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Topic: Kurt Angle On Raw
Posted By: admin
Subject: Kurt Angle On Raw
Date Posted: 04/April/2017 at 11:50
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McMahon says the show must go on. Since the commissioner is out of action and there is no GM, it’s time to name a new General Manager. This man was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame.

Teddy Long’s music hits, and the 2017 Hall Of Fame inductee comes out to the stage dancing. McMahon angrily tells the truck to stop his music and demands he stop dancing. McMahon says it isn’t him. Long is confused. Long says, "My bad – Holla, holla, holla!" McMahon then announces the new General Manager of RAW, but no one comes out. Finally McMahon says, "Ladies and gentlemen, your new General Manager of RAW – Kurt Angle!"

The crowd loudly pops as Kurt Angle makes his way to the ring smiling. The crowd loudly chants, "You Suck" along with his music. McMahon hands him the microphone and leaves the ring. A loud, "Welcome back" chant fires up. Angle says it’s great to be back on Monday Night RAW. Angle finishes by saying, "Oh it’s true… it’s DAMN true!"

 
Lovely troll by E. I'd have gone one step further and kept Long as GM, sack him at the end of the show and save Kurt until next week to wind up the live crowd.
 
I know people want him to wrestle a few times a year. I agree but the build up for his first match back should take a year until next Wrestlemania.
 
I'd like him to be building up tension with a number of his roster so it keeps us guessing who might be his first match back in 12 months time at Wrestlemania 34.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 04/April/2017 at 14:45
Angle seemed a bit rusty on his naive comedic timing. He knew where to go and how to do it, but with his timing a bit off the humor fell a bit flat. Regardless, I still appreciated that he mentioned "that's not how you spell soft" after his interaction with Cass and Enzo. It was a classic bit of Angle-esque humor and I'm sure once he finds his groove he will be great.

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Posted By: ACIDO
Date Posted: 07/April/2017 at 16:07
It was a good segment where Vince didnt say that much, but he got them going with the comments about Steph. And then it made me laugh when they fooled us with Teddy Long appearing.
But theres so much potential here now with Kirk Angel (thats what Y2J used to call him lol) coming back as the GM.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 09/April/2017 at 22:24
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Angle seemed a bit rusty on his naive comedic timing. He knew where to go and how to do it, but with his timing a bit off the humor fell a bit flat.

I agree with that. Bit too much smiley cheese. Probably first night back on Raw nerves. I suspect whatever skits he's in tomorrow night will be a better Kurt.

Quote From Jim Ross Website

Kurt Angle as the new, RAW GM is a smart booking. The 2017 HOFER will be a big time 'get' for the RAW brand. I think that it also sets in motion, if desired, for a retirement match with Kurt vs some lucky talent would be a great attraction in NOLA for WM34. 

I'd disagree. I don't see Kurt retiring for a few years yet unless his health gets worse.

The big four events for the next two years retiring after comeback match number 8 at Wrestlemania 35 is how i'd do it.


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Posted By: ACIDO
Date Posted: 10/April/2017 at 20:54
I think theres some classic comedy material there between just him and Enzo alone. I thought the 'soft' comment was funny.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 03/May/2017 at 22:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WmIR3PdKzg

Taz on his show brought up a good point asking do we see enough of Kurt on Raw? I would say probably not.

He doesn't have to polute the show like Stephanie does, but for the man in charge he's rarely in front of the live crowd.

Maybe management are trying to stop regular YOU SUCK chants which anyone who chants it to him are an idiot when he's a babyface and someone they love. Doesn't make sense and isn't funny.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 03/May/2017 at 23:34

THIS is why people still chant "You suck!" even though he's a babyface, and this is why he's not phased by it.

He makes his return from injury and as a babyface leads them in a "you suck" chant simply because he misses them.

After watching this again, I really hope he embraces the "What!?" chants as well. Those were nearly as much a part of his gimmick as they were Austin's.

Honestly though, I hope he turns heel, and keeps up his babyface personality and just gets pissed at the You Suck and What!? chants and keeps sucking up to the audience in a condescending tone. Kind of like how Bobby Roode is doing in NXT ATM.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 08/May/2017 at 19:45
Quote WWE Hall of Famer and RAW http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/general-manager" rel="nofollow - General Manager Kurt Angle recently did a https://www.facebook.com/realkurtangle/" rel="nofollow - t. Here are the highlights.

On possibly wrestling again in WWE:

“Yes. I don’t know when, but I will wrestle again. It’s true!”

On http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/roman-reigns" rel="nofollow - Roman Reigns :

“Yes, Roman is fine. He has a huge future too. Roman has potential to be “the face” of WWE. Let’s see how he pans out.”

On his favorite part thus far as RAW GM:

“My favorite moment has been getting in the ring with the likes of http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/seth-rollins" rel="nofollow - Seth Rollins and Bray Wyatt. It’s like having a past legend meet a future legend. It hardly ever happens but it did for me.”

 
Kurt doesn't know when he will wrestle again but most fans know it's going to be Wrestlemania lets be honest and he probably knows that too.
 
I hope Kurt isn't back on the drugs to think Roman Reigns could be the face of the company.
 
Good to see him putting over two talented guys who have brilliant futures ahead.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 08/May/2017 at 20:06
How 'bout Kurt Angle vs Daniel Bryan in a suplexes only last man standing match next wrestlemania?

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 31/May/2017 at 13:48
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

How 'bout Kurt Angle vs Daniel Bryan in a suplexes only last man standing match next wrestlemania?

You aiming for a couple of deaths or at least a paralysed for life there LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgoVkY7BBFw

AT LAST something interesting appears to being done with Kurt. No idea what though.

Could well be the start of a big who dunnit storyline that can drag on a while before he has to step foot back in an E ring.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 18/July/2017 at 06:11
NOT Chad Gable? Well I guess Jason Jordan is better than Hornswoggle. As soon as Kurt started talking about dating someone many years ago, I knew where they were heading and I just KNEW it was Chad Gable. I wasn't too far off I guess.

Apparently this is the end of American Alpha.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 09/August/2017 at 11:24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg23g07evCY

Why are they booking him as a dumbass that shouldn't be in the general manager position?

First he accepts he's got a son without any proof (unless I missed the DNA test) and now he's making a Summerslam match thinking it was his idea but just repeating what the heel asked for.

They didn't need to make him go to Canada for how little he was actually used monday night.


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Posted By: 05TexasRanger
Date Posted: 17/November/2017 at 20:57
Kurt Angle is a legit, Badass Hall of Fame professional wrestler. Respect. Unfortunately, after becoming the WWE Raw General Manager, much like many of the great characters from NXT, the Angle character assasination begins. As GM, his character is weak. Wrestlers run over him, take advantage of him, and he rarely is decisive, taking charge or usurping authority. He just stands in the ring with that dumb look on his face and takes whatever comes his way. He has become just like Mick Foley. And what Stephanie did to dump Foley from GM, she was about to do with Kurt until the Shield interrupted. Which I don’t think is doing him any favors. Being saddled with this ludicrous “son” angle, it is only going to get worse. The “You Suck” chants are going to be for real rather than nostalgia. I think he should resign and join the ranks of the wrestlers. Hopefully, soon, Jason Jordan will turn heel on Angle and reveal that he is not Kurt Angle’s son. It was all a ruse. Then, Angle can start rebuilding his character. As for now, it hurts to see him each week, berated and abused. Man up Kurt!


Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 02/January/2018 at 15:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pl-TSs97J4

What's happened to Kurt? He used to be great on the mic, but now he comes across as so uneasy.

How he spoke about the female Rumble he seemed to screw up and then think quickly of a way to save himself by telling the fans why he refered to a specific Rumble.

He's still a babyface so why would you split up a end of show brawl when fans are going to turn against you for putting a stop to something they want to see? Poor booking.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 02/January/2018 at 16:18
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pl-TSs97J4

What's happened to Kurt? He used to be great on the mic, but now he comes across as so uneasy.

How he spoke about the female Rumble he seemed to screw up and then think quickly of a way to save himself by telling the fans why he refered to a specific Rumble.

He's still a babyface so why would you split up a end of show brawl when fans are going to turn against you for putting a stop to something they want to see? Poor booking.


It’s funny when he said John Cena will be a entrant in the Royal Rumble match then emphasised how it would be the MENS match I instantly thought well thanks for clearing that up for me Kurt because I was a bit baffled thinking he might enter the ladies match

I agree Kurt isn’t the most smooth on the mic, he comes across as a bit of a meat-head jock type which perhaps is his true personality.

I think in time he will turn heel, it’s a much more natural fit for him. I think it’s the face role that makes him come across as awkward.

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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 02/January/2018 at 17:52
Guy's had a few hits on the head, you know?

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 02/January/2018 at 18:44
Kurts best work on the mic is when hes heel - he seems to struggle with the babyface stuff and all of the corporate stuff he seems like he has to really think about what words he uses

He was also phenomenal doing the comedy skit stuff he did during his first WWE stint but the babyface pandering to the crowd and trying to sell the product does not seem to be his style at all


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 10/April/2018 at 14:21
Quote Kurt Angle is in the back on the phone talking about how excited he is to have Lashley and No Way Jose here. Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn walk in, who explain that they had a falling out with management. Kurt interrupts and asks if they came here looking for a job, which they answer yes. Kurt says that's rough, because they got fired for attacking their GM and commissioner. Kurt says his tag division is full, but he "heard TNA is hiring." The crowd gets loud for that line, and Owens and Zayn plead for a job. Kurt says he'll offer them an opportunity, but Owens and Zayn have to fight each other to earn it. Owens and Zayn walk off, and Kurt says this is going to get interesting.
 
Wrestlemania he didn't miss a beat and proved he's ready to be let go in a one on one match.
 
Last night he didn't fluff any lines and his TNA line got a brilliant crowd pop and made me laugh.
 
I am surprised he's still the GM of Raw. I thought he might have been fired for beating his bosses.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 10/April/2018 at 14:38
Same here. Why Stephanie didn't address Angle is beyond me.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 10/April/2018 at 18:38
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Same here. Why Stephanie didn't address Angle is beyond me.

Because why would she - it would take the focus off Rousey which is what this whole angle has been about

Angle was only put in there to help her out in her first match


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 10/April/2018 at 20:35
Um... only if it was done in the same damned segment, which it shouldn't have. I suppose the excuse could be that 'she was injured' so she didn't get around to it, but seriously, Angle fought Stephanie and caused all this trouble, so he should be in the deepest of shit with Stephanie as Commissioner and he as her General Manager.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 21/August/2018 at 17:07
Anyone hear about Angle needing time off for a surgery or anything like that? I'm just wondering if Angle is legitimately going to be gone for a while from TV, or if, even though he was relieved of his duties he might still be around? I have to admit that Baron Corbin as an authority figure is pretty good. I've always found him so boring it's pathetic, but I'm warming up to him like this. Even so I'd prefer to still have Kurt Angle around. Maybe he'll wrestle? I would love it if Corbin forced Angle to wrestle in 'embarrassing' and 'unfair' matches as a form of revenge.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 29/August/2018 at 13:40
Quote Kurt Angle was also reportedly backstage at the events in Toronto and is set to return to WWE TV imminently. As noted before, he is actually in training in preparation for a return to the ring, likely for a series of matches but not for a full-time return. The rumored program WWE has in mind for Angle is to see him return to wrestle Baron Corbin.
 
Good. Despite the rubbish he can sometimes come out with, I did miss him this past monday.
 
Steph worded it to him that he wouldn't be away long, so he should be back next week or the week after at the latest.
 
Seeing Kurt in a one on one match in E should be a special occasion, as it's been so long.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 06/November/2018 at 20:16
So after not working a singles match in WWE for around 12 years Kurt loses to Dolph Ziggler clean at Crown Jewel and on Raw he lost to McIntyre, what was interesting was the booking of the match with McIntyre, of course Drew won clean but extremely easily and using Kurts own hold, Angle was completely jobbed out in humiliating fashion, Drew dominated him and walked to a easy victory.

Not sure if this is all part of a storyline which is building to something bigger for Kurt but surprises me that he’s being booked this way, there was money in several dream matches between Kurt and several members of the roster that could have been booked at major PPV events but they’ve all big killed his star power by jobbing him out in two fairly low key matches.

Maybe WWE don’t have faith in Angle’s in ring ability anymore and think that as he’s lost a step best just to use him to enhance younger talent.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 07/November/2018 at 15:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGOIG2Go0zE

Horrible booking. He looked like a old man who didn't belong there and should have been on Main Event with talent like B Team and other Raw jobbers.

How bad the defeat was for Kurt was played up as the show went off air and with a close up of him looking upset, so I suspect the loss happened for a reason and is leading somewhere for him.

He's a HOF top level guy and babyface, yet couldn't avoid either of his own finishers and tapped out. You could hear the crowd gasps as soon as it happened in shock.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 07/November/2018 at 16:32
He did look really bad, but you know what? He's also the Raw GM and the first ever Hall of Fame inductee to wrestle multiple matches for the WWE following his induction. Throughout history it's been a pretty clear cut case of getting inducted in the WWE HoF means your in-ring career is over.

To me, this just shows that being inducted shows your career is over. Look at Ric Flair & Shawn Michaels. Dude they look like shit in the ring, and no matter how much people might want to see HBK wrestle, he just ain't HBK anymore, and Angle isn't the monster he used to be either. Stay retired, if you need to put people over once in a while, fine, but that's it.


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 08/November/2018 at 12:10
Kurt isn't there to look good; he's there to make people buy tickets and watch matches where other people look good. McIntyre beat Kurt Angle by submission in the main event of Raw. You can make a career off of that.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 08/November/2018 at 22:16
Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

Kurt isn't there to look good; he's there to make people buy tickets and watch matches where other people look good. McIntyre beat Kurt Angle by submission in the main event of Raw. You can make a career off of that.
 
More so if it had happened as a match at the end of a long storyline, with the pay off on PPV.
 
Quote According to a report by Sports Illustrated, the match between Drew McIntyre and Kurt Angle at this past Monday's Raw was drawn up by both Angle himself and Vince McMahon. The story that Angle wanted to tell was that he still wanted to compete but that the "younger, ruthless kid" was simply too much to overcome. Thus, the match played out where McIntyre brutalized Angle and seemingly destroyed his shot at being part of the Raw team at Survivor Series.

-- The story also goes on to note that after McMahon and Angle met to iron out the details of the match, it was Kurt who then presented the creative to McIntyre. The two have a history with one another as Angle specifically wanted to put over McIntyre in 2016 before he left TNA and this match, was also Angle being "selfless" to help get McIntyre over.

Credit to Kurt, but if that kind of defeat becomes a regular thing people will stop caring about him.
 
His first match on Raw for 12 years (one on one too) and it taking place on a foreign tour should have been made much more of a big deal.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 09/November/2018 at 17:46
Yeah that was exactly my point. I have no issue with Kurt Angle being used to put young talent over, my issue was that after having Kurt back in the company for so long without wrestling a singles match they decide to more or less give his first singles outings away in a low key match at Crown Jewel and then against McIntyre on Raw.

Using veteran Kurt to enhance a up and comer is smart but do it on a PPV for a bigger pay off.

On a positive note the booking of Drew McIntyre was superb, he looked a absolute beast I can’t remember when WWE last booked a heel so strongly.

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