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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tom Colohue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19/July/2018 at 09:03
Originally posted by Baz Baz wrote:

Are we not counting Mark Henry and Booker-T? Sure not WWE Champions but they held a World Title.

We're not. The World Heavyweight Title was always secondary to the WWE title.

Originally posted by L-shizzel L-shizzel wrote:

Hogan is back in the good graces until he pissed off Vince again.

Him being welcomed back is fine if the black wrestlers have an issue with it they can voice their opinion and leave and find work elsewhere or they can understand that what happened has happened and move on.

He's not the first former wrestler to have said racist comments he won't be the last .

I just want to be clear what you're saying here. You're saying that if black people don't want to work with someone who is clearly prejudiced against them they should leave. Otherwise they should just get over it?
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I'm saying that in any job you have to work with people you don't like it's also hypricotal that they'd have an issue with Hogan and not With working for Vince who's had his own share of racist remarks

Or for Michael Hayes or even Ric flair they've all made racist remarks in the past why is it ok for them to be around but not Hogan
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so You’re saying you’ve never said anything in a private conversation you didn’t want to say in public ? It doesn’t have to be a racial slur it could be anything. I do find it hard to believe but I won’t call you a liar. People have private conversations just for that reason they are private. If you or anyone else thinks that we will live in a perfect world one day , wake up now , we won’t . If everyone believed the same thing then individually is gone. Right or wrong it’s gone. I wish people would get off the whole black/white deal. There is good in both and there is bad in both. You think black people go along with everything white people say ? Sure don’t hear about it unless is racial. Black domination in sports is crazy and not to mention the United States had a black president , the highest seat in the nation. Like Colin in the NFL , everyone wants to say it’s due to his trouble making and protests why he isn’t with a team. No one seems to remember how bad he sucked and what the 49ers record was his last 2 years , nah couldn’t be that. Let the race thing go , enjoy wrestling for what it is , entertaining, it’s not real by the way matches are predetermined. The sooner people stop pointing a finger because someone or something didn’t line up with what they think or believe the better off we will all be.
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Originally posted by L-shizzel L-shizzel wrote:

I'm saying that in any job you have to work with people you don't like it's also hypricotal that they'd have an issue with Hogan and not With working for Vince who's had his own share of racist remarks

Or for Michael Hayes or even Ric flair they've all made racist remarks in the past why is it ok for them to be around but not Hogan

I understand your position a lot better now, thanks.

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so You’re saying you’ve never said anything in a private conversation you didn’t want to say in public ? It doesn’t have to be a racial slur it could be anything. I do find it hard to believe but I won’t call you a liar. People have private conversations just for that reason they are private. If you or anyone else thinks that we will live in a perfect world one day , wake up now , we won’t . If everyone believed the same thing then individually is gone. Right or wrong it’s gone. I wish people would get off the whole black/white deal. There is good in both and there is bad in both. You think black people go along with everything white people say ? Sure don’t hear about it unless is racial. Black domination in sports is crazy and not to mention the United States had a black president , the highest seat in the nation. Like Colin in the NFL , everyone wants to say it’s due to his trouble making and protests why he isn’t with a team. No one seems to remember how bad he sucked and what the 49ers record was his last 2 years , nah couldn’t be that. Let the race thing go , enjoy wrestling for what it is , entertaining, it’s not real by the way matches are predetermined. The sooner people stop pointing a finger because someone or something didn’t line up with what they think or believe the better off we will all be.

I completely lost track of the point you're trying to make here. 

There's a difference between saying something privately that you wouldn't say in public and revealing a clear racist and homophobic prejudice.

Also, if I abuse someone, or a whole community, those people should never be told to get over it because I didn't say it to their face.


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My point - stop making everything a race issue and enjoy wrestling for what it is , entertainment. Clear enough ?

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Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

Hogan didn't use racial slurs against one person; he racially abused an entire race of people.

Wait what? Did we listen to the same tape? When did he say anything about a group of people, and not just about the guy his daughter was dating, that he disapproved of?


Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

Thank you, Rico.

The company have forgiven. Nobody else has to.

I see people all over Twitter telling me I'm a liar if I say I've never used racial slurs in private. Guess what, I've never used racial slurs in private or the homophobic ones that Hogan is also known to have used.

He's not sorry. He's sorry he was caught. There's a difference.
 

He's sorry his private life hurt other people. That's a blurring of the lines and still 100% true.

I've heard people say that you're still wrong if you think something bad. I don't buy that even in the littlest amount. If a person thinks of a million and one bad things in his head and acts on none, is he REALLY worse than the guy that thinks of one bad thing in his whole life and acts upon it?

No.

In fact I'd go so far to say that the guy that thinks of a million and one bad things and never acts on them is the perfect example of what being a good, decent human being is all amount. Whereas the guy that acted on his one bad thought is simply naïve but doesn't give a shit about others.

Hogan is definitely naïve. He's proven that time and time again over the years, but he cares about others and isn't a hostile or hurtful man. He's a goof, not without fault, but he tries to do the right thing. He's not a smart man, he's quite simple, but he is also a people pleaser and wants to make others around him happy. 

I have yet to ever see any indication from him that he's ever been antagonistic, or willfully/knowingly hurtful to others in any way. He says stupid shit, people use it to make him look even worse than he makes himself out to be, and it makes sheep hate him, but when you really actually look at it, he's a good guy.


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Originally posted by Tom Colohue Tom Colohue wrote:

He's not sorry. He's sorry he was caught. There's a difference.
 
That's my opinion too and Titus has said the same.......
 
Quote Titus O’Neil posted the following statement regarding Hulk Hogan’s reinstatement into the WWE Hall of Fame:

To my gracious fans and the WWE Universe.

The reports and rumors concerning my boycotting “Extreme Rules” in Pittsburgh is false and inaccurate. I was not scheduled to attend or be a participant in the “Extreme Rules” match/production and was otherwise not booked for the show.

The talent present in Pittsburgh, which I was a part of, was asked to attend a mandatory meeting in which Mr. Terry Bollea addressed everyone and informed the same that he would be reinstated into the WWE Hall of Fame. At no point during, after or otherwise did I make any scene concerning Mr. Bollea’s communication to the talent. In addition, let it be known that I did not refuse to shake Mr. Bollea’s hand; we did not have any type of one-on-one interaction whatsoever that would or did necessitate any exchange between us individually.

As to the reinstatement of Mr. Bollea, I can only communicate that I am a proponent of second and even third chances for individuals that show true remorse, acknowledgment of wrongdoing, fulfill their punishment, if applicable, and otherwise put forth sincere efforts to correct the issues.

Unfortunately, I must echo the sentiment and dissatisfaction expressed by many of my fellow contemporaries concerning Mr. Bollea’s apology and its lack of true contrition, remorse and a desire to change. Mr. Bollea’s apology “that he didn’t know he was being recorded” is not remorse for the hateful and violent utterances he made which reprise language that has caused violence against blacks and minorities for centuries. I stand firm in my position that Mr. Bollea is entitled to reinstatement; he was and is a role model, hero and icon to countless people. I hope that Mr. Bollea’s missteps in communicating to the WWE talent in Pittsburgh are not repeated to his fans and I expect that he shall pursue an agenda that clearly communicates to all third parties that his language was inappropriate, wrong and should not be tolerated in a civilized and inclusive society.

As the father of two young black men, I have spent their entire life and the majority of my adult life with a singular focus; being a role model for my children and young black boys and girls. I take tremendous pride in my charity work and the community outreach programs that I have fostered via the platform I have been given. I teach my sons love and tolerance for everybody, but I also teach them to operate in truth and respect.

I hope this clears up any confusion. I, like New Day, will continue to use my platform to positively affect, entertain, embrace, celebrate and love people from all backgrounds both inside and outside of the WWE Universe.

Sincerely,

Thaddeus Bullard aka Titus O’Neil

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— Titus O’Neil (@TitusONeilWWE) July 18, 2018

 
I don't get the big clamour for him to return as he's past it and guys who can go in the ring should be the focus.
 
He's not owed a thing off E. Both sides have done excellent over the decades because of eachother.
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