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Topic: Jason Jordan On Raw
Posted By: admin
Subject: Jason Jordan On Raw
Date Posted: 26/July/2017 at 14:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHK-2QKrNKg

I would think eventually his persona is going to get more and more cocky throwing his weight around due to his dad being in charge, thus ending up a heel.

This smiley happy babyface role isn't going to get the fans behind him for too long before they turn.

Either way I just don't see him as someone who's going to be a big star.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 13/September/2017 at 10:40
Back to back weeks back to back losses but both times he's been in there with a elite WWE star and he's held his own putting in a excellent showing and carrying his end in great matches.

This is smart booking, there's no shame for Jordan in the losses and it's helping establish him as a guy who can go in the ring in a five star match. This mini-angle was definitely a rub for him.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 26/September/2017 at 15:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P698h-zVHjg

Can't say management aren't trying very hard to get him over, but it's still not working.

Getting the rub by being attached to the Hardy Boys should have guaranteed him a good response.

His in ring promo at No Mercy was very awkward too and didn't go down well with the live crowd.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 15/October/2017 at 11:38
He's great in the ring and I enjoy his matches but he's just horribly bland and I think the obviously fake ''Dad'' angle with Kurt and the bias he now gets from Angle on screen isn't helping his popularity.

A heel turn where he turns arrogant and starts bragging about being the son of Kurt is the direction they should go in.

I would actually like to see a mid-card feud between Jordan and Apollo Crewes purely for the match quality.

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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 15/October/2017 at 12:56
The heel route is the way they're obviously going, but it's going to be the long game isn't it? I'd imagine they'd give him #30 at the Rumble or something too to make it even more obvious he's getting favouritism.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 15/October/2017 at 16:56
He’s good in the ring - love his float over suplex’

Not sure how else they could go other than an arrogant heel run because he has absolutely 0 connection with the crowd

There must be a reason for the whole Dad angle and I think you guys are right - arrogant heel run with favouritism

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 08/November/2017 at 13:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpNae5bcsPo

His dad being a legend isn't getting his character good enough pops and so I suspect he will turn at Survivor Series so Smackdown win the five on five.

There is so much material he can use for his reasoning. He can rant on about Kurt not being there for him growing up, how he felt abandoned etc.

In the real world it wouldn't make sense because Kurt is trying to make it up to him and why would Jordan ruin his meal ticket when he's getting favourtism. But this is wrestling afterall.


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Posted By: ihatethatmonkee
Date Posted: 08/November/2017 at 17:27
he's good, and probably the only person to get anything good out of the Cena Reigns programme, but it's still far too early for him, he still seems very green.

my issue is that Angle and Jordan will become a team, and a heel team will be bought up to go against them for the nepotism, which is far more likely in WWE, as it would just be using Vince allowing Shane to be in main event matches just because he's his son and turning it slightly.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 14/November/2017 at 11:39
Quote Bray Wyatt vs. Jason Jordan: Jordan goes for the takedowns and leg holds right off the opening bell. Jordan wrestles Wyatt into the corner and the ref breaks them apart. Wyatt tries to play mind games with Jordan, but Jordan decks him with a dropkick. Wyatt comes back with a cheap shot and a headbutt, as Kurt Angle is shown watching backstage on a monitor. Jordan takes Wyatt back into the corner, then lifts him up and charges him into the opposite corner. Jordan backs up and hits a spear in the corner, then a suplex. Wyatt rolls outside to recover and Jordan follows. Jordan charges but Wyatt moves and Jordan crashes into the fan barrier by himself. Wyatt taunts the downed Jordan then takes him back in the ring. Wyatt is now focusing on working on Jordan's knee. Wyatt drops him and hits a running senton for a two count. The ref checks on Jordan as he continues to sell the bad knee, and Wyatt goes right back to work on it. Wyatt suplexes Jordan down and then turns upside down in the corner. Wyatt wants to his the Sister Abigail, but Jordan evades it and manages to roll up Wyatt out of nowhere for the three count.

Winner: Jason Jordan

- Kurt and Stephanie are backstage watching, and Stephanie looks impressed as they applaud Jordan's win. Before Jordan can leave the ring, Wyatt attacks him from behind and beats him down around ringside. Wyatt slams Jordan's bad knee into the ring post. We see Kurt and Stephanie backstage again, and Kurt walks off looking concerned. The fans chant "thank you Wyatt" as the ref checks on the son of Kurt Angle. Jordan tries to leave on his own, but requires help from the refs to make it backstage as the fans sing him out with "goodbye."

- Jason Jordan is backstage icing his knee, and Kurt Angle comes to check on him. Angle doesn't think Jordan can compete on Sunday, but Jordan insists. Jordan tells his father that Sunday is his big break and he needs it, and Angle looks conflicted.

After last night you've got to think his heel turn is more likely to happen this sunday.
 
His dad put him in harms way which ended with him injured, didn't bring out security to stop the beatdown and removed him from the team.
 
He isn't going to stand for that. He will be booked as a mawngy son unhappy about it all.


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Posted By: ihatethatmonkee
Date Posted: 14/November/2017 at 11:44
to be fair, it was fucking tame. he gets hit from behind, a couple more times, then has the back of his legs rammed into the ring post, and that was it.

i'd be more worried he's going to enter into a feud with either Wyatt, which will be a waste of time for Bray, or HHH, which will be dull as fuck.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 14/November/2017 at 12:56
Quote RAW GM Kurt Angle comes out to the ring and says he's made a tough decision about Jordan at Survivor Series - he has to replace him due to injury. Jordan comes out and interrupts, begging Angle to keep him in the match so he can fight alongside his father. Angle says he can't, but Jordan insists he'll be fine by Sunday. Jordan says Angle was injured when he won a gold medal, and he wants to be just like Angle. Jordan walks all the way down to the ring, then Stephanie McMahon interrupts. Stephanie says she can't believe Angle is falling or this, and demands Angle to make the announcement now. The music hits and Triple H comes out to make his return, and he comes down to the ring. Triple H gets in Angle's face and says if Angle won't make the announcement, he will. Triple H announces that he's the fifth member of Team RAW on Sunday, not Jordan. Triple H has words with Angle before turning his attention to Jordan and giving Jordan the Pedigree. Triple H heads to the back while Angle looks on in shock.
 
He sold really well how upset he was. He even produced some on the spot tears.
 
Got to annoy management that fans were chanting for a Pedigree to a guy they want over as a babyface.
 
I hope he was told he wouldn't be in the match when he got announced for it, so he knew all along what the plan was for his TV character.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 14/November/2017 at 19:30
Glad Jordans out of the match - its even more interesting now

This can help fuel the heel turn ive seen rumoured so much lately


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 17/November/2017 at 21:56
Quote Booker T recently took to his Houston sports radio show, Heated Conversations, to offer his thoughts on https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/monday-night-raw" rel="nofollow - Monday Night RAW star https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/jason-jordan" rel="nofollow - Jason Jordan . Here’s what he had to say:

“I’m not a huge fan of https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/jason-jordan" rel="nofollow - Jason Jordan or anything like that. I’m not going to hate on him or anything like that, opportunities in this business are few and far between. I’m not heeling on him, if I like you, I like you, if I don’t like you, I don’t like you. It’s that simple. To me, he has not proved himself to be a top guy on https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/monday-night-raw" rel="nofollow - Monday Night RAW . I don’t see one sign in the audience that says https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/jason-jordan" rel="nofollow - Jason Jordan is ‘my guy.’ If you ain’t got no signs out there, it tells me one thing; you ain’t that hot or people just don’t care about you. Right now, https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/jason-jordan" rel="nofollow - Jason Jordan is lukewarm.”

Booker rarely makes sense, but his reasoning for not liking him definitely doesn't.
 
He doesn't like him because he doesn't have fan signs? He can have a mind of his own unless he's going to start liking him all of a sudden if people turn up with signs for him.
 
How can he prove himself if he's not put in a position to prove himself? Booker isn't bright here.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 17/November/2017 at 23:55
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Quote Booker T recently took to his Houston sports radio show, Heated Conversations, to offer his thoughts on https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/monday-night-raw" rel="nofollow - - Jason Jordan . Here’s what he had to say:

“I’m not a huge fan of https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/jason-jordan" rel="nofollow - - Monday Night RAW . I don’t see one sign in the audience that says https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/jason-jordan" rel="nofollow - - Jason Jordan is lukewarm.”

Booker rarely makes sense, but his reasoning for not liking him definitely doesn't.
 
He doesn't like him because he doesn't have fan signs? He can have a mind of his own unless he's going to start liking him all of a sudden if people turn up with signs for him.
 
How can he prove himself if he's not put in a position to prove himself? Booker isn't bright here.

I think Booker makes perfect sense here

What i think has happened is that you have misunderstood what he is saying.

Booker is spot on with the fact that Jordan has not shown one sign that he is a top guy

The mention to the signs is clearly booker pointing out an obvious fact that no body cares about Jordan and that he hasnt connected with the audience and top guys get a reaction whether its cheers or heat - Jordan gets tumbleweed

Again he is correct with the lukewarm statement - hes getting results at the right end of the card you would want to if you were an up and coming talent but he has no real following 

I think they had hoped the dad angle would have someone got Jordan over by now and i believe the initial plans were to have him in the Survivor Series team but hasnt made the progress everyone expected - Stephanies promo on Raw saif exactly the right things - what has he actually achieved ... nothing

All of the above points towards a heel turn or change up of style/character - i think a heel turn would fit with everything thats been happening lately and they could kick start this at SS.

One way that would be guaranteed to get him the heat he needs is if he costs Raw the match and as a result gets Kurt fired


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 21/November/2017 at 16:19
Quote According to https://www.cagesideseats.com/2017/11/20/16676036/rumor-roundup-nov-20-2017-mania-plans-triple-h-shane-angle-wwe-jordan-future-mcintyre-almas-more" rel="nofollow - a report from Cageside Seats , https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/jason-jordan" rel="nofollow - Jason Jordan ’s push may be coming to an end. The site reports that Jordan’s storyline focus may be curtailed based on the https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wwe-survivor-series" rel="nofollow - WWE Survivor Series pay-per-view main event.

The speculation comes after Jordan was pulled from the https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wwe-survivor-series" rel="nofollow - WWE Survivor Series main event in favor of Triple H. According to sources, the move was seen at the time as having been done so that the RAW brand would have a last-minute change “on the level” of John Cena being added to Team SmackDown!. Of course, Triple H’s involvement in the match factored into the finish last night. The belief is that Jordan’s removal from one of WWE’s biggest pay-per-view events of the year is a sign that WWE may be holding back on his push.

It should be noted that this https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/latest/news" rel="nofollow - news should only be taken as a rumor at this point. There were previous reports that Jordan was going to turn heel and cost Angle the match. They could still do a heel turn angle for Jordan at some point.

It's not his fault that he's been put in such a shit storyline that's ruined his character.
 
He was over in a tag team and did well in NXT, only for it to be spoilt on the main roster.
 
They need to stop booking him as a whiny child to his dad because it makes him sound childish.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 21/November/2017 at 16:33
So you CAN see that a guy who gets over well elsewhere and is then mishandled on the main roster shouldn't necessarily be held responsible for not getting over. Huh... Good to know.

Unlike with Asuka though, I think Jordan has just been exposed. After all he was ONLY over as a part of a tag team, not as a singles competitor.

However, I agree that the whiney baby booking is really shitty, and hopefully results in a heel turn, otherwise WWE has once again shit the bed with their booking of a formerly popular NXT star.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 21/November/2017 at 19:40
I keep thinking that all of this will lead to a heel turn - be a shame if it’s just the end of his push and he keeps doing what he’s doing but at a lower level because it isn’t working

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Posted By: ihatethatmonkee
Date Posted: 21/November/2017 at 21:30
it's this horrible sort of whiney character, where it's "I only said I was 100% because it was HHH..." "I've got your blood running through me, I can face Braun Strowman!"

it's this polar opposite approach to the cowardly heel, and it sounds weird. it comes across as too try-hard, not for attention necessarily, but approval, both from Angle as a character, and from the crowd as a performer.

it's not going to get the crowd behind him, the problem is it's not going to garner him heat either, because the best they can hope for by continuing this path to his turn or his push as a face is apathy.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 22/November/2017 at 17:51
It must be heading to a heel turn, surely WWE aren’t dumb enough to think his cringey whiney persona is going to get him over as a face?

Would be a shame for them to just quietly forget the whole son of Kurt thing and let him drift down the card.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 22/November/2017 at 19:30
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

It must be heading to a heel turn, surely WWE aren’t dumb enough to think his cringey whiney persona is going to get him over as a face?

Would be a shame for them to just quietly forget the whole son of Kurt thing and let him drift down the card.

I agree, it has to be Heel

I dont think its possible for this gimmick to get over as a face because hes doing everything a chickenshit heel would do but has the extra heat factor of his dad being the GM and showing favour.

I think theyll keep it building like this for a while and it wouldnt surprise me if he interfered in an Angle HHH match and deliberately cost angle the match


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 28/November/2017 at 20:03
I thought his promo was very good on Raw this week and its looking more and more like a heel turn is on the cards

The way he came across on the mic claiming that he is a "Professional athlete" and the "i know my body" lines were excellent

He also has Angle gawping over him like the proud father which is only going to add to the heat he gets


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 29/November/2017 at 11:22
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

I thought his promo was very good on Raw this week and its looking more and more like a heel turn is on the cards
 
I agree. It was much better to see him more badass, instead of like a whiny childish kid around daddy.
 
Quote Jason Jordan is shown backstage getting ready to head out for his match against Kane.

- Jordan comes out to the ring to what sounds like a mostly negative reaction from the crowd. Jordan talks about the speculation on the internet about the legitimacy of his knee injury. Jordan says he knew last week he couldn't continue his match, but after a week of rehab with WWE's word class medical staff, he's ready to compete tonight. He says he's back to 100% and he's ready to do what Strowman couldn't do: beat Kane.

- Jason Jordan vs. Kane: Jordan goes for a single leg takedown early on, but Kane shoves him away. Jordan circles Kane for a German suplex, but Kane elbows him away. Jordan finally connects with a clothesline, then drives Kane into the corner and spears him. Kane fights back and throws Jordan out to ringside. Jordan starts selling his knee injury again on the floor, and the referee counts him out.

Winer via count out: Kane

- Jordan rolls back in the ring and starts brawling with Kane again, but Kane boots him down. Kane throws Jordan outside again and Jordan once again sells the knee. Kane beats down Jordan at ringside, then takes him back in the ring and repeatedly beats on Jordan's bad knee. Finn Balor's music hits and Balor comes out for the save.

Something can come from the knee injury angle when he does finally do his turn.
 
He can blame Kurt for risking his career, by making him pretend he was well enough to perform.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 29/November/2017 at 18:33
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Something can come from the knee injury angle when he does finally do his turn.
 
He can blame Kurt for risking his career, by making him pretend he was well enough to perform.


That i think would be an excellent move

Have Jordan feud with Kurt by saying Kurt pressured him into competing and make up some other blatant lies.

The knee injury thing can only go on for so much longer so they need to do something quickly with him.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 05/December/2017 at 15:23
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

The knee injury thing can only go on for so much longer so they need to do something quickly with him.
 
Weird on Raw that they had him still selling the injury with protection, yet he puts on a long match showing no affect to sell the so called injury.
 
Quote RAW GM Kurt Angle makes his way out to the ring to kick off tonight's show. Angle hypes up tonight's show, and mentions that Roman Reigns is going to have to defend his Intercontinental Championship tonight. Angle quickly gets interrupted by his son Jason Jordan, who comes down to the ring. Jordan asks Angle for a match against Roman Reigns tonight because he wants to answer his challenge to take the Intercontinental Title from him. Angle says Jordan can't be serious, his knee is still taped up from last week. Jordan asks his dad just to give him a chance. Before Angle can answer, Roman Reign's music hits and he comes out to interrupt. Reigns steps into the ring and says he's a fighting champion, but it won't be Jordan he's fighting tonight, he wants Samoa Joe. Reigns tells Jordan that if he wants an opportunity, don't go running to his daddy, step up and take it. Jordan says Reigns shouldn't talk about earning opportunities, but Reigns says he has earned his opportunities. Reigns tells Jordan again to step up and take it if he wants it. They come face to face with Angle between them, then Samoa Joe comes out to interrupt. Joe says his patience has worn thin with watching Reigns and Jordan pretending to be tough. Joe says he accepts Reigns' challenge, but he will give Reigns a chance right now to back out and save himself the embarrassment. Reigns doesn't retract his challenge. Jordan interrupts next and gets booed by the fans. Jordan says unlike Joe, he actually is tough, because he doesn't attack people from behind. Jordan issues a challenge to Joe now, but Reigns wants Joe first. Reigns starts to talk to Joe, but Jordan grabs him and gives Reigns a belly to belly suplex. Kurt pushes Jordan off of Reigns and tells him to leave. Jordan steps out to ringside. Reigns gets on the mic and says Joe will have to wait for later, because Jordan is going to get it right now. Reigns tells Kurt to make the match, and Angle calls for a ref to come down.
 
That was another cringe big baby son, crying to daddy to get his own way segment.
 
The only plus right now with him is despite his losing streak, he is booked as tough and not backing down from anyone.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 05/December/2017 at 19:16
I actually think this week was good for the development of his imminent full heel turn.

He did the whine to daddy but mixed it in with some heelish things like attacking both Reigns and Joe when they werent expecting it

He lost the match so that gives him something to use going forward.

The stuff with angle when he asked for another title shot helped build the tension between the 2 


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Posted By: ihatethatmonkee
Date Posted: 06/December/2017 at 18:07
I genuinely don't know. right now, i'm still not sure if they're trying to get him over as a resilient face who will never back down from a fight, or a heel that is using his dad to make a name for himself by getting put into these big name matches, even if he still loses them.

the whole thing with Angle was pointless, since Reigns has already said to anyone who wants the belt to come and get it, so begging Kurt for another chance was pointless.

they've tried too hard with this angle thus far, and there's also no consistency. last week, he was still upset because he'd missed his chance to have a match beside his dad, this week he was upset because he wanted a IC title match despite Joe already having claimed it this week. it does come across as the petulant child who wants everything whilst not knowing what they really want, and yes, it's not the actions of a face, but it's not really the actions of a heel either, it's the actions of an idiot.

definitely right now a waste of the actual talent he does have, as he's shown how good he can be in the ring, he's decent enough on promos, especially in this day and age, and he certainly has the right look to be a figure always around the IC or US titles.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 12/December/2017 at 15:50
Quote Jason Jordan walks into Kurt Angle's office and starts apologizing for his behavior last week, and for demanding a match from Kurt. He says he gets the intensity from his father. Jordan says he'll keep his cool, but then starts complaining about not being given a match against Samoa Joe tonight. Jordan says he's the only one who can beat Joe, but Angle points out that Jordan hasn't beaten many of his big name opponents. Angle says Jordan will get the match when it's the right time, then Jordan storms off.

- Dean Ambrose vs. Samoa Joe: As Ambrose and Joe circle each other, Jason Jordan comes out to the stage for a closer look. Ambrose gets distracted, and Joe cheap-shots him and starts beating down The Lunatic. Ambrose takes out Joe's knee and starts mounting a comeback. Joe shuts him down and attempts a running senton, but Ambrose rolls out of the way. They trade strikes in the ring until Ambrose hits a series of clotheslines and drops Joe. Jordan is now sitting on a chair on the stage. Joe hits a suplex then taunts Jordan, showing that he's got suplexes too. Jordan stands up and walks down the ramp, as Ambrose takes advantage of the distraction and decks Joe from behind. Ambrose and Joe fall out to ringside, where Jordan throws Ambrose back in the ring. Joe gets up and locks Jordan in the Coquina Clutch at ringside, then Ambrose comes flying out of the ring and hits a suicide dive on both of them. Back in the ring, Jordan distracts Joe and Ambrose capitalizes with a big elbow. Ambrose covers Joe, but the ref is distracted by Jordan and doesn't count the pin. Ambrose confronts Jordan at ringside and Jordan grabs him for a suplex. Before Jordan can do the suplex, Joe comes flying out of the ring with a suicide dive on both of them. Joe rolls Ambrose back in the ring, then hits a senton on Jordan on the floor. Joe locks Ambrose in the Coquina Cutch in the middle of the ring for the win.

Winner: Samoa Joe

We got through nearly all the show without seeing him and that in itself was heelish booking.
 
He's a lot of haters in the fanbase at the moment and they will have started to think he wouldn't be seen all show as it's late on and then there he is LOL
 
He cost Ambrose a pin, but got attacked by Joe, so his tweener character hasn't changed.


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Posted By: 205 Clive
Date Posted: 03/January/2018 at 20:57
Not sure if this will be a popular opinion but I've been loving what's going on with Jason Jordan at the moment. There were worries that his tag title win meant they were quashing the potential heel turn, but his ego got the better of him yet again this week as he bragged about his belt, made it all about himself, and kind of brushed off the constructive criticism that Seth had for him (bear in mind Seth has seen and done it all already in his short career in WWE). Jordan has went from being a sore loser and self entitled, to a sore winner and still self entitled.  The slow heel turn is still on the go and it will be really interesting to see where it goes from here. 

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 07/February/2018 at 13:21
Quote Seth Rollins confronts Jason Jordan in the back, and yells that he only thinks about himself. He calls Jordan a son of a bitch, and Kurt Angle interrupts. Angle tells Jordan to go cool off, and then sends Jordan home. He tells Jordan to stay home until he's medically cleared, and yells at Jordan to leave.
 
I hope when he gets back, he is kept in his current role because he's one of the best on the roster for getting legit heel heat.
 
He was wrote off perfectly with him finally listening to what his dad and boss is telling him.
 
Love how unprofessional E book themselves in having him dressed to compete, but their medical team only knowing minutes before the match that he can't take part in it.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 14/September/2018 at 18:56
So ive read a few things online lately which basically said that Jordans injury was more serious and the procedure was more complicated than what was originally stated.

WWE have had Jordan backstage lately learning the ropes as a producer/agent as they feel his in ring career may be over permanently.

That would be a real shame for someone who was just really getting into the main storylines and becoming more prominent.


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