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Yeah you might be right there, the similarities to The Undertaker may have been what made WWE repackage The Ascension into a Powers of Pain tribute act, the lost of Cameron hurt the team and then the repackaging all but killed them, now they are the comedy side-kicks of Breezango. I think it’s a matter of time before Conor and Victor get future endeavoured in honesty.

The original Ascension in NXT was like a morph of the Brood and the Ministry, the Brood was another great gimmick I’d like to see re-visited.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote L-shizzel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03/January/2018 at 22:35
I think a lot of the old gimmicks wouldn't work in todays world of WWE they would be too corny. 


I think a good gimmick for a wrestler these days is let them be themselves out there let them show their mic skills and wrestling in a heelish or faceish way to help get them over and they could maybe get over with a catch phrase (Daniel Brian) or just with pure wrestling (AJ Styles).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kondor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27/January/2018 at 08:18
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Demolition/Powers of Pain is a good shout, they tried with the Ascension but the execution was poor and it failed.


Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

I think after the rejection by the fans of the Ascension's main roster gimmick, we won't see it revisited again anytime soon.

I actually completely forgot about the Ascension when I wrote that. Anyway I hate it how they came on and claimed that they were better than the Powers of Pain right off the bat (or were told to do so.) I see what they were doing and why they went with it, and of course it didn't hurt the Powers of Pain's legacy to be compared to a far inferior team; but it's still cheap. As a fan, I would much rather have a team (or a singles competitor) earn their keep and then wait till the fans or someone else compares them to such and such. 

That all being said, I would still like to see a gimmick like The Powers of Pain used again; but you guys are right that it may be a while due to the Ascension. 
 
Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

The King Kong Bundy monster heel has been tried several times, some with success Yokozuna was that type of wrestler who used his massive weight to inflict pain, Yoko of course was also the stereotypical foreigner heel. But then you also had the likes of Viscera who only had moderate success.

There are certainly similarities with Yoko to Bundy, such as them using their weight; but I see them as two separate "gimmicks" as Yoko was supposed to imitate a Sumo wrestler and is a little more technical I'd say. The closest to Bundy I'd seen since he retired for me was actually Brodus Clay in his in ring style, at least in his big push in early 2012. But I would imagine most fans see Clay primarily as a dancer.  


Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

A couple more of my old favourites I’d love to see brought back to life would be Razor Ramon, excellent character portrayed by a ultra talented guy in Scott Hall, would be a tough act to follow. Carlito Caribbean Cool I think was loosely based on it.

Haku/Umaga the Samoan savage character is another one I liked. Easy one to duplicate too and plenty of candidates with the list of guys with Samoan ancestry out there.

Jake the Snake Roberts was another I loved but not sure a talent could get away with throwing a huge Snake around in the ring like Jake used to, think that might be frowned upon these days.

Good suggestions, I absolutely LOVED Haku from his early days as an areal wrestler, he's still in my top ten favorites of all time. I see Haku as more sophisticated or for lack of a better word more civilized and Umaga more savage as akin to Kamala. 

It would be great to see someone take a gimmick similar to Razor Ramon or Jake the Snake. To me the closest I've seen to Razor's tough and arrogant Caribbean gimmick is Armando Alejandro Estrrrrrraaaaaaada.  

If anyone is going to match Jake's personality he would have to be very good at psychology. Jake was really a once in a lifetime talent with the way he can deliver an interview or promo, as well as with his methodical ring work. I think Bray Wyatt is apt to come to most fans' minds as the closest to anything like that in both respects; but not even he is on the level of Jake. I think if the WWF allowed Raven to say some of the same things he said in ECW he would have matched that style of speech the most. But yes, anyone can use a snake or another pet as a gimmick and against opponents. 

Since we're talking about gimmicks that have repeated each other, Luke Harper & Eric Rowan's current gimmick in the Bludgeon Brothers reminds me of the Moondogs.   

Also, I've thought of another gimmick I would love to see return as per the original topic. 

Chyna - Not just in the sense of a strong dominant women wrestler, the comparisons have been made with Nia Jax today; but I mean in the sense of that strong dominant woman wrestler who regularly competes with men. Once Chyna moved from just being Hunter's bodyguard and stepped into the ring, she wasn't in the women's division. She was regularly competing in the men's division, going up against men and teaming with them, competing in the King of the Ring and Royal Rumble. Chyna was even Intercontinental Champion. 

We've had some women enter the Rumble since Chyna like Beth Phoenix or Kharma; but I would love to see a female competitor today outright enter the men's division. I have long actually thought this would be a good move for Asuka. But I'm sure it could also work for Nia.    


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Beth Phoenix I thought was going to be the new Chyna but I dont know what went wrong with her she just seemed to fall out of favour with management and was de-pushed. She also started acting too feminine rather than a female bad ass like Chyna.

I would like to see another Brood type group, its funny seeing Edge and Christian on their show make fun of their early days as part of that group as I actually enjoyed them alongside Gangrel in the Vampire inspired faction. With the popularity of vampires in shows like True Blood and the Vampire Diaries as well as the Twilight movies you'd think WWE creative would have jumped on this.

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A new brood would be sweet but who would you put in it. Especially with sANITY being on the rise. I would guess Elias, Bray, Balor and Paige but that would be too many big names IMO. Not sure who on the undercard you could bring into a group like that.
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Was thinking it could be a good reboot for the Ascension maybe, something needs to be done to save their careers so why not repackage them under this gimmick? Nothing to lose really.

As for the leader not sure, Bray’s gimmick is dark enough and he could do with a change of direction but I’m just not sure about him. They need someone from NXT perhaps that would be comfortable doing a Gangrel type character.
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Have you guys seen Shayna Baszler in her new character she developed since the women's tournament ended? Since she debuted in NXT she is the living embodiment of everything I remember Chyna for, except she is legit. She reminds me of two people, Chyna and Brock Lesnar, and surprisingly I really dig it. She is good at making you want to hate her and want to see her get her ass kicked, but too good to expect to see it happen. She is perfect for an underdog babyfaces opponent.

She is still green when it comes to ring psychology, but she is not terrible with promos so far it seems.

I suppose it depends on what you remember Chyna for though.

I remember Chyna most fondly for the early days of DX, and not her romances and heavy makeup and fake boobs. When she looked like she was a bigger badass than triple H she was great. That was a short time period in her run, but seeing her taking it to stone Cold, Foley and others was good... The Eddie, X-Pac and all that stuff was terrible.

Baszler to my mind is already on par with Chyna at her best and I expect to see Baszler in the Royal Rumble this weekend and have and impressive run.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fletch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/February/2018 at 15:45
If they break up Breezango(which I think they will sooner or later) then I would like to see Tyler Breeze reboot his character based on Shawn Michaels' early singles run as The Heartbreak Kid. This was a decent gimmick and I liked how Breeze modernised it with the addition of the selfie stick rather than a full length mirror like HBK used to have.

Also I was thinking perhaps Fandango could adopt a Rick Rude style character where he drops the dancing and goes for more of a vain narcissistic character who insults the crowd while he poses Rude style.

These two would likely only be mid-card at best but theres nothing wrong with that, only a select few get to main event and I think it would still give them a higher status than they currently have.
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Fandango is so funny IRL that I think he will continue to be an active part of the WWE, Tyler Breeze, not so much.


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