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Topic: The Shield.
Posted By: Fletch
Subject: The Shield.
Date Posted: 01/January/2014 at 23:12
With Roman Reigns on the verge of turning face and splitting from the group it got me wondering what will become of Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose. They could of course remain as a team or just go solo, one ther option though that I like would be for them to rebuild the Shield group by recruiting new members.
Keeping to their roots they could take one or two of the top guys from NXT, my top picks would be Adrian Neville and Corey Graves. These two are among the best in NXT at present, Neville is a great high flyer but lacks verbal skills so would benefit from being in a stable, Graves is better on the mic but would be a good fit for a heel group and it would be a easy way to introduce both to the main roster.

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Posted By: NFaMouZ
Date Posted: 02/January/2014 at 00:08
If they do keep The Shield going then they will probably go for a guy with a bit of size because the size of Ambrose and Rollins as well as having to replace Reigns.

Going to wave the Cesaro flag but that's a long shot. 


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 02/January/2014 at 12:31
Originally posted by NFaMouZ NFaMouZ wrote:

If they do keep The Shield going then they will probably go for a guy with a bit of size because the size of Ambrose and Rollins as well as having to replace Reigns.

Going to wave the Cesaro flag but that's a long shot. 

Would be decent if it was Cesaro but if anyone it would probably be someone like mason ryan

Once Reigns splits though i dont think The Shield stable will exist - they will both fall into the mid card abyss


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 02/January/2014 at 17:16
Ok dumb ignorant question. Is there some reason Rollin and Reigns are going to split? I haven't been watching smackdown but to my knowledge the heat is being built up between Ambrose and Reigns, am I right? Why can't it be that Ambrose leaves the group and the tag team of Rollins and Reigns stays in tact? Is it just the prevailing rumors of Reigns starting a singles career soon?

I think I am going to side with Steve Austin on this one. Tag teams are crap lately for the primary reason that they never stick together for very long anymore. With a 3 man group, I can see Ambrose leaving, but the tag champions ought to be kept together. A good tag team, in a healthy division is worth a lot more to a pay per view than some guy going off on his own and ultimately failing to deliver.

I know there's a lot of smarky love out there for Roman Reigns right now, but Roman Reigns is not Bret Hart. Roman Reigns isn't Shawn Michaels. Roman Reigns is Arn Anderson. Roman Reigns is Hawk. Roman Reigns is Davey Boy Smith. He is the muscle and enforcer to a tag team that if it just stuck together for a number of years will likely go down as one of the, if not the greatest tag teams ever.

if Roman Reigns leaves the Shield, wwe's tag division suffers a gigantic blow it likely doesn't recover from any time soon. It is bad enough they split up Tons of Funk. Tensai should have turned heel with Brodus and they could be contending for the titles right now. If Roman Reigns goes, fuck the tag division. I would be very pissed off that they never cashed in on Shield vs Wyatts.

this is the standard crap both organizations have been pulling that has undermined tag team wrestling for over 20 years now. The Rockers breakup WAS amazing, and Shawn went on to have one of the greatest careers ever. But LOD, Midnight Express, Rock and Roll Express, Freebirds and the like were just as big in their territories in their heyday, and not even Hawk, with all his genius ability and look could have been a big singles star, but LOD? They were money, badass beyond belief, and could easily main event.

Roman Reigns is green as grass. Keep Shield together and gaining experience and credibility as a tag team powerhouse that stands up to historical comparisons with REAL tag team legends, and maybe a few years from now Reigns will be experiences enough to stand on his own. Right now he is just getting set up for failure. Kind of like Ryback was in 2012. Don't waste Reigns like that. Don't waste this awesome tag team that is Rollins and Reigns like that.

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Posted By: Tragon70
Date Posted: 02/January/2014 at 18:49
Everyone is so ready for the Shield to break up & go there seperate ways. I honestly feel it's too early for a split. Despite Roman Reigns looking like a future main eventer doesn't mean everyone should jump the gun. Elevating a talent has to take time. Roman Reigns has no personality or charisma so him getting over by himself is gonna be difficult. I personally feel Dean Amberose has a better shot because he's overall better than the 2 in my opinion. The shield should stick together & feud with the Wyatt family in the future because everyone wants to see that.

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Posted By: thundarr2000
Date Posted: 02/January/2014 at 19:43
I was thinking how weird it would be to see the Shield, as a complete unit, turn face. And then ally themselves with CM Punk. Then there would be two 4-man groups to face each other. 

I think that it is too far too soon for the group to break-up. Ambrose just needs to lose the US title to get his ego back in check. Then they could go with the 3-man gang approach and go after the tag titles.

But then again, I'm still disappointed they didn't invoke the Freebird rule before.





Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 02/January/2014 at 20:59
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Ok dumb ignorant question. Is there some reason Rollin and Reigns are going to split? I haven't been watching smackdown but to my knowledge the heat is being built up between Ambrose and Reigns, am I right? Why can't it be that Ambrose leaves the group and the tag team of Rollins and Reigns stays in tact? Is it just the prevailing rumors of Reigns starting a singles career soon?

I think I am going to side with Steve Austin on this one. Tag teams are crap lately for the primary reason that they never stick together for very long anymore. With a 3 man group, I can see Ambrose leaving, but the tag champions ought to be kept together. A good tag team, in a healthy division is worth a lot more to a pay per view than some guy going off on his own and ultimately failing to deliver.

I know there's a lot of smarky love out there for Roman Reigns right now, but Roman Reigns is not Bret Hart. Roman Reigns isn't Shawn Michaels. Roman Reigns is Arn Anderson. Roman Reigns is Hawk. Roman Reigns is Davey Boy Smith. He is the muscle and enforcer to a tag team that if it just stuck together for a number of years will likely go down as one of the, if not the greatest tag teams ever.

if Roman Reigns leaves the Shield, wwe's tag division suffers a gigantic blow it likely doesn't recover from any time soon. It is bad enough they split up Tons of Funk. Tensai should have turned heel with Brodus and they could be contending for the titles right now. If Roman Reigns goes, fuck the tag division. I would be very pissed off that they never cashed in on Shield vs Wyatts.

this is the standard crap both organizations have been pulling that has undermined tag team wrestling for over 20 years now. The Rockers breakup WAS amazing, and Shawn went on to have one of the greatest careers ever. But LOD, Midnight Express, Rock and Roll Express, Freebirds and the like were just as big in their territories in their heyday, and not even Hawk, with all his genius ability and look could have been a big singles star, but LOD? They were money, badass beyond belief, and could easily main event.

Roman Reigns is green as grass. Keep Shield together and gaining experience and credibility as a tag team powerhouse that stands up to historical comparisons with REAL tag team legends, and maybe a few years from now Reigns will be experiences enough to stand on his own. Right now he is just getting set up for failure. Kind of like Ryback was in 2012. Don't waste Reigns like that. Don't waste this awesome tag team that is Rollins and Reigns like that.


You raise some very good points there but I think with the right booking Roman Reigns can become a big star even if he is still a little green. Hes proved over the last year that hes developing fast and will continue to, the key will be to not rush his turn and to make sure his first major feud is with a heel who can make him look like a million dollars, best example is when Triple H turned Batista into a mega-star, Bats' slow burning face turn was perfectly executed and his popularity exploded, this is the kind of well planned and well timed booking that needs to be done with Reigns.
As for the tag-division I see no reason why Ambrose and Rollins cant become a regular team or as I mentioned earlier the Shield can draft in new members and still be a force in the tag ranks.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 02/January/2014 at 23:57
The only problem with Ambrose and Rollins tagging, and literally the only problem I have with it, is that is a reset button on the Shield. Rollins and Reigns were the tag champs, and Ambrose was the third wheel. Now that said, it wouldn't be the end of the world. Rollins and Ambrose, were they to become tag champs BEFORE Reigns takes off on his own could work out acceptably. But if Reigns takes off before it happens, then the cohesive unit looks fractured because thus far Rollins and Ambrose haven't done a whole lot of tagging as a 2 man team.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 03/January/2014 at 10:58
This is why I suggested bringing a couple of NXT guys up to replace Reigns in the Shield, that way the group effectively becomes stronger rather than appearing as a fractured unit. I agree if Reigns heads into a solo role and Rollins and Ambrose just become another tag-team it will seem like a step backwards because both men are also ready for the singles ranks, Rollins in particular I think is being touted as a future top guy, he is smooth on the mic and the strongest worker of all three in the ring.

As I mentioned Adrian Neville and Corey Graves are two guys I would like to see join the Shield, if it happened I could see Neville forming a team with Ambrose, nice contrast of styles and it would allow Ambrose to handle the promos, Graves and Rollins could then be the regular singles guys.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 03/January/2014 at 14:11
http://www.wwe.com/videos/cm-punk-wants-to-face-one-member-of-the-shield-raw-dec-30-2013-26173119

It was good booking of Punk the way he planted more seeds of discontention into The Shield.

I hope when the group finally disbands that they are all continued to be used properly.

The only group problem I have at the moment is Dean Ambrose hasn't had a proper fued as champion in too long.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 04/January/2014 at 11:47
Quote  You may remember there appeared to be a feud brewing between then-NXT star Dean Ambrose and Mick Foley back in early 2012. Foley says he's thinking about discussing what happened on his comedy shows. Foley tweeted the following about Ambrose during tonight's SmackDown:

"After listening to @TheDeanAmbrose do commentary, my 10 year old turned to me, and said "Dad, he's a good talker." Indeed he is. I'm thinking about addressing my unresolved issue with @TheDeanAmbrose from #Wrestlemania 2012 as part of my 2014 live shows. #Smackdown"

Now i would be quite happy to see this .....

Ambrose has been mediocre at best in the Shield and all of the build up suggested that he would be the "one to watch" - i saw quite abit of his stuff with foley on youtube and thought it was excellent.

Hopefully we get a cactus jack v ambrose match at the end of it.

I dont really see Ambrose doing anything high profile if the shield break up as all of the focus will be rightfully on roman reigns so this could be a way to keep him in the spotlight and on tv regularly


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 04/January/2014 at 18:17
I still maintain that Ambrose is the star of the group, but then, you #Heel, and I are about the only guys here that still see Ziggler as main event too... we also both have Wyatt sigs and avatars. So me agreeing with you means nothing. Heheh.

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Posted By: Willy1225
Date Posted: 04/January/2014 at 19:22
Why the hell is wwe breaking this group up?

They are great as a tandem and if you break them up, you have to rebuild them all individually from scratch and if they go the route of replacing Reigns in the group, it will probably work out as well as The New Nexus did. Not to mention I don't think Reigns has what it takes to be a great babyface character.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 05/January/2014 at 01:24
Originally posted by Willy1225 Willy1225 wrote:

Why the hell is wwe breaking this group up?

They are great as a tandem and if you break them up, you have to rebuild them all individually from scratch and if they go the route of replacing Reigns in the group, it will probably work out as well as The New Nexus did. Not to mention I don't think Reigns has what it takes to be a great babyface character.


There is the Willy I used to always side with... er...

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Posted By: thundarr2000
Date Posted: 05/January/2014 at 06:57
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

Hopefully we get a cactus jack v ambrose match at the end of it.
Mick Foley has admitted that doctors have told him he can't wrestle again. Have you seen him walk? He's got a serious limp these days. Even after losing some weight and doing the DDPyoga thing,

Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

I dont really see Ambrose doing anything high profile if the shield break up as all of the focus will be rightfully on roman reigns so this could be a way to keep him in the spotlight and on tv regularly
Ambrose could be like Daniel Bryan and CM Punk. But he's going to need to be at the right place at the right time. Ambrose is the best talker out of the bunch (although I'm sure that both Reigns & Rollins could improve if given the opportunity.) 

Originally posted by Willy1225 Willy1225 wrote:

Why the hell is wwe breaking this group up?
Because the formula of breaking up great tag teams was super-successful 2 or 3 times in the past. That is if you count "successful" as meaning that 1 member of a team went on to be a big time main eventer while the other member(s) of the team went on to become answers to trivia question. Of course there's been far more times that breaking up a great tag team resulted in none of the guys becoming main eventers.

Originally posted by Willy1225 Willy1225 wrote:

They are great as a tandem and if you break them up, you have to rebuild them all individually from scratch and if they go the route of replacing Reigns in the group, it will probably work out as well as The New Nexus did. Not to mention I don't think Reigns has what it takes to be a great babyface character.
This gets into my argument for why I think that the Shield is better off together for at least another year. I think Reigns has great potential, but as a singles guy right now he'd get lost in the mix as he doesn't have a well-developed character yet.


Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 05/January/2014 at 10:45
Quote If the rumored Roman Reigns face turns plays out, there have reportedly been talks of having NXT talent Mason Ryan fill the vacant role in The Shield.

Nothing is confirmed as of this writing but it has been discussed in recent creative meetings.


Doesnt surprise me, he would be a good choice to provide the muscle to back up the skill of Ambrose and Rolins, this could also be another factor for a Reigns face turn - the fact they want a way to reintroduce Ryan to the main roster. I wouldn't have a problem with it, Mason Ryan has shed a bit of mass and has polished his in-ring skills in NXT, as Ive said before though I'd also like to see Adrian Neville in the group.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 05/January/2014 at 10:47
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Quote If the rumored Roman Reigns face turns plays out, there have reportedly been talks of having NXT talent Mason Ryan fill the vacant role in The Shield.

Nothing is confirmed as of this writing but it has been discussed in recent creative meetings.


Doesnt surprise me, he would be a good choice to provide the muscle to back up the skill of Ambrose and Rolins, this could also be another factor for a Reigns face turn - the fact they want a way to reintroduce Ryan to the main roster. I wouldn't have a problem with it, Mason Ryan has shed a bit of mass and has polished his in-ring skills in NXT, as Ive said before though I'd also like to see Adrian Neville in the group.

Jan 02 2014

Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

Originally posted by NFaMouZ NFaMouZ wrote:

If they do keep The Shield going then they will probably go for a guy with a bit of size because the size of Ambrose and Rollins as well as having to replace Reigns.

Going to wave the Cesaro flag but that's a long shot.  

Would be decent if it was Cesaro but if anyone it would probably be someone like mason ryan



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Posted By: Willy1225
Date Posted: 05/January/2014 at 16:34
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Quote If the rumored Roman Reigns face turns plays out, there have reportedly been talks of having NXT talent Mason Ryan fill the vacant role in The Shield.

Nothing is confirmed as of this writing but it has been discussed in recent creative meetings.


Doesnt surprise me, he would be a good choice to provide the muscle to back up the skill of Ambrose and Rolins, this could also be another factor for a Reigns face turn - the fact they want a way to reintroduce Ryan to the main roster. I wouldn't have a problem with it, Mason Ryan has shed a bit of mass and has polished his in-ring skills in NXT, as Ive said before though I'd also like to see Adrian Neville in the group.


I thought Mason Ryan was returning to wwe on January 20th

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 05/January/2014 at 16:37
How did that whole Batista-Mason Ryan comparison start? I have seen the meme, but was that the start of it?

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Posted By: Willy1225
Date Posted: 05/January/2014 at 16:50
He debuted a little while after Batista left and he looked just like him (outside of the tattoos).

He was jacked up, had a beard and if you just took a quick glance at him he looked just like Batista.

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Posted By: thundarr2000
Date Posted: 05/January/2014 at 21:55
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

How did that whole Batista-Mason Ryan comparison start? I have seen the meme, but was that the start of it?
When Mason Ryan first appeared, the Spanish announcers actually called him "Batista 2."

Mason has switched up his look since he disappeared after Nexus 2.


I don't think he'd get any Batista chants now.

Still, I think that there's no reason to messing around with the Shield members. The longer the team sticks together as heels, the bigger the switch becomes. The Shield need to have another run with the TTC. 


Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 05/January/2014 at 22:44
Ryan has improved a great deal on NXT, so is probably deserving of a second chance, and working in a smaller group would probably help him a great deal.

I agree with the notion the Shield needs to stay as a group for a while longer yet. If they want to turn Reigns face to see if he sinks or swims then they need someone else in the group before he leaves not after he turns as it's a feud setup instantly with him feuding with his old mates.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 05/January/2014 at 23:22
Yeah see I think the only way the move of Roman Reigns going on his own becomes tolerable is if he is kicked out and replaced by someone Rollins and Ambrose claim is a better fit, and Ambrose and Rollins become tag champs beforehand.

Then following that to help Reigns get some momentum back after getting kicked out and replaced, they can have Ambrose drop the us title to Reigns.

Not only that, but there needs to be a rule in creative that Shield doesn't change ever again, unless it is to drop the replacement guy to re-add Reigns. Just stop fucking with the Shield's roster.

I would much rather see The Shield turn face and start feuding with The Authority and The Wyatts.

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Posted By: Raven
Date Posted: 05/January/2014 at 23:51
Changing the Shield is a fucking stupid idea. These are three guys that came out of nowhere to run over all of WWE's top stars, and you want to change it up to put in a guy who was CM Punk's lackey two years ago, before Punk was a top star? Come on. They should absolutely break up, around Summerslam time, possibly the PPV after. Do it Evolution-style, but without the burial. Reigns wins himself a #1 contenders match, Ambrose (still US champion) costs him the gold, bam, there's your new US title feud. Rollins can go either way, but preferably he'd side with Ambrose and they'd go on to tag together while Reigns has a US title run that actually matters, if that's possible any more.

The Shield should stay the same, or it should end. There hasn't been a stable this good since Evolution (no, The Wyatts don't count, it's not a stable as much as Bray Wyatt and friends), you don't fuck with it. The Nexus changed up their roster too many times, and it fizzled in to nothing. The Shield don't need to become the new New Nexus.


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Posted By: bigfloridapimp
Date Posted: 06/January/2014 at 05:43
Id rather them break up and just be knwn as a faction that had no weak link and top to bottom everyone was amazing, thqn them muddy it up with mason. He has a good look, but hes not half the talent reigns is.

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Posted By: Wesker's Shadow
Date Posted: 09/January/2014 at 00:55
The Shield have become one of my favorite things about the 'E today. I wish I could've been tuning in whenever they had first debuted and followed all their antics but I certainly love all that I see. It's inevitable but I'm going to be so sad when they break up.  I really hope that the rumors of Mason getting considered as a replacement/new member are false. I want the Shield to be remembered for those three only. For after they break up, it's kind of hard to tell what they'll do. I know Reigns is slated for a huge push but I really want to see a bright future for Rollins and Ambrose as well.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 09/January/2014 at 00:57
Ambrose proved this last Monday night why he is the one with the most polish. The guy is a natural on the mic.

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Posted By: Wesker's Shadow
Date Posted: 09/January/2014 at 01:08
Agreed! I have to say he's my favorite of the bunch. Good talker and worker. I really need to check out more of his indy work. Love me some Rollins and Reigns too but there's something different about Ambrose.


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Posted By: Steven Nyte
Date Posted: 09/January/2014 at 17:23
In my humble opinion, Ambrose right now is what Orton right now should be. A completely manipulative, unpredictable, entertaining son of a b****, where you never know if he won´t take you out right now with something you didn´t even see coming. Orton is boring, mostly. 

I can see why they want to push Reigns, the dude´s a freaking monster. However, I fear that he would sink when it comes to singles mic work. He may have some linguistic qualities he´s withheld so far though... who knows.

Rollins, imo is the most spectacular worker of the three, he is technically sound, he is quick like a hiccup and he can do the high flyin´ as well if needed. Also, he´s definately the second of the guys when it comes to the microphone, right after Ambrose. I can see him go far eventually... I would also like to see a feud between Ambrose and ROllins over the US Title, if it comes to one of them changing alignment....


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Posted By: Wesker's Shadow
Date Posted: 10/January/2014 at 01:52
Agreed, Ambrose has the potential to be a top heel. He's just got that look and mannerisms. I've watched some of his CZW stuff and he's just off the wall. He's got a Joker-esque feel to him but he's really spectacular at that type of character. He always makes me smile every time he's on screen. I really want to see that feud with him and Punk ignite.

Reigns is certainly a beast. His superman punch is so awesome. Like you said though, where he gains in power, the others have more experience in the ring and promo work. I think he'll get there though but I don't think he's ready for that massive push yet.

Rollins has got some serious technique to him. You have to love that ninja roll his does during the entrance. Like Ambrose, I need to watch his indy work more. I do know Rollins and Ambrose had an excellent feud in FCW. I've watched a couple of their matches and the chemistry is awesome.

It's kind of hard to tell if they're going to all go their separate ways or a two remain together. Rollins hovers between the two like a peacemaker so they make keep him with Reigns. They were tag champs together so the bond is there. We'll see how it goes.


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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 27/January/2014 at 05:09
I just want to say that (even though of course they had their [minor] squabbles in the Rumble match, as expected), I am glad they have kept the Shield as the same unit that debuted at the 2012 Survivor Series, and kept that unit together for a considerable amount of time. Raven is exactly right that the Nexus was fucked with too much, and I've always been of the opinion that the Nexus should have lasted longer (in its original membership.) WWE should not touch the Shield as far as membership goes, they are awesome as they are right now. When the time comes for them to shine as singles stars comes, then that will come. I know it is near inevitable that down the road in a few years some of them will feud with each other, as Shadow mentioned their past FCW feuds; but I agree with Pimpy that I wouldn't want any of them to seem like a "weak link." But I'd like them to keep together for a little while longer. 

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 27/January/2014 at 05:40
I'm now convinced Reigns is on the fast track to the main event. IMO it's still a bad move because he's still so green, the vets he wrestles will need to protect him a lot, but as long as they do he still has a shot at really shining, but I think he's going to falter with this (presumed) upcoming push coming too soon.

I would really like to see Shield continue on at least until next wrestlemania (31). At the very least I am still dying for Shield vs Wyatts in the 6-man tag.

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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 27/January/2014 at 05:54
Shield vs Wyatts in a six man tag would be very good. A fight between the two groups has been teased numerous times, including today's Rumble. 

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 27/January/2014 at 05:58
If it got a good build, I think Wyatt's vs Shield could go down as the greatest 6-man tag match ever.

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Posted By: Wesker's Shadow
Date Posted: 02/February/2014 at 01:48
So looking forward to Shield vs Wyatt's. I wish it was an actual bout inside the chamber but hopefully we'll get some sort of stipulation attached to it.

I don't see the Shield coming out on top of this feud though, especially not after the circumstances at the Rumble and this past week's Smackdown. If anything, I see the breakup at Elimination Chamber and a possible 3-way at Wrestlemania. Reigns is bound to be the one on top. They're protecting him too much with Ambrose and Rollins eating pins and getting the beat downs.

It's amazing though. Reigns has come such a long way since FCW. Ambrose and Rollins have done wonders to help him out. Sure he's still green but he's getting more comfortable on the mic and in-ring. I just hope they don't mess up his push and take things slow enough.




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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 02/February/2014 at 03:10
Yeah, I am happy we at least get a token match between the two teams. I hope it becomes a focal point in the upcoming weeks while Punk is gone. That promo by the Wyatts on Smackdown was badass. Just hearing that they were getting a match, and the feud kicked off in earnest this past friday on smackdown was enough to get me to watch smackdown for the first time in ages.

Roman IS being protected. It is funny how few people see that though. It reminds me of Scott Hall and Curt Hennig, the star was Hennig, but no one beleived it. They all thought Hennig was dead weight holding Hall back. Hall would hear that and be like: "What are talking about? He is doing all the work, and I wouldn't look half as good without him."

That is Roman Reigns without Rollins and Ambrose. Now, MAYBE, Reigns is ready to move from Hall AWA to Diamond Studd WCW, but not Razor Ramon yet. At least not imo.

The triple threat match should get a very good build, and I definitely see Reigns getting the win because he needs the push most. Rollins and Ambrose will be fine on their own in the midcard.

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Posted By: Raven
Date Posted: 02/February/2014 at 03:14
I thought you'd seen the Royal Rumble? Must be mistaken, you've clearly missed Reigns' performance. Can't have been watching Raw much either, he's put in better performances against Daniel Bryan than Rollins and Ambrose have.

Also, Ambrose is absolutely dead weight and is obviously holding the other two back. Rollins and Reigns will be top guys for years, Ambrose will be lucky to avoid joining 3MB.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 02/February/2014 at 03:17
I ahave noticed Reigns never has to sell, and doesn't talk much except for one or two lines. He does great like that but it doesn't mean he is good to go on his own. He would do best as a Heyman guy so Heyman can talk for him, and doesn't have to sell much once again.

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Posted By: Raven
Date Posted: 02/February/2014 at 03:33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPu84X0K5KY

Guy is better on the mic than Facetista, and that guy was one of the biggest stars of the last ten years. Reigns sells just fine, he was selling before he became the focus of the stable and you can see it in his NXT/FCW matches. 

As for making him a Heyman guy, fuck that shit. I still remember how much that helped Ryback. Heyman is a bigger name than Reigns, and naturally shifts the focus away from him despite best efforts otherwise. He's fine with Punk, or with Lesnar, because those guys are bigger than him. Reigns is not. Managers aren't a magical fix-all for any guy who can't work a mic, they either need to be debuting wrestlers or wrestlers that are bigger names than the manager. If you throw an established but not well-known guy in with a big-name manager, the manager takes the spotlight away because the wrestler becomes the manager's guy instead the manager being the wrestler's guy. It's a recipe for disaster and nine times out of ten it fails miserably.

Reigns is simple. Have him smack the fuck out Ambrose and Rollins at Wrestlemania, preferably with the US title on the line, run with that for six months or so, then push him to the moon. No managers, no perfect time to strike, no making sure he's ready, he doesn't need it. Throw him to the wolves, he'll do fine. I don't know if you've noticed the past year or so, but he's already been doing fine against all the top guys, and there's only so much credit Rollins and Ambrose can take. Fact is, even before Survivor Series he was getting small pops, that to me say that he's ready.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 04/February/2014 at 02:08


Just thought maybe people would be interested in seeing what a Shield triple threat match might look like. Here is a triple threat match from FCW between Rollins, Ambrose and Reigns (Leakee - apparently not pronounced leaky).

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Posted By: Raven
Date Posted: 04/February/2014 at 02:52
They've all clearly toned up since that match, they all look Chris Hero there.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 04/February/2014 at 02:56
They must be on the Scott Hall school of "nutrition" that he put Curt Hennig through back when they were in AWA. Hennig used to look like that too, then he joined the WWF and suddenly he was a chiseled beefcake thanks to Hall introduction to some 'supplements'.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 07/May/2015 at 18:52
Quote

It appears that the late decision to add http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/profiles/dean-ambrose" rel="nofollow - - WWE Payback pay-per-view http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/posts/tagged/main-event" rel="nofollow - - The Shield involved, was done by design.

Also read: http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/wwe-changes-the-payback-main-event-to-a-fatal-4-way-rollins-ambrose-reigns-orton" rel="nofollow - - RAW , where the angle was shot, still listed a regular triple-threat match between Seth Rollins, http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/posts/tagged/roman-reigns" rel="nofollow - - Randy Orton , meaning the Ambrose decision was definitely a late decision.

What's interesting about the change from a historical standpoint is the fact that http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/posts/tagged/wwe" rel="nofollow - - WrestleMania 32.

On a related note, there is speculation that in the fatal four-way match at Payback, http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/profiles/dean-ambrose" rel="nofollow - - Roman Reigns may end up turning on Orton. The company is lacking in credible heels but they do have new up-and-coming babyface talents that they could be pushing.

If Ambrose and Reigns turn on Orton, that would leave Rollins. Whether or not that means Ambrose-Reigns-Rollins would become a trio again, referred to as http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/posts/tagged/the-shield" rel="nofollow -



Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 07/May/2015 at 20:51
I'm down with that. I thought it was a mistake to break them up. If Ambrose is going to join with Rollins, why not Reigns too? It makes just as much sense, and it gives us The Shield again. Gonna be hard to recapture the magic of their first run, but I'd rather see that than any more of their singles runs. They started out looking really good when they first broke up, but TBH I haven't liked any of them on their own. I haven't cared a whole lot for Seth Rollins as MitB winner, or WWE champion for that matter, Dean Ambrose as the Lunatic Fringe had his moments, but mostly it's just been meh, Reigns... well 'nuff said.

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Posted By: ihatethatmonkee
Date Posted: 18/May/2015 at 01:19
ratings haven't been brilliant under Rollins title reign, so I wouldn't reall count any of them as being a success yet.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 20/October/2015 at 06:13
One night reunion. I would love to see this turn into more. Putting g this on the go home show could serve as foreshadowing.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 20/October/2015 at 14:11
Well rumours persist that Roman Reigns will turn heel any day now, if the way the fans shit all over his promo last week is anything to go by the sooner the better.

Obviously Rollins is the current top heel and Ambrose has been earmarked for going heel for ages, he remains popular but don't think WWE view him as a babyface that can headline major events so they would be willing to turn him heel.

So I reckon a reunion of the Shield is looking more likely than ever and perhaps this week was a way of testing the waters.

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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 20/October/2015 at 14:36
However if The Shield reform surely The Wyatts will need to be turned face to combat that? As three heel stables on no face stables would be hard to run.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 20/October/2015 at 15:56
New Day can turn face.

Wyatt would be fine as a face but his minions would not be. Maybe they'll kick Wyatt out and Harper will take over as the mic guy?

The main event had people chanting "This is awesome!" as soon as the 6 guys started facing off before the bell even rang. The fans definitely want more Shield vs Wyatts, and just more Shield in general.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 23/October/2015 at 15:14
Quote

Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose vs. Bray Wyatt, Erick Rowan and Braun Strowman

Both teams are out as we get ready. Luke Harper is not here tonight. They come face to face and Rollins stands behind his team. He finally steps forward and stands with them to a big pop. Rollins starts talking down to his partners as we get the bell. We finally get some action as Reigns and Rowan go at it. Rowan drops Reigns with a shoulder but gets rocked with a right hand. Reigns turns it around and tags in Ambrose for some double teaming.

Rowan turns it around and tags in Wyatt. Wyatt works Ambrose over until Rollins comes in and unloads in the corner. Rollins splashes Wyatt but runs into a boot on the next attempt. Rollins gets dropped over Wyatt’s knee and tolls to the floor to regroup. Ambrose taunts him a we go to commercial.

Back from the break and Reigns fights out of a Rowan hold. Braun and Ambrose tag in at the same time. Ambrose unloads but Braun grabs him by the throat and tosses him over the top. Ambrose hangs on and drops Braun on the top rope. Ambrose with a missile dropkick but Braun is still on his feet. Ambrose charges but Braun knocks him to the mat with a big impact. Wyatt tags in and beats on Ambrose. Wyatt with a 2 count. Rowan comes back in and drops a big knee for a 2 count. Rowan keeps control and hits an elbow to Ambrose’s lower back for a 2 count.

Rowan with a sideslam and another 2 count. Braun comes in and keeps Ambrose down before Wyatt tags back in. Wyatt unloads on Ambrose for another 2 count. Wyatt breaks Ambrose down with a headlock as fans chant for Ambrose. Ambrose fights out but Wyatt grabs him for Sister Abigail. It’s blocked. Wyatt misses a splash in the corner. Ambrose goes for a tag but Braun yanks Reigns off the apron and throws him into the barrier. Wyatt runs into boots from Ambrose. Ambrose with a missile dropkick. Ambrose finally goes to tag Rollins but he hops off the apron and leaves to boos. Rowan comes from behind on Ambrose. He goes for a slam but Ambrose lands on his feet and nails a clothesline. Reigns is back on the apron now. He tags in and nails a Superman punch on Braun on the apron. Rowan takes a big boot and a forearm. Reigns unloads on Rowan in the corner as fans count along. Reigns hits the Drive By on Rowan. Reigns knocks Strowman into the announce table and nails a Samoan Drop on Rowan. Reigns hits a Superman punch on Rowan but Braun breaks the 2 count. Ambrose attacks Braun but Braun throws him to the floor. Braun grabs Ambrose and starts choking him out. Ambrose comes in with a kendo stick for the disqualification.

Winners by DQ: Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose

– After the bell, Ambrose unloads on Strowman with the kendo stick. Strowman takes it but gets dumped to the floor. Ambrose goes for a big dive but Braun catches him. Braun slams Ambrose hard on the floor. Wyatt and Rowan come over and they beat on Ambrose. Reigns nails a huge leap from the ring and takes out The Wyatts. Reigns brings Bray in the ring as fans chant “this is awesome.” Reigns nails a spear on Wyatt, also taking out Rowan. Braun pulls Bray to safety as Reigns spears Rowan. Ambrose and Reigns stand tall in the ring as Reigns’ music hits. Rowan, Braun and Wyatt make their exit.



I hope it was just a fan tease because if they came back full time it would be a backwards step.

They used the group to get over to be singles guys. If they went back to being a group it would be an admission that they have failed on their own.

It was nice to see but lets keep it as a one time thing.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 25/October/2015 at 14:43
I disagree that it would be a backwards step, Roman Reigns who is clearly the chosen star of the group needs a reformation more than ever. As a face Reigns is getting rejected by fans every week during his promos which in fairness to him aren't even that bad, fans just don't want to cheer him and WWE will eventually have to acknowledge him and turn him.
Rollins is obviously already established as a top heel leaving only Ambrose who is popular as a babyface but it's pretty clear he's expendable at this point, WWE don't see him as a headliner either as a heel or face, I'm sure they view him as a upper-bracket mid-card act who can fill in quite nicely in the main-events when the true headliners aren't around, but ultimately it doesn't matter too much on a grand scale if he works as face or heel.

So I say put the group together again as heels, maybe introduce a fourth member as well, Baron Corbin would be a good fit.

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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 25/October/2015 at 15:33
Adders, you're nuts as always.

Reigns and Ambrose are turning heel tonight, I just know it (not really) and the wwe champion will have better backup than J&J ever was, and we'll be set up nicely for Shield to take the tag titles off the Dudley's at Survivor Series. New Day can turn face as they should be and then feud with the Shield.

At least... That's what I think.

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 25/October/2015 at 16:16
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Adders, you're nuts as always.

Reigns and Ambrose are turning heel tonight, I just know it (not really) and the wwe champion will have better backup than J&J ever was, and we'll be set up nicely for Shield to take the tag titles off the Dudley's at Survivor Series. New Day can turn face as they should be and then feud with the Shield.

At least... That's what I think.


I like all of this except for turning New Day face, they are super-over and their gimmick works so well because they're obnoxious heels, transitioning the gimmick to babyface would almost certainly kill off a lot of what makes them so entertaining.

Don't know if Reigns and Ambrose are turning tonight but it's on the cards, probably before Wrestlemania 32.

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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 23/November/2015 at 07:02
Well after all these rumors and storyline ideas (and I see them even if I don't want to) on TUP and otherwise about Reigns maybe turning heel and joining the "Authority" (with or without Rollins) or Ambrose turning heel and maybe doing the same; I just want to say that after watching the Survivor Series I am glad that they did not. I like the fact that Reigns and Ambrose act like friends and I like the fact that after their hard fought battle at Survivor Series in the tournament final (and it was a good match) they embraced and supported each other. I know that the powers that be might turn one of them later down the road and they might fight each other but for now I like that they are the way they are. 

And as I predict Rollins might be a good guy when he returns (as, as I said in the Survivor Series thread, I think he will feel ostracized that Hunter Hearst Helmsley favored Sheamus and that would lead to the Rollins vs Helmsley feud that myself and some others are predicting), I actually think next year the Shield might be reunited as good guys. There would be a lot of nostalgia there. 


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 23/November/2015 at 15:51
Well, I never really cared very much about seeing Reigns or Ambrose turn heel and then feud with the other, but I DO like the idea of BOTH of them turning heel and joining with WWE Champion Seth Rollins. Now that THAT is off the table thanks to Rollins' injury, the whole thing is moot as far as I'm concerned. Shield reforming as a face team is perfectly fine with me, heel or face I don't much care, I just liked the chemistry they've had together, and I hope sooner rather than later we get to see it again.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 23/November/2015 at 17:47
Well reports have said Rollins is set to return as a babyface next year which will open up the possibility of a Shield reunion as faces. As the group they were popular and it would be very difficult for them to get heel heat now so if it's ever to happen it would likely need to be as a face group, it might be a smart way to really get the fans to warm up to Reigns as well.

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Posted By: Pac-Man
Date Posted: 23/November/2015 at 20:04
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

it might be a smart way to really get the fans to warm up to Reigns as well.

That's another good point. There's no way most fans are gonna cheer for Reigns over Ambrose if Dean turns heel, and Vince is adamant on Reigns remaining a major face so he's probably not turning heel either.


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 23/November/2015 at 23:27
Originally posted by Pac-Man Pac-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

it might be a smart way to really get the fans to warm up to Reigns as well.

That's another good point. There's no way most fans are gonna cheer for Reigns over Ambrose if Dean turns heel, and Vince is adamant on Reigns remaining a major face so he's probably not turning heel either.


Yeah which I'm pretty sure is why the Ambrose/Reigns feud hasn't happened yet, at this point it's clear turning Ambrose heel to feud with Roman would do Reigns no favours as he would almost certainly be jeered while heel Ambrose would get a strong face reaction. Plus what would that achieve? Ambrose would job for Reigns and then slip to mid-card status while the win would do nothing for Reigns except prove the fans prefer Ambrose, but Vince sees Roman as the money man not Dean so who cares what the fans think.

I actually like Reigns as a babyface, he's got a Goldberg style intensity about him and he's proving to be pretty capable both in the ring and on the mic, I would welcome a Shield reunion as faces as a group of cool anti-authority heroes.

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Posted By: Kondor
Date Posted: 24/November/2015 at 06:35
Originally posted by Pac-Man Pac-Man wrote:

What else is off the table, or at least held off for a year, is the idea of a Shield triple threat match for the world title. Honestly, they had the opportunity with Seth Rollins' title reign and everything he'd done since betraying the Shield up to the WrestleMania cash-in to pretty much turn Seth into a major ruthless villain. Had they done that, we wouldn't be talking about a Shield reunion right now because we'd be talking about a blood feud between the three that could extend off and on for a good 5-7 years. The trouble with that is they obviously either had something else in the cards or had no idea what they were doing.

If Seth's return doesn't consist of screwing the Authority over, gearing up to fight Helmsley at SummerSlam '16, and apologizing to his brothers for chairing them in the back if they're both still face, I will loudly proclaim that Mr. and Mrs. Stephanie still have a golden shovel, because the idea that Seth Rollins would crawl back to them after all that will be a worse burial of his character than anything that could happen in a match.

Those are two excellent points, Pac Man. One, that if things had either gone or been designed different there could have been that "blood feud" between all the former Shield members and Seth portrayed as truly evil and manipulating. The cinder block incident comes to mind. Stuff like that could surely have been built on. I like your point that that could have been either they planned something better at the time or were completely incompetent. I'm leaning towards the latter. Quite frankly I don't think Mercury & Noble did Rollins any favors. 

The way things are now it upon analyzing it seems like Helmsley is the one manipulating and Rollins the pawn. 

Which leads to your second point I quoted, that if Rollins were to rejoin with the McMahon-Helmsley Era it would make him look foolish and a tad weak. Rollins almost has to be a face. 

Thus the answer is to either turn one of Ambrose or Reigns later or have all three reunited as good guys. I can see them teasing both; just like they teased Shield breakups in early 2014 before Rollins joined Helmsley. 

But as said I like Reigns and Ambrose as the friends that they are. The two have respect for each other and they seem to have a trust. Then again, that could make a turn by on of them all that more shocking and dramatic if done right. 

But the thing is that even if the Shield were to have had that "blood feud" earlier or if they later do have a similar betrayal by Reigns or Ambrose and subsequent explosion at some point down the road, it is of course inevitable the Shield will get back together at some point. I think the perfect example is the war, or "blood feud" if you will, between former DX members Hunter Hearst Helmsley and Shawn Michaels from 2002-2004. It appeared in mid 2002 that the two main DX members were reunited until Helmsley orchestrated a parking garage attack on Michaels. This lead to their Street Fight at SummerSlam 2002, the Chamber at the 2002 Survivor Series, their Last Man Standing at the 2004 Royal Rumble, etc. Then of course after their "blood feud" was over, they got together again in 2006 and remained storyline connected through the end of Michaels' career and on for ever. 

Fuck even the Rockers eventually got together again after the 1991 Barber Shop incident when Michaels threw Marty through the window. It took awhile as Michaels enjoyed glory in the WWF while Jannetty former the New Rockers and then went to WCW as a mid carder; but it happened.   

There will always be demands for a Shield reunion. It will happen no matter how far away it is. 


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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 24/November/2015 at 10:31
Well Rollins vs Triple H is apparently planned for Summerslam 2016 so would seem the Rollins face turn will be happening and a Shield reunion a strong possibility.

A interesting route to go would be for a Authority faction vs the Shield feud through 2016, would allow Trips and Steph to recruit some new talent for their team.

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Posted By: Baz
Date Posted: 24/November/2015 at 10:58
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Well Rollins vs Triple H is apparently planned for Summerslam 2016 so would seem the Rollins face turn will be happening and a Shield reunion a strong possibility.

A interesting route to go would be for a Authority faction vs the Shield feud through 2016, would allow Trips and Steph to recruit some new talent for their team.

The seeds have been planted for something along these lines already. I also think we'll be getting Reigns vs HHH in the near future too.

Authority vs Shield has potential to be an AE throwback in terms of Stable vs Stable.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 07/November/2016 at 10:36
Judging by Raw last week how it ended we can expect Rollins and Reigns to be put together in a tag team match.

I hope it doesn't lead to Shield reforming because how good they were should be left in the past with happy memories and not recycled.

Also hate that all the storyline hatred E want us to invest in would end up meaning nothing at all if they just make up.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 07/November/2016 at 14:54
I would be cool with it if they were to legitimately make up.

If they pretend like it never happened that would be stupid.

If they pretend they're only tagging together because it's convenient and they still don't trust each other, then that's a drag. Realistic, but not worth watching either. If they were to actually talk things out, come to an agreement, and give their friendship another shot, I'm down with it.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 18/July/2017 at 06:28
So I was just looking at this again, after what has been going down with Rollins and Ambrose, and what I said in this threads previous post still applies with Rollins and Ambrose just like it did with Rollins and Reigns.

With Ambrose and Rollins being outnumbered I really badly hope that Reigns does not go into the main event of SummerSlam against Lesnar and Joe and Lesnar get a rematch instead. Instead I hope Reigns reunites Rollins and Ambrose.

There is still a good opportunity to turn Balor heel and start an actually entertaining feud between the shield and the Balor club.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 19/July/2017 at 15:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifPyhxApiZY

I would have Rollins and Ambrose look weak again next week to keep the fans pity coming.

E put on their Facey the other day which two members of The Shield would make the best team, so they are obviously insinuating we could see the group back together.

A short term thing of all three working together to help with both the poor Raw rating and getting Roman cheered again.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 04/October/2017 at 06:03
So apparently Raw had a rare moment where Reigns actually drew legit babyface cheers, and it was before Ambrose and Rollins bumped into him in the locker room at the end of the show.

I would like to see the shield get back together again. I just wish the booking were better. The storylines lately have been so bad I just can't watch. Shield's reunion and Asuka's debut, along with a few other GOOD storylines could get me interested again, but man I am so sick of watching stupid shit.

What do you guys think? Is this enough to tip the scales and start to sit through a whole episode of Raw again?

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Posted By: Fletch
Date Posted: 04/October/2017 at 18:17
I like the idea and it's probably the easiest way to get Reigns a face reaction but then again fans might see through it as a obvious attempt to get people cheering Roman and still boo him, will be pretty humiliating for Reigns if Rollins and Ambrose get booming babyface reactions but every time he steps in the ring it's thunderous boos.

From what I can tell the plan is for a TLC match between The Shield and The Miz/Sheamus/Cesaro which is fine with me as the match should be excellent.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 04/October/2017 at 21:21
They have no other option with reigns

They've had him feud with and beat everyone and he is still hated

The only time he was ever popular was when he was in shield so it makes perfect sense to go back down that route especially given how over Rollins and Ambrose are


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 09/October/2017 at 15:08
Quote As seen on last week’s episode of https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/monday-night-raw" rel="nofollow - Monday Night Raw in Denver, CO at the Pepsi Center on the USA Network, WWE teased The Shield reuniting in the closing segment of the show where Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, and Seth Rollins all stood in the locker room while shaking their heads at each other.

It appears that WWE is setting up a six-man tag team match that would see The Shield take on The Miz, Sheamus, and Cesaro at the TLC PPV.  If the match is to take place, it could be announced after this week’s edition of MizTV. The Miz will interview Cesaro and Sheamus in that segment.

In an update, Dave Meltzer mentioned on https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/wrestling-observer" rel="nofollow - Wrestling Observer Radio that the reason the WWE is putting The Shield back together for this upcoming event is due to John Cena nor Brock Lesnar working the show. The feeling within the sports https://www.ewrestlingnews.com/tag/entertainment" rel="nofollow - entertainment company is that without Cena or Lesnar, they needed something to build the pay-per-view around.

I don't mind them being brought back for the one show for nostalgia, with so much big names missing.
 
But if it's a long term thing that would devalue what they achieved in the past by having to go back to it.
 
The group was to make their name before successful solo careers. If they stay back together after HIAC it would feel like they haven't been as successful on their own as expected.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 09/October/2017 at 17:33
There's not much to devalue. They HAVEN'T been as successful on their own as expected. It's been pretty lackluster really. Together they were awesome, apart... meh.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 09/October/2017 at 22:50
I think Rollins has been awesome on his own - his title reign was quaity

I've never been a fan of ambrose - he just doesnt really have any standout qualitys 

The whole lunatic thing isnt really working - he looks more like a guy coming off Diazepam than a lunatic


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 10/October/2017 at 06:52
See? That's just it though. Of the three Ambrose is to me the best. He has yet to hit his stride. He has a Jake/Foley kind of personality to him where once he turns heel, he is going to skyrocket. The fact that he was fairly good as a babyface means a lot, because he is a natural heel and it'll be 10 times better than his babyface run.

Rollins on the other hand is a better babyface, and his heel run was boring as fuck IMO, and his face run hasn't been all that hot either.

Reigns is still the guy with all the star power. People can hate him all they want, but at this point in his career he is pretty damned good now. He was too green to be own his own when they first split, but he eventually grew, but it cost him his fanbase. However the fact is Reigns is one heel turn from being the most over guy in the WWE.

That said, that is just my opinion. My point here is that everyone has their favorites but they all have a damned good shot of building a fanbase like never before now that they're all former WWE champions. Each has had a bumpy road, but with them all together again, their fanbase ought to grow immensely, and there is a very real chance that they take it with them in singles competition this time around.

Oh and BTW, their reunion is now official. Putting Strowman down was a good show for them.

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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 10/October/2017 at 19:18
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

See? That's just it though. Of the three Ambrose is to me the best. He has yet to hit his stride. He has a Jake/Foley kind of personality to him where once he turns heel, he is going to skyrocket. The fact that he was fairly good as a babyface means a lot, because he is a natural heel and it'll be 10 times better than his babyface run.

Rollins on the other hand is a better babyface, and his heel run was boring as fuck IMO, and his face run hasn't been all that hot either.

Reigns is still the guy with all the star power. People can hate him all they want, but at this point in his career he is pretty damned good now. He was too green to be own his own when they first split, but he eventually grew, but it cost him his fanbase. However the fact is Reigns is one heel turn from being the most over guy in the WWE.

That said, that is just my opinion. My point here is that everyone has their favorites but they all have a damned good shot of building a fanbase like never before now that they're all former WWE champions. Each has had a bumpy road, but with them all together again, their fanbase ought to grow immensely, and there is a very real chance that they take it with them in singles competition this time around.

Oh and BTW, their reunion is now official. Putting Strowman down was a good show for them.

I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion - i just dont get how ambrose has been the best ... he's the least interesting, hasnt really had the best storylines, had the worst title run - he's known as the lunatic fringe but literally does nothing to live up to that gimmick with exception of walking really fast with a weird look on his face

Rollins for me is the better all round member of the shield in every aspect

I do agree with you on Reigns having an element of star power - he seemed to become the most popular of the 3 the first time around but i think part of that was down to him getting the least mic time and was basically the muscle of the group - i see him getting the most air time this time around as they look for a way for him to somehow become the top face in the company


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 10/October/2017 at 20:29
Yeah, I get it. I mean, I'm pretty sure that Rollins is the more popular star between the two (he and Ambrose), but there's a not small group of people that like Ambrose better. To me Rollins is boring and cookie cutter, Ambrose as the Lunatic Fringe is still waiting to happen. Right now it's a name he calls himself, when he turns heel that's when we'll actually see it. Maybe it'd help to see some of Jon Moxley in the Combat Zone. I never really saw much of Tyler Black in RoH.

Either way you look at it, the two make a great team when they're with Reigns.


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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 11/October/2017 at 11:35
Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

I've never been a fan of ambrose - he just doesnt really have any standout qualitys 

The whole lunatic thing isnt really working - he looks more like a guy coming off Diazepam than a lunatic

I like him despite his stupid nickname related to his haircut. If they went back to Rated R so his gimmick could be full blown Brian Pilman he would be the most over guy on the whole roster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8M-A_KY60M

How amusing that the only way for Reigns to be cheered is by association with more popular guys and playing off the old nostalgia card.

Not a fan of their new t shirt or that the rebirth of the group wasn't a shock because we saw it coming for weeks.


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Posted By: Rico Len
Date Posted: 11/October/2017 at 14:12
Yah I hope to see them do their old entrance out of the stands through the crowd, wearing those shock trooper vests at the PPV. The shirts are lame. I mean, maybe not so much for a fan, but seeing them wear those shirts just seems dumb.

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Posted By: admin
Date Posted: 11/October/2017 at 14:26
Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Yah I hope to see them do their old entrance out of the stands through the crowd, wearing those shock trooper vests at the PPV. The shirts are lame. I mean, maybe not so much for a fan, but seeing them wear those shirts just seems dumb.

The shirts would have worked better being in their trademark black instead of making them more colourful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TP1zVBdosw

When they saved Matt Hardy that was cool. They are the hounds of justice afterall.

I'm happy that even though it was three babyfaces triple teaming a heel, the heel put up a good fight with Braun.


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Posted By: #Heel
Date Posted: 11/October/2017 at 19:22
I think, actually, i hope the shirts were only for the first night or two - in order to get people to buy them and that they go back to the traditional bad ass shield attire

The Shield in the first run were amazing and to get near that level again they need to pick up on all the things they used to do to make them stand out - as per Ricos post above about the entrance through the crowd etc


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