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Now it is no longer a matter of too low on the card, not used enough, it is a matter of used too much and too high on the card. Mainly, Sheamus, as I think he is nothing but a mid carder. I actually think Sheamus is and should be a SWAT type Big Bossman. But the sad thing is, WWE only has Cena, they dont have that 2nd guy or even 3rd that HHH was. So Sheamus is able to win the WWE title and have his push. But Sheamus, at best is someone whos a gate keeper to the main event. So in my opinion, Sheamus is misused.

I also think Nexus is miss used, as after their debut, they have become boring. OK we get it, your numbers pwn when it comes to 7 on 1 or 2. But FFS, when is WWE locker room gonna return the favor? Not just that, but the whole thing has been botched from Danielson being released and all. I mean, that isnt even fresh anymore. nWo knockoff with PG stigma makes it even worse.

Gail Kim. The way she is used or should I say not used is morbidly obese... Good job Gail, you not only ruined the TNA KO division by leaving, but you left for a job where your a joke. Hope your happy.
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Swagger, despite winning a World title is being misused.
Samoa Joe is being misused.




Kane is being misused in the opposite sense, being pushed.
Ditto Abyss.


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Oh I forgot TNA. LoL. Well, AJ Styles, Desmond Wolfe, Samoa Joe, Mr. Anderson, Matt Morgan, all being misused. Not used enough or just wrong. AJ is the wrong one to take a step back and give anything to the TV title. That TV title has Matt Morgan's name written ALL over it. That TV should be Matt Morgan's next step to the World title, but what do I know... Hes only the most complete big man in all of wrestling today...
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Originally posted by Trice Trice wrote:

Christian is still being misused Ouch


christian is still being misused while they have toilets at events and arenas
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Originally posted by bigfloridapimp bigfloridapimp wrote:

Now it is no longer a matter of too low on the card, not used enough, it is a matter of used too much and too high on the card. Mainly, Sheamus, as I think he is nothing but a mid carder. I actually think Sheamus is and should be a SWAT type Big Bossman. But the sad thing is, WWE only has Cena, they dont have that 2nd guy or even 3rd that HHH was. So Sheamus is able to win the WWE title and have his push. But Sheamus, at best is someone whos a gate keeper to the main event. So in my opinion, Sheamus is misused.


I would agree with you; but not necessarily about Sheamus. A couple of points could be raised. Number one; yes, I agree with you that there are too many main eventers. WWE is so quick to elevate someone to a World Title (not just the main event, but an actual World Title). The worst example of this is Jack Swagger; I see him as being the midcarder that you do Sheamus. Ditto with Edge. CM Punk is talented, but I'll always say he won a World Title too soon. Rey Mysterio is arguably borderline World Title material at best. I'm sure someone can make a case for some of these; but the bottom line is that WWE no longer has the patience to slowly elevate someone up the ladder the right way like they did with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels (but I'll say a Brock Lesnar or Undertaker type monster is fine for a quick World Title win); and their standards for who qualifies as being a World Champion have no doubt been lowered. Was Sheamus a qualified candidate for a Lesnar type monster push to the top? At first I thought no; but after seeing him as Champion he seems legit and I'm content. He's no Lesnar; but he's no Adam Bomb neither. It can be made to look like he can kick ass. But either way, what is supposed to be a hard achieved pinnacle to a career is now a lot more easily attained; and the end result of WWE's actions is a roster where over half of the people have been World Champions. You are right, the top is too big and even with two belts people more often then not have nowhere to go but down. Thus one can make the case that the entire main event is misused.

Number two, you say that WWE only has Cena and not that 2nd or 3rd guy; and that that allows Sheamus to keep the belt. Well, I see this as being one more argument against the brand extension; because if the WWE wasn't insistent on keeping imaginary lines that don't exist than the main eventers like Punk, Mysterio, Big Show, and Kane could be formidable challengers to The Celtic Warrior, thus keeping more guys who really should be midcarders away from the World Title, thus not misusing the entire main event division, including by its mere size.

As far as people who are misused in the sense of being underpushed and underutilized; I can think of three in today's WWE. I think some may disagree with one maybe two.

The Great Khali

I know that many here hate him and say he can't wrestle. But even if you don't want him in prominent matches nor in the World Title picture (which I actually think he should be); I don't see why anyone would want him to be the clown that he is. The dude is 7 feet tall and big and strong as Hell. He could quite easily be the most feared and menacing superstar ever. He should be pulverizing people as he did when he first came in; not dancing around and kissing ladies, and not going down to moves like Dolph Ziggler's Sleeper. I've never seen anyone so misused in my life.

William Regal

I think most everyone would agree that the man has remarkable talent. But being booked to team with Vladimir Koslov or Zach Ryder in quick squash matches does give him a chance to show what he has; and he really hasn't been used right for most of his WWF/E career. To attempt to imitate Regal's speech patters, why in bloody Hell can't he be a serious contender for the U.S. Title? Or move to Smackdown and once again focus in the Intercontinental Title. He could have great matches with the likes of Kofi Kingston, R Truth, Drew McIntyre, Jack Swagger (who should be in that division), or Dolph Ziggler that would be performances fit for Her Majesty the Queen; but instead he is besmirched by either carrying King Booker's robe when Booker was there, managing a stable of jesters, or jobbing to peasants not worthy to pour him tea; and his skills are hardly ever showcased. The best Regal was used in the past ten years was when he was a legit contender for Christian's ECW World Title.

Goldust

I consider Goldust to be a legend; and he is one of the most entertaining people ever, and I do mean ever. He can surely put on a good show and captivate audiences at the drop of a dime (or a drop of gold dust); and he still has the skills to put on a very good wrestling performance. His ECW feud with Sheamus last year proved that. I don't mind Goldust teaming with Yoshi Tatsu as I like Tatsu; but I do mind weeks passing by with him not even in a match. The Golden One can do more then they've had him do; and right now he is doing nothing. Not that I want to overuse the pun; but gold is just sitting there and WWE is not mining it. He is being misused.


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I hate the misuse of Amazing Red.
Such talent I don't get why he isn't on Impact most weeks.
 
John cena - way overused, people might know I despise him. The way he is like the face of WWE and he honestly is a pretty crap wrestler.
 
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Originally posted by sXeLozRKO sXeLozRKO wrote:

I hate the misuse of Amazing Red.
Such talent I don't get why he isn't on Impact most weeks.
 

He can't talk, although I suppose if they had more time they could put him in more matches which would allow his actions to speak for him. Hard to get fully behind a silent wrestler though.
Plus, he's injury prone. His insane ability comes at the price that he doesn't have to do too many moves before his knees or shoulders start to hurt that little bit too much. He's already picked up a couple of knocks since returning.
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Kon my man, WWE is not impatient, they are frantic and scrambling. Austin and Rock, they pretty much carried WWE for a long time, WWE had built guys like Eddie, Benoit, Angle, Lesnar to the main event. Rock left, Austin left, Lesnar left, Eddie wasnt that over as champ so WWE, what are they to do? Instead of giving Booker the WWE title push, WHO GOT IT? Thats right JB fuckin L. Bitch of bitches. 9 months reign, WOW. and Tisk.

WWE didnt push anyone but Cena and Batista really. Orton really only got the title because, as you once said to me WWE didnt want Lesnar to be that guy anymore. And now that guys like HBK are retired, HHH always getting hurt, Taker being old, all the old guys are leaving or are not around enough, WWE has no one they built to a main event guy. So what did WWE do recently, which has been mistaken as pushing young guys, something I and other IWC members have been ranting about all these years; They gave the props to guys who were not ready for them, OOPS I meant the world titles, sorry, I get confused sometimes, I mean the world titles are used in a way that you see it as a prop, I slip sometimes...
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Originally posted by bigfloridapimp bigfloridapimp wrote:

Orton really only got the title because, as you once said to me WWE didnt want Lesnar to be that guy anymore.



Explain.

Orton won his first World title in August 2004 at Summerslam.
Lesnar left WWE the day after Wrestlemania 20, in March/April that year.
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Originally posted by John The Baptist John The Baptist wrote:

Originally posted by bigfloridapimp bigfloridapimp wrote:

Orton really only got the title because, as you once said to me WWE didnt want Lesnar to be that guy anymore.



Explain.

Orton won his first World title in August 2004 at Summerslam.
Lesnar left WWE the day after Wrestlemania 20, in March/April that year.


Kondor can explain it better. But I think WWE was pissed at lesnar for how he left, so they quickly gave Orton the title so that Lesnar would no longer be the youngest world champ anymore.
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