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Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

I don’t like the term ‘WOKEN’ doesn’t make sense shouldn’t it be AWOKEN?


That's true. No problem with E changing the word from broken so it's a slightly changed gimmick for their own company. Just the wording could be better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeJJFzBwyWQ

Looks like he will be fueding with Bray after Raw, but I would prefer them together.

Having them on the same page with their weird gimmicks would make for a very entertaining duo.


I agree I think the pair of them with their bizarre promos could provide some great entertainment. I think the only problem is WWE see Wyatt as more of a dark demonic character in The Undertaker mold, while Hardy is more weird and wacky and not really designed to be taken too seriously.

I think perhaps a loose alliance where they occasionally work together and have a few shared segments could be ok though. I’ve said for a while Bray needs to turn face and I assume given how over the Broken/Woken character is Matt will definitely be working babyface.

The Woken name is dumb though, I get WWE want to put their own spin on it and perhaps trademark it but come on try a bit harder.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rico Len Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01/December/2017 at 12:55
So with the rumors of the legal battle coming to an end, Hardy seems pretty woke huh? That is what we are supposed to get behind? Whatever. I guess I don't really care what they call it. At least WWE seems to be making some positive changes.

This summer was probably the worst I've ever seen. My WWE Network subscription lapses tomorrow (the 2nd), and I no longer even try to watch Raw or SmackDown the night of anymore. I've even skipped a ppv or two this year.

This week I watched only a couple of segments in their entirety on Hulu, and most of them were the women's division stuff because of the 2 new factions.

The Woke Matt Hardy would at least be something I'd watch a time or two and give it a chance. More than I can say for most things going on today.
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I would expect said awakening to come over a couple more weeks with matches against Wyatt, leading to something on the Rumble preshow together or even Hardy and Wyatt having an encounter in the actual rumble match. Wyatt gets a couple of wins on TV, which will be a good change, Hardy gets a big Rumble moment and then yeah they probably start teaming for a bit. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote admin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/December/2017 at 22:17
Quote Justin Barrasso of Sports Illustrated reports that Vince McMahon is a big proponent of Matt Hardy’s “Woken” character, which made its debut this past Monday on RAW. It was noted by one source who told Barrasso that McMahon is such a believer in Hardy’s passion for the character that Hardy will be allowed a creative license over it, with McMahon seeing opportunity in the already established character.

It should be noted that the WWE Chairman does not view Hardy as a top star.

Ed Nordholm, President of Anthem Wrestling which owns Impact Wrestling, still controls the rights to the “Broken Universe” which Matt created despite the fact that the Hardys believe they have ownership of it.

There’s still a chance that Hardy will eventually work out a deal with Anthem for the rights to the “Broken” character, though the two sides are not currently talking. It was also noted that Jeff Jarrett viewed Matt Hardy as more of a background act during their time with Impact, and felt Jeff Hardy was the real star of the Hardys.

With all of that said, it was noted that those factors are motivating Matt to prove that he can be a top star at the WWE level.

He's bound to have more creative control than most, but Vince will still say no to plenty of his ideas.
 
Creative have enough work to do on shows, so it makes sense to let him work on his own creation instead of trying to get involved in something they know nothing about.
 
Matt deserves his push. He's passionate about the business and put so much work into his character to get it over and be noticed by management. Lots of whingy bastards on the roster that think they aren't pushed as much as they should be, should take note.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ihatethatmonkee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/December/2017 at 07:21
he's always suffered to Jeff as Jeff is obviously more of the daredevil highflyer of the two, but Matt has shown on more than one occasion that he not only has the ability to be a top star, he has the brain to constantly find ways to get his own character over.

he did it with V1, the whole Edge and Matt feud was only a bust because he didn't stick up for himself more, and while he certainly is never going to be a WWE/Universal Champion guy, he could and should become a legendary IC and US title guy. hell, if anyone is going to beat HTM's IC record, i'd have it be Hardy.

I mean really. for all the shit we gave him on this forum when he was doing everything he could to get WWE to fire him a few years back, he actually had a massive swell of support! he has the ability to make fans care about him, whether he's being a victim or a dick.

Anthem are being cunts. if Hardy's contract stated he had creative control, then he and Jeff own the Broken gimmick, Anthem just own the footage related to it that came with the company library, but who cares now WWE have finally found a way around it with the Woken character, which actually works better considering how prevalent conspiracy theories and social justice have gotten in the modern world, both of which use Woken to describe someone who finally sees "the truth".

literally, the only time I can recall Hardy failing with a character in WWE was the awful WWECW title run.

but like I say, who cares? HTM is still a legend in WWE and he never had to be a top guy in the company, and there are so many midcard level gimmicks that people remember fondly and that are always going to have had far more of an impact on the company that a vast majority of guys who did make it to the very top.

Matt has certainly had to work a lot harder than Jeff, but they are one of the few tag teams that can legitimately say both members have had significant solo success.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rico Len Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/December/2017 at 17:07
Good for Matt. Personally I've never really seen much to Jeff. He has the better look, but I don't care for his personality much, nor any gimmick of his I've seen. He seems to lack the charisma Matt has, despite him calling himself the 'enigmatic charisma'. Matt has had far more personality, and while he doesn't have the look of Jeff, I'm hoping that will finally not count against him.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fletch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/December/2017 at 17:40
It’s a bit late in the day I think and I’m not sure Matt is even working a full schedule, but the Woken/Broken gimmick is hugely over and should be a merchandise goldmine for WWE.

As for Jeff being the more successful yes that’s true, Jeff was never the greatest promo guy but his daredevil ring style and rock star look and his natural charisma just got him over at a headlining level, it took a while though he paid his dues for years tag-teaming and in the mid-card. I still think his TNA heel character was the best version we’ve seen of Jeff Hardy.

Matt I think with this gimmick can be successful in the upper mid-card but I think a main event spot might be just out of reach.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ihatethatmonkee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/December/2017 at 11:28
as I've said, and as Vince has seemingly made clear, no one should expect Matt to be a main event calibre guy in WWE.

the news here is quite simply that Vince knows that Matt can deliver, and just think about that for a second. this is the guy who got fired for airing his personal life out for all to see. this is the guy who made himself into such an arsehole to get fired, that WWE decided they simply couldn't just let him sit out the rest of his contract like they would have done with other talent.

he has been a thorn in the side of WWE, and Vince, for more times than anyone can really count, but Vince knows there is something there to him that makes him trust him. not 100%, which leads me to believe that while Vince may not watch Impact, he is kept updated on what happens, and knows that giving Matt 100% creative control would be a hotshotted clusterfuck, but enough for Matt to be able to drive the story forward without it jumping the shark.

it doesn't need Matt to have main event status for that.
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