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    Posted: 10/January/2008 at 15:18

Quote Hi JR,
Whatever happened to having great male managers like Bobby Heenan. I really think a lot of young wrestlers would benefit by being with them. When Flair does lose a match, I hope he becomes a permanent manager, like he was for evolution. Anyways, I hope Heenan gets better, he will certainly be in my thoughts and prayers. I’m just glad i was able to see him in my lifetime at the Hall of Fame at WM22 weekend. I will never forget the April fools day joke he played on everyone, still makes me laugh to this day when I think about it.

The lack of great managers is in direct correlation to the lack of great wrestlers but perhaps even more so. Superstars evolved and were developed quicker and better when they could learn in a variety of territories and not solely in a developmental system. Plus, talents like Bobby Heenan only come a long once in a lifetime. I find it hard to see the fans booing Ric Flair the manager, just as they don’t want to boo Ric Flair the wrestler. Nonetheless there are many valuable roles for Ric when his wrestler days are over.

What's happened to all the great managers? That's a question we all seem to ask at some point or another. Look at how much fans were into Estrada when he got called up. We loved the fact a decent manager was on the roster. Where is the next Bobby Hennan? Where is the female Miss Elizabeth? There's no recent managers that look likely to get in the hall of fame anytime. Matt Striker is a manager type, but not a proper manager with him wrestling now and against. We need a modern day Mr Fuji.

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I have to agree Matt Striker has been a good fit as the manager of Big Daddy V and Mark Henry.  Both wrestlers lack a lot of personality, and having a weasel in their corner helps to generate heat from the crowd.  But Striker is no Heenan.

 

There three main reasons for the decline of managers today:

First, there is an increased emphasis on wrestlers developing their mic skills.  Many managers were used as mouthpieces for wrestlers that were horrible on the mic.  Some just couldn’t remember their lines well enough to cut a promo; some had accents that made them difficult to be understood.  Andre the Giant’s French accent was nearly indecipherable by some, send in Bobby Heenan and problem solved.

 

Second, many wrestlers are also unwilling to share the spotlight; this can also be seen in the lack of great tag teams.  Many wrestlers know that their time on top is limited and the crowds can be fickle.  And given the way the Rock slide his way into movies, many other wrestlers are hoping to gain that attention that only comes to a singles wrestler and launch their career into other fields.  How many times did Jimmy Hart get his guys the win thanks to his megaphone?  Or Jim Cornette with the tennis racket?  Or Paul E. Dangerously with his gigantic old school cell phone?  Well, most of the guys today aren’t willing to be bailed out by their manager.

 

Third reason, many companies are just too cheap to pay someone that isn’t getting in the ring.  Honestly, why did so many wrestlers use their real-life girlfriends as managers?  Many of these girlfriends simply wanted to keep better tabs on their men.  Many wrestlers fall to the varied temptations on the road.  Ring rats at every stop, drugs and alcohol… there are plenty of has-beens that testify to the amount of money they wasted on any combination of the three.  But most companies aren’t willing to pay someone to baby sit the talent.

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Quote Hi JR, Thanks for personalizing the autograph on my cookbook. Back in the 80’s guys like Bobby Heenan, Gary Hart, and Slick added a lot to TV broadcasts in their roles as managers and that seems to be missing today. I know you have stated on your past blogs that there is a lack of talent in the manager ranks right now so I was wonderig if you thought the WWE would ever consider doing a talent search for the "next great manager" similar to what they have done for the divas and wrestlers over the years?

I assume that is possible but they also might find some future managers from their crop of wrestlers currently training in Florida as more of those prospects will not make it as wrestlers than will.

I miss the use of a wrestling manager these days. The greater talkers can work wonders for getting someone more over. Nobody can say that Big Daddy V would be over as much as he is, if he didn't have Matt Striker with him. I feel Teddy Long is wasted just wheeling Vickie Guerrero out. If he's not getting his old role back, he should become an heel manager. Remember when he managed Rodney Mack? Mack was dreadful, but Long did wonders to make him not seem as bad as he was.

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Love the old fashioned managers there should be more Davari was a good manager but was just to young tp be taken seriously!
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Quote J.R, I was watching Vladamir Kozlov tonight on Smackdown and truly believe if he had been in WWE during the 80's he would've had a manager so that being said what 80's manager would have fit him the best my two picks are Freddie Blassie and Skandor Akbar. Dan I have said many times that wrestlers like Kozlov could use a manager and he isn't the only one. what about Umaga? Dear old Freddie would have been awesome but so would Heenan, Cornette, or Heyman. Skandor Akbar was one of the most underrated managers ever as he had no fear, was a genuinely tough man, and was a reliable, trustworthy pro who I have great admiration and respect for. Too bad he's a Texas Longhorn fan.

* What about Umaga? Well he had such a great manager that he got over more than the wrestler did simply by talking.

* Umaga hasn't been the same without a mouthpiece and Kozlov could definately benefit from one.

* The Great Khali has one and him and Ranjin work well together as both heels and babyfaces.

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I miss the olds days when managers where a very good thing for heels. They would help them cheat, get heat and help out the ones that were awful on the mic. Also with the likes of Umaga it made sense that there was only one man who could control him, that made him feel a lot more dangerous and to a sense more realistic.
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We definitely need managers in the WWE again. Especially if that wrestler is good in the ring, but has no charisma. Guys like Mark Henry, Great Khali, and others that are boring need that mouthpiece. Now, I understand the two dudes I mentioned have managers, I was just using them for an example.
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From Jim Ross Website...........

Quote Hi J.R, My question relates to Managers in their various forms throughout the time i have been watching wrestling (primarily WWE content to be fair). Whenever i catch some of the events dating back to the early 90's and 80's etc i am always reminded of just how much a good Manager could add to a guys interviews. It is no secret that sometimes a wrestler can have all the in ring skills in the world, but be lacking in the mic skills department. I agree with some of your previous comments regarding the time not being given to the guys now to develop their own 'voice' so to speak- but i still believe that some people just lack that particular element of the idea skill set you would want from a wrestler. Even the great Andre the Giant benefited hugely from having someone as eloquent as Bobby the Brain Heenan there to sell whatever feud he was involved in at the time. Do you feel it has been a conscious attempt to move away from Managers in the business, or is there just a general lack of qualified candidates coming forward for the positions. Thanks for taking the time to read my question.

Firstly, this email is an example of one that is too long. Secondly, I don't think moving away from managers is a conscious decision but that's just my opinion. If decision makers feel that wrestling managers are too old school then that automatically puts the managers on the endangered species list. I do think the lack of managers is consistent with the lack of major, main event level, young wrestlers and speaks to the businesses lack of quality depth.

* I don't agree that there's a lack of managers out there. It's just a question of looking for them in the right places.

* There's lots of midcard talent that would benefit from a manager to get over and are not as high as they should be without one.

* I'd like WWE to scout more worldwide and do more to try and bring in a good handful of mouth pieces.

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To JR: Ever heard of Larry fuckin' Sweeney? Jim Mitchell? (or is it James Mitchell?)... Theres a lot of good managers out on the independant circuit and they had one with Armando Estrada, he should have been left with Umaga and never dropped from managing him.


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From Jim Ross Website...........

Jr, quick question. How can you and the WWE think that male managers are outdated? Tony Atlas has been doing a wonderful job with Mark Henry. And when Armando Estrada was with Umaga, it was pure gold, fans ate it up. Seeing 2 recent success stories, why not have male managers around sporadically? I know you say that ship has sailed and all, but to me and many others, we don't see how it couldn't still work.

I never said that managers were outdated. I like managers. Managers are simply not in vogue right now. Don't blame me.

* It's a shame now that they haven't bothered to use Tony Atlas on Raw during the Mark Henry babyface turn.

* Estrada is one that I would welcome back straight away. Just as long as I never had to see him wrestle again.

* If I was on creative it would be high priority for me to look for some talkers who could help green wrestlers by being a mouthpiece.

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