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    Posted: 14/February/2011 at 17:12

We are just 2 days away from the anniversary of the end of WWE's version of ECW.  After a four year run on Sci-Fi/Syfy channel, the decision was made to pull the plug on WWE's "c-brand."  While ratings were near the level of TNA, and higher than Superstars.  The program was a rating success by Sci-Fi's modest standards, but not by WWE's.
 
While I never agreed with WWE's decision to re-use the ECW name, I liked the role the brand would serve.  It was a place for talent from FCW to perform for a much larger audience.  It was also the place other struggling talent went to for re-packaging.
 
New talent John Morrison, the Miz, CM Punk, Jack Swagger, Ezekiel Jackson, and Sheamus all spent time on ECW before moving up the roster.  While veterans like Kane, Christian, Chavo Guerrero, Matt Hardy, Mark Henry, and Tommy Dreamer were all used to raise the brand's sole title's prestige. 
 
  
 
 
 
WWE's intended replacement for ECW was originally billed as "reality hybrid" concept called NXT.  But the program never captured the same regular audience that ECW had.  NXT's TV ratings continued to slip on Syfy.  A broadcast deal was then put into place where Syfy would begin to air SmackDown on Fridays and NXT was moved to WWE.com.
 
Now a year later, WWE seems to be struggling to find that same outlet for younger performers.  Somewhere for them to gain the experience of working in front of large crowds.  Raw and SmackDown have packed rosters, and can't seem to balance out TV time amongst their rosters.  And NXT has shown many of the FCW talents aren't ready for the big stages.
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I miss WWE'S ECW! Even though it really wasn't hardcore anymore, they had more wrestling and less storylines, plus they had better talent in my opinion. Now we have NXT which isn't even on TV anymore!
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ECW: A brand to get over new talent, that served a purpose with storylines, and seeing more wrestling action than a normal one hour show.
 
NXT: Like a Miss World contest for wrestlers, who compete in stupid games.
 
I know which i'd rather see on screen.
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To be honest, i actually miss the watered down version of ECW that WWE gave us.
Its a shame they got rid of it, to put on NXT which in my view was nothing compared to ECW!
R.I.P ECW!!!!

Credit goes to Bigfloridapimp for the Sig!!!!
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Matt Hardy looked good as champ on there, his feuds w/ Evan Bourne & Mark Henry were amazing.

ECW did a better job making jobbers look credible (Goldust, Snitsky, Chavo) than actually pushing youngsters. In fact the young prospects were usually traded as soon as they got over, Swagger and Sheamus werent on there for *that* long.

Superstars should probably do a better job in bridging the gap between FCW and the two main brands, tbh.
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Yeah, there were a lot of stars born on ECW! Evan Bourne, Jack Swagger, Kofi Kingston, Sheamus, Tyson Kidd (kind of), and Yoshi Tatsui. Plus they helped out wrestlers who did nothing on RAW and SmackDown like Matt Hardy, Christian, Kane, Mark Henry, and Chavo!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vladel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15/February/2011 at 19:19
I agree that ECW was a good proving and repackaging ground and is a bit missed i feel. The problem with superstars ever filling that void is it only ever seems to feature the same 6-10 wrestlers every week, although it does come up trumps as the best wrestling show in the WWE collective!
How you may ask?

Well on raw and smackdown you have 20% talking, 10% pointless segments (althoughthe jarret family on TNA impact really takes the fucking biscuit on that score let me tell you). 30% beatdowns and the rest is spread between uninspiring matches and the Miz....
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Originally posted by Vladel Vladel wrote:

The problem with superstars ever filling that void is it only ever seems to feature the same 6-10 wrestlers every week,

But isn't that the same with any WWE show? 

I kinda knew from the start that the WWE version of ECW was not going to be as hardcore as the original ECW; but it actually began not to bad. ECW relaunched in 2006 with a descent amount of true ECW originals, Tommy Dreamer, Sandman, Justin Credible, Stevie Richards, Balls Mahoney, Nunzio, Sabu, and or course the World Champ Rob Van Dam. They added WWE mainstays like Kurt Angle and later The Big Show for added credibility; which I had no problems with because in ECW Big Show did wrestle a more hardcore style than in WWE, utilizing moves like the Cobra Clutch Backbreaker. CM Punk was the first "young" talent they had, as WWE put him there in 2006 as opposed to Raw or Smackdown, to begin their standard of taking fresh talent and giving them a platform to elevate them; as they would later do with Jack Swagger, The Hart Dynasty, and Sheamus (and what should have also been for them, Elijah Burke). 

I think that three main things began the transition from an ECW reincarnation to a final launching pad in WWE developmental. The first major blow was Rob Van Dam (then WWE & ECW World Champion) & Sabu being busted for drugs in mid 2006. As punishment WWE stripped Van Dam of the Championship (causing him to lose it to Big Show); and when he came back he didn't have the same momentum and it wasn't the same. A short while later Van Dam left and the organization's biggest star from the original ECW was gone. 

The second major policy decision by WWE was, I believe in late 2006, when they "no longer treated ECW as a separate company". This actually had large effect on the way the show was both presented and seen; as before ECW guys would sit in the front row of WWE events and "invade" WWE, and now ECW was simply the third brand within WWE. The rabid jumping of wrestlers from one brand to another that had long been seen on Raw and Smackdown soon followed and ECW lost a lot of its identity that it had from when it actually was a separate company. 

The third thing was the inevitable leaving of ECW originals. RVD & Sabu both left, Sandman was traded to Raw in mid 1007 and was released shortly thereafter, and By late 2007 only Stevie Richards and Tommy Dreamer remained. WWE did not have the interest in keeping the memory of the original ECW alive. WWE released Richards in 2008 and "The Heart & Soul Of ECW" Tommy Dreamer finally asked for his release in late 2009. This left WWE veterans and newcomers to fill the void; and with the PG-13 policy WWE adapted in 2009 most any remnants of "extreme" were gone. 

But overall, even though it wasn't anywhere near the same as it was easy to tell it wouldn't be; I liked the WWE version of ECW. As said it had better wrestling. Plus,  JTB brought up a good point. Longtime WWE mainstays were given a place to showcase what they had when they unfortunately most likely wouldn't be given such an opportunity on the other two brands. Goldust has what I thought was an outstanding series of matches with Sheamus in late 2009 when The Golden One's talent (and I maintain he's the best wrestler in the Rhodes family; yes I said that) was untapped elsewhere. Matt Hardy would never have been a World Champion anywhere (and he probably won't be neither in his current TNA run); but he was given a run with the Title in ECW. And while many Peeps on this forum wanted more; Christian was given a great ECW World Title run. ECW had good wrestling its whole time through; and I do miss it. 

My final thought is that I wonder how Chris Benoit would have done on ECW. He was an ECW "Extremist" at the time of his murder suicide. 

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