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Pac-Man: I agree, the potshots comment was probably misguided. I was not online when all of this happened, and when I made that comment I was only basing it off of what I have gathered from this topic and other people's posts. When I said that the lines were drawn during the Where is Everyone topic, I said it because that was the first experience of the politics of this forum. I haven't been a member here for too long, and I wasn't around when all of this first began. So I apologize for being off the mark a bit, and at 3 in the morning while I have the flu, it is a wonder that I was even coherent in my post Ouch.
 
By the way, when I said that he has promised to try to improve his post quality and for give and forget, blah blah blah, I meant L-Shizzel, not WWWEFan.
 
And thank you all for understanding my post and thank you for the compliments/constructive criticism of it, because I am a noob here and it gives me more confidence when good posters like all of you encourage me. That's oneof the many reasons I love this site Big smile.
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Originally posted by Pac-Man Pac-Man wrote:

Originally posted by fletch fletch wrote:

Finally got near my pc for the first time since Monday so can give my 2 cents on this at last.....

Okay. The following breakdown reply is taking into account that you're trying to get in your two cents, but also presuming that you've read all that's in this thread in order to fully know what you're saying. (If you've missed anything I bring up in here, correct me.)

I dont have the time or patience to read every post here from start to finish but I read several and browsed through the rest so its not like I just gave my opinions without having a clue about the discussion going on.

Originally posted by fletch fletch wrote:

First of all have to point out the irony that Jizzel has once again done some of his most in depth ever posts in this thread, the point here is that with posting its all about the impression you make. Shiz's wrestling posts have always lacked substance and to be brutally honest, are posts that many of us probably skip over, so the fact that the only posts he does that seem to contain any real effort are ones where hes whining about something, its no real surprise he has gained a reputation as a whinger. I also remember someone from his previous forum saying Shiz quit or was booted out because he constantly moaned.

He admits in here that his wrestling posts have not been up to par compared to the rest of us, he's given reason for this by stating that he feels like he's just catching up compared to the rest of us, and he's already stated at least twice in the last that he will try to improve on that front. I would hope that you've at least paid some mind to that, even if only to hold his feet to the fire about it.
 
Yes I read his comments and have taken that on board. I would hope my criticism is seen as constructive by him. I was simply speaking my mind on the matter like always. I dont really see the playing catch up excuse as being valid because several members on here could say that yet still make decent contributions in the wrestling sections. Im a firm believer in if you have nothing worthwhile to say then just say nothing.
Originally posted by fletch fletch wrote:

The car jokes have fizzled out and even if they hadn't I dont think Shiz has cause for complaint, fact is if a couple of the longest posts you ever make on a forum state a claim that you once had sex under a car, and another says that you think having sex with a girl thats a lousy lay will lead to group sex requests from her friends, then you have to expect some ribbing. If someone down my way made comments like that in the real world they would be subject to a lifetime of piss taking.

Considering how Raven says the car jokes are a past issue, and how shiz has said in the previous page that he'll try to complain less, the fact that you're still trying to outright justify them today kinda seems counterproductive, doesn't it?

Perhaps but I was just stating the point that if someone repeatedly whines about jokes at their expense and continues to make ridiculous comments then they can only expect further ribbing about it, its human nature, at least it is where I come from.

Originally posted by fletch fletch wrote:

But enough about all that, it doesnt excuse the fact that what JTB said in his PM was out of order, wishing someone dead is way to harsh and can definitely be classed as harrassment. The week long suspension was a fair call from Pac.
 
I dont think the Granny porn can be called a bannable offense, a bit sick sure but can still be classed as a joke none the less.

When a guy's openly vowing to troll folks out of the forum, and his posts for a month have degenerated into "I hate everybody" material (as I'm not the first one who's noted), I think his reasons for sending the granny porn can be analyzed enough that it isn't to be classed as just a joke. But, you're right. I didn't suspend him off that alone, but rather off his complete disregard for my telling him to stop and the fact that he'd started trolling shiz in PMs even just before that. So, really, three strikes were reached enough that I felt the need to make that call. And I'll thank you for acknowledging that it wasn't just some improper burial I did there.

Agree on all counts and glad to see the porn wasnt a key factor in the banning, the trolling and 3 strikes argument is valid in my opinion and as I stated - the temporary ban was definitely a sound call by yourself.


 
Originally posted by fletch fletch wrote:

Im glad JTB has been re-instated, he is one of the best and most active members we have and would be a big loss to the place.

Let's hope he mellows out a bit this week before he comes back so we won't have to worry about what a big loss he would be to this place (and even that's subjective, really, especially if it does get to where I have to ban him).

Yeah I hope so to, but this situation could have a positive outcome - JTB goes back to making his trademark funny posts and regular decent contributions in the wrestling sections, while Shiz, off the back of this whole situation, makes more effort with his wrestling posts.


 
 
Originally posted by L-shizzel L-shizzel wrote:

Originally posted by fletch fletch wrote:

Finally got near my pc for the first time since Monday so can give my 2 cents on this at last.....
 
First of all have to point out the irony that Jizzel has once again done some of his most in depth ever posts in this thread, the point here is that with posting its all about the impression you make. Shiz's wrestling posts have always lacked substance and to be brutally honest, are posts that many of us probably skip over, so the fact that the only posts he does that seem to contain any real effort are ones where hes whining about something, its no real surprise he has gained a reputation as a whinger. I also remember someone from his previous forum saying Shiz quit or was booted out because he constantly moaned.
The car jokes have fizzled out and even if they hadn't I dont think Shiz has cause for complaint, fact is if a couple of the longest posts you ever make on a forum state a claim that you once had sex under a car, and another says that you think having sex with a girl thats a lousy lay will lead to group sex requests from her friends, then you have to expect some ribbing. If someone down my way made comments like that in the real world they would be subject to a lifetime of piss taking.
 
But enough about all that, it doesnt excuse the fact that what JTB said in his PM was out of order, wishing someone dead is way to harsh and can definitely be classed as harrassment. The week long suspension was a fair call from Pac.
 
I dont think the Granny porn can be called a bannable offense, a bit sick sure but can still be classed as a joke none the less.
 
Im glad JTB has been re-instated, he is one of the best and most active members we have and would be a big loss to the place.
 
If you have read some previous post you pompous fool, you would have realised that I have said I am going to stop.
 
I did read your previous posts and if you stop the whining and devote your time on here to making wrestling posts of substance then fair play to you and good to see you've taken constructive criticism on board. I was just saying what I think which is what I always do. I would advise you to not take stuff to heart so much, brings up the done to death dont take the internet so seriously argument again, why do you care so much what I or anyone else online thinks of you?
 
Bringing up my past expierences in Wrestlingrevealed I left there because I couldn't make one single post without being told how much of a loser  I am or to shut up and I √©nded up getting my self purposely banned, if you don't believe me ask tragon.
 
I dont know what really went on there and to be honest I dont care. All I know is someone from that forum came on here and said you were banned for being a whiner.
 
By the way I never said lousy lay will leave to group sex I am certain someone has edited that post.
 
The only people with the power to do that would be Pac, Admin or Joe, unless you've given your account details to another member. I seriously doubt any of them would do that so why dont you just man up for once and admit to what you said. I would actually respect you more for admitting you said it rather than stating something ridiculous like ''someone must have edited my post''.
 
 


Edited by fletch - 14/January/2011 at 10:29
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I honestly do not recall typing that and as for your respect I neither care for it nor need it whether you respect me or not is entirely up to you anyway this is the last I will say about this because this arguement is getting everyone nowhere
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mr Member Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17/January/2011 at 23:40
OK, so, is JTB gone or not?
 
If he is, close this thread.
 
If he isn't, close this thread.
 
Nothing is coming out of people writing in this thread. If you like JTB, say so and wish him well.
 
If you don't, say so and that's all.
 
I don't see a need for this thread to continue, admin.
BECAUSE I'M THE MEMBER...AND I'M.....AWESOOOOOOME!!



Vintage Mr. Member, right there!
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Dude's reinstated as of now. (Look on page 4 for why.)
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Oh good now he can start TUPardy. Tongue

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Back.

btw could I keep that 'Officially Released' user title? Always wanted one.


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Originally posted by John The Baptist John The Baptist wrote:

Back.

btw could I keep that 'Officially Released' user title? Always wanted one.


WELCOME BACK!


Your title should be 'Officially Awesum'

just sayin.... I sowry for thinking you were Binbum. Big smile I shoulda known you wouldnt have taken the innanet THAT srsly
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kondor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28/January/2014 at 08:17
After re-reading this thread, I miss the way TUP used to be with the people it used to have; even the arguments, even the arguments about arguments. I'm still mesmerized Raven (and Pac) actually thought JTB was the "PenisWrestlingFan" sockpuppet. 

Shizzle needs to come back by the way; as does Maria. 

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It has its good and bad points. I think our batch of posters are better overall in terms of logically disputing a point.
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