this is the way they are going to get american alpha back together


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 05/June/2018 at 19:48
I'm surprised that after the role theyve been on in recent weeks that they were eliminated from the tag match so early.

However i noticed in particular that Ziggler was the one to take the loss for the team and im wondering already if this is the start of the tension between the 2 before the inevitable break up


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 12/June/2018 at 11:09
Quote The Fashion Police vs. Dolph Ziggler & Drew McIntyre: Ziggler and Breeze start this one off and Ziggler drops him. Ziggler hits an elbow drop for a two count early on. Drew tags in and works over Breeze in the corner, then Ziggler tags back in and continues the offense. Fandango tags in and all four men start brawling. Drew powerbombs Breeze onto Fandango, and then they hit the Zig Zag/Claymore combination on Breeze for the three count.

Winners: Dolph Ziggler & Drew McIntyre

- After the match, Dolph and Drew cut a promo saying this beat-down tonight is proof of their in-ring ability.

Pointless squash match. After not becoming number one contenders last week, they should have been booked stronger.
 
Instead they face a comedy team they have already beaten in a one sided match before, that we didn't need to see again.
 
If they didn't want them to face another rostered team, they could have had them beat say two jobber teams in a handicap match.


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 12/June/2018 at 14:08
They got their heat back and continued to challenge the locker room in a meta storyline that's very appealing in the current climate of part time world champions.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 13/June/2018 at 19:07
Yeah they are currently working their way through the rest of the division so it seems. Therefore squashing breezango makes sense as they are probably the weakest team in the division.

Omwards and upwards from here

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 19/June/2018 at 07:58
All im gna say is wow

Did not see that one coming

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 19/June/2018 at 18:40
To elaborate on my earlier point - the fact Dolph actually won the IC title is one thing but the match was fucking immense too

What i also liked was Mcintyre attacking Rollins when it looked like Seth was going to hit Dolph after the match

The backstage promo about immediately afterwards only adds to their credibility

This is the perfect role for Dolph and the perfect stage to set up Mcintyre as a legit star - which he clearly is


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 26/June/2018 at 19:00
Ziggler v Rollins on Raw is one of the best TV matches ive seen for ages 

Fantastic match and now that the multi man match is off at ER - maybe we will get one more between these 2 - maybe in a ladder match or something?


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 29/June/2018 at 09:00
Was a great match but I still think this is all designed to build McIntyre in to a star.

I think the Ziggler/McIntyre split will happen sooner rather than later possibly while Dolph is still Intercontinental champ, although another possible route they could go is that they get over so strong as a partnership that WWE keep the alliance together and just flip them to babyface.

Either way I hope they don’t rush the split as this is the most prominent Ziggler has been in years and this current version of his character is working and the memories of his many gimmick changes are fading.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 30/June/2018 at 12:45
I've read that this push Ziggler is getting is all to try and persuade him to sign a new deal.

Knowing WWE id expect Zigglers new deal to be announced in the way of Mcintyre taking the title from him and then Ziggler disappearing to the lower card / kick off shows - which is a shame because its so obvious he still is one of the best workers they have in the company


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 01/July/2018 at 17:45
This push isn't about Ziggler at all. This team is all about McIntyre

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 01/July/2018 at 19:38
Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

This push isn't about Ziggler at all. This team is all about McIntyre


I get that this is about mcintyre but to say none of its about ziggler is mental.

Could have just kept drew by himself doing what hes currently doing if it was all about him

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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 01/July/2018 at 19:44
That's one perspective. For casuals they might have no idea who McIntyre is though, and there's no room at the top right now to push him. Ziggler gives McIntyre credibility and enables him to be the dark, brooding, mysterious Reigns in The Shield style character.

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Posted By: 4 of em
Date Posted: 02/July/2018 at 00:39
You think maybe that Drew is the Diesel to Dolphs Shawn Michaels ?

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 02/July/2018 at 15:44
Originally posted by 4 of em 4 of em wrote:

You think maybe that Drew is the Diesel to Dolphs Shawn Michaels ?


Thats exaxtly what i think

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 02/July/2018 at 17:56
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

Originally posted by 4 of em 4 of em wrote:

You think maybe that Drew is the Diesel to Dolphs Shawn Michaels ?


Thats exaxtly what i think


100% and I expect it to play out much the same too with McIntyre going babyface and feuding with the heel Ziggler.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 02/July/2018 at 18:29
Id like to see it go the other way around.

I think the dark Mcintyre is better than babyface mcintyre plus we already have strowman who does the whole "dont trust anyone / fight with anyone" thing and hes a face so it would be cool to have a dominant heel like that.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 02/July/2018 at 19:39
McIntyre as a dark dominant heel would be a very cool thing but in today’s WWE he would soon be getting cheers which would see Vince turning him face. Heels like that work in NXT but not so much on the main roster.

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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 03/July/2018 at 08:57
I expect McIntyre to be an anti-hero style face. If he turns on Ziggler the crowd will cheer, preventing a heel turn.

I don't see McIntyre as the next Diesel. I see him as the next Kevin Nash.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 03/July/2018 at 18:11
They were both impressive again this week on Raw

Its good to see them getting lots of TV time



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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 04/July/2018 at 13:00
Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

I don't see McIntyre as the next Diesel. I see him as the next Kevin Nash.
 
Without the career of regular injuries hopefully.
 
Quote Michael Cole welcomes us to the arena, and Roman Reigns comes out to kick off the show. Reigns steps in the ring and gets on the mic, and complains about losing to The Revival last week. He blames the loss on having the worst tag partner ever - Bobby Lashley, and he wants to fight Lashley right here and now. Dolph Ziggler and Drew McIntyre come out to interrupt. Ziggler takes issue with Reigns acting like he owns the place, and trying to make everything about him. Ziggler and McIntyre step into the ring and stand across from Reigns. Drew says since he stuck his nose in their business last week, they're going to return the favor now. Ziggler and McIntyre beat down Reigns until Seth Rollins runs out for the save. Rollins fights off Ziggler and McIntyre and helps Reigns up to his feet in the ring. Drew and Dolph retreat up the ramp as we go to commercial.
 
It's a good job Seth was booked for the save, as they were getting cheered quite rightly for beating Roman up.
 
I would keep them from the tag title picture for another few months yet, as their is no rush and the slow build is working really well.


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 05/July/2018 at 14:48
Hopefully without the injuries yeah.

They're pretty well established now, in a way that would really devalue the tag division if they moved into it, I feel. I still think vs AOP is the next big tag feud.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 04/September/2018 at 13:37
Quote Baron Corbin is backstage berating a production assistant when Braun, Drew and Dolph walk in. Dolph and Drew want a match for the Tag Titles tonight, but Corbin says he can't tonight because The Revival has already got the Title shot. Drew says he heard The Revival isn't able to compete tonight, and asks what if they aren't able to compete tonight. Corbin says if they aren't, then he'd have to make other arranements. Drew and Dolph smile and walk off. Braun gets in Corbin's face and tells him to find him some competition for tonight.
- The Revival is backstage for an interview, when Drew and Dolph attack from behind. They beat down The Revival around the backstage area and throw them into some production equipment.

- The B Team (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler & Drew McIntyre: The Revival's music hits, but they don't come out. It looks like Drew and Dolph will get this Tag Title shot instead. The opening bell sounds and Drew starts off strong, knocking Dallas off the apron and then hitting a belly to belly suplex on Axel. Ziggler gets the tag and goes at it with Axel, until Dallas gets the tag. Ziggler misses a splash in the corner and Dallas hits a lariat then knocks Dolph to the outside. The B Team clotheslines Drew to the outside next. Back in the ring, Drew turns things around against Dallas and beats on him in the corner. Dallas fights back with some kicks and then a DDT. Axel and Ziggler get the tags, and Axel cleans house. Axel hits a Perfect-plex and pins, but Drew breaks it up. Drew splexes Axel down, and then Dallas runs in but Drew drops him too. Ziggler and Axel get to their feet, and Ziggler hits a superkick. Drew tags in and they follow up with the double team Zig Zag for the three count.


Winners & new Tag Team Champions: Drew McIntyre & Dolph Ziggler

- Drew and Dolph celebrate with their new Tag Title belts after the match.
 
Great booking. Take out the number one contenders to take their place in a title match and then win.
 
About time that the tag titles were back on a serious team that look the part for the role they are in.
 
I can see a long run for them now. I suspect at Survivor Series they will be in a traditional ten man match, but still be champions.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 04/September/2018 at 19:05
Really good match and McIntyre/Ziggler continue their monster push by winning the tag belts. It's a decision I'm happy with it as I'm loving the combination of these two guys and I think we all knew the comedy act the B-Team wouldn't be champs long-term.

McIntyre continues to impress me with his power game in the ring, he's reinvented himself as a monster heel and I hope they keep booking him this way.

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