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Shayna Baszler in NXT

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Topic: Shayna Baszler in NXT
Posted By: Rico Len
Subject: Shayna Baszler in NXT
Date Posted: 13/January/2018 at 02:12
This is the women's division's version of Brock Lesnar.

We have debated who Asuka was the female counterpart of, usually either Lesnar or Goldberg.

Let me restate it though, Baszler is the female Brock Lesnar. She is the next big thing, she is the beast incarnate. She is a monster like that of Chyna and Beth Phoenix.

Now she is showing character and it is a cross between Lesnar, and heel Ryback.

I think I am.going to have a lot of fun watching her grow as a performer, because seeing her as a smug bully who knows she is bigger, badder, and better than everyone else in the locker room is going to make for some good matchups with women like Nikki Cross and Ember Moon.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 28/January/2018 at 16:22
Shayna looked excellent even in defeat last night.

She is one of the few women in WWE right now that should strike legitimate fear into their opponents, Asuka being the other given her undefeated streak and submission ability.

Shayna has been built up well over the previous few month and i actually expected her to take the title, the choke hold reversal into a pin was excellently done by Ember Moon and the match was brilliant in the fact both came out of it looking good. 

The post match beat down got Shayna her momentum back instantly and id expect to see a rematch down the line, Shayna has plenty of opportunity for storyline involvement given all of the people she has attacked and/or put out of action

I'd like to see Ronda lead an MMA type stable with Shayna being a key player in that but i cant see her moving to the main roster just yet


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 28/January/2018 at 16:40
I wonder though... I think she MIGHT head to the main roster, I don't necessarily think it's a good idea, but on the other hand there are other extenuating circumstances that might lead to it regardless. One is the obvious addition of Rousey sooner or later. It's just a matter of time. The other is that now that Paige is done with in-ring competition, might not Daria Berenato/Sonja Deville end up in this group??? Granted she has very little of the same clout in the MMA world of either Baszler or Rousey, but she is an experienced MMA fighter regardless, and her gimmick plays up on that fact.

That is a group I would not want to (kayfabe) fuck with if I were in that division. 

TBH if the 4 horsewomen vs 4 horsewomen feud doesn't come to pass for one reason or another, Daria leaving team PMS might just be a reality, and coincide with Baszler going to the main roster sooner than would otherwise be advisable simply because Rousey is ready to work in the WWE for real.

That said, Baszler is a fucking cunt of a character I want to see get her ass kicked all around the ring, and it's perfect for her. She reminds me of everything I liked about Chyna. So seeing her in a long run in NXT and taking the title would be awesome, too.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 28/January/2018 at 16:44
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

...might not Daria Berenato/Sonja Deville end up in this group??? Granted she has very little of the same clout in the MMA world of either Baszler or Rousey, but she is an experienced MMA fighter regardless, and her gimmick plays up on that fact.

That is a group I would not want to (kayfabe) fuck with if I were in that division. 


Absolutely 100% they should all be in that group and that 4 would be an excellent feud for the 4 Horsewomen (previously of NXT)

They would be a legit force on any of the WWE main shows and wherever Rousey goes, the interest will initially follow so having her involved in something so impactful (a bit like Wade Barrett with Nexus etc) will help keep the interest there.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 28/January/2018 at 17:04
The thing that interests me is that will WWE make Rousey a heel? I seriously doubt it.

At this point I would say wait until the post mania draft/roster shakeup, and then send Bayley and Banks to Smackdown, and have Rousey & Baszler debut on Raw, and slowly build towards a horsewomen vs horsewomen match at survivor series.

But that's me. 

I do wonder whether or not Rousey could succeed as a heel to begin with? I would think she'd be a pretty over babyface, at least early on, and then turn heel as her popularity and the novelty of her being in the WWE fades, at which point she can be more of what she wants to be and have the most fun, and that in turn would likely make her popular rise again to where she'd have to be a babyface again.

All of that is assuming she has any kind of lengthy run, and I don't see that happening. I think she'll be on a more or less Brock Lesnar kind of deal, yet just a 1-year full-time TV deal where she is at almost every TV taping and PPV, but maybe not house shows would be ideal for storylines.

Baszler's issue is that she is basically going to be looked at almost all of her wrestling career as Rousey's right-hand girl, or walking in her shadow, etc., and I would be my left testicle that Baszler and Rousey both would love to feud with each other for the WWE Women's championship.

Does anyone see Baszler wrestling for the WWE in a full-time schedule for 5 years solid? I feel like she's only there for the short-term, maybe 2, 3 years tops.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 28/January/2018 at 17:13
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

The thing that interests me is that will WWE make Rousey a heel? I seriously doubt it.

At this point I would say wait until the post mania draft/roster shakeup, and then send Bayley and Banks to Smackdown, and have Rousey & Baszler debut on Raw, and slowly build towards a horsewomen vs horsewomen match at survivor series.

But that's me. 

I do wonder whether or not Rousey could succeed as a heel to begin with? I would think she'd be a pretty over babyface, at least early on, and then turn heel as her popularity and the novelty of her being in the WWE fades, at which point she can be more of what she wants to be and have the most fun, and that in turn would likely make her popular rise again to where she'd have to be a babyface again.


Given her reputation in UFC and her intensity in UFC face offs, couple with the way MMA type guys are booked in WWE, im almost certain she will be a heel.

Raw, which is where i am assuming she will fit in, is pretty babyface heavy, in terms of top names in the womens division, with the likes of Asuka, Banks, Bayley. If they make Ronda face she wont really have anyone to feud with given that Paige cant wrestle at the minute and Bliss being the only other top Heel - but even she seems to be showing the odd sign of turning face.

Id personally like to see her booked as a female version of Stone Cold - taking out everyone, Heels and Faces just to focus solely on herself (thats if she doesnt form the MMA stable)



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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 28/January/2018 at 17:33
The reason I think she'll be babyface is because all of her appearances so far in WWE has been as a babyface. Looking back to The Rock n Rousey connection vs The Authority she was hugely over as a babyface, and celebrities usually get marginal babyface reactions just as a way of being polite, if not just getting crapped on, so her strong babyface reaction says to me she'll start baby.

That said, you're definitely right in that she'll likely go to Raw, and Raw needs heels. Not only that but I Rousey will probably need to be a heel to do the four horsewomen feud. I suppose they could start her heel for a week or two and then turn her pretty rapidly.

I'm still quite keen on Rousey vs Charlotte for the WWE Women's Championship and having Rousey hold until she meets Asuka and having Asuka take the title from Rousey.

Baszler would be a good character to use to break up the MMA's four horsewomen. 

Perhaps in the chronology of Rousey's WWE career they should set up horsewomen vs horsewomen, then Rousey vs Charlotte to give Rousey the championship, have Baszler turn on Rousey, to flip Rousey babyface, have Rousey successfully defend, and then have baby vs baby Asuka vs Rousey. That could make up the better part of a year's worth of PPVs and after that I doubt we could expect much more from Rousey in the WWE.

Following up from there Baszler vs Asuka(c) would be fantastic as well, given that Baszler continues to improve. 


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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 28/January/2018 at 17:45
I don't see them keep Shayna in NXT for long. I would go as far and say she'll be in the Womens Rumble tonight taking out a few of the lower ranked women. Before last night I would have said this wouldn't have happened but the 4 horsewomen sign at the end does make me think she'll be there.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 28/January/2018 at 18:23
Baszler's theme music also has the 4 horseman theme incorporated into it, so I agree, Baz. She threw up the 4 horseman sign, too. I thought she was going to win the title, and while I didn't like the idea of that happening, and I'm happy she lost, the fact that she still looked so good, both professionally and kayfabe, meaning she looked like a boss in the ring, yet her loss looked legit, and not stupid or fake, or bullshit or whatever, and despite all that she still looked good, it all bodes well for her future imo. IMO she's candidate #1 to show up in the women's rumble from the list of people in NXT that could enter even over any of the men that might debut as well.

I think the most Baszler stays in NXT is until this year's wrestlemania.


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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 28/January/2018 at 19:25
I think they should get her to work a programme with Nikki Cross before being called up. A crazy woman who is experienced enough to rub off on Shayna. That would be my ideal choice anyway.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 29/January/2018 at 15:37
First time I’ve seen her in the ring at Takeover, what a bad ass, great match, as I said in the Takeover thread can’t remember ever enjoying a Women’s match as much as that.

I love that she’s incorporated her MMA submission style in with her wrestling so much, it works well and makes for harder hitting more realistic looking work in the ring.

So she’s still pretty green? You wouldn’t know it.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 22/March/2018 at 22:37
Shayna is quickly becoming one of the best Heels in all of WWE.

She is totally bad ass as Fletch states above. 

In WWE nowadays there are not that many pre or post match beatdowns and when they do happen they arent what they used to be. Shayna changes that, shes breaking arms, choking out and just being an absolute beast.

She looks like the perfect heel and she is 100% believable.

I really hope she takes the title at Takeover because id love to see her as champ and see how dominant she can be.

She also has that weasly miz-type trait where she can just walk away from matches if she (kayfabe) thinks shes got no chance of winning or things arent going her way. She blindsides people the whole works.

For people who are on board with the womens wrestling revolution on the main roster OR people who are unfamiliar with stuff going on in NXT - id highly reccomend watching some of her stuff from the last couple of months


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 03/June/2018 at 17:34
Shayna is the best female Heel in all of wrestling right now.

Whilst watching the most recent episodes of NXT and her constant run ins with Dakota - it had me thinking, why is Nia Jax not being like this. Infact with Jax, it would go down even better if she kept up the anti bullying promos but then went on to bully the rest of the roster. Think about it, theres no way she could not get heat being booked to bully everyone and then preach about anti bullying.

Without the anti bullying stuff, the rest is what Shayna is doing right now to everyone else on the NXT Womens division and it is working a treat.

She is excellent in the ring and can talk the talk but her best attribute to date for me is her ability to intimidate other / her attitude.

She is also being booked differently to most heel, for example, when Nikki Cross took the title off her and laid it down in the ring - traditional WWE heels would either look for an opportunity to sneak attack or just walk away and leave the battle for when the odds were in their favor again. Baszler walked straight into the ring to collect the belt - despite being at the numerical disadvantage and being fresh out of a match.

This to me is the way WWE should be booking their heel champions.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 03/June/2018 at 19:00
People did NOT like her to begin with, remember when she was announced for the Women's Tournament? People knew who she was and groaned because they thought she was going to win and she was going to suck, too. She has done a great job at winning people over, and she has proven she's a monster in her division.

I wonder though how things will change when she gets to the main roster. Will they keep her heel and on a different brand that Rousey? Will they flip her baby and keep her with Rousey? Will the two feud?

Any way you look at it her inclusion on the main roster will be interesting. She's a game changer.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 03/June/2018 at 19:58
Because of how much (on Raw, Smackdown and NXT) they mention the 4 horsewomen - youd expect shed initially team with Ronda but eventually go her own way.

There are some superstars that excel at being a heel (Roode being the most obvious) that making them face would spoil them - i think that applies to Shayna.

Its her attitude that makes her so good - not sure how shed pull off being a face but im a huge fan and would stick around to find out.

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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 03/June/2018 at 20:38
That Shayna/Cross stuff was brilliant. We all know Cross is a nutjob and will stand up to anyone, so that one is going to be more even that many will predict. This is also the reason they kept Cross in NXT for another year..she will be used to bring on the next group of females before moving up, much like Bayley did before her.

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