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    Posted: 30/December/2017 at 17:29
Having watched wrestling now since 1991 I was thinking about some old school gimmicks/characters that could be used or at least used for inspiration by some of today’s talent.

Here’s a few.....

Goldberg - This has been tried, Bobby Lashley was loosely based on Goldberg and then later Ryback. It didn’t work with Lashley because he was just too green and lacking in intensity and personality. Ryback worked better but unfortunately fans recognised the Goldberg similarities and started the annoying Goldberg chants at Ryback, then a combination of that, Ryback’s green and sometimes dangerous ring style and a few backstage issues persuaded WWE to go in a different direction with his character.

Who would be a good fit for it now? Lars Sullivan in NXT perhaps but he needs a bit more polish and he doesn’t have quite the same superhero action man look that Goldberg had.
Another attempt with Lashley perhaps if he were to return to WWE? He has sharpened up his all round act in the years since his departure and works the required power/athleticism/MMA style.
Alistair Black could portray a similar intense character who despatches his opponents quickly and for some reason I think Drew McIntyre could make this type of character work, not sure why though.

Big Poppa Pump Scott Steiner - For me this was the perfect gimmick for Ryback and still would be if he ever returned, have him work heel and brag how he’s a genetic freak, have him do the push ups in the ring and adopt similar mannerisms.

The Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels - Early Shawn complete with the mirror and valet Im talking about. They started it with Tyler Breeze but then Vince decided Breeze had no business being anything more than a comedy jobber.
I still think Breeze could make a success of this in a mid-card role if management give him the chance.

The Undertaker/Kane - The only guy so far to do anything like this is Bray Wyatt and to me he’s still more Mankind than The Undertaker. In NXT Alistair Black is a very dark and demonic character that could draw comparisons. I did think for a while Baron Corbin could be successful as a American Bad Ass Undertaker style character.
At some point somebody will surely try to replicate the gimmick but it’s probably too soon right now.

Stone Cold Steve Austin - It would be impossible for someone to portray a carbon copy of Austin until enough time has passed that he has faded from the memory of current fans, but it will be decades before that happens. Of the current roster I think Samoa Joe could be excellent drawing inspiration from Austin as a bad ass anti authority type.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LennyComa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30/December/2017 at 17:52
I would say the Rock but I can't think of anyone on the roster that can hold a candle to him  charisma wise and Miz already did the Hollywood Rock bit. 

Mr Perfect...Wait Tye Dillenger is kinda doing that

I think Bobby Roode could pull off a great Iceman Dean malenko Gimmick as a Lady Killer but his Glorious Bobby Roode is doing it for him atm.

I would like to see a new Cerberal Assassin gimmick Just again not sure who could fit that atm...maybe Baron Corbin
Y'know what?....It's really fucking hot here in Africa. Who knew?....Well me, I have been doing this for almost 5 years
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I think heel Bobby Roode is a more flamboyant version of the cerebral assassin, kind of like if you morphed Ric Flair and Triple H into one person. Roode’s ring style is very Triple H too.

One I didn’t mention was Ravishing Rick Rude, classic heel character that someone should definitely try and replicate. Can’t think of anyone off hand who would be a good fit for it though. Val Venis was another I really liked but think he was perhaps a bit too attitude era for now.
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Actually, I think Paige would be fantastic with the Stone Cold character and being a woman, she's even less likely to get people ranting about someone 'ripping off' Austin's gimmick. She frequently embodies the "DTA" side of Stone Cold, and I would expect that sooner rather than later Paige will turn on Mandy & Sonya.

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Asuka is more or less already working Goldberg's gimmick. She just works matches better, that's all. I noticed that when Asuka got in the ring with Alexa Bliss, the fans were chanting "Asuka's gonna kill you" so I really can't think of many people better suited to the gimmick, nor stands a better chance of pulling it off.

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I'm assuming this thread is coming from my mention of how Ryback could have gotten over using the old school promo style of whisper, scream, laugh that used to be employed by guys like Savage, Sid, Warrior, Steiner, & The Anvil to varying degrees and levels of success. Lars Sullivan may very well be a prime candidate for that style of promo, and as he's still unproven and unsettled in any gimmick it is an even better fit.

However, I think it could work for Braun Strowman too, and perhaps even push him to yet a higher level of success than he is already enjoying. Though to be fair, I would admit it doesn't QUITE seem like a perfect fit there, but he's good enough I think he could pull it off.

Ryback was just custom made for that style, and I don't know if anyone could pull it off better than Ryback could have.

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I think Fandango's dancer gimmick still has a chance at getting over if they were to allow a little more creative input from Johnny Curtis. The pop culture dancer gimmick has worked twice before, and once so spectacularly well grown men now dress up as the wrestlers gimmick for Halloween.

First you had Ricki Starr, who dressed as a prima ballerina back in the 1950's and 60's and he was a mainstay babyface in those days despite his overwhelmingly gay overtones. 

Then came The Macho Man who dressed as a disco dancer and it helped Randy Savage make it into stardom in the 70's and early 80's before he really made it big and morphed into the "Macho Man" people remember him for today.

Then came the ill-fated Disco Inferno, who, instead of being an evolution of the gimmick was a rippoff sibling gimmick of the Macho Man.

Since then, no one has really used the dancer gimmick to any affect. Fandango got over momentarily by starting those little dance moves, but then Fandango drifted off into obscurity before becoming a part of the Fashion Police/Breezango. 

If he were to go back to being a singles competitor, re-focusing on being the dancer and taking things in a different direction might just help him get to the next level. Curtis is a very funny man, and I still feel like they're just scraping the surface of what he has to offer in that department.

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Another guy who evolved from Ricki Starr was Goldust, this time focusing on the homo-erotic side of the gimmick, then the gimmick recently evolved again with Patrick Clark from the last season of Tough Enough playing the role of the Velveteen Dream. Yet again, that gimmick is getting over.


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One final gimmick I'd like to mention is one that's never really been done well, if at all, and that's the douchey hipster. Both Daniel Bryan and Sami Zayn would be perfect for the role, Sami Zayn now moreso than ever being as he is a heel. Zayn comes out still being obnoxious wearing that that fucking annoying hat, if he were to just wear thick rimmed glasses as a fashion statement, and golfer's pants, with a sweater and talking about how conformist everyone is, and how when he does things that conform to society he is doing it ironically, and how he drives a prius and is vegan so he's better than everyone, the heat he would get would be spectacular.


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Yeah Zayn would be excellent at that, I enjoyed Bryan as the heel preaching his healthy lifestyle and morals, I also enjoyed CM Punk’s heel straight edge gimmick which was a similar kind of character.

I’m actually loving Zayn as a heel how he’s hamming up his former babyface character to the point of being extremely obnoxious. The silly annoying dance moves, the soppy dress sense, it’s all great stuff.

I think when Velveteen Dream makes it to the main roster Golddust could be his manager/mentor.

Goldberg is a tough one to replicate because when they try it’s obvious they are trying to produce the next Goldberg, but I just love the dominant power based style. Ryback didn’t pull it off because despite being a large intimidating looking guy with a strong power game he didn’t bring that same intensity and there was always something a little comedic about him while Goldberg was all business. That’s why I think Ryback would have found his natural home as the genetic freak Steiner-esque character.

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If you look further back you could easily pull of a Ted DiBiase style of gimmick too and that would be a massive heat magnet in the current climate. WWE is also crying out for a Piper/Austin kind of figure too. Closest they got at the moment is Ambrose but i'm not sure if they'd just let him go for it though.

Velveteen has a mix of Goldust and Randy Savage so we'll see how that goes but he's certainly a standout character at the moment.

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The Million Dollar Man gimmick ... well it did so/so when Alberto Del Rio and Ricardo Rodriquez did it. I agree that it could do well again, but I think Vince has that gimmick taken ATM.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

The Million Dollar Man gimmick ... well it did so/so when Alberto Del Rio and Ricardo Rodriquez did it. I agree that it could do well again, but I think Vince has that gimmick taken ATM.

Wasn't quite the same with Bertie doing it, not sure why, it just didn't feel right. Maybe it was because he was pushed down our throats so much at the start...I don't know though.

WWE could also do with investing in the big agile man in the mould of Bam Bam/Bossman again. Haven't really had one of those since Umaga.

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