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Yeah I agree. The NWO gimmick has ran it course. I’ve always said it kinda screwed up the fans view of who to cheer for. Most bad guys get a positive reaction these days and God forbid if someone wins a title , the next night they are on tv the ridiculous chat of “you deserve it” starts whether they actually do or not. Much like Hollywood, WWE seems to be out of fresh ideas much like Hollywood is for movies.
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Much as I was a fan of the NWO it probably is best left as part of history now, few factions are as good second or third time around and WWE already had one attempt at the NWO which was a colossal flop.

At this point I would say WWE are better served to hand out big money deals to Kenny Omega, Cody Rhodes and the Young Bucks and bring the Bullet Club to WWE.
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I understand the sentiment behind not wanting to bring back a dead stable, but I would be all for this, and here's why.
 
The Bullet Club is a direct evolution from the nWo. Since WWE can't get their hands on the Bullet Club copyrights, WWE could and even SHOULD bring the nWo back, but continue with the Bullet Club evolution and storyline and roll with it. Put together AJ Styles, Finn Balor, Gallows & Anderson, Adam Cole, Rodrick Strong, Bobby Fish, and Kyle O'Reilly as the new nWo, just like Fletch suggested.

You could get them all into the ring together after an nWo/Bullet Club/Nexus style attack on an event, and have Balor or Styles cut a promo saying they were once apart of a "club," before joining the big leagues of the WWE, and here in the big leagues, there was also a 'club' and it was from this original club that their previous club evolved. That club, the "OG" Club (this is a reference to on-going storylines going on in NJPW's Bullet Club) was called the nWo, it's been considered a relic of the past, but it's spirit is alive and kicking to this very day.

The nWo has always been an outlier club, usually existing outside of the WWE because it stands for everything the WWE is not, but just as times changes, organizations dies, and the names of certain clubs change, never does the spirit behind a clubs formation die. It is in that same spirit that we [all the guys in the ring] have decided that it is time to reform the club that gave rise the one they used to be a part of.


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They've got the logo which is a good merch seller, you've got the theme song you can bring back which always generates a pop from the crowd, you have possible nostalgic legends to drop in from time to time, (say January, when you have some kind of reunion, or old school raw, or something to commemorate Raw's anniversary and happens every single year) you've go the "too sweet!" hand thing the Kliq brought to nWo but now everyone associates with the Bullet Club, but most importantly, the storyline walks the line between referencing The Bullet Club and NJPW/RoH without ever doing so and re-establishes a group everyone wants to see put together (Balor, Styles, Gallows and Anderson) in a believable way lost of fans want to embrace, that being the anti-WWE wrestling culture.

So you put them together under the nWo banner, and people will buy into this as the solution to the Bullet Club issue, and be ready to eat it up.

You could have a lot of fun stories to tell here. Especially if Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn end up joining the ranks. You can set up internal feuds between Owens and Balor or Styles for control of the stable, you can have Sami Zayn developing a split personality and performing both as Sami Zayn, nWo stalwart member, and El Generico pro-WWE supporter and overall good guy.

You can have 3-4 men on each brand which makes them perfectly manageable on each show, but an overpowered monster at the co-branded PPV events.

I think it could work out quite well if they wanted to.


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Funnily enough, the nWo started as a rip off of a Japanese faction. Bullet Club deriving from it is full circle at its best
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Is that right? I always thought WCW took the angle of the UWFi invasion of NJPW and used that for the story outline for the nWo's invasion of WCW. I didn't think that the nWo itself was patterned after the UWFi. Wasn't UWFi a shoot-style promotion? If I'm remembering correctly and that's true then nWo had virtually nothing in common with UWFi. It was just the storyline that was similar. 
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A Bullet Club/NWO morph would be the way to go. As said the BC is modelled on the NWO taking several traits from the group so to merge themselves into the new NWO would make sense.

Obviously Balor, Styles, Gallows and Anderson all have Bullet Club roots and I think Adam Cole does too doesn’t he? So putting them all together would make sense but for maximum impact I think WWE need to try and get current BC guys like the Young Bucks, Omega and Rhodes.
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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Much as I was a fan of the NWO it probably is best left as part of history now, few factions are as good second or third time around and WWE already had one attempt at the NWO which was a colossal flop.

At this point I would say WWE are better served to hand out big money deals to Kenny Omega, Cody Rhodes and the Young Bucks and bring the Bullet Club to WWE.

I agree I would hate for the NWO to be brought back in any form as it's in the past and the idea of trying to recreate it yet again sucks.

It would be as bad as Fake Diesel and Fake Razor because it would be nothing more than NWO in name.

As you say E are better off trying to bring in Bullet Club because with just the name they will get over, as we know how much Yanks love their guns.
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You guys don't want nWo by the sounds of it, you want New Japan World Order, bringing in half their roster like Omega and the likes.
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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

Much as I was a fan of the NWO it probably is best left as part of history now, few factions are as good second or third time around and WWE already had one attempt at the NWO which was a colossal flop.

At this point I would say WWE are better served to hand out big money deals to Kenny Omega, Cody Rhodes and the Young Bucks and bring the Bullet Club to WWE.

I agree I would hate for the NWO to be brought back in any form as it's in the past and the idea of trying to recreate it yet again sucks.


Here's the thing though. In the past I would have agreed with that statement, but let's face it, Nexus was the nWo. SAME. EXACT. GIMMICK. So why not just call a spade a spade? It's just a waste of a cool name for a stable that actually could have done something different. Again, The Bullet Club IS the nWo minus copyright protection law infringements.


Quote ]It would be as bad as Fake Diesel and Fake Razor because it would be nothing more than NWO in name.

No, because no one would be trying to be Diesel or Razor or Hogan or anyone else. They'd be the same people they've always been.

Quote As you say E are better off trying to bring in Bullet Club because with just the name they will get over, as we know how much Yanks love their guns.
 

Why waste the money on buying a copyright owned by NJPW when you have the original that is JUST as over waiting for you to call NJPW out for stealing an idea they own? Yes that's twisted logic, but it makes for good storytelling on TV and starts a controversy about who is better, and more original, etc., and that's good for wrestling in general.



Originally posted by John The Baptist John The Baptist wrote:

You guys don't want nWo by the sounds of it, you want New Japan World Order, bringing in half their roster like Omega and the likes.
 

Except that none of the guys are Japanese.

nWo stood for the New World Order, I don't have to remind you, I know, but it's important to keep in mind what those 3 words mean. New, not old, and a world order meaning a massive sweeping change in the way things are done.

There is a very large group of people that don't watch WWE but love pro-wrestling, and the nWo stood for something that was in direct opposition to what was normalized. If you get someone like Balor or Styles or whoever it is that's going to be looked at as the leader of the group to say exactly these kinds of things. To say that they're taking up the name of the New World Order, not because they were fans of the people that used to be in it, but because of what the group idealized and that they too have the same ideals and want to accomplish the same goals, only this time they won't make the same mistakes and let history repeat itself, then suddenly you've got people thinking, and talking again.

It's very possible a faction put together like this and declaring their mission statement in this way could, in time, get people arguing about which incarnation of the nWo was better.

This isn't just a rehash of the group where they come out and squash people and take over attacking matches already in progress even when they're not involved, it's not about tearing up the arena, or hijacking the broadcasting table, or even the truck out back, though all of the above could happen, it's about being the spiritual successor to the ideas that went along with the nWo far moreso than being the successor in name.

As soon as fans see that there is a faction of wrestlers that stand opposed to the way Vince does business, (just like CM Punk used to) who fights with the authority because they're stagnant and boring, and not so much because they're evil dictators, the fans will want more, because fans always want something new before it gets old and boring, yet here's the nWo walking that line of being both an old rehash, and something completely new and people will argue THAT point as well, just like we're doing now.

It creates a buzz, and that's what pro-wrestling needs more than anything.
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Literally all the guys you suggested made their name in New Japan.

Where do you think Bullet Club comes from.

You're just rehashing mega old concepts instead of evolving. I get wrestling fans are desperate for Attitude Era 2.0 but throwing out the same storylines as 20 years ago isn't the way to achieve that.
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