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Topic: AJ Styles & Shinsuke Nakamura Storyline
Posted By: admin
Subject: AJ Styles & Shinsuke Nakamura Storyline
Date Posted: 13/November/2017 at 11:33
Quote During a https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wwe-smackdown" rel="nofollow - WWE SmackDown ! brand live event in Florence, Italy on Sunday, fans attendance began chanting “ https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wrestlemania" rel="nofollow - WrestleMania ” during a triple threat match featuring AJ Styles and https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/shinsuke-nakamura" rel="nofollow - Shinsuke Nakamura . At one point during the match, Styles put his WWE title in the ring between the two of them. Following the match, AJ Styles grabbed a microphone and said that a match featuring him and Nakamura would be “Too Sweet!”.
 
Not going to go down as classic mic work between them, but the match will more than deliver.
 
The plan looks in place with what went down and it makes sense to away from cameras have them against eachother regularly in the build up.
 
That way they get used to working with eachother and it stays fresh because we don't see any of it on TV.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 13/November/2017 at 18:58
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Not going to go down as classic mic work between them, but the match will more than deliver.
 
The plan looks in place with what went down and it makes sense to away from cameras have them against eachother regularly in the build up.
 
That way they get used to working with eachother and it stays fresh because we don't see any of it on TV.

Part of the magic of wrestlemania is the build up though for me and i cant see anyway that these 2 deliver on that aspect.

As you stated adders, the match would be incredible, any match with AJ Styles name attached to it these days is generally off the charts good.

Nakamura has struggled - mainly because they have tried to force him to cut regular promos, but also because the feud with Jinder was one of the worst in wrestling history, however, having him fight his way back to the main title picture before finally winning the title at Mania would be a good way of building him back up.

He's always popular with the crowd and that match at mania could be one of the best weve seen in years if they are given the right amount of time 


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 20/December/2017 at 15:48
Quote AJ Styles, Randy Orton & Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, & Jinder Mahal: The Singh Brothers do Jinder's introduction and are at ringside in his corner. Randy Orton starts this one off and Jinder and he knocks the other heels off the apron too. This one quickly becomes a ringside brawl as all four men spill outside and fight on the floor. Orton slams Jinder onto the announce table then throws him back in the ring. Orton goes for the early RKO, but Jinder escapes. Orton drops him, then Nakamura and Zayn come in. Nakamura backs Zayn up to the ropes and rips some of his chest hair out. Zayn charges but Nakamura drops him, then tags in AJ. AJ beats on Zayn, then quickly tags in Orton who picks up Zayn and drops him across the top rope. Jinder tags in and starts putting the boots to Orton. Jinder drops Orton with an elbow to the face. Owens tags in now and continues to stomp on Orton. AJ comes in and he has some trouble against the combination of Zayn, Owens, and Jinder, as they trade frequent tags and wear down the WWE Champion. Jinder hits a series of knee drops on Styles chokes him. Nakamura and Zayn come in now and Nakamura tees off with kicks. He follows up with some knee drops on Zayn, then hits the good vibrations in the corner. He sets up Zayn in the corner and hits a running knee strike for a two count. Nakamura misses one kick, but connects with the second one and gets another two count on Zayn. Zayn escapes a suplex attempt and hits a cheap shot, but Nakamura comes back with an armbar attempt. Owens runs in and hits a senton on Nakamura to break it up. Orton throws Owens outside, then Jinder runs in and hits a DDt on Orton. AJ runs in and hits a Pele kick on Jinder, then AJ hits a suicide dive on Owens outside. The Singh Brothers get on the apron which appears to lead to a cheap shot on NAkamura. The ref kicks the Singh Brothers out ,but they don't leave. Orton hits an RKO on Jinder, then he hits a draping double DDT on both Singh Brothers. AJ comes flying off the top rope with a Phenomenal Forearm on Owens, then Nakamura hits the Kinshasa on Zayn for the three count.

Winners: AJ Styles, Randy Orton & Shinsuke Nakamura

- Styles, Orton and Nakamura celebrate their win in the ring and stare down the heels laying at ringside.

Nakamura as the E novice of the team picking up the win last night could be the unofficial start of these two facing eachother at Wrestlemania.
 
Keep them away from the tag team picture, but have them regularly team together and win to build up a strong partnership.
 
The match would be fantastic. The only downside out of them fueding is still that neither should be a heel and I aren't sure how well received it would be by fans if they are chose to pick a side between two favourites, having a title fued based on sportsmanship and mutural appreciation, no hatred or bad blood.


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Posted By: ihatethatmonkee
Date Posted: 20/December/2017 at 18:44
a decent face v face feud would be a great way to end Mania, even though they obviously wouldn't be the last match of the night.

there are certain situations where there is no need for anyone to turn to add drama to the match, and this would be one of them.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 20/December/2017 at 19:45
Theres no doubt it would be an excellent match but alot of the excitement would not be coming from WWE show regulars / standard fans - its from all of us lot on forums and the like

For it to connect fully with the audience i think there needs to be the Face v Heel as often fans dont know who to cheer for and the atmosphere is lost - which is a shame because the crowd reactions certainly add to the match quality

Would be interesting to see a darker / heelish nakamura 


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 20/December/2017 at 22:34
They could easily build in the same way that they went into Wrestlemania 12 - with both Michaels and Hart as faces and with both showing a mutual respect strained by maddening coincidence. 

They love each other but things just keep happening outside of their control...


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 29/January/2018 at 16:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc4iC-taowA

Awkward speaking country boy vs someone who struggles with English as a second language. The promos are going to be wonderful LOL

Two of the most popular guys in the whole company, so it would be a shame to have to turn one heel to make more of an emotional investment in the fued.

I suspect both will blur the lines and be in the grey area, with fans expecting one of them to turn and then the other, but it ending up neither doing so.


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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 29/January/2018 at 18:34
They need to go the NXT route with Nakamura in this build up. Don't let him speak..let it be about who is the best and leave it at that.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 29/January/2018 at 18:37
Originally posted by Baz Baz wrote:

They need to go the NXT route with Nakamura in this build up. Don't let him speak..let it be about who is the best and leave it at that.

Exactly.

This is a good call with them both being babyface. WrestleMania NEEDS to have a match (for once) where the fans are legitimately invested in seeing both guys win and getting the dueling chants. In this case chants of "AJ Styles!" "Nakamura!" both trying to drown the other out. It's a healthy environment for fans and their outlook on the show. When fans boo these days it's almost always a bad thing. Even when a heel does something really douchey in order to get a boo the boos usually don't last long and end up turning into chants of "Asshole!" or some such thing. Boos these days are bad sign in wrestling.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 30/January/2018 at 13:02
Yeah an NXT style build is the way to go here, promo work can be kept minimal and in the case of Nakamura non-existent.

Build the match as a competitive wrestling match between two top athletes rather than the traditional face/heel stuff.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 14/March/2018 at 15:05
Quote AJ Styles comes out to the ring first to kick off the show. AJ gets in the ring as fans chant his name. He says he odds were stacked against him at Fastlane, but he stilled pulled though. AJ says he hasn't forgotten where he came from, and his road to WrestleMania was a tough one. He says his match with Nakamura is a dream match, and then Nakamura comes out to interrupt. Nakamura comes down to the ring and says he respects AJ, but he will knee him in the face and take his WWE Title at WrestleMania. Rusev and Aiden English come out to interrupt next, and we've got a match.

- AJ Styles vs. Rusev: Nakamura and English are both at ringside for this one, which is a non-title match. AJ starts working over Rusev's leg early on. Rusev starts firing up and hits a lariat on AJ. AJ gets up and fires back with a dropkick, then throws Rusev out to the floor and follows up with a suicide dive. Back in the ring, AJ continues the offense until Rusev hits a cheap shot to the eyes. Rusev follows up with a spinebuster for a two count. Rusev hits a backdrop then goes up to the top turnbuckle, but AJ fights away. AJ fires up but Rusev shuts him down with a kick to the head. Rusev goes for another kick, but AJ ducks and hits the Pele kick. AJ hits a backbreaker then looks for a Styles Clash, but can't execute it. Rusev drops AJ and goes for the Accolade, but AJ reverses it into the Calf Crusher. Aiden English hits the ring and attacks AJ for the disqualification.

Winner via DQ: AJ Styles

- After the match, Rusev and Aiden beat down AJ as Nakamura watches from ringside. Nakamura finally gets up and hits the ring. He drops Aiden first, then Rusev. Nakamura leaves as AJ is still recovering.

Styles was way more heelish of the two, and so it will be interesting to see if that continues in the build up.
 
If you want your babyface champion to be cheered, you don't put him in with Rusev, who is a guy who's going to split crowd reaction.
 
Then AJ showed no thanks for being saved from a beatdown.


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 15/March/2018 at 08:10
I'm confident they'll go in face vs face, as even a heel AJ Styles is actually a face, but they'll just build up the tension considerably in the same way as they did before Wrestlemania 12.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 15/March/2018 at 14:44
Heheh WrestleKingdom 12. yah I agree. I don't see as it does anyone any good turning either of them heel. WWE needs to embrace face vs face matches, especially at huge PPV's. They NEED a pure wrestling match where the fans are going ballistic for both competitors and deafening the place with dueling chants.

"AJ Styles!"
"Nakamura!"
"AJ Styles!"
"Nakamura!"
"AJ Styles!"
"Nakamura!"

If this match gets a chant battle like that going, then whatever else happens this match is a success. That should be their goal with this match.



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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 15/March/2018 at 21:11
I really still dont see what alot of others see in Nakamura

I dont think hes that good in the ring, at all - infact he probably wouldnt even be in my top 10 or 15, he cant cut a promo in English that makes any sense, he pulls far too many faces and he hasnt really stood out to me in anyway other than having a good entrance theme.

I'd like to see AJ retain but there are strong rumors that he is off to Raw after mania so can only realy see Nakamura winning the title.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 16/March/2018 at 16:12
When you took your hiatus from TUP, we're you watching wrestling at all? I'm just curious, because you were obviously watching NXT a few months ago. But Nakamuras run in NXT was phenomenal. IMO the best run NXT has seen second only to that of Sami Zayn's in the men's division, and fourth behind Bayleys and Asuka's overall. His debut match WrestleMania weekend vs Sami Zayn was IMO the match of the year, and up there shoulder to shoulder with matches like Bret vs Perfect, and Owen vs Bulldog. They were the guys that prompted the chant of "Fight Forever!" because they didn't want the match to end.

The match between Nakamura and AJ Styles at WrestleKingdom is one I have yet to see, but apparently it was every bit as good or better depending on who you ask.

I also very much enjoyed Nakamura vs Balor in NXT. Samoa Joe was his biggest opponent, but honestly he was my least favorite of his opponents. They never really seemed to get the chemistry right.

I think maybe Nakamura might be better suited to be the big guy in the ring and isn't used to being the small one like with guys like Joe, Orton, Cena and others. Even so his match with Lesnar in Japan was pretty sweet, and I would have loved to have seen Nakamura choose Lesnar to face at Mania.

Any way you look at it Nakamura vs Styles is going to be good. Far better than the matches Nakamura has had until now on the main roster.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 16/March/2018 at 17:01
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

When you took your hiatus from TUP, we're you watching wrestling at all? I'm just curious, because you were obviously watching NXT a few months ago. But Nakamuras run in NXT was phenomenal. IMO the best run NXT has seen second only to that of Sami Zayn's in the men's division, and fourth behind Bayleys and Asuka's overall.

Yes i watched alot of wrestling and whilst i agree his NXT run was good (nothing of his comes close to the Owens Zayn feud - albeit part of that feud being so good was that Zayn waited so long for the title)- he has done NOTHING and i mean absolutely ZERO since his call up to the main roster to make any non-NXT fan think hes a good wrestler.

The positive reactions he was once getting, which he does not get so much now, were down to his flashy entrance and his role as a babyface.

His run in NXT never gets mentioned now where as the likes of Zayn, Owens and Asukas are still heavily spoken about on normal WWE tv.

Their match outside of WWE may have been incredible and may have been 5 stars plus but that again means absolutely nothing to the traditional WWE fan.

Most WWE fans avoid Jap wrestling because its really not that good.

Yes, he won the Royal Rumble but it was by no means a spectacular performance, infact i think he was barely mentioned until the final 4 segment and still to this day the stand out performer was Finn Balor.

Wrestlers can not rely on what they have done outside of WWE in order to establish themselves as a top star within the company - look at AJ Styles - he was a stand out performer as soon as he entered and has stayed that way.

Even guys like Kenny Omega - who worked with him outside of WWE - are saying his run in WWE has been dreadful, to be honest most articles you read online are all about how disappointing he has been.

Its clear to everyone that given the rise in popularity of NJPW, WWE want to appeal more to that marlet - hence the sudden push of the 2 Japs from NXT - at least Asuka has gone someway to warrant it.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 16/March/2018 at 17:52
I would agree to an extent. However my point was not that he was good there so should be loved here but rather that he was well produced elsewhere so there is no excuse for being poorly produced by WWE, who supposedly are so great in that department. Every single time a top star in NXT fails on the main roster it is an indictment of laziness and apathy on the part of the producers making the show.

Keep in mind if AJ Styles goes to Raw then that likely means Nakamura is winning.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 16/March/2018 at 21:33
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:



Keep in mind if AJ Styles goes to Raw then that likely means Nakamura is winning.

i know - thats the sad thing - it will be like a Jack Swagger type reign where he was booked all wrong but won the title.

Hopefully if he becomes champ they let him loose in terms of off the reigns a bit like he was before WWE and during his time in NXT

he shouldnt cut any promos at all neither


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 16/March/2018 at 21:59
If both Asuka & Nakamura are on Smackdown as champions it would be great if both got paired with the same manager who could cut promos on their behalf. Paul Heyman would be great for these guys as it would freshen them both up a lot turning heel, for different reasons.

Also, seriously? We need a new manager that we can suggest be paired with people. What about Bubba Ray? If he's gonna be retired, and not wrestle anymore, why not hire him to be a manager?


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 16/March/2018 at 23:03
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

If both Asuka & Nakamura are on Smackdown as champions it would be great if both got paired with the same manager who could cut promos on their behalf. Paul Heyman would be great for these guys as it would freshen them both up a lot turning heel, for different reasons.

Also, seriously? We need a new manager that we can suggest be paired with people. What about Bubba Ray? If he's gonna be retired, and not wrestle anymore, why not hire him to be a manager?

Zelina Vega - she is unbelievable in that role 


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Posted By: Dukezilla
Date Posted: 17/March/2018 at 00:23
Some bad news coming in, with AJ Styles potentially being injured. It definitely is something that could leave this match in jeopardy, but it all depends on how bad this injury turns out to be. The word from MSG is the refs threw up the X and he was limping while helped to the back.

https://twitter.com/kimberlasskick/status/974793755072106497/photo/1

I personally hope it's nothing serious.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 17/March/2018 at 03:22
Shiiiiit. That's not cool. Yah I hope things turn out ok.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 17/March/2018 at 10:41
Hopefully just a minor injury.

Me and HH are on the same page here, I’ve never been impressed with Nakamura, even in NXT sure he had some good matches but I preferred watching guys like Owens and Neville, as Heel said Owens vs Zayn in NXT was far better than Zayn vs Nakamura.

On the main roster Nakamura has been extremely disappointing, his match with Rusev at Fastlane was probably the first time since his match with Cena that I’ve enjoyed a Nakamura match, perhaps his big push at present has injected some life into him, something needs to.

His flashy entrance is fairly cool I guess but his weird dance moves and facial expressions all look a bit retarded in honesty. His promos are just horrible largely due to his lack of English.

AJ and Nakamura have to deliver a classic match at Wrestlemania, anything less will be deemed a failure and will just do further damage to Nakamura’s reputation. If he cannot produce a great match with someone of AJ’s calibre then as far as I’m concerned it will prove he cannot work the WWE style successfully.

Also as #Heel said whatever Nakamura has achieved in Japan means nothing to me as I’m a WWE fan, he may have produced five star classics in Japan but I’ve never seen them or likely to watch them so I’m only interested in what he can do under the WWE banner.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 19/March/2018 at 19:04
Quote  An ongoing injury issue limited AJ Styles to a fleeting role in WWE's Madison Square Garden show this weekend.

According to  https://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=116186" rel="nofollow - PWInsider , the reigning WWE Champion was originally scheduled to compete in tag team action. Instead, he appeared in a non-wrestling capacity, saving Shinsuke Nakamura from a beat-down by Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn, who had kayfabe "injured" AJ before the opening bell.

The website is reporting that company doctors will examine him backstage at tonight's episode of Raw. The nature of the issue has not yet been disclosed, although KO and Zayn were said to have targeted his knee during their ambush.

With less than three weeks go until WrestleMania, any issue that requires a lengthy recovery period would obviously throw a huge spanner in WWE plans. The Phenomenal One is set to compete against the aforementioned Shinsuke Nakamura in one of the event's marquee matches, a meeting fans have been clamouring to see for years.

Even if he does get the all-clear, there will of course be concerns that his getting hurt so close to the show could see him take to the ring at less than 100%. As we saw last year with Seth Rollins, this may keep him from reaching the standards of which he is typically expected.

This really would be a huge spanner in the works if AJ is either unable to compete or has to perform when he is not 100%. He is the one person that makes this match watchable to me and to many others this is a dream match that could potentially be ruined.

If he was to be injured, i wonder how they would approach it - i wonder if they would have him drop the title in the build up to mania or if they will have a really short match (not quite the Kane v Chavo 11 second epic or the Sheamus Bryan 18 second marathon but something close to a few minutes with Nakamura getting either a squash or help from KO and Zayn) 


Edit: By the way i've just watched the video of Sheamus v Bryan at WrestleMania 28 and i think that Aj Lee was at her hottest at this point - wow



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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 20/March/2018 at 08:38
It's AJ Styles; he won't miss Wrestlemania. Even if his leg was hanging off Psycho Sid style he's still going for that springboard 450. 

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 21/March/2018 at 18:46
The more i see of this and the way AJ spoke to Nakamura backstage, part of me is thinking that at Mania Styles will retain and then Asuka will beat Charlotte.

However, knowing WWE logic, Charlotte will beat Asuka because shes losing to Natalya etc on TV weeks before the big event (plus the Flair name probably comes with demands to end her streak)

Nakamura is being booked super strong going in to Mania and Charlotte being booked not so strong so its making me wonder if we will infact see both SD titles change hands.

On the leaked image i posted a while back they were confident that AJ was going to Raw and Charlotte was staying put so who knows


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Posted By: canadianglen
Date Posted: 21/March/2018 at 19:34
Agree AJ will go under any circumstance except company physically keeping him out of the ring. Previous main event between them, WK 10, gives solid indication they can sell. Match choreography may be altered, but that's all I see, result (whatever it is) will not change.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 25/March/2018 at 10:34
Quote WWE champion AJ Styles, who is battling an unspecified injury and has missed several house shows the last two weeks, was back in action last night in Trenton, NJ. Competing in a multi-person match, Styles won the match but reportedly only worked the last two or three minutes.
 
Not a lot of minutes, but a very positive sign that he will be alright for Wrestlemania.
 
They wouldn't risk him at a house show if they had any doubt to think it would ruin their Smackdown main event.
 
I wouldn't have him wrestle on TV until Wrestlemania to build anticipation and to rest his injury. I would do the same with Nakamura too.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 28/March/2018 at 18:47
I gotta say I liked how this storyline ended this week on Smackdown. Having Nakamura go so far as to deliver the knee to AJ Styles and then pull up short just to show Styles that he could have hit him if he had wanted to was good storytelling IMO. Better than actually hitting him with it. 

I know this feud has it's detractors, but I for one am very much looking forward to this match, and IMO is the legit main event of the show, and it'll be just about the first time since, perhaps Hitman vs HBK in an iron man match that WrestleMania's WWE championship match is also the best looking WRESTLING match on the card.

If you were to remove The Miz from Balor vs Rollins, and Balor vs Rollins is a legit contender for the best looking wrestling match on the card. Likewise if you remove Kevin Owens & Shane McMahon from their respective match, then Sami Zayn vs Daniel Bryan is an even better looking wrestling match than Nakamura vs AJ Styles. But as it is, there isn't a single match on the card that is likely to give us a better clinic of what technical wrestling is supposed to be than the WWE Championship match, and I give high marks to WWE for sticking to that.

That said, Asuka vs Charlotte may still steal the show as best pure wrestling match of the night.

As far as the spectacle and most talked about match of the night is concerned, I'm going with either Rousey & Angle vs the Authority, or Reigns vs Lesnar, or even Cena Taker. 


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 29/March/2018 at 18:52
I think all of the matches on the card are looking good in some capacity.

Asuka v Charlotte could be something epic but im also looking forward to the IC title match and also the Tag Team match ... not to mention Brock v Reigns simply based on the storyline.

Nakamura v Styles could be fantastic but its just something that im not that interested in seeing - im still nowhere near sold on Nakamura - i think he's bland, repetetive and hes not even that good in the ring.

I can't see it but i really hope Styles retains and Nakamura goes back to Japan.

Maybe a heel turn could work for Nakamura, i dont know but hes one the least interesting on the current SD roster


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Posted By: canadianglen
Date Posted: 31/March/2018 at 02:46
Nakamura will not be leaving the company. No matter what the WM storyline is. It's been less than 3 years since they had a main event together and there will be a couple spots not seen by WWE fans before. don't know who wins, but I guess that depends on if AJ goes to Mondays.

The Goldberg Program is not complete until winning the belt. Asuka will become champ.

the triple threat tag match could be insane. I'm happy with anyone but New Day.

US title... need to see the go home show for any hints


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 31/March/2018 at 11:31
According to reports, Styles injury is related to his MCL - which is the same injury that Rollins picked up in the February before Mania 33. Rollins was also able to compete and he actually won the match v HHH.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 09/April/2018 at 16:35
A reasonable match but not the classic people wanted, it didn't have me gripped like a five star classic should, not even close.

It was a well worked exchange of technical wrestling but it lacked the thrills and spills and big spots that you would expect of a match of this magnitude, especially with all the hype. It didn't help that it was placed on the card at a point where with the pre-show viewers had sat through nearly six hours of wrestling and were probably feeling exhausted by it all, this match would have been better served going on earlier then WWE should have run a selection of cool down matches. I maintain what I've always said, Nakamura has been a flop on the main roster, his style doesn't mesh well and he has failed to deliver in the ring and his promos are terrible.

The most interesting thing about this was Nakamura turning heel, I just hope the new direction for his character can improve his all around act. Styles winning was a surprise, I really thought he would do the job then switch to Raw.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 10/April/2018 at 11:36
Quote WWE Title Match: AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura: They ock up off the opening bell and then break apart. Both men are hesitant early on, until AJ is able to latch on to NAkamura and hit a suplex. Nakamura kicks AJ away, and then they get tangled up in the ropes and the ref pulls them apart. Nakamura comes back with a kick and a knee drop. Nakamura goes to stomp on Styles in the corner, but AJ breaks free. AJ connects with a knee to the face of Nakamura and drops him. AJ follows up with a snap suplex on Nakamura for a two count. Nakamura starts fighting back, but AJ stuns him and hits a side walk slam. AJ follows up with kicks and tries to keep Nakamura grounded. They fight out to the apron and Nakamura hits a kick to the face of AJ. Back in the ring, Nakamura connects with more kicks and a flying boot off the middle rope. Nakamura tells AJ to bring it, and Nakamura unloads with kicks again. Nakamura hits a splash in the corner and then a knee strike for a two count. Nakamura follows up with a reverse suplex, and AJ comes back with a facebuster. AJ hits a flying lariat in the corner, then a running forearm shot on the mat for a two count. After a brief back-and-forth, AJ connects with a pumphandle gut buster. Nakamura sends AJ to the apron and AJ looks for the Phenomenal Forearm, but Nakamura catches him and hits a Death Valley Driver for a two count. They trade strikes until AJ latches on to Nakamura and locks in the calf crusher. Nakamura fights out and looks for a triangle choke, but AJ hits him with a Fisherman’s brainbuster. AJ goes to pick him up, and Nakamura hits a spinning heel kick. Nakamura goes for a running knee in the corner, but AJ ducks and Nakamura hits the turnbuckle. AJ follows up with a Phenomnal Forearm for a two count. AJ goes for a springboard 450 but Nakamura gets the knees up to block it and pins for a two count. AJ and Nakamura start trading stiff forearm shots to the face in the middle of the ring. They’re throwing stiff punches and Nakamura looks hurt. Nakamura comes back with some shots, but AJ stuns him with a Pele kick. Nakamura answers with a knee to the back of the head for a two count. Nakamura looks for the Kinshasa, but AJ rolls through and hits Nakamura with the Styles Clash for the three count.

Winner & still WWE Champion: AJ Styles

– We go to replays and then see AJ celebrating with his win and then helping Nakamura to his feet. They hug in the ring before leaving. Nakamura takes the WWE Title belt from the ref, and he gets on one knee and hands it to AJ. AJ takes the belt and goes to hug Nakamura, but Nakamura hits AJ with a low-blow instead. Nakamura beats down AJ now and repeatedly stomps on his head as the crowd boos. Nakamura beats AJ out of the ring, then stomps on him at ringside and hits the Kinshasa on him on the floor before leaving.

Match of the night. I think because the show was dragging they had minutes cut, so it felt more rushed. But it was still fantastic, especially as AJ isn't 100%.
 
Loved the Nakamura entrance. Finally he looked like the rock star they keep calling him.
 
Soon as they hugged I was waiting for who was going heel, as they had been too many sporting ends to matches so someone at some point had to be different.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 10/April/2018 at 19:04
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:


Match of the night. 

Fuck.Right.Off

Was one of the worst matches ive seen at a Mania event after all of the build and hype it received.

Given the amount of squashes on the card, the match had plenty of time allocated - they just did not deliver - simple as that.

I was talking to the guys on here during the event and looking on the likes of twitter and other wrestling boards and everyone was saying how disappointed they were with the match - it was simply awful.

What the match did do was expose Nakamura for what ive been saying he is for the last few months - average and boring.

The heel turn at the end might be the only thing that can get fans fully invested in him because they were dead as doornails during the match and we all know thats not down to Styles because he can normally get a good match out of anyone


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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 10/April/2018 at 20:57
I have to agree with heel this match was a dud I don't know how there matches in new Japan were but I doubt it was anything like what we saw at mania.

These two need to take a good look at themselves and ask is that the best they could do and if not then they need to do better.



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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 10/April/2018 at 21:07
"What the match did do was expose Nakamura for what ive been saying he is for the last few months - average and boring."

The fuck it did. If it exposed Nakamura as average and boring then it did the exact same thing to AJ Styles. You look at Nakamura's body of work throughout his career and only on the WWE main roster does it look plain. Why? I have no fucking clue, but in NXT is was great. In Japan is was great. Everywhere else Nakamura is outstanding.

Yes the match was a complete let down, but unless WWE is crippling Nakamura's moveset or playcalling in the ring, there's no good explanation for it being so vanilla.

Nakamura had not 1, not 2, but 3 match of the year candidates in 2016. There is no fucking way in hell an average or boring wrestler pulls that off.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 10/April/2018 at 22:32
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

"What the match did do was expose Nakamura for what ive been saying he is for the last few months - average and boring."

The fuck it did. If it exposed Nakamura as average and boring then it did the exact same thing to AJ Styles. You look at Nakamura's body of work throughout his career and only on the WWE main roster does it look plain. Why? I have no fucking clue, but in NXT is was great. In Japan is was great. Everywhere else Nakamura is outstanding.

Yes the match was a complete let down, but unless WWE is crippling Nakamura's moveset or playcalling in the ring, there's no good explanation for it being so vanilla.

Nakamura had not 1, not 2, but 3 match of the year candidates in 2016. There is no fucking way in hell an average or boring wrestler pulls that off.

Maybe you're right but as I have not seen his work from Japan and outside of WWE I have to agree with the majority here, he is overrated and boring. In NXT he was better but his Japanese style of throw a million kicks and call it strong style doesn't really do it for me.

AJ has proved time and time again both outside of WWE and in WWE that he is one of the worlds best in-ring performers, if not the best, he may have been hampered by a injury here but I lay more of the blame on Nakamura given he has yet to have one match on the WWE main roster that I would call more than average, Styles has had countless classics.

As for anybody saying this was Wrestlemania match of the night I would say Asuka/Charlotte, Lesnar/Reigns, Bryan and Shane/Owens and Zayn, Balor/Miz/Rollins and definitely Rousey and Angle/Triple H and Stephanie were better matches.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 10/April/2018 at 22:42
100% agree with Fletch here.

Taking NXT out if it as we have all discussed several times the differences between that and the main roster, nakamura has done nothing of any note match wise in WWE.

He was pushed to the moon when he first debuted and then did nothing once he got there.

A period of time later he won the rumble and then spent a while off tv.

His entrance music is cool and flashy but he spends more time rolling around and pulling daft faces than he does putting on quality matches in the wwe.

He does not have a promo ability to fall back on so literally, at this moment, offers nothing.

His strong style shit has limited his moveset massively - look at punk,bryan,black,Asuka - all of which are known for striking and they are all entertaining and still have Lot of variation in their movesets.

Your comment on styles is one of the most mental things ive ever seen - he has without a doubt been the best wrestler in WWE since he debuted and has always been cinsidered one of the best in the world.

Nakamura at this minute is basically Tajiri without the green mist.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 10/April/2018 at 23:50
Go back and read what I said about AJ Styles, I never said that he's average and boring, only that IF Nakamura is, then so is AJ Styles.

And as I have demonstrated a million times over a wrestler that does well elsewhere, and then also in NXT but not on the main roster proves there is something seriously wrong with the production team on the main roster.

Why do you think Brock Lesnar successfully defends his title at WrestleMania and then goes backstage and picks a fight with Vince because the match sucks? If that were on Lesnar or Reigns don't you think he'd take a different stance? No, he picked the fight with Vince because he's the directing the action during rehearsals. The fans turned on Brock and Brock got pissed and took it straight to Vince. I don't fucking blame him!

This is getting ridiculous, people need to get it through their heads that just because a wrestler does poorly on the main roster does not mean they're not great at all aspects of their job. 

WWE has failed for as long as I've been alive, if not longer at making stars look good if Vince doesn't care for them. Whether it's WCW guys, NJPW from the 80's and 90's, AWA, TNA, ROH, it doesn't matter, WWE is absolute dogshit at promoting someone they don't understand.

WWE failed Dusty fucking Rhodes! Do you think he's over-rated and boring? His time in WWE was a fucking joke! The difference between the polka dotted dancer & "Hard Times" is night and day. It never changes, and it's been that way for decades. I just don't understand how ANYONE could not see this by now. By now it's axiomatic. If they're not one of 'Vince's boys' they don't get titles, they DO get hamstrung, they don't get the A-team writing and booking. They get next to nothing, and when they don't get over like someone who gets a rocket strapped to their back and all the energy of the WWE behind them because they're one of "Vince's guys" they're summarily dismissed. I mean seriously? Who thought it was a good idea to give Nakamura a microphone instead of a manager!? It's not rocket science!

Look at Sami Zayn! He's one of the best babyfaces WWE has ever had... in NXT, but as soon as he comes up to the main roster they have everyone on commentary crapping all over him, the heels, the faces, everyone, and the booking is lackluster, as if the whole things is half-assed, and when he gets a half-assed reaction as a result suddenly we're supposed to believe that Zayn was never actually good in NXT or in the independents? REALLY? Dude! That's mental.

Nakamura has charisma greater than just about anyone in the WWE, his match quality is fantastic, his psychology is masterful, so if he's not doing well on the main roster what does that tell you???

Listen, I know I sound like a jerk, and I AM more than a little annoyed here so I apologize for that, but WWE has really been pissing me off when it comes to guys like Nakamura & Zayn & Bayley, & The Ascension, and now Authors of Pain. But HEY! We get Bobby Fucking Lashley! Yay! Because he's interesting...

Couple that with the way people crap on Ronda Rousey before they've even seen her wrestle and the result is that the fans are just grating on my every last nerve. So I seriously do mean it when I say I'm sorry for venting on you guys like that because you're infinitely better than the mindless WWE sheep I find elsewhere online, but I'm really about to just give up on wrestling all together at this point. It's like we're back to November of last year and we're only 2 days after Mania. WWE just doesn't get it through their heads how to deal with some of the people who could potentially be their biggest stars. There's the system, and if they're a square peg trying to fit into WWE's round hole (that sounds gross) they just force it (and now it's even worse) and the results are embarrassing (that's what she said). 


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 02/May/2018 at 22:04
Quote Back from commercial break, Renee Young is in the ring for an interview with WWE Champion AJ Styles. AJ comes down to the ring as the Montreal crowd chants his name. She asks AJ about the No DQ stipulation being added to his match with Nakamura on Sunday, and says this is a benefit to Nakamura because he's a con artist and a cheat. AJ brushes off Nakamura's demand for an apology, and says he should have left Nakamura in the desert eating sand. AJ calls Nakamura a coward who attacks from behind and below the belt. AJ says he knows how to break rules too, and says we'll be finding pieces of Nakamura all over the place on Sunday night. Renee asks about Nakamura's demand for an apology again, and AJ says if he wants one he should come out and get one. Samoa Joe's music hits and Joe comes out to interrupt.

Samoa Joe comes down and gets the pop from the crowd. Joe talks trash to AJ about losing his focus, and says he needs to focus on Joe coming for him. Joe says after he beats Reigns at Backlash, his sights are set on the WWE Championship. Joe's music hits, but then Nakamura's music hits to interrupt. Joe looks behind him on the stage, but no one is there. Nakamura comes out of nowhere into the ring from behind and hits another low-blow on AJ.

Nakamura waits for AJ to get up, then starts taunting AJ. Nakamura hits the Kinshasa on the Champion, and then grabs AJ's WWE Title and holds it up. Nakamura drops the belt on AJ and walks off.

As heelish as Sinister Shin was, I would say the crowd reaction was split quite 50/50.
 
I think all these low blows are setting up AJ to retain with a low blow of his own, now it's no DQ.
 
It's too obvious for the heel to win the title just because it's a no DQ contest and he can be really heelish to win the title.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 03/May/2018 at 20:07
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:


As heelish as Sinister Shin was, I would say the crowd reaction was split quite 50/50.
 
I think all these low blows are setting up AJ to retain with a low blow of his own, now it's no DQ.
 
It's too obvious for the heel to win the title just because it's a no DQ contest and he can be really heelish to win the title.

trying to steal my idea from The Backlash thread like?

Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

I am almost 100% confident that AJ Styles will win after hitting Nakamura with a low blow.

There are so many heel tactics that can be used there has been excessive focus on that one particular move it really cant finish any other way


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 07/May/2018 at 15:57
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

trying to steal my idea from The Backlash thread like?
 
The alternative they could have done is have AJ wear a cricket box, Nakamura does the low blow and Styles just laughs at him because it's having no affect at all.
 
Quote AJ Styles (c) vs. Shinsuke Nakamura: This one is a No DQ match with AJ’s World Title is on the line in this one. Nakamura gets in AJ’s face before the match, and the ref pulls them apart for the official ring introductions. The opening bell sounds and AJ immediately pulls Nakamura outside and repeatedly slams him into the fan barricade. Back in the ring, AJ continues the beat down and hits a backbreaker on Nakamura. Nakamura starts firing back with strikes. Nakamura dodges one dropkick from AJ, but AJ connects with the second dropkick. The fight spills outside again and they brawl on the entrance ramp. Nakamura whips AJ into the ring steps, then takes him back in the ring. Nakamura hits several knees to the head and AJ falls down to the floor. Back in the ring, Nakamura stomps on AJ and hits the vibrations in the corner. Nakamura follows up with a knee drop for a two count. Styles gets back up to his face, but Nakamura drops him again with a flying kick to the face. Nakamura beats down AJ around the ringside area now and whips him into the fan barricade. Back in the ring, AJ looks to springboard off the top, but Nakamura stops him and hits a running knee. Nakamura comes off the middle rope with a knee to the face, then he hits a powerbomb for a two count. Nakamura stomps on AJ’s head in the corner, then taunts him. Nakamura walks outside and grabs a steel chair. He brings the chair in the ring and swings, but AJ ducks. AJ blocks several strikes from Nakamura, but Nakamura finally connects with a boot to the face. Nakamura back suplexes AJ on the steel chair laying on the mat. Nakamura sets up in the corner and he charges forward for a Kinshasa, but AJ throws the steel chair at Nakamura to stop him. The chair hits Nakamura’s knee, but bounces off and the chair nails AJ right in the face. AJ is now bleeding from the face. Nakamura hits a kick and both men are down. AJ comes back with the Calf Crusher, but Nakamura escapes. AJ looks for a Styles Clash, but Nakamura escapes and rolls outside. AJ looks for a suicide dive, but Nakamura rolls in the ring to avoid it. AJ grabs Nakamura and hits a suplex into a neckbreaker. Nakamura misses a punch and AJ answers with a Pele kick. Nakamura comes back with a low blow, and AJ answers with a low blow of his own. AJ and Nakamura get to their feet and start trading punches now. Nakamura throws a headbutt, and then they both kick each other in the groin at the exact same, and both men are down. The referee counts, and both men are down for the ten count. The referee counts them both out, so AJ retains the World Title.

Winner: n/a

– AJ Styles recovers at ringside with his WWE Title and gets assisted walking to the back.

Creative continue to be scared of having heel Nak lose a title match.
 
Not sure what kind of match they will think up next. Maybe a ball sack on a pole match is the only way to end this low blow fued.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 07/May/2018 at 17:49
Who booked this shit? They should be fired.

This match was actually going well and then it was all thrown away for this. This is a perfect example of why the finish of a match DOES count towards the quality of the match.

I'm actually in favor of draws every now and again, especially on TV but this was the third match between the two, and come on. This was just stupid.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 07/May/2018 at 18:51
The match wasnt going badly but i have 2 major problems here ...


1) All of these Jap wrestling loving fans online all over and even the WWE themselves billed the match at Mania in particularly as a Dream Match - we have seen absolutely nothing between the 2 of them, in any match, that would indicate that this is infact a dream match. The in-ring stuff has disappointed on so many levels.

Last night looked like they may be given the time to put that right and finally have that blockbuster - which would have stood out even more on such a shit card, however this leads me to number 2

2) The finishes of the matches. Why can they not have a clean win either way - both of these guys are in a position where a clean loss isnt really going to impact them to such a huge detriment. Infact if AJ lost clean then people would have forgot about it by the time the next weeks episode of Smackdown aired because he is THAT good.

Nakamura could have lost clean and got some retribution in an attack or something else heelish.

Now we are going into major match number 3 and this is where we will probably get a decisive finish - with Nakamura taking the title - the thing is though then AJ gets his rematch which means this feud will have been going on in some capacity for 6 months.

I dont mind long term feuds but they need to be balanced and have wins either side to keep things interesting - false finishes and absolute bullshit like having a double count out in a fucking no disqualification match is just ridiculous and makes people care less about the feud overall.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 07/May/2018 at 19:45

This needs to be put here, and I hope it doesn't get taken down by youtube anytime soon.

THIS is what we should have gotten at WrestleMania, and THIS is what should have been one-upped on since then. Instead what we got was utter trash by comparison. People are saying that this latest match is their best outing thus far (in the WWE) but if you have last night's match fresh in your mind and then watch this you can clearly see that the best spots from last nights match came directly from this one, and this one went much further still.

Listen to how the commentators go about their job, even if it's all in Japanese you can hear a real cadence to it, and how they build in excitement as the match progresses and during the rises and falls of the exchanges. They treat it like a sport from every different aspect possible, not just entertainment.

Listen to sound the mat makes when they get slammed onto it. It echoes through the area.

Listen to the crowd. This is what a crowd should sound like. They're quite and respectful when appropriate, yet vocal and into it at the same time. They play their own part in the match and don't go into business for themselves trying to BE the show, or distract from the action in the ring. I LOVE that they clap when a wrestler reaches the ropes.

WWE have yet to deliver action better than what NJPW fans saw in the first 15 minutes of their wrestlekingdom match. The last 10 minutes are far better still.

Nakamura and Styles are far better together than what we've seen thus far in the WWE. This match here is a worthy match for WrestleMania, and what's more, in three years time these two who are still solidly in their prime are more than capable of doing even better.

Nakamura the man deserves a main event spot, but his character hasn't been living up to it, and I SERIOUSLY doubt that's his fault. AJ Styles hasn't even been good in this feud, and I seriously doubt anyone blames him, even though if they're gonna blame Nakamura then they should be blaming Styles, too.

Where the blame should be laid is at the feet of the people holding these two back, who are telling them: "Hey! You know what the finish should be to your match at Backlash? A double kick to the nuts and a failure to stand up and meet the 10 count!" Those are the people that should be blamed. The ones shackling these two and preventing them from putting on an instant classic.

Seriously, skip to about 10-12 minutes in and just watch the bell-to-bell on their wrestlekingdom match. You can see how things have DEvolved for them in the WWE.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 07/May/2018 at 22:11
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

I'm actually in favor of draws every now and again,
 
You'd make an excellent cricket fan where a test match can last for five days (playing times roughly 11-1, 140-340, 400-630/700) and still can end in a draw LOL
 
Quote It was noted over the weekend that the AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura match was originally pencilled in as the main event of last night's WWE Backlash PPV. The reason this was switched up and the match did not end the show is because of the way the finish was booked. With the fact that neither wrestler was able to get up before the referee's ten count, WWE did not want to end the PPV on that note and so the order of matches was shuffled around.
 
That makes sense. Having a PPV go off air with a shoddy draw finish would have been bad booking.
 
The crowd let their feelings be known and it's probably damaged AJ because he's struggling to put away his heel challenger.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 08/May/2018 at 04:44
Yeah would have been a awful PPV finish so it was the right call with the match order.

By far the best match in their series so far, Nakamura is excellent as a heel and hopefully the next match will be even better, I'm guessing it will be some sort of gimmick match.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 13/May/2018 at 22:41
Quote AJ Styles and Shinsuke Nakamura are likely headed for another match, with a stipulation this time. According to the latest Wrestling Observer Newsletter, a "Last Man Standing" match has been discussed.
 
That makes sense when you think that the last match between them neither were standing.
 
If the same situation is booked again, both can stay down a couple of minutes if they want and the ref can't stop it.
 
I hope the next time they face eachother is the last time, as we don't want to get sick of seeing them against eachother by it happening too often.


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Posted By: 4 of em
Date Posted: 13/May/2018 at 23:03
This feud is getting as boring as Roman and Brock. This double count out or double DQ or no decision is stale. They need to move on from this ridiculous feud and give us something with more substance. At first, this was something really special at mania but now how lost its bling. Shinsuke could make a decent heel, but he is so well over it's hard to cheer against him. The real heels of the day are the ones WWE try to push on the fans a faces. Ex. Roman or Jason Jordan.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 14/May/2018 at 19:07
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Quote AJ Styles and Shinsuke Nakamura are likely headed for another match, with a stipulation this time. According to the latest Wrestling Observer Newsletter, a "Last Man Standing" match has been discussed.
 
That makes sense when you think that the last match between them neither were standing.
 
If the same situation is booked again, both can stay down a couple of minutes if they want and the ref can't stop it.
 
I hope the next time they face eachother is the last time, as we don't want to get sick of seeing them against eachother by it happening too often.

Yeah im not sure how this stipulation helps any, given as you said, in their last match the same outcome would have been entirely possible in a last man standing match.

They need to have the stipulation as no holds barred - there must be a winner or something written out as clearly so people know theres going to be a finish.

To be honest draws every now and then arent a bad thing it just so happens thst with this particular feud, people have been let down far too often already that it just didnt seem liek the right thing to do.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 14/May/2018 at 19:17
Couldn't agree more there. I'm fine with a draw, but 1: I really do not want to be surprised by the finish, and 2: I don't want it to occur during a match where it already seems like something like that just shouldn't happen, even if technically it can. 3: I also really wouldn't want to see it happen at a PPV except in very specific circumstances. Leave the draws for Raw/Smackdown.

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Posted By: 4 of em
Date Posted: 16/May/2018 at 01:56
So again, these 2 having a match to decide what kinda match they will have. This will be maybe the 4th or 5th in a row ? Well , why not I mean Brock and Roman will wrestle again why not these 2. Sad though, AJ is now only recognized as WWE champion , when before the joke of the Universal Title he was the WWE World Heavyweight Champion.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 16/May/2018 at 14:27
Originally posted by 4 of em 4 of em wrote:

So again, these 2 having a match to decide what kinda match they will have. This will be maybe the 4th or 5th in a row ? Well , why not I mean Brock and Roman will wrestle again why not these 2. Sad though, AJ is now only recognized as WWE champion , when before the joke of the Universal Title he was the WWE World Heavyweight Champion.
 
It's overkill. Roman Reigns got robbed of the title at the Oil Rumble, but can't get another title shot. Nakamura is I think 0 and 5 in title matches since Summerslam and he's got a sixth shot at becoming champion.
 
Quote Renee Young interviewed AJ Styles on the interview set. She asked what stipulation he would choose if he beats Nakamura. Styles said it’s when not if he picks the stipulation match. He said it could be an inverted scaffold match or a pole on a pole match or bullrope, Hell in a Cell, inferno match. Young asked if that’s the one where the referees dress up as Elvis. Styles told her she’s being silly. He said no matter what he chooses the con artist Nakamura will be the only one who isn’t entertained. He said Nakamura may have forgotten how to speak English, but forearm to the face is universal…
 

Shinsuke Nakamura and AJ Styles made their entrances for the main event… [C]

4. AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura for the right to choose the stipulation to their WWE Championship match at WWE Money in the Bank. Phillips noted that it was the first time Styles and Nakamura had met in a singles match on Smackdown. He also claimed the match headlined WrestleMania 34.

Styles connected with an early forearm over the top rope and onto Nakamura at ringside. Nakamura came back with a nice kick on the apron and followed up with a running knee. [C] Nakamura remained on the offensive coming out of the break. Styles started to fight back, but Nakamura put him down with a running kick to the face that led to a two count. There were dueling chants for the wrestlers. At 11:20, Styles connected with a Pele Kick that knocked Nakamura off the ropes.

Late in the match, Nakamura set up for his finisher, but Styles rolled him into a Styles Clash set up. Nakamura kicked free, but Styles hoisted up Nakamura and dropped him onto his knee and covered him for a two count. Nakamura connected with a Kinshasa and only got a two count. Nakamura acted shocked. Nakamura lined for another, but Styles caught him with a heel kick. Styles went for a Phenomenal Forearm, but Nakamura ducked it and Styles sopped short of hitting the referee. Nakamura acted like Styles hit him below the belt while the ref wasn’t looking. Styles disputed it and then Nakamura performed a reverse exploder and hit another Kinshasa for the win…

Shinsuke Nakamura defeated AJ Styles in 17:35 to earn the right to choose the stipulation for the WWE Championship match at WWE Money in the Bank.

The broadcast team questioned what stipulation Nakamura will choose as he was celebrating to close the show…

The heel picking the stipulation makes sense, as it's heelish.
 
Now if he doesn't win the title it's got to be the end of the fued.


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Posted By: 4 of em
Date Posted: 16/May/2018 at 15:55
Yeah I agree on both. It’s overkill and if Shinsuke doesn’t win its time to move on.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 16/May/2018 at 19:29
I liked his backstage interview on Smackdown this week but i am in agreement that we are getting a bit overkill - these 2 should have been kept apart until the PPV.

There were other ways to determine who picked the stipulation - such as beat the clock matches.

I kind of want Heel Nakamura as champion but then if he wins we will get yet another match between the 2 so im not sure how this one is going to go


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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 17/May/2018 at 01:29
I'm all for their match at money in the bank being the last one between them for a while.

How is it the best match they've had in WWE is on smackdown seriously this kind of effort should been on at WrestleMania.

Really hoping for either a street fight or a last man standing match to end this anything else would be a waste.

I also don't want to see Shinskue as champion I just don't think he'd be a good one for the WWE he still looks like he's going through the motions and I'm probably one of the only ones who's not a fan of his heel character.

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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 21/May/2018 at 08:57
Having Nakamura win on Smackdown clean makes it pretty certain that Styles will be retaining the title. 

Remember how mixed brand PPVs were supposed to stop repetitive match ups that go 50 50 and never actually go anywhere?

Roll on Styles vs Joe.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 23/May/2018 at 13:34
Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

Having Nakamura win on Smackdown clean makes it pretty certain that Styles will be retaining the title. 
 
Especially as Nakamura laid out Styles just as the match stipulation needs to be done.
 
Quote Renee Young is in the ring and she introduces WWE Champion AJ Styles, and then she introduces Shinsuke Nakamura, who will face him at Money In The Bank. Renee tells Nakamura he's earned the right to pick the stipulation for their match, and AJ interrupts and demands that Nakamura names the stipulation now. Nakamura tells AJ to relex and remember why he gets the choose the stipulation, and he shows a replay on the big screen of him beating AJ last week. AJ tells him to enjoy it, because it'll never happen again. Nakamura tells AJ to be quiet, and says he won't just beat AJ, he will dishonor him, and AJ will never recover. Nakamura says the stipulation at Money In The Bank will be a "pillow fight." Nakamura laughs, and AJ tells Nakamura he must be the "king of soft style." Nakamura repeats that he's going to deliver the knee to AJ's face, and AJ says he doesn't care what the stipulation is, because Nakamura can't beat him without cheap shots. Nakamura goes to throw a right hand, but AJ blocks it and drops Nakamura with a right hand of his own. They brawl out to ringside and AJ throws Nakamura into the timekeeper's area. Nakamura swings a steel chair and misses, and AJ throws him into the crowd. AJ throws him back to ringside, and then leaps off the fan barricade, but Nakamura smacks him out of mid-air with the steel chair. Nakamura hits a knee to the body of AJ, and then he slams him onto the announce table. Nakamura hits hthe Kinshasa on AJ on the floor, and AJ is down. Nakamura counts to ten as AJ lays at ringside. Nakamura grabs a mic and says "last man standing."
 
The stipulation has been obvious for weeks, but I did laugh when Nakamura first picked a pillow fight LOL
 
If that had been legit I would have been strangely intrigued to see how two of the best wrestlers could make it work LOL


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 23/May/2018 at 17:52
Nakamura picking Pillow Fight was very funny - he has been far far better in every way since the heel turn.

As expected its a Last Man Standing which i expect Style to retain


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 24/May/2018 at 08:03
Yeah after the double count out at Backlash I literally tweeted "Have they announced the Last Man Standing match yet?"

Sometimes, like with this match or the Punjabi Prison match, anyone who watches wrestling can put the pieces together. Should be a good match.

Shinsuke has developed really well from this feud and even though he's going to fall down the pecking order of top heel for a while I'm very happy with how he's been used.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 27/May/2018 at 22:07
Quote During a recent edition of https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wrestling-observer" rel="nofollow - Wrestling Observer Radio, reporter Bryan Alvarez discussed the Last Man Standing match between AJ Styles and https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/shinsuke-nakamura" rel="nofollow - Shinsuke Nakamura at the https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wwe-money-in-the-bank" rel="nofollow - WWE Money in the Bank pay-per-view event.

According to Alvarez, the match may end in similar fashion to the one at the https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wwe-backlash" rel="nofollow - WWE Backlash pay-per-view event, with a double low-blow. However, AJ Styles would get up, revealing that he was wearing a cup, and beating Nakamura.

Of course, this is just speculation as of now and should be taken with a grain of salt.

I'm all for that finish. AJ goes down with Nakamura selling the low blow.
 
It gets to a 8 or 9 count and AJ flips from his back, back to his feet HBK style and starts pointing and laughing at Nakamura as if to say I tricked you.
 
AJ announced as the winner, Nakamura looking confused as to why AJ is OK whilst he's holding his groin, only for Styles to remove the protective cup and chuck it at him.


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Posted By: 4 of em
Date Posted: 29/May/2018 at 01:33
In a word for this feud for me.......... yawn

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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 01/June/2018 at 20:00
Don't worry, it looks like this will be the last match between them for a while. Nakamura will move on to a lower down face like Hardy or Bryan. 

It's a shame they don't get to main event a PPV but Reigns vs Mahal is much more important than the WWE title


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 01/June/2018 at 22:52
Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

Don't worry, it looks like this will be the last match between them for a while. Nakamura will move on to a lower down face like Hardy or Bryan. 

It's a shame they don't get to main event a PPV but Reigns vs Mahal is much more important than the WWE title

Id expect Nakamura to move onto a mid card title feud but the question is who is next for AJ?

Its too early for Almas although the matches would be insane but im not sure who else theyd move?

I think it deserves to be Miz but he doesnt seem to be even suggesting anything like that at the minute

If joe wins MITB youd still expect someone to feud with AJ in the run up to the cash in attempt


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 02/June/2018 at 01:05
I think it has to either be Joe, Miz, or Bryan. I'd be fine with any one of those.

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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 08/June/2018 at 13:27
I'd expect Samoa Joe to be Styles' next opponent. The lack of quality face competitors is why I don't see Nakamura winning.

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