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Topic: Elias Samson On Raw
Posted By: admin
Subject: Elias Samson On Raw
Date Posted: 12/April/2017 at 11:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Ohl56vA9w

How do you get him over? Baron Corbin is already doing the loner character.

I didn't see the point of his debut as he did nothing. He was booked to debut but not to make any kind of impact by getting involved in something.

We weren't even given an idea of who he will begin fueding with. His appearance was a wasted one.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 01/May/2017 at 14:57
Not sure where they are headed with him constantly appearing in the background playing his guitar while other talent dismiss him as some sort of nobody.

He was booked as a jobber in NXT and based off what I've seen on Raw so far there's nothing to suggest he will be anything more than that on the main roster.

Shame because he has a decent look and a gimmick that could work. NXT wasn't the best fit for him with the fans there wanting indy style pure wrestling characters and not gimmicked wrestlers.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 31/May/2017 at 13:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oFReenoPOU

What a shit singer. I don't know if that's his usual singing voice or he's told to sound worse for cheap heel heat.

What's the point in him facing a jobber? It's too predictable and the segment quarterly rating no doubt sucked.

He will soon by low card jobber, but at least he's got a gimmick for the role instead of just being bland.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 24/June/2017 at 11:52
I'm actually quite liking this guy so far, the way he trolls the fans with his songs is great and brings back memories of how The Rock used to do it with his 'concerts'.

He has a great look and isn't too shabby in the ring from what I've seen so far. Intrigued to see his feud with Finn Balor although I don't expect Elias to be victorious in this one.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 26/June/2017 at 11:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsj7lphjijk

He was made to look really strong against Finn, but I don't see their interaction as a long term thing.

I'm surprised he's been put straight in with a top tier guy instead of working his way up.

It's going to be hard for him to keep the heel heat fresh from just cheap putdowns to local fans about their local history such as sport teams.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 27/June/2017 at 02:00
I like Samson. I might tune in long enough tonight to see whatever segment he might be in. I've always been a fan of his ever since he debuted in NXT. Perhaps just for the sake of seeing something different, I'll try and stick it out on Raw tonight.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 23/July/2017 at 18:11
I like this guy, I really enjoy now his character is kind of a mix of JJ Jeff Jarrett and the Rock in concert. The songs where he trolls the crowd and city he's in are good fun.

He's a very capable worker as well with a good look and size. I hope he can at least establish himself as a upper mid-card act, the fact he is holding his own with a top guy like Balor is encouraging.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 30/August/2017 at 14:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1AaCxWpSZg

His catchphrase is a question that's going to get a babyface response, so it doesn't work.

They should give him his surname back because just a first name is too bland for his musician character.

His concerts are already old and tiring because there are only so many ways to put down a city before it becomes repetitive and samey.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 04/October/2017 at 22:20
Elias is comedy gold and seems to get alot of legit heat

He needs to move on from this thing with Titus worldwide and have a meaningful feud against a decent level babyface before people start to get bored of him


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 11/October/2017 at 14:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBMwOl2DO8I

They should bring back his surname. Too many people are known by one bland name.

Asking who wants to walk with him is getting him a far to babyface reaction for a heel.

Corey Graves always slags off his singing. Heel commentator slagging off heel wrestler makes no booking sense.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 11/October/2017 at 19:15
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBMwOl2DO8I


Asking who wants to walk with him is getting him a far to babyface reaction for a heel.


You seem to say that comment an awful lot and it makes absolutely no sense what so ever

There are no heels currently in WWE who get serious heat - the majority of crowds are becoming more and more smark(ish) 

Strowman and Miz are just two examples - the 2 main heels on the show - both of which get pretty decent crowd receptions


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 11/October/2017 at 19:43
Elias is a curious character to me. I saw huge potential in him while he wasn in NXT but he didn't do much there, and this run in the main roster is strange too, but I still think he's got a lot of potential. I think, like Heel suggests, that as long as he's getting a good reaction he's fine. Saying it's a matter of heel or baby that he's getting over is a bit moot.

However if you look at Miz and Strowman each guy is over in a different way. Just like one of Miz's old shirts used to say "Haters love me". Miz is a heel people love to boo. A bit ineffectual as a babyface but as a heel he is one of the best talkers in WWE history.

Strowman on the other hand is purely over as a babyface  despite whether he gets booked heel or baby.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 11/October/2017 at 19:58
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Elias is a curious character to me. I saw huge potential in him while he wasn in NXT but he didn't do much there, and this run in the main roster is strange too, but I still think he's got a lot of potential.

His run on the main roster has already far exceeded expectations anyone had when he got called up based purely on how "under the radar" (for want of a better term) his run in NXT was

I like the gimmick he has going on but i think he needs a higher level feud than Titus Worldwide for him to get over properly


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 11/October/2017 at 20:12
I think Titus Worldwide is a good start for him, actually. I like his gimmick too, but I agree it's a bit er... discombobulated. heheh. It doesn't really make a huge amount of sense, but when you look at the guy it's like Randy Savage and Seth Rollins had a baby, and made what looks like the most quintessential looking wrestler ever. He's a damned good worker, and he's coming into his own on the mic too. He just needs some kind of breakout moment, and I'm not sure he'll ever get that.

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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 11/October/2017 at 20:40
Elias has been one of the few that has flourished on the main roster compared to his NXT run. They've found something that works on the main roster at the moment, so as long as it stays in the lower reaches for now it's fine by me.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 11/October/2017 at 21:56
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBMwOl2DO8I


Asking who wants to walk with him is getting him a far to babyface reaction for a heel.


You seem to say that comment an awful lot and it makes absolutely no sense what so ever

There are no heels currently in WWE who get serious heat - the majority of crowds are becoming more and more smark(ish) 

Strowman and Miz are just two examples - the 2 main heels on the show - both of which get pretty decent crowd receptions

It makes perfect sense. The job of a heel isn't to have marks saying your catchphrase along with you, it's to be booed and hated so by that he's not doing his role properly.

It's like when they stopped Estrada saying what his name was when managing Umaga, so I am surprised Paul Heyman gets away with it.

He should be smashing paper thin prop guitars over heads like Jeff Jarrett used to do.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 11/October/2017 at 22:10
Name on top heel in the company now that gets massive boos?

Kevin Owens, Strowman, Miz, Lesnar, Wyatt are all top heels yet not one of them get massive heat - are they all doing their job wrong too? no, of course they aren't - it doesn't matter what a wrestler does - you can not make the crowd respond to you in a certain way - they will always respond to you however they see fit

Alot of fans prefer heel type characters so will always cheer for them

so as per my previous statement - your point makes no sense - especially in todays era of wrestling



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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 12/October/2017 at 00:45
Miz used to get legit heel heat... but then fans kinda wised up to his game and now they seem to really like him.

Triple H and Stephanie are about the only top heels that can still do it, but they're both part timers on TV and both in special positions. 


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 08/November/2017 at 13:38
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

Name on top heel in the company now that gets massive boos?


That's the problem. Too many guys want to be cool heels and sell merchandise. Very few actual heels today that get the heat they should for the role they play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4HURPp9ifs

Shocking to have a character you've been building up, go and lose his kind of match.

Never ever should a pole match of any type be booked, as it's a instant reminder of Russo.


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Posted By: ihatethatmonkee
Date Posted: 08/November/2017 at 17:34
Miz is able to quickly turns any cheers back to boos, as he showed when he announced him and Maryse are expecting.

Joe managed to turn the cheers for his return to boos.

Elias is woeful right now. we've got through Jordan, Titus... WORLDWIDE! and he's not looked good in any of it. he looked okay partnered up with Gallows and Anderson, but I think that's because we all know they could do so much better than they are currently being used for.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 28/November/2017 at 11:41
Quote Elias comes out to the ring and sings a song about his friend The Miz. He then introduces Curtis Axel and Bo Dallas, who start going to town on the harmonicas. Elias gives them props for their harmonica skills and tells the crowd to give them a round of applause. Elias keeps playing but he's interrupted by fans chanting "we want Roman." Elias says he wants Roman more than any of them, and with that, the Intercontinental Campion makes his way out.

- Roman Reigns (c) vs. Elias: Axel and Dallas are at ringside in Elias' corner. The IC Title is on the line in this one. They lock up off the opening bell, then break it up and size each other up. Elias ends up backing Reigns into the corner until the ref backs him off. Reigns fires up and lays into Elias with right hands. Elias fires back with a knee to the mid section, then takes Reigns down. Elias sends Reigns into the ring post shoulder-first then covers for a two count. Elias applies a chin lock and works on keeping the Big Dog down. Reigns starts fighting up with right hands, but Elias drops him again with a clothesline. Reigns fights up, then Dallas gets on the apron and Reigns knocks him off. Axel gets on the other side of the apron and Reigns goes after him too. Elias capitalizes on the distractions with a clothesline on the Champion, and he's back in control. Elias continues the beat-down on Reigns until Reigns manages to shove Elias out to the ringside floor. Reigns follows him out and hits the Drive By, then Reigns decks Dallas with a Superman punch. Reigns gets distracted by Dallas, then turns around and spears Axel. Elias takes advantage of the distraction and decks Reigns, then takes him back in the ring. Elias goes up top and hits a flying elbow drop on the Champion for a two count. Elias starts getting frustrated and Reigns hits a powerbomb. Elias gets up and Reigns decks him with a superman punch for a two count. Reigns goes for a spear, but Elias blocks it with a knee. Reigns runs the ropes again and this time he successfully hits the spear for the three count.

Winner & still Intercontinental Champion: Roman Reigns

Very happy with his performance. It's good to see an heel looking strong enough to step up and want to face the guy promoted as the number one babyface in the company.
 
He lost as we all knew he would, but he came out of the match looking better than expected.
 
Elias is getting better all the time and when a babyface turn does come, he will make a lot of money from t shirt sales.


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 28/November/2017 at 12:40
I've always enjoyed the Elias push because it's been a reverse face push the whole time. There's a reason Miz avoids doing catchphrases on TV unless they're patronising; they get over. Who wants to walk with Elias is over.

Elias is a real master of the art too, to the point where he can have a whole crowd clapping along (as he did on a pre-show earlier in the year) and then turn them all to hatred in the flip of a switch ("Houston, when did you lose your balls?")

Then he does cool stuff, such as the leapfrog to the top rope, that was amazing. And singing gimmicks are slowly getting over again.

Big fan, face turn will come and it will be glorious. 


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 28/November/2017 at 20:00
Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

I've always enjoyed the Elias push because it's been a reverse face push the whole time. There's a reason Miz avoids doing catchphrases on TV unless they're patronising; they get over. Who wants to walk with Elias is over.

Elias is a real master of the art too, to the point where he can have a whole crowd clapping along (as he did on a pre-show earlier in the year) and then turn them all to hatred in the flip of a switch ("Houston, when did you lose your balls?")

Then he does cool stuff, such as the leapfrog to the top rope, that was amazing. And singing gimmicks are slowly getting over again.

Big fan, face turn will come and it will be glorious. 

I've also been a fan of Elias and his current gimmick is working a treat

He's always looked solid in the ring but he was very good against Reigns on Raw

I'd like to see him have an IC title run or even a tag title run whilst they continue to build him up and possibly like you said turn him face


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 28/November/2017 at 20:36
Tag title run is a good idea I hadn't considered actually. Possibly after the next shakeup with someone like Aiden English.

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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 28/November/2017 at 21:07
A classic singer with a guitarist? Sounds like it could work.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 28/November/2017 at 22:15
It doesn’t necessarily have to be with anyone that matches his current gimmick - could easily be with one of his followers - I mean Axel and Bo haven’t done anything lately and he’s saved them from being abandoned as Miz is gna be gone for a long time - so could even be one of them

I would prefer it to be with Alden English because they are both really good in the ring too and could both benefit from a decent run

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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 28/November/2017 at 22:51
There are a few people it could be but nobody with both the context and the need for development that I can think of. It's much like how I wanted Ziggler to be the leader of a stable with Breezango; sometimes characters match. People don't really have gimmicks any more as much as defined personalities.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 08/December/2017 at 17:51
He showed glimpses of a face turn this week in his backstage segment with Kurt Angle, also his reactions are getting stronger, Elias is really over.

Elias is one of my favourites on the current roster along with Braun Strowman. I think he can go far too, a decent look and size, charismatic, and a gimmick that is over and he’s clearly comfortable in. Is funny how he pretty much tanked in NXT but is enjoying real success on the main roster.

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Posted By: ihatethatmonkee
Date Posted: 09/December/2017 at 11:30
he's definitely going to be a big deal at some point. last week's match with Reigns should have been a massive wake-up call to everyone out there to watch him. it was exactly what he needed as a performer, as his matches to date have been dull more because of them not feeling like anything special, sop hopefully moving forward we'll see more matches like that.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 09/December/2017 at 15:22
The Reigns match proved that Elias looks the part in a main event big match setting.

Given how over Elias is getting I wonder if he might be the next Intercontinental champion? One booking scenario would be for Elias to defeat Roman for the belt and then turn face just prior to Wrestlemania and perhaps defend against The Miz.

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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 09/December/2017 at 16:47
I'm expecting Roman to retain over Joe, retain over Cena on the 26th and then lose it to The Miz when the Miz returns. 

Hopefully that will lead to The Miz' mania program with Finn Balor. Between The Miz and the crowd reactions Finn Balor would be very firmly established by that program.

And everybody will be so disappointed when The Miz retains, they'll be furious, and then Balor will turn up on Smackdown and the fans will all be like "I knew it all along, I knew..."


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Posted By: ihatethatmonkee
Date Posted: 10/December/2017 at 11:28
i'd say the only thing hurting him thus far, when watching at home, is the mix on commentary. Graves definitely comes across as more of the heel commentator the majority of the time, so it should, for now, be him bigging up Elias' "concerts" and not Cole.

if he had been booked as more of a tweener, then I would get it, and it would work, but he's clearly been booked as a heel, so having a face commentator be so full of praise for him can be hard to grasp.

but that there is something that is completely out of his hands.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 12/December/2017 at 19:51

That was one of his better promos and he is really getting over with this gimmick

The character is great and i hope in 2018 he has some big feuds and pushes on up the card


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 15/December/2017 at 15:28
Quote Vince Russo tweeted the following on Thursday, ripping WWE’s booking of Elias:

FOOLS want to talk about MY BOOKING? https://twitter.com/IAmEliasWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow - @IAmEliasWWE has his best https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow - @WWE match against https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/roman-reigns" rel="nofollow - Roman Reigns , gets squashed the next week by https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/braun-strowman" rel="nofollow - Braun Strowman and is no where to be found this week. THAT’S how you kill a talent. https://twitter.com/hashtag/SHAME?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow - #SHAME

— Vince Russo (@THEVinceRusso) https://twitter.com/THEVinceRusso/status/941322088547205120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow - December 14, 2017

 
I find myself hugely agreeing with Vince Russo, because he's actually right Shocked
 
His booking for the past two weeks has been very bad and not been built on after his great match with Roman.
 
They had got him some momentum from the match and didn't captalise on it.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 15/December/2017 at 17:10
It would have been smart to capitalise on that momentum because Elias is really over and getting stronger reactions each week. After the great match with Roman it did seem strange to feed him to Strowman. I wonder if they purposely left him off the show this week to allow last week to fade from memory and for him to return to a big reaction this coming Monday.

I was interested to see Triple H’s comments recently saying that Elias was made for the main roster but was not a good fit for NXT, his stint down in NXT was nothing more than a little prep work before moving him to Raw which as we’ve seen is a far more natural home for him.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 16/December/2017 at 11:27
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

It would have been smart to capitalise on that momentum because Elias is really over and getting stronger reactions each week. After the great match with Roman it did seem strange to feed him to Strowman. I wonder if they purposely left him off the show this week to allow last week to fade from memory and for him to return to a big reaction this coming Monday.

I was interested to see Triple H’s comments recently saying that Elias was made for the main roster but was not a good fit for NXT, his stint down in NXT was nothing more than a little prep work before moving him to Raw which as we’ve seen is a far more natural home for him.

They probably just wanted to keep him on TV and a loss to Strowman doesnt hurt anyone at the minute given the run that hes on

They seem like they are just biding time with Elias - possibly deciding on who he can feud with next

He needs to feud with a top name, possibly someone from The Shield to really elevate his character because he has been awesome for a while now and they should look to build on that


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 16/December/2017 at 11:49
It's not easy finding an ideal feud for Elias. It's all been a bit formulaic really. Interrupt musical performance, bad guy.

He's done well for opponents too, really. Reigns and Balor, Jordan might not be a big name but he's in a key storyline. He briefly dallied with R-Truth but then R-Truth picked up an injury and that was that. Being in the ring with Strowman at all will add to Elias' exposure. I get the feeling he was left off TV to solidify the 'Elias deserves better' movement.

Honestly I think they're running out of people for him to feud with on Raw. I'd expect him to be on the mania pre-show (which I think is the right decision) but potentially not to have an actual match. 

Ideally at this point he can take over the running of the Miztourage and be fed to The Miz when The Miz does return. That will carry him into mania well enough and after that Raw will have new faces or he can move to Smackdown. I see him staying and taking on maybe a moved over Breezango or even a brief Orton feud.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 19/December/2017 at 19:19
Imagine what the scenes would be like if he actually won the Rumble ...

But we all know that wont happen, however i think a decent run whereby he even makes the final 4 would do wonders - i remember how much that did for Reigns, in fact it seemed to be his breakout moment from the rest of The Shield 

He could do with a high profile feud going in or coming out of The Rumble so im hoping they can set something uo because he is super over right now and as he has shown - he has excellent in ring ability to match the vocals


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 19/December/2017 at 23:04
I was originally pretty high on this guy, but TBH if I were in creative, I really wouldn't have anything to do for him and wouldn't even keep him on TV. I suppose the best you can do is to have him "pick" his feud by singling out someone with his music and start talking trash about them. He still seems like he's in his starter phase where he just needs to get the ball rolling.

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Posted By: Benscast
Date Posted: 19/December/2017 at 23:53
I really enjoy him. He is my Mr. Ironman in the royal rumble starting early and being in it the longest.


Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 23/January/2018 at 03:14
Well apparently I'm the only one in this thread who can't stand him. I hate it when he sings, and I hate it when he talks (and not in the way I'm supposed to hate him.) He is one of the few who actually make me want to not watch his segment. 

But I would admit he is looking tough at times in the ring. But overall I'm not sold on him. Thumbs Down  


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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 23/January/2018 at 08:52
Originally posted by Kondor Kondor wrote:

Well apparently I'm the only one in this thread who can't stand him. I hate it when he sings, and I hate it when he talks (and not in the way I'm supposed to hate him.) He is one of the few who actually make me want to not watch his segment. 

But I would admit he is looking tough at times in the ring. But overall I'm not sold on him. Thumbs Down  



No I'm with you maybe not to the extent but I'm not sure about him just yet, he shows potential yes but his only thing at the moment is he's little music thing at least with guys who have done it in the past (Stone Cold, Honky tonk man, Rock) it wasn't the only part of their gimmick.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 23/January/2018 at 09:02
Yous two need to give your heads a wobble and WALK WITH ELIAS

His gimmick is solid and is still getting reactions from the crowd and he is really good in the ring - my only concern was that he hadn’t had a feud with any of the top guys however after the past few weeks it would appear he will feud with Cena so as long as he doesn’t get buried then it’s all good

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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 23/January/2018 at 09:52
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

Yous two need to give your heads a wobble and WALK WITH ELIAS

His gimmick is solid and is still getting reactions from the crowd and he is really good in the ring - my only concern was that he hadn’t had a feud with any of the top guys however after the past few weeks it would appear he will feud with Cena so as long as he doesn’t get buried then it’s all good

He can't talk and he can't sing and he isn't even good at purposely trying to sing bad (like Kurt Angle did.)  His gimmick isn't the problem; he is. He just sucks. 

I don't want to see him feud with anybody, not even Cena. I want to see him receive his future endeavors and never see him again. 

If they want a below mediocre guitar player with no sense of tune, I'd prefer they bring back Man Mountain Rock. 


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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 23/January/2018 at 10:00
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

Yous two need to give your heads a wobble and WALK WITH ELIAS

His gimmick is solid and is still getting reactions from the crowd and he is really good in the ring - my only concern was that he hadn’t had a feud with any of the top guys however after the past few weeks it would appear he will feud with Cena so as long as he doesn’t get buried then it’s all good



Nah Elias needs to WALK WITH THE JIZZLE WinkLOL


But seriously he's wrestling is decent but his gimmick is my only concern he needs to be able to do more then just sing a song about the place he's in or about a wrestler he needs to be able to do other stuff as well.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 30/January/2018 at 18:17
I know that after watching Raw, Kon will be with me and together we will:

Walk With Elias

Onto the chamber he goes - i hope he is the one to eliminate Cena - he owes him one


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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 31/January/2018 at 11:56
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

I know that after watching Raw, Kon will be with me and together we will:

Walk With Elias

Onto the chamber he goes - i hope he is the one to eliminate Cena - he owes him one

I was highly disappointed he made the Chamber, I hoped Matt would have delete, delete, deleted him.  Cry Now hopefully Elias gets taken out before the pay per view by Strowman or Kane. 

Or maybe Funaki will get up from the Japanese broadcast booth and ram the Japanese flagpole into his larynx so Elias can't sing anymore, sparring us all from torture every Monday night.

Because you know, Funaki is evil. 

.... indeed. 


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 31/January/2018 at 13:39
Originally posted by L-shizzel L-shizzel wrote:

But seriously he's wrestling is decent but his gimmick is my only concern he needs to be able to do more then just sing a song about the place he's in or about a wrestler he needs to be able to do other stuff as well.
 
Agreed. I don't want his gimmick to get bland and repetitve. He needs to find other ways to get heat because just having a go at the local crowd is getting samey.
 
Quote Elias is in the ring for a song. Elias wants to claim his spot in the Elimination Chamber, and asks who is walking with him. Elias will face Matt Hardy up next in an Elimination Chamber qualifying match.

- Matt Hardy vs. Elias: The winner of this one will go on to the Elimination Chamber. Hardy starts off strong off the opening bell and works over Elias in the corner. Elias comes back and wraps Hardy's shoulder around the ring post several times. Elias starts working over Matt's shoulder and trying to keep the Woken one grounded. Matt tries to fight his way back up but Elias drops him and keeps working on the shoulder. Hardy finally hulks up with a series of headbutts, then an elbow. He drops Elias for a two count. Matt repeatedly slams Elias' head on the middle turnbuckle, then hits a running clothesline on him. Elias starts fighting back, but Matt stuns him with an elbow to the face, then Matt hits a flying elbow off the middle rope. Hardy follows up with the Side Effect for a two count. Bray Wyatt flashes on the Titantron and distracts Hardy. Elias capitalizes with a big boot on Hardy, then the Drift Away for the three count.

Winner: Elias

Is the plan a babyface turn? Usually when a heel gets positive fan interaction, they are booked to run the fans down and tell them how they don't want their cheers.
 
Elias on the otherhand seems to revel in the positive crowd response, especially on the walk with Elias catchphrase.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 31/January/2018 at 14:29
The only problem with a face turn would be he’d have to change up his lyrics to be more fan pleasing and I don’t want him to start doing cheesy songs sucking up to the crowd and the venue. He could instead use his lyrics to insult his heel opponents, that would be entertaining and less repetitive than his current regime of running down the area and stuff associated with it.

No interaction with Cena this week and both are in the Elimination Chamber match so looks like Elias won’t be doing a pre-Wrestlemania job to Cena, at least not on PPV.

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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 06/February/2018 at 04:01
I have no idea why some of you guys like this guy. I swear he gets worse every week. He doesn't deserve the mic time and guitar playing time he's getting. He needs to shut the fuck up and go to a jobber to the stars type role. This guy is getting too many undeserved victories. I didn't even watch the end of this week's Raw; but I can't believe he went over Cena and Strowman to earn the right to enter last in the Chamber. I'm too disgusted to elaborate. 

Fucking hell I can't stand him. 


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 06/February/2018 at 05:49
What a performance on Raw - was really surprised by the result

Kon - you just need to appreciate his talent - maybe next week you can silence your cell phone and hold your applause whilst he is performing. It’s time you learned to Walk With Elias

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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 06/February/2018 at 07:22
He impressed me with his performance, is he going to win the chamber match hell no but he's going to do well in it that's for sure.

I will walk with Elias

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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 06/February/2018 at 07:28
Originally posted by L-shizzel L-shizzel wrote:

He impressed me with his performance, is he going to win the chamber match hell no but he's going to do well in it that's for sure.

I will walk with Elias

Oh, come on Shiz I thought you were on my side on this one. 

In any case I'm proud to represent the Anti-Elias Club by my self.  

Let's go Cena!! Let's go Cena!!  


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 06/February/2018 at 08:03
Originally posted by Kondor Kondor wrote:


Let's go Cena!! Let's go Cena!!  


Cena Sucks !

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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 06/February/2018 at 08:13
Originally posted by Kondor Kondor wrote:

Originally posted by L-shizzel L-shizzel wrote:

He impressed me with his performance, is he going to win the chamber match hell no but he's going to do well in it that's for sure.

I will walk with Elias

Oh, come on Shiz I thought you were on my side on this one. 

In any case I'm proud to represent the Anti-Elias Club by my self.  

Let's go Cena!! Let's go Cena!!  
 


Sorry Kon I still  love you though Wink 

Hey here's a suggestion we should make a debate thing like Ticket wars and the first topic should be about Elias and should be Heel vs Kondor :)


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 07/February/2018 at 13:46
Originally posted by Kondor Kondor wrote:

I have no idea why some of you guys like this guy. I swear he gets worse every week. He doesn't deserve the mic time and guitar playing time he's getting. He needs to shut the fuck up and go to a jobber to the stars type role. This guy is getting too many undeserved victories. I didn't even watch the end of this week's Raw; but I can't believe he went over Cena and Strowman to earn the right to enter last in the Chamber. I'm too disgusted to elaborate. 

Fucking hell I can't stand him. 
 
#EliasForKondorsNextTicketWarsRoster
 
Quote Elias is backstage tuning up his guitar.

- Elias is out to the ring next for a song. He sings a song taking shots at Strowman and Cena, and also Universal Champion Brock Lesnar. He's finally interrupted by Cena making his entrance.

- John Cena vs. Elias vs. Braun Strowman: This one is under Triple Threat rules. The opening bell sounds and the three size each other up. Elias rolls outside as Cena and Braun go at it. Braun drops Cena while Elias observes from the floor. Strowman finally follows Elias outside, and Elias and Cena end up double teaming Strowman. They drive Braun into the ring post a couple times, and Braun is down to one knee. They drive him into the ring steps now, and Strowman goes down. Cena picks up the steps and hits Braun with them, and Elias hits Braun with the guitar, but Strowman still gets to his feet. Cena hits the AA onto the ring steps at ringside on Strowman, then Elias turns on Cena and hits him from behind. Elias brings Cena int othe ring and stomps on him, as the fans duel chants for Elias and Cena. Elias hits a backbreaker for a 2 count, while Strowman sells the AA at ringside. Cena fights his way up and hits the flying shoulders and back drop on Elias. Cena goes for the Five Knuckle Shuffle, but Strowman runs in and grabs Cena for a running powerslam. Braun hits the powerslam on Cena but then goes for one on Elias an Elias escapes. Elias kicks Strowman out of the ring, then steals the pin on Cena for the three count. Elias has now earned a spot in the Elimination Chamber.

Winner: Elias

- After the bell, Strowman immediately hits the ring and slams Elias. Braun hits another running powerslam on Cena. The crowd chants for one more, and Strowman gives one more powerslam to Elias. Strowman poses on the corner but hte crowd is still chanting for more . Strowman steps back down to the mat and hits another powerslam on Cena, then another on Elias. Braun's music hits and he leaves as RAW goes off the air.

He was built up beautifully with the singing, followed by his surprise victory.
 
Then they went and spoilt it by not making it a trifecta with him looking strong as the only one standing, as the show went off air.


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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 10/February/2018 at 21:11
Interestingly Elias bounced his WWE is Walk With Elias off John Cena....

Quote Elias recently appeared as a guest on Edge and Christian's podcast,  http://www.podbean.com/media/share/dir-dtrji-386299a" rel="nofollow - E&C's Pod Of Awesomeness  for an in-depth interview. During the interview, Elias spoke about establishing his "Walk with Elias" catchphrase and how it immediately caught on with the WWE Universe. Featured below are some of the highlights from the interview.

On the origins of the "Walk with Elias" catchphrase and how he connected it to "WWE": "The 'walk with Elias" thing-- it all started with The Drifter in NXT. So, it's all kind of evolved, right? The Drifter was this guy where I'd put a guitar on my shoulder and walk from town to town, find my way however I can, whether it's hitchhiking, on a bus, walking, whatever I've gotta do. So it just became a question, 'Who wants to walk with The Drifter? Who wants to go with me on this journey?'

"When I got to the main roster, Vince [McMahon] said 'Let's drop The Drifter stuff. You're gonna be Elias and that's it. So, 'walk with Elias' was the next question, right? And it just so happened to perfectly work out, 'WWE' and 'walk with Elias' are right in line there. I remember I said it backstage to John Cena. He was going off about the WWE Universe and the WWE this and that, and I said 'Hey John, do you know WWE stands for? It stands for walk with Elias.' He said, 'My head just exploded in ten different ways, man. That is great!' He said, 'You got to make a thing out of that.'"

On trying it in front of a live audience and it immediately connecting: "So, sure enough, the next week or whatever I said it against John [Cena], I believe in a promo on Christmas Day, no less. It seemed like right away the fans really reacted to it and the next week I started asking them, 'What does WWE stand for?' and they'll fire back."



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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 10/February/2018 at 21:14
This gets him over whether he is a face or a heel but he's just gonna need to add a little more to his gimmick then just the guitar playing but in any case for now I will walk with Elias.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 11/February/2018 at 00:36
I was a fan of Elias from the first time I saw him in NXT. He is another guy who WWE can claim to have made a name out of rather than being a guy who came in with a sizable indie following. 

His look is fantastic, his character ain't really my thing, but it's far from bad. He wrestles very well, but in a nondescript way, not in a way that screams "I'm indie, love me!" like so many other guys. For the record, I'm a fan of both, and IMO they need a balance of both, so with WWE going overly indie the last five years Elias is a bit of a breath of fresh air.

I DO wish they would bring back the last name of Samson, though, I loved that last name. It might not be Drake Maverick good, but Elias Samson ain't a name to turn your nose up at. I think the only other thing he really needs to do is show that he can more of an animated personality when the need arises. 

Other than that all he needs is more time and just staying the course. 


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 11/February/2018 at 11:38
As much as I am a fan of him now , he never really stood out for me when he was in NXT. My fandom for want of a better word is all down to his work on the main roster.

His gimmick has helped get him over and I agree with his in ring ability comments you made Rico

Just need Kon to admit he Walks With Elias

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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 11/February/2018 at 12:03
Don't watch NXT so I never saw him but he caught my interest from the off. The fact that he used to just walk across backstage interviews, and The Miz and Kurt Angle would just look confused and ask who he was, I liked that. It was funny. 

When he started his in-ring promos they were good but I think it was the Summerslam pre-show that really cemented him for me. He was always cutting face promos with heel heat, building up a stockpile of catchphrases that he would later use when he turned face but staying heel for now (because heels grow and faces draw) Rock style. 

At Summerslam he briefly went face for a song and you saw just how huge this guy was going to be when they pulled that trigger. He played a jovial, fun song that had everyone in the audience clapping along.

And then he's like "Houston, when did you lose your balls" and the entire arena just turned on him. The betrayal. The fury. The hatred.

The fact that they're not solidly pushing him is solidly pushing him. People are getting invested in this guy, and they're desperate to see him go higher and higher. He hasn't been involved in any major storylines. He's had a couple of major matches but nothing really worth writing home about. The swell of support is only going to grow.

The best thing they can do right now is nothing at all. His promos are exciting. His matches are fun. He's been in the ring with a lot of the big names on Raw now so they might be swapping him for someone like Corbin, but if they just hold him as he is the fans are just going to get more and more determined to turn him face. When they do that, he'll be huge, but he'll be stuck where he is until he turns heel again. 

I seriously can't wait though. I love this guy.


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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 03/March/2018 at 12:51
Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

Don't watch NXT so I never saw him but he caught my interest from the off. The fact that he used to just walk across backstage interviews, and The Miz and Kurt Angle would just look confused and ask who he was, I liked that. It was funny. 

When he started his in-ring promos they were good but I think it was the Summerslam pre-show that really cemented him for me. He was always cutting face promos with heel heat, building up a stockpile of catchphrases that he would later use when he turned face but staying heel for now (because heels grow and faces draw) Rock style. 

At Summerslam he briefly went face for a song and you saw just how huge this guy was going to be when they pulled that trigger. He played a jovial, fun song that had everyone in the audience clapping along.

And then he's like "Houston, when did you lose your balls" and the entire arena just turned on him. The betrayal. The fury. The hatred.

The fact that they're not solidly pushing him is solidly pushing him. People are getting invested in this guy, and they're desperate to see him go higher and higher. He hasn't been involved in any major storylines. He's had a couple of major matches but nothing really worth writing home about. The swell of support is only going to grow.

The best thing they can do right now is nothing at all. His promos are exciting. His matches are fun. He's been in the ring with a lot of the big names on Raw now so they might be swapping him for someone like Corbin, but if they just hold him as he is the fans are just going to get more and more determined to turn him face. When they do that, he'll be huge, but he'll be stuck where he is until he turns heel again. 

I seriously can't wait though. I love this guy.

Tom, you need to tell your drug dealer to lay off the straight product and to put more filler into your clear ziplock bag. To see someone paint Elias' promos like are are this great thing is vomit inducing. And I still have no idea what planet the people who like him are on. 

Anyway it's gotten to the point where I don't even watch this guy anymore. I literally either turn the volume down so I am not tortured or outright change the channel when he comes on, especially if he comes with a guitar, as I know he'll be on a while. 

The guy sucks in every way and he is the first guy I have ever actively wished to see released. That will be a great day.  


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 11/March/2018 at 20:10
Kondor - you need to face facts, embrace the moment and Walk With Elias

I think you are the only person i have seen say anything bad about him.

His promos are fantastic and whilst may air on the side of being repetitive, always engage the crowd and you can hear the laughs when he drops whatever insult he has conjured up

Elias will not be released, the only thing being released will be his potential when he picks up singles gold sooner rather than later


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 12/March/2018 at 14:06
Elias has star potential. In the future they may have to tone down the guitar playing gimmick as its very much a mid-card act but I could easily see him progressing up to main event level down the line.

I'm a big fan, his guitar playing promos are always entertaining and the guy is decent in the ring.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 13/March/2018 at 14:30
I mark a little every time I see him drop an elbow off the top rope. Right now he is a shining star in the mid-card. He's going to need more though if he's going to get to main event.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 13/March/2018 at 18:59
According to sources, Elias is being lined up to be Strowmans partner in the Tag Title match at Mania - what a day to be alive Mania day will be if that happens

Everyone

Walk With Elias


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 13/March/2018 at 20:38
I think I'd rather James Elsworth.

Elias should just give a concert at mania, and then challenge for the IC title following the PPV. No need to shoe horn him into some place he doesn't belong.


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Posted By: Dukezilla
Date Posted: 27/March/2018 at 08:35
This week on Raw, Elias not only once again subjected viewers to his stale act, but contributed to the near extinction of the rhinoceros.

For shame.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 27/March/2018 at 22:01
Another excellent song from Elias - absolute gold

Walk With Elias


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 28/March/2018 at 11:49
Originally posted by Dukezilla Dukezilla wrote:

This week on Raw, Elias not only once again subjected viewers to his stale act, but contributed to the near extinction of the rhinoceros.

For shame.
 
Agreed. His repetitive same old bland act is getting boring again, when for a while it was interesting.
 
Quote Elias gets in the ring with his guitar, and asks the crowd who's walking with Elias. He sings a song trashing Cleveland sports teams, and about WrestleMania. Rhyno comes out to interrupt, and we have a match.

- Rhyno vs. Elias: Heath Slater is at ringside. Elias and Rhyno trade strikes in the opening moments. Rhyno drops Elias with a shoulder tackle, but Elias fights back with an elbow to the face. Elias stomps on Rhyno while he's down. Rhyno fights his way up and hits some chops and some clotheslines. Elias fights back with a knee to the face and a clothesline of his own. Elias hits the Drift Away for the three count.

Winner: Elias

- After the match, Slater checks on Rhyno. Elisas attacks Slater and hits the Drift Away on him too before leaving.

Kurt should tell the crowd why he gives Elias a weekly solo in ring segment, when he's so far down the card he's in the clusterfuck royal at Mania.
 
Nobody outside of Cleveland is going to care about him bashing their sports team.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 29/March/2018 at 18:56
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Nobody outside of Cleveland is going to care about him bashing their sports team.

Thats the whole point

The purpose of his weekly segments is to antagonise the crowd ... he does a good job of that every week and they are quite funny.

His in ring work is top notch too and he has all the attributes to be a huge star


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 04/April/2018 at 14:20
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

The purpose of his weekly segments is to antagonise the crowd ... he does a good job of that every week and they are quite funny.
 
It's just boring for the millions at home when he can only think of one way to get heel heat from the live crowd.
 
Quote Elias is in the ring for a song. He talks about how everyone will want to walk with him after WrestleMania. He starts trashing the Atlanta crowd, and guarantees his greatest performance ever on Sunday. Rhyno and Slater come out to interrupt.

- Elias vs. Heath Slater: The opening bell sounds and Elias takes the fight to the corner. Elias hits a big lariat then looks for a splash in the corner, but Slater dodges it. Slater starts firing up, but Elias shuts him down with a knee to the face. Elias follows up with the Dirft Away for the three count after a quick match.

Winner: Elias

- Elias points to the WrestleMania sign after the match.

Being on the pre show he could very well be the partner of Braun.
 
He has to be one of the favourites with the history the two have and with him getting a good rest between the battle royal and the main show.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 04/April/2018 at 18:49
Its not the only way he gets heat at all.

He gets heat by attacking people and his antics during matches.

His promos are simply a way to set up his weekly matches whilst getting the crowd interested again - incase you hadnt noticed, the crowd are more involved with his promos (especially the Walk With Elias) than they are with most other superstars


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 10/April/2018 at 14:10
Quote Elias comes down to the ring now for a song. Elias has some fun with the fans who repeatedly chant at him. Elias gets interrupted by the returning Bobby Lashley! Lashley hits the ring and drops Elias with a neckbreaker. Lashley picks up Elias for a vertical suplex and he holds him up one-handed for a while then slams him. Lashley heads to the back and high-fives the fans on the aisle.
 
Cena and Lashley beating him up on back to back nights. He's highly thought of to be the go to heel to get a babyface more over.
 
It's funny how dumb live crowds are to suck up to him when they know every time he's going to put them down.
 
Be good if a live audience when he asks them what WWE stands for, they stay totally silent and see how he reacts to them after that. At least it would be different to same old shit.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 10/April/2018 at 19:28
Proving again that he is one of the most over guys on the roster and an absolutely insane talent

The guy could do with some form of gold to capitalise on this momentum


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 13/April/2018 at 15:19
So could about 18 different guys on the roster; there are only so many titles.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 16/April/2018 at 05:21
IMO titles should go on those who are the most over and those who are featured the most on TV. Bray Wyatt I feel like should have been US champion for the better part of the first few years after he debuted. As for right now, Elias should be a major part of the intercontinental championship picture imo. Even if he isnt champion, he ought to be seen as the big contender.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 16/April/2018 at 18:47
Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

So could about 18 different guys on the roster; there are only so many titles.

Such as ....?



I agree with Rico above.

If you look around both rosters, the most over guys with exception of Elias are involved with storylines around a title or are infact the champion of some description.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 17/April/2018 at 15:26
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

The guy could do with some form of gold to capitalise on this momentum

The problem there is he never wins a fued, so on win/loss records he should be nowhere near a title picture. If that happened then in Boxing terms it would be like David Price being the next to face Anthony Joshua.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqTxzh6KTNY

Such a busy Raw that you only get a few minutes backstage, where hilliariously Renee Young cut him off LOL

I suppose that was her payback for him getting her name wrong at the start of the segment.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 15/May/2018 at 19:07
It's absolutely criminal the fact that Elias did not qualify for MITB

Whats even more criminal is that Kevin Owens interrupted him 

The crowd were ready to Walk With Elias and quite frankly i feel (and they will too) that they have been robbed


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 21/May/2018 at 16:29
I don't mind the crowd reacting to him when he asks them if they want to walk with him.

But if he's an heel he should be getting boos. He needs switching.

I think Kon would have been more of a fan of Elias when he was a Rosebud......




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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 21/May/2018 at 17:53
So... I see Becky Lynch, I see Simon Gotch, I see Elias, I see Braun Strowman, but I'm not sure about the others... Is the purple one in the mask Carmella? Unless that blond with the big boobs is Dana Brooke, and it doesn't look like her to me, then I have no idea who she is, and I have no clue who any of the others are at all.

Is the guy in the back with the beard the fatty that kept getting winded and was in a horrible feud with Baron Corbin in NXT for a while?

I miss Leo Kruger, such a shame they changed his gimmick to Adam Rose.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 21/May/2018 at 18:08
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

I don't mind the crowd reacting to him when he asks them if they want to walk with him.

But if he's an heel he should be getting boos. He needs switching.


Not sure how many times i can post about people cheering who they want regardless of the traditional portrayal of the heel or face persona.


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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 22/May/2018 at 09:21
His character doesn't even need changing though I do believe a face turn is in order he's literally doing nothing as a heel as face he could probably do a lot more he'd definitely be good midcard face maybe even a borderline main event face.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 23/May/2018 at 11:47
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

Not sure how many times i can post about people cheering who they want regardless of the traditional portrayal of the heel or face persona.
 
But he's a shit heel. He makes it easy for himself to get a babyface pop, by pandering to the crowd and having a catchy face catchphrase.
 
Quote Elias is out to the ring for a song. The crowd chants along with Elias to start. Elias takes credit for WWE's stock being at record highs, and he takes some shots at Albany. Bobby Roode's music hits, and we have a match. As Roode gets in the ring, Elias attacks Roode from behind and beats him down before the bell. Roode tells the ref he's good to go, and the ref calls for the opening bell.

- Elias vs. Bobby Roode: Roode fires up and unloads on Elias with strikes. Roode sends Elias out to the ringside floor and Roode stands tall in the ring. Back on the mat, Elias comes back with a clothesline on Roode. Elias works on keeping Roode grounded now, until Roode fights up and hits a big spinebuster for a two count. Roode looks for the DDT, but Elias counters and backdrops him. Elias hits knee, but then Roose fires back with a kick. Roode misses the blockbuster, and he starts selling a knee injury off the landing. Roode connects with a swinging neckbreaker on Elias, and then he goes up top. Elias crotches Roode on the top rope, then Elias pulls Roode down and hits the Drift Away for the three count.

Winner: Elias

- Elias heads up the ramp after the match. Before Elias can get to the curtain, Braun Strowman comes charging out and he levels Elias by bumping into him. Braun heads down to the ring for his main event match with Balor.

It's about time he stopped with the walk with Elias crap and played the heel he's suppose to be.
 
He's just doing the same old shit every week, so it's long been stale. I would save his in ring concerts for now and then, instead of every week.


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 23/May/2018 at 11:53
Elias has been pushed like a face his whole time on the main roster. People who love faces love him. People who love heels love him. It's perfect.

I have to disagree about the catchphrases. I haven't seen a catchphrase get over like this since the first year of The Rock. Elias right now is becoming a real draw for the company and he's only just starting his second year. 


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 23/May/2018 at 16:29
Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

Elias has been pushed like a face his whole time on the main roster. People who love faces love him. People who love heels love him. It's perfect.

I have to disagree about the catchphrases. I haven't seen a catchphrase get over like this since the first year of The Rock. Elias right now is becoming a real draw for the company and he's only just starting his second year. 

Not sure how he's been pushed as a babyface when all the opponents he's fued with have been faces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqEba5NBIhg

Catchy catchphrases are for babyfaces, not heels. He should be stopping mid phrase to tell the crowd off like when Hollywood Rock would to saying FINALLY.

If they are to use him the way they are they need to do a proper turn for him and have him fued with guys like Jinder.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 23/May/2018 at 17:36
Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

Elias has been pushed like a face his whole time on the main roster. People who love faces love him. People who love heels love him. It's perfect.

I have to disagree about the catchphrases. I haven't seen a catchphrase get over like this since the first year of The Rock. Elias right now is becoming a real draw for the company and he's only just starting his second year. 


100% agree with this

Elias and his catchphrases (Who wants to walk with Elias ? and WWE stands for Walk With Elias) are super over and i agree its the perfect situation for both Elias himself and the WWE.


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 24/May/2018 at 07:55
Kind of answered your own question there, didn't you, Ad?

When they're ready to turn him all the company has to do is have one of their pocket journalists leak a story about the company hold him back, or have Elias in an interview say "I really love connecting with the audience but the company thinks I have a big future as a bad guy"

The fans will then think they've turned him on their own.


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Posted By: 4 of em
Date Posted: 29/May/2018 at 01:43
Might be about time Bob Dylan moves on. How long has he been on the main roster and really no major feuds, not much of anything to show for his time but, who wants to walk with Elias ? Crowds will shout or cheer anything , you know, seems everyone gets the , you deserve it , chant whether they actually do or not. Much like a few other talents, WWE doesn't seem to know what to do with them.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 29/May/2018 at 17:48
Elias was gold yet again on Raw this week.

I like the slight change to his gimmick where as he is being interrupted before he can even do his performance now which is bringing out a more aggressive side to him.

I laughed out loud at his comment about the lighting not being good enough because of the crowd being particularly disgusting

The guitar smash to Rollins was brutal and im hoping this leads to an Elias Rollins match at MITB for the IC title.


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Posted By: 4 of em
Date Posted: 29/May/2018 at 19:14
Same stuff with Elias , who wants to walk , I need silence , blah blah blah. This is a great talent going to waste cause WWE doesn’t use him correctly.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 30/May/2018 at 13:25
Originally posted by 4 of em 4 of em wrote:

Same stuff with Elias , who wants to walk , I need silence , blah blah blah. This is a great talent going to waste cause WWE doesn’t use him correctly.
 
I agree. It's got to the point where you can skip his segments and don't even have to ask someone what's happened, as you can guess it.
 
Quote Elias is in the ring for a song now. Elias trashes the "particularly disgusting" Virginia crowd, and then he starts his song. Elias keeps getting interrupted, and we go to commercial.

- Back from the break, Elias is still in the ring trying to get the crowd to be quiet for his song. Seth Rollins comes out to interrupt, and he hits the ring. Rollins throws Elias' chair out of the ring, and tells him to get lost. Elias leaves, and then Sunil Singh comes out to introduce Jinder Mahal, and we have a match.

I don't remember him asking the crowd who wants to walk with Elias. That's a plus point having your heel not say such a babyface pop catchphrase.
 
I'm surprised he didn't get involved in the Rollins/Jinder match and just stuck to doing his Jeff Jarrett guitar shot immitation.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 30/May/2018 at 13:55
He did ask .... he asked before he started complaining about the lighting.

What he didnt do was the : WWE stands for Walk With Elias bit

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 19/June/2018 at 19:15
Elias song this week was even better than his previous efforts

His in ring ability is great and he has the look too - the guy is huge.  I read something a few weeks ago that WWE were considering Elias as Brocks next challenger and i wouldnt be against that, however i think he could do with a few more high profile runs - at PPV level too - to give him that momentum.


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Posted By: 4 of em
Date Posted: 26/July/2018 at 12:58
So now he’s calling out Chris Jericho. You can’t tell me that there isn’t enough talent for him to fued with. Yet another superstar that’s getting lost in the crowd and is getting stale with his, Who wants to walk with Elias and WWE stands for. He does more attempted singing than actual wrestling. So , I wonder now will Jericho show up again before the end of the year. ?

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Posted By: 4 of em
Date Posted: 07/August/2018 at 02:05
Absolute bore. Same gimmick, different week. Put Elias and No Way Jose on a boat to Impact or some low budget independent wrestling alliance that wrestles in high school gyms

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 04/September/2018 at 13:30
Quote Elias is in the ring now under the spotlight for a performance. Elias leads the crowd in a "Walk with Elias" chant, and then trashes Columbus, Ohio and the Buckeyes. He says he wrote a song about the rotten people of this city, and he asks everyone to shut up for his performance. Before Elias can sing, he is interruped by Alexa Bliss, Mickie James and Alicie Fox. They hit the ring and Alexa talks about being from Alexa and gets a hometown pop. She then trashes her hometown and calls them sheep. She says everything Elias said about her hometown is 100% true. Alexa comes out and trashes Trish Stratus for her action last week, and Elias couldn't agree more. Alexa says she wants to walk with Elias, and Elias starts a song. Ronda Rousey comes out to the stage to interrupt next, and then Natalya comes out, and we have a match.
 
Having women interupt him these past few weeks, has added another dimension to his character.
 
He is afterall supposedly a rock star and with drink and drugs, women is one of the three things most associated with them.
 
It would actually be awesome to have a particular female escort him to the ring every week.


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Posted By: 4 of em
Date Posted: 02/October/2018 at 15:39
Not a fan of who wants to walk with Elias , that’s old , move on and try something different , maybe like wrestling , there’s a thought.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 02/October/2018 at 19:41
Man he and Owens got some of the most crazy heat I've ever heard this week. Like Graves said, they really hit a sore spot in Seattle talking about how they don't deserve to have a basketball team. lol

Is smackdown supposed to be in Seattle tonight as well? Seems a shame not to utilize Daniel Bryan in Seattle as he was nearly as over as the Seahawks, and now that he's wearing Seahawk colors, the pop for him would have been gigantic. I guess I'll see where they are soon enough.


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