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Topic: WWE Wrestlemania 34
Posted By: admin
Subject: WWE Wrestlemania 34
Date Posted: 02/January/2017 at 19:28
[QUOTE] WrestleMania 34 will be returning to the site of the WrestleMania 30 next year, according to F4WOnline.com.

The Wrestling Observer website reported this week that while yet to be officially announced by WWE, an announcement is expected soon regarding next year's WrestleMania returning to The Superdome in New Orleans, Louisiana.

WWE held WrestleMania 30 in the same venue in the same location just a few years ago for the show led by the crowning of Daniel Bryan as WWE Champion. [\QUOTE]

Strange decision to go back there so soon.

It must annoy a lot of fans Stateside that dozens of states never get the show and same few always appear to get lucky.

I suppose it will pull in the foreign crowd with it being a party place.

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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 02/January/2017 at 20:07
It's all about the size of the arena in recent years isn't it? I know WWE need a big arena for WM but with all the NFL stadiums out there, surely they got plenty of arenas they can use?

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 02/January/2017 at 23:34
I hope they get Hulk Hogan to host the event.

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Posted By: ihatethatmonkee
Date Posted: 04/January/2017 at 20:06
some NFL stadiums still need to be updated, there are only a handful who could legitimately host a Mania event under the current conditions of the events locale

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Posted By: LennyComa
Date Posted: 04/January/2017 at 22:50
You would think the Baseball arena's would be able to hold enough for WWE PPV's too. It could be the lack of roofs for some places but WWE have had open air arena's for PPV's before so that isn't an issue for them...it just looks shit a bit for the first few hours until the sun fucks off

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 10/January/2017 at 22:40
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

I hope they get Hulk Hogan to host the event.


I don't. I hope he's never seen on E programming again because the company should always be looking to the future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x5hz6UOWoc

So the worst kept secret in wrestling has finally been made official. You'd think E themselves would want to make the announcement first.

Would anyone on here want to go to it?


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 11/January/2017 at 01:55
I didn't even go to the one in my backyard of Santa Clara. The only other one I could possibly go to is if it were in Seattle again, then it'd be in my wife's backyard.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 11/January/2017 at 14:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdYwHFvYNxE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nguoHKvhTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJxqhmlbXZY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HOw6t8i2rI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7gN9Ap1pR8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwHCKHtJSMw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe0yOIfZsZg

They should have posted the press conference in full instead of cutting it down into so many pieces.

When the same place is getting the biggest show of the year so soon after the last time, it makes the "WWE Universe" phrase a mockery.

There are enough places around the world to have Wrestlemania somewhere just once in around a century so it truely is once in a lifetime for locals.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 16/March/2017 at 18:25
Quote WrestleMania 33 is two weeks away but WWE is already looking ahead to next year’s WrestleMania 34 in New Orleans. The Wrestling Observer newsletter reports that the company has already locked in Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns as the main event for next year’s show. The idea is for that show to be Reigns’ official coronation as their new top star. That was the plan a couple of years ago in Santa Clara but they had to change things up with the finish of the match because of the negative crowd reactions towards Reigns. Obviously, things can change within a year but that is the plan for next year.

None of this means that Reigns will beat The Undertaker at this year’s show and it doesn’t necessarily mean that Brock Lesnar will have a one-year title reign but both scenarios are possible. The one thing that is clear is that Vince McMahon is absolutely set on making Reigns into the next John Cena.

McMahon’s long-term plan is to fully replace Cena as the top babyface. It’s something they feel the need to do with Cena being gone so much to work on TV and movie roles.

It’s hard to see how WWE can turn fan perception around for Reigns. He continues to get positive fan reactions at the house shows but mixed reactions (and often very negative) at the TV shows. He gets mostly negative reactions on pay-per-views where you’ll see more hardcore fans.


The plan here should be simple.....

Use Roman Reigns vs The Undertaker at Wrestlemania this year to transition Roman in to a heel, use the following 9-10 months to get him red hot as a heel which should be easy as I think Reigns will be a excellent dominant heel in the Batista mold.

Between the Royal Rumble and Mania 34 at which time fan support for Roman should be peaking start the slow burn to turning him back face finally pulling the trigger a few weeks before WM, perhaps at the Fastlane event.

Then he topples Brock for the title at the event and holds the title aloft as a babyface once again cementing his status as the new top player in the company. Easy.

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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 16/March/2017 at 19:26
Hmmm, I could handle Reigns main eventing next years WM as long as they do make him go super human all year. If they could go the route of having him not winning the title during the year then i'm all for it. 

However I am against a long Lesnar reign again as they have Balor, Rollins, KO, Strowman, all good for a run with the title if booked properly. A short term Lesnar title reign i'm fine with, but nothing more than 2/3 months.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 18/March/2017 at 11:28
Another rumour I've seen is Roman will be drafted to Smackdown to keep him away from Brock for a year before he challenges at Wrestlemania 34. This would still allow for a heel turn and even a feud with his old buddy Dean Ambrose over on the blue brand.

WWE really should enforce the heel turn as while Reigns might be popular with kids and shifting a fair bit of merchandise the fact is the more hardcore fans despise him, a heel turn may not fix that but it's certainly worth a try.

Trouble is my gut feeling is WWE will continue with him as a face and just use the excuse he gets a strong reaction even if it's mixed using the whole no one provokes such emotion and passion from the fans the same way they have with John Cena for years.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 18/March/2017 at 15:05
I think his merch numbers and the fact that he's popular with the women and children has re-enforced the idea to WWE execs that Reigns should stay babyface, because he is not only creatively walking in the footsteps of John Cena, he is now also financially walking in the footsteps of John Cena.

I used to think it was a sure thing that sooner or later Reigns would turn face before he could get so universally hated by the hardcore fans 18-45 male fans, but at this point I think that window has just about closed on that, and they're just gonna go full-Cena on Reigns and that's all there is to it.

If that's their goal, then the best thing they could do to make everyone happy is reunite the Shield, and officially launch the run of the The Balor Club, and in time, bring up Sanity and Author's of Pain to feud with as well.

They can continue to take part in singles competition as well, but as long as the Shield is officially a unit, Reigns popularity shouldn't drop too low, and it'd only help him, as well as Rollins and Ambrose.

It wouldn't be hard to continue running with things just as they are (aside from Ambrose needing to be on the same brand) and run their entrance music just the same when they in singles competition. The only difference would be having to get Reigns his own unique entrance music, and having different ring gear depending on what identity they were wrestling as. Shield gear for Shield-related matches, and their current ring-gear for when they're just doing something on their own. With about 2 sentences from the announce team people would get it both quickly and easily.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 19/March/2017 at 10:07
I think WWE have accepted that the top guy in the company will always get a split reaction because the hardcore fans know he's the chosen one of management and not necessarily someone who got to the top organically by building fan support through his performances and rising up the card as a result. For this reason that guy will always get a negative reaction from those fans, a heel turn for Reigns may not change that because while Roman might do a excellent job as a heel and win over a few of those people they will all still know he's the golden boy of Vince McMahon and will probably never be as universally popular as guys like Daniel Bryan and AJ Styles who won over fans purely on their ability inside the ring and also the fact they inspire fans because they didn't have the help of being stereotypical superstars with the whole Hollywood billboard look.

In some ways this isn't such a bad thing, Reigns will still sell tickets and merchandise which is the most important quality he neeeds after all, the mixed reaction also alllows him to easily work more tweener for feuds with fellow faces, I enjoyed his work with AJ when Styles was still a face and he's also had matches with Finn Balor and of course his upcoming match with The Undertaker. A switch to Smackdown may also allow for a passing of the torch match between Reigns and Cena which is something I'd like to see.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 18/October/2017 at 22:29
Tickets go on sale in four weeks, so Wrestlemania Season will have officially started........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6tnPW1TXP4

We will have months of rumours about Undertaker having a match, as that's a annual topic we talk about.

I think this is when Brock will drop the title he's already long overdue to do.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 19/October/2017 at 05:43
At this point he might as well hold until Mania, unless he drops to Jinder... Wouldn't that be disgusting? Someone needs to beat Brock and beat him bad, like what Bill Goldberg did... Well maybe not THAT bad but someone deserves to get some real bragging rights off him and it wouldn't get much bigger than if it we're for the title at WrestleMania as the underdog.

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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 19/October/2017 at 22:07
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

At this point he might as well hold until Mania, unless he drops to Jinder... Wouldn't that be disgusting? Someone needs to beat Brock and beat him bad, like what Bill Goldberg did... Well maybe not THAT bad but someone deserves to get some real bragging rights off him and it wouldn't get much bigger than if it we're for the title at WrestleMania as the underdog.

Can you imagine Jinder holding both titles that would be sublime LOL


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 20/October/2017 at 08:20
Originally posted by Baz Baz wrote:

Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

At this point he might as well hold until Mania, unless he drops to Jinder... Wouldn't that be disgusting? Someone needs to beat Brock and beat him bad, like what Bill Goldberg did... Well maybe not THAT bad but someone deserves to get some real bragging rights off him and it wouldn't get much bigger than if it we're for the title at WrestleMania as the underdog.


Can you imagine Jinder holding both titles that would be sublime LOL


It would not be sublime - it would be trolling of the highest order

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 20/October/2017 at 17:32
From what I've heard the top planned matches for Wrestlemania 34 are:

Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar

John Cena vs Jinder Mahal

Triple H vs Kevin Owens

AJ Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamura

Can't say I have a great deal of interest in Cena vs Mahal, it will just feel like Jinders year long monster push was all so he could be fed to John Cena, a guy likely transitioning to a part-time role.

Triple H vs Owens makes sense and is the next stage in making Owens into a top star, should be a decent match too.

No plans mentioned for Bill Goldberg, seems he may be done.



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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 20/October/2017 at 22:28
Cena vs Mahal for the title or AJ vs Shinsuke for the title hmmm. Cena to get #17 then.

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Posted By: Dukezilla
Date Posted: 21/October/2017 at 00:21
I think Goldberg will be on the WrestleMania card, giving a big rub to Braun Strowman.


Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 21/October/2017 at 07:25
Originally posted by Dukezilla Dukezilla wrote:

I think Goldberg will be on the WrestleMania card, giving a big rub to Braun Strowman.


That's actually a good shout. I think the stumbling block would be Goldberg agreeing to it, he views himself as a big superstar and a hero to kids, not someone who should be doing jobs putting over new talent. But it would make sense and it could be a relatively short power based clash which would suit Goldberg's limitations in the ring.

I would rather they make AJ vs Nakamura for the title. Cena doesn't need another run with the belt at this stage.

Another one I think we might see is Kurt Angle vs Seth Rollins.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 01/November/2017 at 13:43
Quote With Stephanie McMahon back on Raw and already confronting Kurt Angle and threatening his job, there is a very good chance that this will all ultimately lead to an Angle vs. Triple H match at next year's WrestleMania 34.
 
No thanks. At this time in their careers I would prefer both in fresh fueds they have never had before, instead of rehashing stuff from both their primes.
 
Hs really needs to defend the honour of his family and face Kevin Owens on the biggest stage of them all.
 
Kurt has so many talents on Raw he could face. Seth Rollins for a start would be a really good match.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 01/November/2017 at 21:05
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Quote With Stephanie McMahon back on Raw and already confronting Kurt Angle and threatening his job, there is a very good chance that this will all ultimately lead to an Angle vs. Triple H match at next year's WrestleMania 34.
 
No thanks. At this time in their careers I would prefer both in fresh fueds they have never had before, instead of rehashing stuff from both their primes.
 
Hs really needs to defend the honour of his family and face Kevin Owens on the biggest stage of them all.
 
Kurt has so many talents on Raw he could face. Seth Rollins for a start would be a really good match.

I agree with you on this one - as huge of a fan of angle that i am - i want to see him face one of the newer guys, same with HHH.

They are both capable of putting on fantastic matches so some newer superstars could benefit from that


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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 01/November/2017 at 22:15
It's Wrestlemania...i've gotten used to part timers wrestling eachother whilst the more deserving guys get dumped in nothing matches. As long as they don't take up 30 minutes (Including entrances) then I have no issue with Kurt vs Trips as long as it's one and done.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 04/December/2017 at 13:03
So any more thoughts on the expected card?

Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns is more or less set in stone we know that but I also think we might see.....

(Long shot) Shane McMahon and Daniel Bryan vs Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn

The Four Horsewomen vs Ronda Rousey and her entourage

AJ Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamura

Ladder match/TLC - The Usos vs New Day vs The Bludgeon Brothers

Braun Strowman vs Triple H

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 05/December/2017 at 19:25
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

So any more thoughts on the expected card?

Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns is more or less set in stone we know that but I also think we might see.....

(Long shot) Shane McMahon and Daniel Bryan vs Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn

The Four Horsewomen vs Ronda Rousey and her entourage

AJ Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamura

Ladder match/TLC - The Usos vs New Day vs The Bludgeon Brothers

Braun Strowman vs Triple H

It looks a great card

I hope they add Alexa v Paige v Asuka for the title and personally would replace the Bludgeon Brothers with Broken Matt and Brother Nero


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Posted By: ihatethatmonkee
Date Posted: 06/December/2017 at 19:02
Paige and Bliss, and a SDL women's match on the build-up show

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Posted By: Bullet Adams
Date Posted: 18/December/2017 at 08:24
matches that could take place at Wrestlemania 34
Main Event
WWE Universal and WWE Intercontinental Championship Match Expected
Brock Lesnar Vs Roman Reigns - Prediction Winner Roman Reigns with the help of Authors Of Pain

WWE Championship Match - (Expected match AJ Styles vs Nakamura or AJ Styles Vs John Cena)
Jinder Mahal Vs John Cena -Prediction John Cena

WWE United States Championship (Bobby Roode Vs Sami Zayn??)
Bobby Roode vs AJ Styles Vs Shinsuke Nakamura - Prediction Shinsuke Nakamura

WWE RAW Womens Championship (maybe)
Alexa Bliss Vs Asuka Vs Paige - Prediction - Paige

Asuka vs ronda rousey if they dont go with the 4 horsewomen vs UFC

WWE Smackdown Womens Championship
Charlotte Vs Ruby Riott - Prediction - Ruby Riott - Carmella Cashes in - Carmella beats ruby riott

WWE RAW Tag Team Championship
The Revival Vs Authors Of Pain - Prediction AOP

WWE SDLive Tag Team Championship
Bludgeon Brothers vs ????

Seth Rollins Vs Dean Ambrose - Seth Rollins

Samoa Joe Vs Randy Orton ??? RAW Vs SDLive

Shane McMahon Vs Daniel Bryan???

Triple H vs Braun Strowman ???

Jason Jordan VS Kurt Angle ???


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Date Posted: 01/January/2018 at 15:48
 


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 01/January/2018 at 16:03
Cena vs Goldberg would be great. If Goldberg went the route of calling John Cena a fraud who is just in it for the fame and fortune, and that this act of being a hero to the kids was just that, an act, and Cena had to prove it to Bill that he is the real deal, it would make storyline sense, it'd be another passing of the torch from the elderly generation to Cena as "The guy" and it gives Cena one last match as the young guy before he starts putting over younger talent full time (and by full time I mean basically every time much like Triple H does these days *coughforgetaboutsurvivorseriesandJindercough*) and passing the torch himself.

I know Cena himself wants Undertaker. You heard him complain about it to The Miz last year during the road to wrestlemania where he said in a nutshell: "You think I want to be in a match with YOU this year? No, I want The Undertaker, but that's not what management wants for me."

BTW The Miz & Maryse making fun of Cena & Nikki? That was really fun stuff.

The Undertaker needs to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame and that needs to be the end of it. WWE, and wrestlers in general tend to overstay their welcome. They need to follow the example of guys like Steve Austin & Shawn Michaels & Owen Hart and stop before the fans just want them to go away.


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Posted By: LennyComa
Date Posted: 01/January/2018 at 16:40
I would prefer Cena Ziggler over Cena Goldberg or Taker. And if they did a loser retires gimmick as a way for Cena to bow out and let Ziggler take his rightful place as top Heel (although with it being Cena it could backfire unless he does some proper nasty shit in the run up). 

Taker has to take his HoF place and enjoy his well earned retirement. Not risk having a shit match with Cena and possible injury


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 01/January/2018 at 16:51
Quote Dave Meltzer reported in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter that John Cena vs. AJ Styles is not the plan for WrestleMania 34 as WWE has him set for a bigger match.

Cena’s WrestleMania opponent will reportedly be made clear at the Raw 25th-anniversary show next month. That would likely mean that Cena will face someone like Undertaker, Batista or Goldberg.


Several angles for the top WrestleMania matches will be shot at the 25th anniversary of Raw on Monday, January 22. The speculation is that Cena’s opponent will be The Undertaker but that has yet to be confirmed



This is good news as I wasn’t exactly excited about the previously rumoured Cena vs Jinder Mahal match. At this point in his career it makes sense to use Cena in a big attraction role at major shows.

Of the potential opponents listed though I would say Batista is the most likely. A return for him has been rumoured for a while now and there is unfinished business between the two men plus it would be a top draw.

I think Goldberg is done with wrestling, he carried out his brief return to get his feel good moment, his family saw him in the ring live and he rounded off his career legacy in a much more satisfying way than he had previously. I could seem him making the odd appearance as a legend but I think he’s done in the ring.

The Undertaker I think is retired, he’s had surgery which apparently will prevent him wrestling and I find it hard to believe he would have done the retirement angle if it wasn’t legit. Never the less rumours persist about him working Wrestlemania this year and I guess they could run a angle where Cena tries to tempt The Undertaker back for one more match saying it’s the one big thing left for him to do and does Taker really want his legacy to end getting his ass kicked by Roman Reigns.

I think it’s harsh to say every match featuring The Undertaker since CM Punk was poor. The Lesnar match was disappointing but that was largely due to Taker suffering a concussion early in the match and carrying a hurt opponent is not Brock’s fortay. The Bray Wyatt match was not particularly memorable but I personally enjoyed his scrap with Roman last year even if it was clear that Undertaker’s age is catching up with him and he’s not quite the performer he once was.

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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 01/January/2018 at 16:52
Please not Taker especially given how he left after last year. If Cena isn't involved in the title match surely he's going to be Daniel Bryans pick to wrestle Shane for control of SD?

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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 01/January/2018 at 17:44
I don't see Cena vs Undertaker happening. You have to remember that any match featuring John Cena is automatically a big match.

Meltzer also doesn't cite his source. That means it could be absolutely anyone, or in fact nobody at all. 


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 01/January/2018 at 17:59
Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

I don't see Cena vs Undertaker happening. You have to remember that any match featuring John Cena is automatically a big match.

Meltzer also doesn't cite his source. That means it could be absolutely anyone, or in fact nobody at all. 

I know there is a long way to go but at the minute everything seems to be a bit random for John Cena.

This could either be because they are waiting a bit longer before they announce what he is doing at Mania or the fact that they (as you indicated above) have nothing at all for him to do but want to keep him in the fans mind and on TV every now and again.

I'd love to have seen Cena v Taker whilst Taker was still undefeated at Mania because that had the feel of one of the biggest matches of all time.

Theres no doubt in my mind they will give Cena another title run and maybe they are keeping him fresh for that and will start to use him more again after Mania


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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 01/January/2018 at 21:26
The Wrestlemania system involves spreading out their big name draws, particularly part timers, to try and make sure there's a reason for the casual to watch every match. Last Mania is a perfect example. Every match barr the women's SD match (which was initially pre-show for this reason) had a recognisable draw. Styles had Shane, Owens had Jericho, Miz had Cena, tag teams had Hardyz, Rollins had Triple H, Wyatt had Orton, Reigns had Undertaker.

That's one of the reasons I would expect to see Cena/Mahal still. Also, if The Undertaker returns the match will be awful. His surgery has left him severely limited in the mobility department and he was always of the opinion that when he could no longer do his leaping clothesline he was done with wrestling. 


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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 05/January/2018 at 20:51
Taker is retired he left it all in the ring and coming back for another match is just not for him anymore the guy is 52 soon to be 53 years old and hurting I think its time he simply rests in peace. 

I am sad about that because WWE's decision making in the last 2 years I felt were wrong no one wanted Triple H vs Sting at WrestleMania we wanted Undertaker vs Sting, they could easily done Sting vs Triple H at the Royal Rumble with Sting getting the win.

And then Goldberg they squandered another dream match just to have 2 more matches with Brock Lesnar, they should've done the match at Survivor Series and then Taker vs Goldberg at WrestleMania not Roman Reigns. 

We missed out on many dream matches because of poor booking, ego and unfortunately some idiot who decided that Sting should be taking a belt buck powerbomb. 


For this card If I had to predict it I'd go with this 


Braun Strownman vs Triple H 

Charlotte Flair vs Carmella 

Alexa Bliss vs Asuka 

AJ Styles vs Finn Balor 

Bobby Roode vs Shinskue Nakumara 

Daniel Brian and Shane McMahon vs Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn 

Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns 

Seth Rollins vs Jason Jordan (Kurt Angle Special guest referee) 

John Cena vs Samoa Joe 

The Bar vs Woken Matt and Brother Nero 

Uso's vs Rusev and Aiden English.  

Andre the Giant Battle Royale.



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Posted By: Dukezilla
Date Posted: 05/January/2018 at 22:17
A couple months ago, I would have predicted Strowman's WrestleMania opponent would be Goldberg. Now that's looking less and less likely. Not only that, it's probably going to end up being Triple H.

However, I still think John Cena is going to get number 17 at WrestleMania, and other than that, I can't really predict much else for the card other than the Andre The Giant Battle Royal being on the main show, which they need at least some degree of star power in.


Posted By: Dipton Daredevil
Date Posted: 09/January/2018 at 12:55
The Undertaker vs John Cena match will indeed happen at Wrestlemania 34 I believe. I aslo go out on a creative limb and say that a dream match of sorts may become even more special as the two part timers put theur careers on the line inside Hell in a Cell on the grandest stage of them all.

This storyline will begin at Royal Rumble. As many of you may already know Cena has entered in the Royal Rumble match so he will be there and I think Undertaker will rise from the dead and return in an infatict way to then be violently eliminated by John Cena.

We have not seem a very aggressive Cena for a while so the change will be hood for him. He will be set in his ways and determined to put the deadman down for good. Risking it all to end Takers career he puts his own career up on the line as well. Cena should eliminate Undertaker with an AA over the top onto the outside then do his famous You can't see me taunt with his cocky grin of achievement to the deadman laid waste on the outaide but Undertaker pops up and glares at Cena them taunts gis famous R.I.P Taker pulls Cena out eliminating him then chokeslams him through the announce table.

The rest will be history. Cena takes the victory and we say goodbye to Taker the right way.


Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 09/January/2018 at 13:36
At first I was sceptical but now I do believe Cena vs The Undertaker will happen at Wrestlemania this year.

I’m calling it now, on the 25th anniversary Raw we will see Taker come out and officially announce his retirement from the ring before Cena comes out and issues his challenge which will see Undertaker work one more match. I think this was always the plan and was why they have saved Cena vs Taker until now when they’ve had several opportunities to do the match previously.

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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 09/January/2018 at 18:03
If Taker does this last match then I feel his loss to Roman was a waste of time then he has done everything he needs to do in the ring and given the WWE everything he's got (cue Dark Knight rises scene). 


The match with Cena just wouldn't be worth anymore injuries Taker would pick up.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 09/January/2018 at 18:10
Cena is pretty safe though and experienced and professional enough to know both that he needs to carry the match make Undertaker look good and hopefully lobby strongly to Vince for taking the loss.

Usually a vet loses their last match, but Taker has already done that and given all he has to that end. In this case it would be more of a matter of giving him a good send-off otherwise why pair him with Cena? Cena needs to lose if they go through with this, and if anyone can pull out one last top quality match from Taker and keep him safe, then Cena is the man. Literally no one except for Orton could pull off this kind of thing.

Now as far as stories are concerned... I have no idea how they could pull this off well. Cena really would have to play heel, even if he doesn't make a legit full turn.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 09/January/2018 at 18:35
In big match feuds like this Cena normally excels so if this match happens I look forward to it. I've really enjoyed Cena when he's been put in major feuds with guys like The Rock, Batista, Roman Reigns and Shawn Michaels.

The only thing is though Samoa Joe seemed to put a target on Cena on Raw teasing a possible feud, Joe vs Cena is a feud that has been rumoured for a while now but has still yet to happen.

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Posted By: Dipton Daredevil
Date Posted: 10/January/2018 at 00:02
Match Card & Storyline

I think the match card has been set up pritty clearly for Wrestlemania 34 already but with a few creative hick ups because they don't want to bite the bullet and take a risk. Like we have seen in past manias when we didn't get to see some dream matches happen like Sting vs Taker or Goldberg vs Taker. But I think that they can make up for it.


The main event will be Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns for the WWE Universal Championship

Raw have the Elimination Chamber pay per view the year so I think that the Royal Rumble match winner for men will be Shinsuke Nakamura. So with Lesnar most likely not going to fight on a ppv like Elimination Chamber b4 WM34 then the main chamber match will be the number one contendership for the Universal title at Wrestlemania. So the big dog wins his first Chamber match after dropping the Intercontinental Championship to Miz at Royal Rumble. Reigns will regain momentum from the chamber win and beat Lesnar at mania to win his first universal championship and be the first guy to kick out of the F5 this year.


Main event match 2 will be The Undertaker vs John Cena in s Career vs Career Hell in a Cell Match

**See my earlier post for more information on this**


Main event match 3 will be Aj Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamura for the WWE Championship

Shinsuke Nakamura wins the Royal Rumble match and goes on to beat Styles in the main event winning his first WWE World Championship.
Styles retains his title until mania


Match 4 will be Charlotte Flair vs Sasha Banks vs Becky Lynch vs Bayley for the Smackdown Live Womens Championship

I think they should swap some superstars around after the Rumble to freshen things up before and the four horsewomen fatal four way for the womens title is mania caliber


Auska vs Paige-Raw Womens Championship Match

Auska will win the Raw Women's Championship off Alexia Bliss at Royal Rumble and Paige will beat her at Mania to end the streak. Yes I'm sorry but it's Paige and a full time wrestler has to lose some time.


**OPTIONS**
Triple H or Goldberg vs Braun Strowman
Dolph Ziggler vs Seth Rollins vs Bray Wyatt vs Bobby Roode vs Ricochet vs Neville-United States Championship Ladder Match
The Miz vs Samoa Joe-Intercontinental Championship Match
Balor Club vs New Day
Kevin Owens vs Sami Zayn
Daniel Bryan vs Shane mcmahon
Kurt Angle vs Triple H or Jason Jordan
Usos vs Bludgeon Brothers-Smackdown Live Tag Team Championship
The Bar vs War Machine-Raw Tag Team Championship

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 11/January/2018 at 10:50
Wrestlemania is taking shape now and here is what I think will be the card or at least something similar.

Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns - WWE Universal Title

AJ Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamura - WWE Title

Jinder Mahal vs Dolph Ziggler vs Baron Corbin vs Bobby Roode vs Mojo Rawley vs Rusev - US Title six pack challenge

The Miz vs Elias vs Samoa Joe - Intercontinental Title

The Usos vs The New Day vs The Bludgeon Brothers vs Benjamin/ Gable - Ladder match for Tag-Titles

The Undertaker vs John Cena

Triple H vs Braun Strowman

Seth Rollins, Jason Jordan and Kurt Angle vs The Balor Club

Shane McMahon and Daniel Bryan vs Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn

Charlotte vs Ronda Rousey - WWE Women's Title

Asuka vs Paige - WWE Women's Title

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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 11/January/2018 at 17:47
Originally posted by Dipton Daredevil Dipton Daredevil wrote:

The Undertaker vs John Cena match will indeed happen at Wrestlemania 34 I believe. I aslo go out on a creative limb and say that a dream match of sorts may become even more special as the two part timers put theur careers on the line inside Hell in a Cell on the grandest stage of them all.

Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

At first I was sceptical but now I do believe Cena vs The Undertaker will happen at Wrestlemania this year. 

I’m calling it now, on the 25th anniversary Raw we will see Taker come out and officially announce his retirement from the ring before Cena comes out and issues his challenge which will see Undertaker work one more match. I think this was always the plan and was why they have saved Cena vs Taker until now when they’ve had several opportunities to do the match previously.

The funny thing is I actually have long seen a rematch between Undertaker and Roman Reigns at this year's WresteMania, and I've thought this since last year's main event. I forsesaw Undertaker coming back saying he has unfinished business, just as he did when he challenged Triple H to a rematch at WrestleMania XXVIII. 

But yes Fletch your reasoning makes sense. I heard a year ago that Undertaker was originally supposed to be in the WWE Championship match at last year's WrestleMania, possibly against Cena in the original plans. But to have Undertaker put over Reigns and then move the big Cena match to the year after is something they may have long had planned. 

I think Undertaker vs Cena, if it does happen, will be a waste of what really looks like Taker's last match, as I don't care for Cena. But, at the end of the day I suppose I can live with it. It is a big name match up that I have wanted to see since at last 2007. I just place so much importance on every Undertaker match now as every one might really be "it" for him. 
 
That all being said, it would be a tragedy if Taker looses. With the meaning of the former streak being so talked about and hyped, every Undertaker WrestleMania loss seems amplified. I myself never wanted the streak to end in the first place. But I agree with Rico that he's given all he can. 

But as to me the Undertaker match is the highlight of most WrestleManias in the past 15 years, and he is one of the all time greats, I would rather see him lose than not compete at all. 


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 11/January/2018 at 22:42
The Undertaker's streak ending at the hands of Brock Lesnar still ranks as a bizarre decision because think what a monumental win it would have been for Roman Reigns last year if he'd ended the streak, it would have made that moment on Raw the next night all the more sweet for him as he gloats this is my yard now knowing he put the first loss in the column for The Undertaker at Wrestlemania.

Lesnar has gained little from it, an argument can be made that Brock began his run of dominance following that victory but they could have achieved that by having him steamroll through some other top talents and defeat Taker soundly at a non-Wrestlemania event. In any rate Lesnar already had big star status before he upset Taker at Mania. It would have been a career making win for Reigns but instead they handed it to the part-timer who's made it perfectly clear he's only in it for the money and wrestles less than ten televised matches a year.

Anyway point is yes I feel Undertaker needs to beat Cena, let him end his career on a high note, especially after they screwed up with the streak.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 12/January/2018 at 02:20
Truth is his WrestleMania streak is pretty realistic. Perfect, then a loss, a win or so, another loss, probably another loss, and then retirement. Makes sense if you look at it in the light of comparing it to an MMA record.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 12/January/2018 at 10:11
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Truth is his WrestleMania streak is pretty realistic. Perfect, then a loss, a win or so, another loss, probably another loss, and then retirement. Makes sense if you look at it in the light of comparing it to an MMA record.


There is that to it yeah but I just don’t get why Lesnar was chosen, its almost a slap in the face to the full time roster as so many of them could have built their career on that win. Lesnar doesn’t care what happens as long as he’s paid.

The only logic I can see is if they wanted Reigns to beat him two years later then perhaps they were worried that ending the streak would make fans reject him for ever so they took that burden out of the scenario with Lesnar, but I’m not sure that WWE would have had Roman’s win over The Undertaker planned that far in advance.

Maybe it was a case of they wanted the streak finished and at the time Lesnar was the only one considered a dominant enough talent to be able to realistically beat The Undertaker at Wrestlemania after so many top guys had failed previously.

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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 12/January/2018 at 10:31
The decision to have Lesnar be the one to end the streak was one of the worst decisions they could ever have done even if it was only for the shock factor, I remember seeing the match and seeing the ref count the three I was just stunned and then it was quickly replaced with anger I didn't even finish watching the PPV so didn't see Daniel Brian win the WWE title I still haven't to this day. 


My personal opinion is that Taker's streak was too iconic to break it was apart of him, yes he is a legend in his own right bringing some of the best matches I have ever seen but the streak it was something special, no one thought much of it until he was 10-0 that was when the streak really came into fruitation after finishing off a great match with Ric Flair. yes he's had some duds like the casket match with Mark Henry or his match with Giant Gonzalez that was a big bore but he's also had some of the best matches a wrestler could possibly have like his 2 matches with Shawn Micheals. 


last year Taker should've been 25-0 and that's how he should have ended things not 23-2 I hate that the loss coloumn isn't zero and I will hate that for as long as it is shown I even found myself hoping that there was some over the top storyline to erase the 1 loss but then I thought it wouldn't change things at all.

Should he come back and face Cena for one truly last match then so be it but I really hope he wins the match if he loses then the hate Cena would get would be huge. 

My issue with Taker returning is his hip it was affecting his performance big time last year and it was clear as day especially when he chokeslammed Brawn Strownman he was in so much pain just doing that, that and the match itself was trash definitely one of his and Romans worse and I honestly think Roman was so hesistant during the match do a lot of physical moves purely so he didn't hurt him more then he was.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 12/January/2018 at 10:43
The Roman Reigns vs The Undertaker match gets a lot of hate but I thought it was a very reasonable effort where they told a good story.

It’s true Taker was showing his age a bit throughout but the only real botch I remember was when Reigns tried to get Taker up for a tombstone possibly for a reversal spot and Taker was unable to flip his body up into position and effectively became dead weight and they had to abandon the spot.

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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 12/January/2018 at 13:11
There were also a couple of moments where Reigns came off the ropes and Undertaker simply wasn't ready to receive the attack. I'm also absolutely certain that the final spear came off both sets of ropes because Undertaker wasn't ready the first time and so Reigns improvised.

I believe some of these small moments might actually have been part of the story and if that's true then it was a perfect finale. I cried after that match. I full on cried. The Undertaker was the last bastion of my childhood. The last true immortal.

For him to now walk back into Wrestlemania like nothing happened? I wouldn't be happy with it, personally.


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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 12/January/2018 at 13:49
Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

I believe some of these small moments might actually have been part of the story and if that's true then it was a perfect finale. I cried after that match. I full on cried. The Undertaker was the last bastion of my childhood. The last true immortal.

For him to now walk back into Wrestlemania like nothing happened? I wouldn't be happy with it, personally.

I know exactly how you feel. The Undertaker made his debut when I was 15 years old, and I can feel as if I "grew up watching him." Outside of the newest possible Terry Funk comeback Tongue , Taker is the last guy from my real younger days still actively wrestling. Others make appearances, but Undertaker, at least as of last year, still gets in the ring.  

I get wanting his act of placing his cloak and hat in the center of the ring to mean something. But I also like how he left it open by not announcing anything verbally. Michael Cole ran with that, as he always says that that might have been the last we see of the Undertaker in the ring, but not definite. Because of that open spot per se, I would not have much of a problem with him stepping in the ring again. 

Generally I do want "retirement" matches to mean something, especially if it is a match stipulation. As much as I loved Macho Man Randy Savage, I had an issue with him coming back in the ring after loosing that "Career Match" to Ultimate Warrior in WrestleMania VII, as that made the stipulation meaningless. The looser actually went on to have a longer career than the winner. 

On that note I am also slightly bothered that they (the New Day as WrestleMania hosts LOL) never offered an explanation of how Matt Hardy was reinstated into the WWE after he lost a "looser leaves the WWE match" to Drew McIntyre in 2010. Then again in the territory days there were billions of guys returning after loosing "looser leaves town" matches. 

But yes, of course I do get that you're placing more importance on the impact of the moment and who the wrestler (The Undertaker) is far more than any match stipulation. But like I said, Roman Reigns might have said he was going to retire the Undertaker; but there was no official match stipulation and a return was left open. 

In other words, like Fletch more or less said, it was a way to put Reigns over as much as possible without fully closing the door. 

 


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 12/January/2018 at 14:38
Quote Maybe it was a case of they wanted the streak finished and at the time Lesnar was the only one considered a dominant enough talent to be able to realistically beat The Undertaker at Wrestlemania after so many top guys had failed previously.

Except that Lesnar was no where near dominant enough to take it from Taker. He looked like shit going into WrestleMania. People gave Shawn Michaels a chance, when he put his career on the line most fans though that was the end of the Undertakers streak. And then HHH? Surely he's going to win? CM Punk even had us talking about him beating the streak. But when Lesnar showed up? It was viewed as Lesnar is going to look even weaker than ever after losing so much. There was never even a question of if Lesnar loses, it's when he loses, and then he didn't.

Quote Generally I do want "retirement" matches to mean something, especially if it is a match stipulation. As much as I loved Macho Man Randy Savage, I had an issue with him coming back in the ring after loosing that "Career Match" to Ultimate Warrior in WrestleMania VII, as that made the stipulation meaningless. The looser actually went on to have a longer career than the winner.

Within the context of the storyline Savage stayed retired, and was fine with it until Jake Roberts started cutting promos on him, and then attacked him at Summerslam after his wedding. Savage had transitioned into being a commentator, and never showed any bit of bitterness or anything of the sort. But once Roberts attacked Elizabeth, WWF made a show of having him go through paperwork, and red tape, and petitioning President Jack Tunney to get re-instated. His retirement felt real, and his comeback felt real, too. 

IMO Savage's retirement seemed just as real as that of Shawn Michaels in 1998, and Daniel Bryan's a couple years ago, even though theirs were far more legit than Savage's. 

As far as Undertaker goes. Nothing was ever said first hand, so it's all speculation. He needs to retire sooner or later because this is getting ridiculous, but people are just making an assumption on something never remotely confirmed, so getting upset at this isn't much different than getting upset at Bryan not entering the Royal Rumble or Kenny Omega not debuting last year, etc.


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Date Posted: 12/January/2018 at 16:10
 

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 12/January/2018 at 17:54
Quote That was a damn retirement ceremony and no one can deny that. 

Hold my beer...

Originally posted by MUSA MUSA wrote:

I'm a bit tired of hearing people say "Well, WWE never SAID he retired" - that's, quite honestly, an excuse.  What could the theatrics from the Undertaker following Roman Reigns POSSIBLY have meant other than a bow followed by a curtain finally closing for the last time?  The man ceremonially took off his gear, shedding himself of his character, and walked out of that ring to kiss his wife (something the character Undertaker would not do, given Michelle and Undertaker never had a storyline relationship), and THEN walked to the ramp and sunk into the "depths of hell", arm raised, and closed the show.

Except that it's been done before. Everyone KNEW Undertaker was done when Brock Lesnar beat him.

Everyone KNEW Undertaker was done after his match with Triple H when the match was labeled "End of an era" and all the hype was about the legacy of the Undertaker and what a great career he had.

Then everyone KNEW Undertaker was done after his loss to Reigns.

So no. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Shame on me.

WWE wants you to guess, they want you to jump to conclusions, they want you to speculate. Their business model literally depends on you doing just that. They plant a few seeds and the hardcore fans in particular take every possibility out to the Nth degree, and either reach consensus or they develop highly debated differing opinions like with that of Bret & Shawn, and Punk & HHH. 

In this case it was all about is Undertaker retiring NOW??? Surely nothing more can come from his story can there? Oops, except yes it can. WWE is like a comic book series, no one ever dies, no villain is ever bad for ever and every hero has a dark side. Undertaker most certainly COULD come back.

Do I think it's a good idea? No. Do I think he should have retired a long time ago? Yes. Do I think his streak should have come to an end? Yes, by both Mick Foley & Kane with Paul Bearer about 7 years ago and that should have been the end of all of them on TV and/or active competition.

But that's not what happened, and just because I wished it would have gone down that way for a poetic finish to an epic storyline and feud doesn't mean that what came afterwards was what Vince ever had in mind to begin with, or that he even had a grand plot for the Undertaker storyline in his head to come to an end. At the end of the day WWE is his baby and it will do whatever he wants it to, regardless of what we think or even of what he himself was thinking a few hours earlier.

Quote All of those theatrics were NOT to "put Roman over", c'mon now...if you're saying that, that's an excuse you're giving to WWE for poor booking and poor planning of the Undertaker.
 

Exactly right. It IS poor booking and poor planning of the Undertaker, that is EXACTLY what I think it is. There is very little long term planning being done, and Vince is just in the moment booking for 'right now' and nothing more and it's coming at the expense of Undertaker's legacy.


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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 19/January/2018 at 01:14
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Quote Generally I do want "retirement" matches to mean something, especially if it is a match 
stipulation. As much as I loved Macho Man Randy Savage, I had an issue with him coming back in 
the ring after loosing that "Career Match" to Ultimate Warrior in WrestleMania VII, as that made 
the stipulation meaningless. The looser actually went on to have a longer career than the winner.
 

Within the context of the storyline Savage stayed retired, and was fine with it until Jake Roberts 
started cutting promos on him, and then attacked him at Summerslam after his wedding. Savage
had transitioned into being a commentator, and never showed any bit of bitterness or anything of 
the sort. But once Roberts attacked Elizabeth, WWF made a show of having him go through 
paperwork, and red tape, and petitioning President Jack Tunney to get re-instated. His retirement 
felt real, and his comeback felt real, too. 

IMO Savage's retirement seemed just as real as that of Shawn Michaels in 1998, and Daniel
 Bryan's a couple years ago, even though theirs were far more legit than Savage's. 

Oh, I know this Randy Savage vs Jake Roberts storyline extremely well; and you know what, this is Jake's best run, ever (and that's saying something.) That promo at the Tuesday in Texas match was pushing things. This was especially so after Mean Gene asked Jake why he slapped Elizabeth and his response was saying that he could cultivate her into something that even he could love. Now you make me want to watch it again, which I was thinking about doing soon anyway. Wink

HERE'S TO OLD SCHOOL WRESTLING TALK THE CURRENT YEAR'S WRESTLEMANIA THREAD, WHOO!!

That being said, I would agree with all your points that Savage never immediately rushed to get revenge on Warrior for loosing the career match and was content to accept his retirement (and married life,) that he didn't look to do anything to anyone until his wedding was interrupted, and then his return felt real with all the petitioning. I certainly agree it was a good storyline. 

The only question is whether the return was worth ruining the meaning of the WrestleMania VII career match between him an Warrior, which I consider to be the highlight of that WrestleMania and was another good storyline with a great build up. We all know there's a billion cases of people coming out of retirement even after "retirement matches', even retirement matches at WrestleMania (see also, Rowdy Roddy Piper.) But I think the stipulation has to mean something. Macho Man could have still "feuded" with Jake actually coming out of retirement. In fact an angle where he interferes from the broadcast booth could have been even better. 

Originally posted by MUSA MUSA wrote:

I'm a bit tired of hearing people say "Well, WWE never SAID he retired" - that's, quite honestly, an excuse.  What could the theatrics from the Undertaker following Roman Reigns POSSIBLY have meant other than a bow followed by a curtain finally closing for the last time?  The man ceremonially took off his gear, shedding himself of his character, and walked out of that ring to kiss his wife (something the character Undertaker would not do, given Michelle and Undertaker never had a storyline relationship), and THEN walked to the ramp and sunk into the "depths of hell", arm raised, and closed the show.

All of those theatrics were NOT to "put Roman over", c'mon now...if you're saying that, that's an excuse you're giving to WWE for poor booking and poor planning of the Undertaker.

That was a damn retirement ceremony and no one can deny that.  It's just that either the Undertaker just can't call it quits (ala Terry Funk) or Vince McMahon wants that big money Taker match every year and convinces the man to do it because of their professional and respected relationship.  

If the Undertaker honestly returns to wrestle, that's damn insulting to the fans who were emotionally invested in his retirement that night.  All of those theatrics told a story of retirement, not one of "see you next year, folks!   Until then...BONG!  LIGHTS OUT!".

I honestly think if Taker was gone for a few years and came back for a one-off match years later (let's say 5), people would be more forgiving and thinkin he just wants one last time to go out with a win.  But a year later?  That insults audience intelligence, and nothing can convince me otherwise.

Not only that...but JOHN FUCKING CENA?  Really?!  Can't put over an up and comer, like you always said you would, but put over another part-timer?  And they wonder why people cannot take their current roster seriously...

No, I am not giving the WWE an "excuse" for bad booking. I agree that, if Undertaker were to come back, that it would be questionable booking. 

The prospect of Taker having a WrestleMania match with John Cena was raised by multiple posters in this thread. I stated my preference that I would like to see Undertaker still compete in the ring because he is one of the best ever and has never put on a bad match; but that I would prefer a different opponent for him (one other than Cena.) I said that the fact the Undertaker is not definitively retired could be a storyline loophole for his return. But I never said it was good a good storyline. 

I agree that the fans were emotionally invested in what appeared to be the Undertaker (literally) hanging up the boots. What you bring up is a lot like Mick Foley in 2000. He looses a career match to Hunter Hearst Helmsley in a Hell in the Cell match at No Way Out, says goodbye, and then returns a month later to main event WrestleMania. There is also the Macho Man example that Rico and I talked about. I state these things as history. I do not state them as good booking. 

What would have been better is one of two things, either have a retirement angle and stick to it where Undertaker is done for absolute good, or have no appearance of a retirement at all and just have him vanish after WrestleMania like he always does.   

Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

WWE wants you to guess, they want you to jump to conclusions, they want you to speculate. Their business model literally depends on you doing just that. They plant a few seeds and the hardcore fans in particular take every possibility out to the Nth degree, and either reach consensus or they develop highly debated differing opinions like with that of Bret & Shawn, and Punk & HHH. 

In this case it was all about is Undertaker retiring NOW??? Surely nothing more can come from his story can there? Oops, except yes it can. WWE is like a comic book series, no one ever dies, no villain is ever bad for ever and every hero has a dark side. Undertaker most certainly COULD come back.

I agree 100% that the WWE wants to keep people guessing. In fact the fact that the last couple of pages of this WrestleMania thread has been dominated by a speculative Undertaker match is exactly what WWE wants.   

Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Quote All of those theatrics were NOT to "put Roman over", c'mon now...if you're saying that, that's an excuse you're giving to WWE for poor booking and poor planning of the Undertaker.
 

Exactly right. It IS poor booking and poor planning of the Undertaker, that is EXACTLY what I think it is. There is very little long term planning being done,

The "long term planning" from last year's WrestleMania is everything Roman Reigns does for the next 20 years. 

Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

it's coming at the expense of Undertaker's legacy.

The only things that were an expense to the Undertaker's legacy were the actual losses to Lesnar and Reigns, not his participation in the matches. 

Insert the same for any possible match this year.    


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 21/January/2018 at 18:26
So some more rumoured matches for this years extravaganza:

Triple H and Stephanie McMahon vs Braun Strowman and Ronda Rousey

Kurt Angle vs Jason Jordan

AJ Styles vs Finn Balor - WWE Title

The first match - well I’m not a fan of mixed tags, never have been. But I can see why WWE would book this, it protects Rousey limiting her to maybe one or two spots while Trips and Strowman carry the match. For Ronda’s first major wrestling match this is probably smart but I would much rather see HHH vs Braun one on one.

Angle vs Jordan will be decent and it would be easy to book but I would rather see Angle vs Rollins and maybe save the Angle/Jordan match for a lesser PPV.

Apparently there is talk of having Balor win the Royal Rumble and have him cross over to Smackdown by way of a storyline where AJ either challenges him for a rematch from their match last year or Finn just decides he wants the WWE Title, they did this years ago with Chris Benoit crossing to Raw. I actually like this idea as I think Balor is a much better choice as a opponent for AJ than Shinsuke Nakamura.

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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 21/January/2018 at 18:42
I'm rooting for Balor to win and head over to smackdown nothing against Nakumara but smackdown are in need of more main eventers and fans loved Balor vs styles the first time around seeing it again would be too sweet

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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 23/January/2018 at 04:47
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

So some more rumoured matches for this years extravaganza:

Triple H and Stephanie McMahon vs Braun Strowman and Ronda Rousey

Kurt Angle vs Jason Jordan

AJ Styles vs Finn Balor - WWE Title

The first match - well I’m not a fan of mixed tags, never have been. But I can see why WWE would book this, it protects Rousey limiting her to maybe one or two spots while Trips and Strowman carry the match. For Ronda’s first major wrestling match this is probably smart but I would much rather see HHH vs Braun one on one.

Angle vs Jordan will be decent and it would be easy to book but I would rather see Angle vs Rollins and maybe save the Angle/Jordan match for a lesser PPV.

Apparently there is talk of having Balor win the Royal Rumble and have him cross over to Smackdown by way of a storyline where AJ either challenges him for a rematch from their match last year or Finn just decides he wants the WWE Title, they did this years ago with Chris Benoit crossing to Raw. I actually like this idea as I think Balor is a much better choice as a opponent for AJ than Shinsuke Nakamura.

I think that AJ is an elite enough wrestler that any match he is in would be a near classic. I hope he does walk into WrestleMania as the Champ as he deserves that and was derailed last year at the Rumble by John Cena (and nothing against his Rumble opponent this year Kevin Owens when I say that.) That being said I do agree Balor would be a slightly better match up for AJ than Nakamura. But either of those matches would be good. 

As for the rest of those rumors, I am not thrilled about Angle vs Jordan; because out of all the great matches Angle could have at his return to WrestleMania, and possibly his last match anywhere at that (as he's already in the Hall of Fame,) there are far better opponents that Jordan for him. I would literally rather see Angle against Helmsley again, as some of us thought they were heading to a few months ago. But then again, they had to have some kind of payoff in mind when they chose Jordan to be Angle son. At the time I simply thought it was a push for Jordan, which he already has gotten in his association with the Shield and a Tag title reign.   




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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 23/January/2018 at 09:18
I don't want to see a mixed tag match I just want to a straight up one on one single match between Braun and Hunter. 



I think I'm the only one who isn't interested in Ronda Rousey doing anything but a singles match either, I don't believe in doing mixed tag matches at Wrestlemania. 




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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 23/January/2018 at 09:21
Ronda should lead a stable with Shayna from NXT and other MMA type women and dominate in the way they had hoped the Riott squad would

I don’t think she should be in a tag match as such - she should be the Paige to the group and promote the team but compete herself in singles action

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Posted By: L-shizzel
Date Posted: 23/January/2018 at 09:25
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

Ronda should lead a stable with Shayna from NXT and other MMA type women and dominate in the way they had hoped the Riott squad would

I don’t think she should be in a tag match as such - she should be the Paige to the group and promote the team but compete herself in singles action


Not really she's someone that should be on her own, she still has that badass persona of hers and can own the ring, in a way she could be the Brock Lesnar of the women's division, except that that she won't sound like she didn't hit puberty and will be on more often then Brock is.


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Posted By: Dipton Daredevil
Date Posted: 24/January/2018 at 11:22
Wrestlemania 34 Match Card

  • Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns (Universal Championship)
  • The Undertaker vs John Cena (Hell in a Cell Career vs Career Match)
  • Aj Styles vs Dolph Ziggler (WWE Championship)
  • Sasha Banks vs Bayley vs Becky Lynch vs Charlotte (Smackdown Women's Championship)
  • Triple H vs Batista
  • Kurt Angle vs Finn Balor (Demon)
  • The Miz vs MVP vs Bobby Lashley vs Carlito vs Samoa Joe vs Seth Rollins (6 Man Ladder Match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship)
  • Kevin Owens vs Sami Zayn
  • Bobby Roode vs EC3 vs Drew McIntyre vs Shinsuke Nakamura (United States Championship)
  • Goldberg vs Braun Strowman
Kick Off Show:

  • Asuka vs Paige (Raw Women's Championship)
  • Rey Mysterio vs Johnny Gargano vs Tommaso Ciampa vs Lio Rush vs Kalisto vs Evan Bourne (Crusierweight Championship 6 Pack Elimination Match
  • The Bar vs Hardy Boyz vs The Revival vs Gallows & Anderson (Raw Tag Team Championship Match)
  • The Usos vs New Day vs Bludgeon Brothers (Tornado Tag Match for Smackdown Tag Team Championship)
  • Andrei the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Winners:
 
  • Roman Reigns via Pinfall
  • John Cena via Pinfall
  • Dolph Ziggler via Pinfall
  • Charlotte via Submission
  • Batista via Pinfall
  • Finn Balor (Demon) via Pinfall
  • Seth Rollins wins via Pinfall
  • Kevin Owens wins via Pinfall
  • Ethan Carter III wins via pinfall
  • Braun Strowman wins via Pinfall

  • Paige wins via Pinfall
  • Kalisto wins via Pinfall
  • Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows win via Pinfall
  • Bludgeon Brothers win via Pinfall
  • Big Cass



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Posted By: The Villain
Date Posted: 25/January/2018 at 00:21
Y'all ready for Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar II? lol so dumb.

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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 25/January/2018 at 01:35
Originally posted by L-shizzel L-shizzel wrote:

I don't want to see a mixed tag match I just want to a straight up one on one single match between Braun and Hunter. 



I think I'm the only one who isn't interested in Ronda Rousey doing anything but a singles match either, I don't believe in doing mixed tag matches at Wrestlemania. 



Yeah I have no idea if that rumor Fletch posted will come to fruition but that seemed like an odd match to me. It's almost as if they were thinking, "what's the oddest match we can think of to put out there to throw people off and make people think Braun won't with the Title at the Rumble? Ah! Have him team with Rhonda against Hunter and Stephanie!!" 

Hey it might happen. If it happens, it happens. But I agree with you that with all that Bruan has done lately he at least deserves a singles match at WrestleMania. And as far as a feud with Hunter, the seeds of it were planted at the Survivor Series. But if the mixed tag does take place, I can see why they would do that with the popularity of Rhonda Rousey that they want to rub off on Strowman.  

That being said, as I've stated numerous times I don't give a damn about MMA so I only really know Rousey from her appearance at WrestleMania 31 with The Rock and some things flashed across the news. She means nothing to me as a personality let alone as a performer and I would have absolutely 0 interest with her in a match. But I know a lot of others will have an interest.  


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Posted By: xXDemon_DuckXx
Date Posted: 25/January/2018 at 01:59
Originally posted by Kondor Kondor wrote:


But if the mixed tag does take place, I can see why they would do that with the popularity of Rhonda Rousey that they want to rub off on Strowman.  


Quite the contrary. The rub would be on Rousey getting to team with Strowman. Braun is already popular in his own right and I doubt teaming with her is going to help in any form. On the otherhand, non-MMA fans seeing this newcomer team up with Braun may raise her stock in the company from that point.
That said, I have zero desire to see Rhonda in the WWE, much less in a mixed tag match at Wrestlemania.

As much as I would like to see Styles/Finn, I have a bad feeling that it's probably going to be your curtain-jerker and they aren't going to get the time to make it the classic it has the potential to be. Not a chance that that match makes it to the main event. It would be 4th from the top, at best.


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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 25/January/2018 at 02:12
Originally posted by xXDemon_DuckXx xXDemon_DuckXx wrote:

Originally posted by Kondor Kondor wrote:


But if the mixed tag does take place, I can see why they would do that with the popularity of Rhonda Rousey that they want to rub off on Strowman.  


Quite the contrary. The rub would be on Rousey getting to team with Strowman. Braun is already popular in his own right and I doubt teaming with her is going to help in any form. On the otherhand, non-MMA fans seeing this newcomer team up with Braun may raise her stock in the company from that point.

I am not sure about that. All the Rock had to do was walk by Rousey in the audience at WrestleMania and the fans were already chanting her name (no pun intended.) I would grant to your point that the rub at least may be mutually beneficial. The fans that don't give a fuck about her would see her team with Stowman, and she would get some exposure to those non MMA fans. 

But as far as WWE's intent would go, they have always, always going back to the first WrestleMania when Mr. T teamed with Hulk Hogan (which I would also call mutually beneficial,) placed a lot of emphasis on celebrities who step in the ring; and they work under the assumption that people know who they are. In fact, that assumption is what they are counting on to drive buy rates, be it Lawrence Taylor, Floyd Mayweather, or Snooki (who teamed with John Morrison and Trish Stratus at a WrestleMania.) 

You have to remember the premise of WrestleMania is that they are seeking to attract buy rates from outside the population of normal wrestling fans.    

That being said, I with with you in hoping the match doesn't take place. 


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Posted By: The Villain
Date Posted: 25/January/2018 at 02:14
At least Ronda has been training and it wouldn't be random... well... completely random.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 29/January/2018 at 18:17
Quote With WrestleMania 34 just months away, the card is taking shape. There are two rumored matches for the upcoming event. They are Alexa Bliss vs. Nia Jax for the Raw Women’s Title and Asuka vs. Charlotte Flair for the Smackdown Women’s Title.

This is the reason why WWE decided to add the stipulation where the Royal Rumble winners could face either brand’s champion.


Reports are also saying plans have Ronda Rousey working a mixed tag against Triple H and Stephanie and they are hoping to get The Rock to be Ronda’s partner. If this is the case I don’t get why they made such a big deal of Ronda coming out and stealing Asuka’s thunder if she wasn’t going to be involved in a title match.

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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 29/January/2018 at 18:19
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Quote With WrestleMania 34 just months away, the card is taking shape. There are two rumored matches for the upcoming event. They are Alexa Bliss vs. Nia Jax for the Raw Women’s Title and Asuka vs. Charlotte Flair for the Smackdown Women’s Title.

This is the reason why WWE decided to add the stipulation where the Royal Rumble winners could face either brand’s champion.


Reports are also saying plans have Ronda Rousey working a mixed tag against Triple H and Stephanie and they are hoping to get The Rock to be Ronda’s partner. If this is the case I don’t get why they made such a big deal of Ronda coming out and stealing Asuka’s thunder if she wasn’t going to be involved in a title match.

Cos Trips and Steph all all over Ronda. It's good that they want to keep her away from the title match...however with Dwayne unlikely to be available to wrestle who'll really take that position? Is this the "Bigger than a title match" thing they're planning with Cena? Or will the let Balor be the one to get the rub from Trips?


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 29/January/2018 at 18:24
I think that's the right call to begin with. Cena would be a good stand-in for The Rock if he's not going to be allowed to wrestle due to insurance issues. Outside of that I don't see anybody being able to reasonably slot into that matchup for a mixed match challenge between Stephanie & Triple H vs Rousey... if Piper were still around and a bit younger, that'd be great.

lol that'd be two mixed tag matches in a row for Cena at Mania. I guess that would test Cena's commitment to being a company guy if he was doing that. Probably get rewarded with a WM35 title win to break Flair's record.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 31/January/2018 at 12:51
Quote As noted before, it appears WWE is hoping to have Ronda Rousey team up with The Rock to take on the Stephanie McMahon & Triple H duo at WrestleMania. With the Rock's participation in the event truly up in the air, backup plans seem to be to either have Braun Strowman or even Kurt Angle at the ready in case the original idea doesn't pan out.
 
It's clear the other year when Ronda grabbed Steph that the long term plan in a ideal world would be that.
 
Having Asuka take her time to pick a champion blends into it. If she picks Charlotte we might see the mixed tag match (in the new mixed tag era). If she picks Alexa it saves Ronda for Charlotte.
 
If the original idea doesn't happen, it shouldn't happen at all. Braun and Kurt should be in one on one matches on the biggest stage.


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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 31/January/2018 at 13:02
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Quote As noted before, it appears WWE is hoping to have Ronda Rousey team up with The Rock to take on the Stephanie McMahon & Triple H duo at WrestleMania. With the Rock's participation in the event truly up in the air, backup plans seem to be to either have Braun Strowman or even Kurt Angle at the ready in case the original idea doesn't pan out.
 
It's clear the other year when Ronda grabbed Steph that the long term plan in a ideal world would be that.

I would admit the match as originally planned (Rock & Rousey against Helmsley & Steph) makes sense, as the seeds of it were planted at WrestleMania 31 a few years ago. I could live with it and see it as an entertainment attraction. Plus of course Rock and Helmsley have a legendary rivalry going back to 1997. 

Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Having Asuka take her time to pick a champion blends into it. If she picks Charlotte we might see the mixed tag match (in the new mixed tag era). If she picks Alexa it saves Ronda for Charlotte.
 
If the original idea doesn't happen, it shouldn't happen at all. Braun and Kurt should be in one on one matches on the biggest stage.

However, no way would I want an unproven rookie like Rousey go against a veteran Champ in Charlotte or even Bliss. People should earn matches against Champs, even celebrities. 

If neither are Champ by that time, it's not that bad. I've resigned to the fact that Rousey will take an unearned WrestleMania spot either way because she's a celebrity. 

I actually agree with you that Strowman should be in a singles match at Wrestlemania. 


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 31/January/2018 at 14:19
Strowman should definitely be in a major singles match, he deserves better than some celebrity one off attraction, with the run he’s on he needs something with a more long term goal.

I think it’s unlikely The Rock will be wrestling unless they can do it in a way where his participation is kept very minimal and basic so he can avoid injury risk. I could live with Kurt Angle as a replacement for The Rock, it limits the strain put on Kurt by being in a tag match and it makes storyline sense with the history between him and Triple H.

Ultimately this match is all about Ronda's debut so I would rather they use part-timers like Angle than involve any of the full time roster.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 31/January/2018 at 14:39
They've been building towards Triple H vs Braun so I could see how this would go down, especially since Stephanie is the... er... what do they call her role on TV again? Commissioner? of Raw. It would be very easy to have her come in and lay the smackdown on Braun and for Braun to retaliate, thus setting up the match of his vs the Authority, and just needing a woman to join him.

Still would rather Braun vs Lesnar though... maybe Braun can win the title at the elimination chamber, and then shit can go down while he is champion, get stripped of the title and 'fired' setting up the feud for mania?


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 03/February/2018 at 15:01
Quote  Below is the current rumored card for WrestleMania 34, which takes place on April 8th from the Mercedes-Benz Superdome in New Orleans. It should be noted that this is the rumored card based on what has been reported. No word yet on who RAW Tag Team Champions The Bar or SmackDown Tag Team Champions The Usos may defend against but there could be multi-team matches. There's also no word yet on who WWE United States Champion Bobby Roode might defend against.

WWE Universal Title Match
Roman Reigns vs. Brock Lesnar

WWE Title Match
Shinsuke Nakamura vs. AJ Styles

RAW Women's Title Match
Nia Jax vs. Alexa Bliss

SmackDown Women's Title Match
Asuka vs. Charlotte Flair

WWE Intercontinental Title Match
Braun Strowman vs. The Miz

Ronda Rousey and a partner (The Rock & WWE Hall of Famer Kurt Angle have been rumored) vs. Triple H and Stephanie McMahon

John Cena vs. The Undertaker

Finals of the WWE Cruiserweight Title Tournament

The 5th Annual Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal

I think everyone is expecting Reigns v Lesnar so thats no surprise

What is a surprise is that they seem to be moving towards Asuka v Charlotte as opposed to having her face off against Bliss. Should be a good match as both Women are pretty much dominant.

Bliss v Jax is interesting as they are both best friends

Strowman v Miz would also be well received and even the mix tag for Rousey is good.

Everyone has wanted to see Cena v Taker for years now but maybe its a bit too late given Takers physical condition




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Posted By: Collywog3:16
Date Posted: 08/February/2018 at 14:48
I can’t see Asuka moving to the SmackDown brand unless they plan on trading Charlotte back to RAW with a Superstar Shake Up deal post Mania. Actually Asuka on SmackDown would be beneficial all round considering she’d have fresh opponents (she already beat Sasha and Bayley two straight weeks recently) and if RAW has Ronda, then SmackDown needs a strong female angle heading into Mania.

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Posted By: xXDemon_DuckXx
Date Posted: 09/February/2018 at 19:24
The rumored card is very hit or miss for me. Some of the matches are must-see, the others I have little to no interest in seeing. There seems to be very little that sits in the middle ground.

The trigger for Cena v. Taker should have happened a LONG time ago. I can't say I'm interested in seeing Taker limp around the ring again. I stand by my opinion that he should have retired after the Lesnar match, because what has been accomplished since then? Pretty much nothing.

Speaking of having no interest: Rousey/??? v. The Helmslys. Unless they're giving Rousey ring time prior to WM (doubting that it'll happen), the match will most likely be male-dominated with Rousey getting maybe 2-3 minutes of ring time before making Steph submit. And anyone familiar with Rousey's UFC work should know damn well that WWE will want her to use the armbar as her finisher.

Continuing with the trend, Reigns v Lesnar II. Yawn...I'm going to be skipping this match. Zero interest in seeing "The Big Dog" overcome the odds against "The Beast Incarnate" and reclaim "His yard". (Did I miss any of the tag lines? I'm sure I did, there's a million of them.)

A bit of a surprise that there is only one multi-man match. Past years have indicated that WWE tries to get as many people as they can on the show, which means a few of the matches have more than 2 men/women in them. Since there isn't any tag-team title matches announced yet, I fully expect one of them to be a gimmick match of some caliber.

Asuka moving to Smackdown may be the best move, since she's practically beaten every woman on the Raw roster many times over. Plus they'll want to keep Asuka and Ronda on separate shows so they can cash on in them facing off later on down the road. Asuka v. Charlotte could (and probably would be) one of the best matches on the show.


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Posted By: Dipton Daredevil
Date Posted: 10/February/2018 at 00:18
Match Card for the Wrestlemania 34 (Super Show)

Kick Off Show

  1. Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
  2. Bludgeon Brothers vs Usos vs New Day (Smackdown Tag Team Championship Tornado Tag Match) 
  3. Roderick Strong vs Rey Mysterio (Cruiserweight Championship Match)

Main Card

  1. The Bar vs The Broken Hardy Boyz vs Gallows & Anderson vs The Revival vs Authors of Pain (Raw Tag Team Championship War Games Match)
  2. Kevin Owens vs Sami Zayn
  3. Alexa Bliss vs Asuka (Raw Women's Championship Match)
  4. Bobby Roode vs Dolph Ziggler (United States Championship Ladder Match)
  5. Braun Strowman vs Goldberg
  6. Seth Rollins vs Kurt Angle
  7. The Miz vs Finn Balor vs Samoa Joe vs Bray Wyatt (Intercontinental Championship Fatal 4 Way Match)
  8. Charlotte Flair vs 
  9. Aj Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamura (WWE Championship Match)
  10. John Cena vs The Undertaker (Career vs Career Hell in a Cell Match)
  11. Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns (Universal Championship Match)


Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 12/February/2018 at 14:39
Quote

Thanks to http://www.betwrestling.com/" rel="nofollow - betwrestling.com for sending this in:

Wrestlemania season is often filled with speculation on which of the matches will be put in the main event slot and be the final match of the event. It is considered the greatest of honors to go on last on the biggest and most monumental show of the year. While the matches for “The Show of Shows” is yet non-existent, it is slowly coming together the card draws near. There have also been many rumors from insiders as to what the announced matches will end up being.

Grosvenor Casinos is offering odds on what the finale of Wrestlemania will be and the favorite is a match that has been the long rumored Wrestlemania 31 rematch of Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns. This match is favored at -150, and even though Roman didn't win the Royal Rumble to challenge for Lesnar's Universal Championship, he will be competing in the Elimination Chamber in hopes of getting this title opportunity. Beings as Reigns has main evented the past 3 Wrestlemanias, these odds are completely sensible.

The Undertaker has even odds of +100 to be featured against any opponent in the main event. While Taker seemingly had his final match last year in the main event of Wrestlemania 33 against Roman Reigns, leaked information suggests another match in the works. There are even universally believed rumors of Taker and John Cena finally having Wrestlemania match and strangely there are no odds on that specific match.

The Divas Revolution is apparently still going, with the ultimate goal being a Women's match main eventing Wrestlemania. Women's bouts have already main events recent PPVs and TV Shows, the latest being the first ever Women's Royal Rumble in Philadelphia. This match made history and while Asuka won the match against 29 other women, she was overshadowed by a Ronda Rousey showing up afterwards. It would not be surprising to learn that Rousey's involvement with Wrestlemania are the reason a Women's match going on last is a respectable +100, an even bet.

About the only match officially announced is Shinsuke Nakamura challenging A Styles for the WWE Championship and this match has odds of +200. Another bet being accepted, while it is unlikely he will even show up at the event, see Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson having odds of +300 to main event. One possible match for Ronda Rousey being rumored would be her teaming up with Braun Strowman to take on Triple H and Stephanie McMahon and that match has odds of +300. If WWE could get The Rock for this match, which is what they are believed to want, it would be a payoff to a Wrestlemania 31 angle that took place when Rousey first appeared in a WWE ring.

    WrestleMania Main Event(Final Match of the Event)
    Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns -150
    Any Women's Match +100
    Any Match Featuring The Undertaker +100
    AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura +200
    Any Match Featuring The Rock +300
    Braun Strowman and Ronda Rousey vs Triple H and Stephanie McMahon +300
    Any Match Featuring Daniel Bryan +500
    Braun Strowman vs Brock Lesnar +800
    Brock Lesnar vs Shinsuke Nakamura +1500
 
The whole gimmick of the Royal Rumble should mean more and so the last match of the night should be AJ Styles and Nakamura.
 
It should be a match that will be long and send the fans home happy. Seeing Brock phone it in against someone who will be booed heavily, isn't that option.
 
Nor should it be a women's match just for the sake of it.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 12/February/2018 at 15:27
It will not be Nakamura vs Styles, that I'm almost certain of, I would actually sooner put money on that match being the card opener rather than the main event.

It will be either Reigns vs Lesnar or The Undertaker vs John Cena.

I don't think they've stated for a long time that winning the Royal Rumble guarantees you the Wrestlemania main event, it just guarantees you a World title match at the show.


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Posted By: xXDemon_DuckXx
Date Posted: 12/February/2018 at 19:02
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

 
The whole gimmick of the Royal Rumble should mean more and so the last match of the night should be AJ Styles and Nakamura.
 
It should be a match that will be long and send the fans home happy. Seeing Brock phone it in against someone who will be booed heavily, isn't that option.
 
Nor should it be a women's match just for the sake of it.


It used to be, back when there was one main championship and it was the cornerstone of the Wrestlemania build. Nowadays, just means you're getting a championship match. The main event isn't going to happen unless your name happens to be Roman Reigns. Unfortunately, Styles and Nakamura won't be the main event. The highest it's going to be is maybe 3rd or 4th from the top.

Nobody wants Brock v. Reigns II, but that's what we're going to get. WWE was gracious enough to give us Nakamura as the Rumble winner. The fans are going to have to repay that favor by watching Reigns beat Lesnar to close out the show.

I do believe that we're going to get there, but this isn't the year that the women are going to close the show. Depending on how the women's divisions are looking, I don't think it would be a far cry to say it could happen in the next 2-4 years.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 12/February/2018 at 19:39
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

It will not be Nakamura vs Styles, that I'm almost certain of, I would actually sooner put money on that match being the card opener rather than the main event.

It will be either Reigns vs Lesnar or The Undertaker vs John Cena.

I don't think they've stated for a long time that winning the Royal Rumble guarantees you the Wrestlemania main event, it just guarantees you a World title match at the show.

It will 100% be Reigns v Lesnar

Taker v Cena would have main evented when Taker was undefeated and not a shell of his former self


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 15/February/2018 at 22:40
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According to a new report from Sports Illustrated, there are two women’s matches set for WWE’s https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wrestlemania-34" rel="nofollow - WrestleMania 34 pay-per-view event. This does not include Ronda Rousey’s role and match. The following two women’s matches are currently penciled in for the event:

* RAW Women’s Championship Match: Alexa Bliss (c) vs. Nia Jax
* SmackDown! Live Women’s Championship: https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/charlotte-flair" rel="nofollow - Charlotte Flair (c) vs. Asuka

As previously reported here on https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/ewrestlingnews" rel="nofollow - eWrestlingNews .com, Rousey is scheduled to take part in a mixed tag-team match against Triple H and https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/stephanie-mcmahon" rel="nofollow - Stephanie McMahon . According to the SI report, WWE is considering The Rock, Kurt Angle, Shane McMahon and Seth Rollins as her possible tag-team partner. There is fear within WWE that The Rock working https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wrestlemania-34" rel="nofollow - WrestleMania 34 may cause his films some insurance problems. As far as Shane McMahon is concerned, he is still involved in an ongoing angle with Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn. Seth Rollins was set to face Jason Jordan at https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wrestlemania-34" rel="nofollow - WrestleMania 34 but that will no longer be happening due to Jordan’s neck injury and surgery. Rollins does have some longstanding storyline issues with Triple H, though.

I would expect a clusterfuck type match to be added to the card, so every woman can be on the show.
 
There is no storyline reason that makes sense, as to why Asuka would leave the flagship show, especially as she's already beaten Alexa.
 
I'm not bothered about The Rock. It gets boring bringing back oldies that are never around.


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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 16/February/2018 at 08:19
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

It will not be Nakamura vs Styles, that I'm almost certain of, I would actually sooner put money on that match being the card opener rather than the main event.

It will be either Reigns vs Lesnar or The Undertaker vs John Cena.

I don't think they've stated for a long time that winning the Royal Rumble guarantees you the Wrestlemania main event, it just guarantees you a World title match at the show.

I think it's a safe bet whatever match Roman Reigns is in will main event, as that would mean he would have main evented four WrestleManias in a row. 

These kinds of rumors that state all the likely upcoming matches are exactly why I don't like reading sites like TUP; but I still can't help but to visit. We know months ahead of time what the big matches will be within fair accuracy. I do like this place or else I wouldn't be here, but for once I want to be surprised. 

As a pure fan, the match I want to see the most is actually Brock vs Undertaker again; with Taker getting revenge for ending the streak and maybe retiring as Champion. But that feud seemed to be done in 2015. 

We get what we get. 

Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Quote

According to a new report from Sports Illustrated, there are two women’s matches set for WWE’s https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wrestlemania-34" rel="nofollow - RAW Women’s Championship Match: Alexa Bliss (c) vs. Nia Jax
SmackDown! Live Women’s Championship:  https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/charlotte-flair" rel="nofollow -

As previously reported here on  https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/ewrestlingnews" rel="nofollow - - Stephanie McMahon . According to the SI report, WWE is considering The Rock, Kurt Angle, Shane McMahon and Seth Rollins as her possible tag-team partner. There is fear within WWE that The Rock working  https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wrestlemania-34" rel="nofollow - - WrestleMania 34  but that will no longer be happening due to Jordan’s neck injury and surgery. Rollins does have some longstanding storyline issues with Triple H, though.

I would expect a clusterfuck type match to be added to the card, so every woman can be on the show.
 
There is no storyline reason that makes sense, as to why Asuka would leave the flagship show, especially as she's already beaten Alexa.
 
I'm not bothered about The Rock. It gets boring bringing back oldies that are never around.

I could live with any of those matches. It would be good to see Nia as Champion; and we all know Asuka is (very deservingly) getting the belt. 

As for Rocky, I'll take a match with him. It would be good to see him renew his old feud with Hunter Hearst Helmsley. If he can't wrestle, the event will still be good nonetheless. 


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Posted By: John The Baptist
Date Posted: 16/February/2018 at 09:11
Sorry but two womens matches is too much, I can't deal with this new girl power trend it's almost as bad as when Triple H turned into a basement dwelling virgin and signed all the vanila midgets from the indys.

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Posted By: Tom Colohue
Date Posted: 16/February/2018 at 10:28
I would suspect Carmella will cash in before Asuka can get the definitive win, sparing Charlotte from a clean loss at mania and making Carmella a household name. I've suspected it for a while.

It's a shame they couldn't get another women's match on the card but I suppose the mixed tag will help to serve that purpose.

You say there's no storyline reason for Asuka to leave because she's already beaten the champion. That is the storyline reason. She's already beaten everyone on Raw, champion included. What's the point in staying for a belt when there's so much fresh competition on the other side?


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 24/February/2018 at 10:45
Quote Kevin Owens is reportedly set to face Sami Zayn at WWE’s https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wrestlemania-34" rel="nofollow - WrestleMania 34 pay-per-view. https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/dave-meltzer" rel="nofollow - Dave Meltzer said the following regarding the match:

“Kevin Owens/Sami Zayn thing made me think that they wrestling each other at https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wrestlemania" rel="nofollow - WrestleMania . Obviously, if they are going to do something they will do the big tease on March 11th. They aren’t going to be going at each other or splitting up before March 11th, I don’t think.”

Of course, take this report as only a rumor for now.

I'm sure they would love facing their best mate on the biggest stage of the industry they are in, but I wouldn't want to see it.
 
We've had them fued before and not even that long ago. Being on the same page as a team is much more refreshing.
 
If it does happen maybe they will let Sami have a big win over KO at long last, in his much weaker E career.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 10/March/2018 at 19:21
I'd love to see that match at Mania

The 2 of them put on some phenomenal matches outside of WWE and being best mates gives them that in ring chemistry to put on a potential 5 star match

Whether they would be given the freedom or the time to do that in WWE remains to be seen but given the way the angle has went lately - they had to face off at some point


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 11/March/2018 at 19:49
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

It will not be Nakamura vs Styles, that I'm almost certain of, I would actually sooner put money on that match being the card opener rather than the main event.

It will be either Reigns vs Lesnar or The Undertaker vs John Cena.

I don't think they've stated for a long time that winning the Royal Rumble guarantees you the Wrestlemania main event, it just guarantees you a World title match at the show.

Rumor has it that the main event will actually be Rousey and Angle v HHH and Stephanie - which is an absolute joke if true

Ive also seen that Sheamus open challenge is likely to be answered by AOP or a selection of superstars who are not yet a team on the main roster (so by that i assume maybe a team from NXT or 2 randomers from the current roster) - i hope it is the former of those two options


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Posted By: Dipton Daredevil
Date Posted: 12/March/2018 at 23:52
Main Card
  1. Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns-Universal Championship Match
  2. Aj Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamura-WWE Championship Match
  3. Charlotte Flair vs Asuka-Smackdown Women's Championship Match
  4. Ronda Rousey & Kurt Angle vs Stephanie McMahon & Triple H
  5. The Miz vs Finn Balor vs Seth Rollins vs Samoa Joe-WWE Intercontinental Championship Match
  6. Alexa Bliss vs Nia Jax vs Sasha Banks vs Bayley-Raw Women's Championship Fatal 4 Way Match
  7. John Cena vs Braun Strowman
  8. Randy Orton vs Bobby Roode vs Jinder Mahal vs Dolph Ziggler vs Rusev vs Tye Dillinger-WWE United States Championship 6 Man Ladder Match
  9. Sami Zayn vs Kevin Owens
  10. The Usos vs New Day vs Bludgeon Brothers-Smackdown Tag Team Championship Match

Kick Off Show
  1. Roderick Strong vs Buddy Murphy-WWE Crusierweight Championship Match
  2. The Bar vs Authors of Pain-Raw Tag Team Championship Match
  3. Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal-Winner Big Cass


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Posted By: xXDemon_DuckXx
Date Posted: 13/March/2018 at 09:53
Originally posted by Dipton Daredevil<u><b> Dipton Daredevil wrote:


Randy Orton vs Bobby Roode vs Jinder Mahal vs Dolph Ziggler vs Rusev vs Tye Dillinger-WWE United States Championship 6 Man Ladder Match


No...just, no.
I hate how WWE just has to shoehorn as many people as they can onto the show. This doesn't need to be anything more than a triple threat, and even then I'm still apprehensive against Jinder being anywhere NEAR a title.

Originally posted by Dipton Daredevil Dipton Daredevil wrote:

Roderick Strong vs Buddy Murphy-WWE Crusierweight Championship Match


...except that Buddy lost to Mustafa Ali.
We'll probably get Cedric and Gulak in the finals. If Gulak doesn't win, we riot. (I will at least.)


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 13/March/2018 at 14:27
Quote Last night on Raw, WWE announced the first ever Fabulous Moolah Memorial Battle Royal, which will feature women from all three brands - Raw, Smackdown and NXT - to take place at WrestleMania 34 next month. WWE.com had this to say:

"As first announced on Raw, this ground-breaking battle royal will pay tribute to the first-ever WWE Women’s Champion, The Fabulous Moolah, who not only paved the way for female competitors through the years, but also played a pivotal role in the first several WrestleMania events. In the highly-anticipated free-for-all, members of the Women’s divisions from Raw, SmackDown LIVE and WWE NXT will compete to be the last Superstar standing in the over-the-top-rope melee."

-- Also with respect to WrestleMania 34, Braun Strowman won a "tag team" battle royal on Monday's Raw which was meant to determine new #1 contenders for the titles currently held by Sheamus & Cesaro. With the win, Strowman gets a shot at the titles, but it is unclear who his partner will be, if he even has one.

-- The WrestleMania 34 lineup currently looks as follows:

    WWE Universal Title Match
    Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns

    WWE Title Match
    AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura

    WWE Intercontinental Title Match
    The Miz vs. Finn Balor vs. Seth Rollins

    WWE Cruiserweight Title Match
    Competitors to be determined

    Mixed Tag Team Match
    Ronda Rousey & Kurt Angle vs. Stephanie & Triple H

    WWE Smackdown Women's Title Match
    Charlotte Flair vs. Asuka

    WWE Raw Tag Team Title Match
    The Bar vs. Braun Strowman (and possibly TBD)

    Fabulous Moolah Memorial Battle Royal
    Competitors to be announced over the next few weeks

-- The following are rumored matches:

    John Cena vs. Undertaker

    WWE Raw Women's Title Match
    Alexa Bliss vs. Nia Jax

    WWE United States Title Match
    Randy Orton vs. Jinder Mahal vs. Bobby Roode

    WWE Smackdown Tag Team Title Match
    The Usos vs. The New Day vs. The Bludgeon Brothers

    Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal


 
I guess it's to be expected that after so many firsts, they would get their own version of the ATGMBR annual clusterfuck.
 
No issue with who it's named after. My issue is adding it just to get everyone on the roster, on the card.
 
The winner of it probably won't do anything of note as the trophy winner either.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 13/March/2018 at 18:56
The card is looking stacked

With this and Takeover - what a weekend of wrestling it will be


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 13/March/2018 at 20:42
And let's not forget the Hall of Fame induction ceremony. I'm very interested in seeing what Double J has to say. 

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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 14/March/2018 at 05:58
Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Quote Last night on Raw, WWE announced the first ever Fabulous Moolah Memorial Battle Royal, which will feature women from all three brands - Raw, Smackdown and NXT - to take place at WrestleMania 34 next month. WWE.com had this to say:

"As first announced on Raw, this ground-breaking battle royal will pay tribute to the first-ever WWE Women’s Champion, The Fabulous Moolah, who not only paved the way for female competitors through the years, but also played a pivotal role in the first several WrestleMania events. In the highly-anticipated free-for-all, members of the Women’s divisions from Raw, SmackDown LIVE and WWE NXT will compete to be the last Superstar standing in the over-the-top-rope melee."


 
No issue with who it's named after. My issue is adding it just to get everyone on the roster, on the card.
 
The winner of it probably won't do anything of note as the trophy winner either.

I am pleasantly surprised by this announcement, and I would say that the match has more value than just a match to "add everyone on the roster." I mean... battle royals are fun to watch right? I for one enjoy watching battle royals. And as the WWE takes women's wrestling more seriously these days, it should be much better than the one at WrestleMania XXV. 

I just hope this match doesn't end up on the pre-show. 

And it's great that they're honoring Moolah. 

I am hoping for Ember Moon!! 

Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

And let's not forget the Hall of Fame induction ceremony. I'm very interested in seeing what Double J has to say. 

I agree. That will be very interesting. I am still shocked his name was announced. 


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 14/March/2018 at 11:11
Originally posted by Kondor Kondor wrote:

And it's great that they're honoring Moolah. 

That's what I thought until I saw her Fabulous Moolah hashtag on Twitter and got clued up to her dodgy past, now I have changed my mind.

There is a petition to change the name of the match due to the serious allegations against her.

Apparently she was responsible for robbing other women wrestlers, them getting raped by men and trafficked.

As I said on Twitter, will E do a Chris Benoit submission tournament next?


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 15/March/2018 at 21:01
Quote  WWE is changing the name of the first-ever Fabulous Moolah Memorial Battle Royal to take place at WrestleMania 34. The new name will be the WrestleMania Women's Battle Royal.


WWE sent us the following statement on the name change today:

“After further consideration, we believe it’s best to proceed with the name ‘WrestleMania Women’s Battle Royal.’ What remains most important is that this historic match is part of WWE’s unwavering commitment to the Women’s Division.”


We noted how the public backlash over WWE paying tribute to the WWE Hall of Famer Moolah began as soon as the match was announced on Monday's RAW. Fans were not happy over how WWE was honoring such a controversial figure. Moolah has been accused of pimping younger women's wrestlers and taking their pay decades ago, among other bad business practices.

The fan backlash included hundreds of comments on social media, made to WWE's main accounts and the accounts belonging to Superstars. Various Change.org petitions were also created with one gathering more than 10,000 signatures. Fans also contacted WrestleMania 34 sponsors, including Snickers. Mars Wrigley Confectionery US, the Snickers parent company, issued the following statement on the matter earlier today:

"We were recently made aware of the World Wrestling Entertainment Inc's (WWE) decision to honor a former wrestler during the upcoming WrestleMania 34 event. As a principle-based business that has long championed creating inclusive environments that encourage and empower everyone to reach their full potential, this is unacceptable. We are engaging with the WWE to express our disappointment."


It's worth noting that the match is still listed as the Fabulous Moolah Memorial Battle Royal on WWE's website as of this writing but we will keep you updated on the change.


It didnt take WWE long to react to the backlash

Its probably for the best given all the accusations surrounding Moolah and maybe they should have considered this before announcing it although i think they only wanted to honour one of the icons of her era for what she achieved in the ring

It has got to an age now where whatever misdemeanours occur outside the ring - they seem to overshadow what was achieved in the ring 


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 15/March/2018 at 21:35
Quote Thank you @WWEUniverse for using your voice. What remains most important is that the “@WrestleMania Women’s Battle Royal” will be a historic match and is part of @WWE’s unwavering commitment to our Women’s Division. #WomensEvolution #ChangeTheName


Steph tweeting the bland new name, when it should have been named after another woman.

By not giving it to someone else it makes out nobody else was worthy of it.

I doubt they will explain the switch on TV, which will baffle those who don't care about the Internet or social media.

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