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Are they turning (or at least teasing) Balor Heel?

His attack on Seth last week after their match, his recent interview about never getting his rematch for the Universal Title and his promo prior to his match on Raw all have a Heel vibe to me.

You of course still have the rainbow t shirt and the flashy entrance which scream face but everything else about him lately shouts Heel turn to me.

He has also qualified for MITB so will add an interesting factor into that match as there is plenty of Braun (intentionally written that way for punnage) in the match with Strowman and Balor adds the flair.

I love MITB and im starting to get excited about it already
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I think a Balor heel turn might be happening, Raw is babyface heavy and they won’t turn Roman Reigns so my predictions for top talent heel turns on Raw this year are Dean Ambrose and Finn Balor. That will even things up.

Balor will hopefully be a cool heel that it’s still ok to cheer, he’ll just feud with babyfaces.
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Quote Roman Reigns vs. Finn Balor vs. Sami Zayn: This one is a qualifying match for the Money In The Bank ladder match, and is a No DQ match. Sami talks trash to both Roman and Finn after the bel rings, and Roman decks him with a right hand. Sami rolls out of the ring, and Reigns and Balor start going at it on the mat now. Reigns starts off strong with right hands and headbutts, but Balor stuns him with a dropkick. Reigns punches Balor onto the apron and Finn falls outside. Sami runs in the ring again, but Reigns drops him with a right hands too. Sami rolls back outside and the Big Dog stands tall in the ring. Balor gets back in the ring and starts working over Reigns, and he decks him with a dropkick. Sami gets back in and starts beating on Balor now. Reigns gets up and clotheslines Sami down, then throws Balor into the corner and hits some strikes on him. Reigns hits running big boot on Sami, and then a Samoan drop on Balor. Balor and Zayn surrounded Reigns now, and they double team the Big Dog. Balor and Zayn both stomp on Reigns as the crowd chants "Yes" and cheers. They clothesline Reigns outside, then they follow him down to the floor. Sami and Finn take turns beating on Reigns on the floor, and the fight spills out into the crowd. Reigns starts fighting back with right hands on both his opponents, but Zayn comes back with a big boot on Reigns, and Reigns falls into some production quipment on the floor. Balor hops up on a platform and hits the Coup De Grace on Reigsn on the concrete floor. Zayn then turns on Finn and drops him on the floor, and then throws him back over the barricade to the ringside area. Sami takes Balor back into the ring to continue the offense. Sami beats on Balor until Balor comes back with a Pele kick. Cole says Reigns still hasn't moved from where Finn left him on the floor in the crowd. Balor lays into Sami with strikes, then hits an elbow drop for a two count. Sami begs for mercy and says they need to focus on Reigns, but Balor continues pummeling on Sami. Sami pulls Finn's trunks and throws him outside, and Finn starts selling a knee injury. Sami rolls outside and charges, but Finn jumps up and stops him with a Sling Blade on the floor. Balor charges now, but ami stops him with a boot to the face. Sami pummels on Finn now, until Reigns comes flying over the barriacade onto Zayn. Reigns pummels on Zayn on the floor then throws him into the ring post. Reigns hits the drive by kick, then throws Sami back in the ring. Balor tackles Reigns from behind and Reigns falls into the ring steps. Balor gets on the apron and boots Sami in the head, then he climbs up top. Balor misses, and Sami suplexes Balor into the turbuckle. Sami looks for the big boot, but Reigns bocks it with a Superman punch. Reigns looks for a spear on Sami, but Balor runs in and hits the Sling Blade on Reigns. Balor goes for the Coup De Grace and misses, and Reigns drops him with a Superman punch. Reigns wants a spear on Balor now, but Jinder Mahal comes out of nowhere and trips Reigns. Sami boots Reigns in the face, then Balor boots Sami and hits the Coup De Grace on him. Finn covers and scores the three count on Sami.

Winner: Finn Balor

- After the match, Jinder walks through the crowd stares at the three competitors laying in the ring. Finn Balor has now qualified for the Money In The Bank ladder match. Reigns gets to his feet at ringside as Balor celebrates in the ring. Michael Cole signs off and RAW goes off the air.

I still struggle to see why he's so popular. He's got a nice theme song people can put their hands in the air to and he's linked to Cathy Kelly, but beyond that nothing.
 
He's got a cheesy grin, hangs out with two nerdy mates that have been moved away from him, looks like a stripper topless oiled up in his leather jacket and in the real world would be beaten up by nearly everyone on the main roster.
 
He can't be put in realistic fueds with guys like Braun or Brock, because in the real world one good hit by them and it would be game over. It would be like Amir Khan and Kel Brook moving up in weight to box far better guys. You're only in the fight until one good connection and then the power difference is too much.
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I thought i was brutal but sometimes Adders you take it to new levels LOL

I never really used to be a fan of Balor but alot of the things you mentioned could be applied to most people on the roster.

I like him and think hes super talented
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Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

I thought i was brutal but sometimes Adders you take it to new levels LOL

I never really used to be a fan of Balor but alot of the things you mentioned could be applied to most people on the roster.

I like him and think hes super talented 

He's a good addition to the roster, but I wouldn't have him near the Universal title picture.

205 Live he would give the brand a boost and make a great future champion.

Being a small guy it would be a bit more realistic with him playing the heel, where he can cheat to gain an advantage that his height and size don't give him.
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He's not really any different than AJ Styles or Daniel Bryan in terms of size or skill. The guy is pretty great. Sure he's small, and a lot of people have a problem buying into a small guy, and that's fine, but if you can accept either of those two as WWE Champion, then there's no reason Balor should be hard to buy into, either.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote L-shizzel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10/May/2018 at 01:09
If Rey Mysterio can be a world champion then I don't see how Finn Balor can't be a champion and he'll be a much better champ then most
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My wrestling fandom started and peaked in the early 90’s so I’ve become accustomed to top stars being larger than life so it is a little hard for me to accept talent smaller than the average guy on the street as main eventers. Even the likes of Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels were 6ft and approaching 250lbs so they still looked like superstars.

For me though it’s not Balor’s size that’s the issue it’s his bland personality, in the ring he’s decent but he doesn’t stand out as it just seems half the roster work a similar style to him now of mixing up multiple kicks with a few high spots, all seems a bit unoriginal. The one thing that did make Balor stand out was his Demon King paint but it appears that gimmick has been canned as he hasn’t used it in ages, he didn’t even at Wrestlemania where I thought he definitely would.

If he resurrects the demon I could see him maybe as a fringe main eventer but as things stand I think high mid-card is where he’ll live. It’s a shame he didn’t move to Smackdown as the blue brand would possibly be a better fit for him.

Who knows if he does turn heel perhaps it’ll give his character a new edge and I’ll warm up to him a bit more.
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Mic time, Balor gets very little mic time. When I look at babyfaces especially but any character that fails to get over, the very first question I ask myself is how much mic time have they gotten recently.

Rollins is the most over babyface on Raw along with Strowman, and you know what both of them get that guys like Balor do not? Lots of time on the mic. Balor does get some, it's true, but not a mic in his hands and the cold open segments amount of time.

WWE needs to find a way to put the mic in the hands of more people. Even if it's just on Main Event/Superstars or whatever, give them time to talk to the audience and find a way to connect and evolve their character better.

Do you know what happens to a lot of failing babyfaces? They turn heel, and then what happens? They get the mic! Why did they turn heel? Why did they do what they did? All the sudden they're more relatable, even if they're in a bad place, the crowd can understand so they grow to like them anyways, and suddenly the heel is the crowd favorite.

Look at Nakamura, he can't talk hardly any English and when he does is sounds like his mouth is full of marbles. So his mic time was not only short, but bad because of how his time was used. Then he turns heel, and he stops talking, and lies saying he can't speak English and he starts teasing the people asking him questions. Suddenly he's a lot more relatable AGAIN, because we all know he cant speak it well, and since he keeps doing that wink when he says it, he's hilarious, too.

It's all in the mic time.

The fans don't want to be lectured about right and wrong. They don't want to hear about how things aren't fair, because life isn't fair. They want to hear a guy make a claim about what they're going to do, and then DO it, and that's just a bare minimum to keep the fans neutral. If someone is really going to get over with the fans and make a section of the fans fall in love, then they need to be interesting somehow, and without any mic time to allow the audience to get to know the character, they just can't get over.

Balor is a one dimensional character, played by a guy who is actually VERY GOOD at what he does, but without going in depth and studying the persons history throughout his career and watching key promos that define his character throughout, not just in his current run, then yeah, he is bland and boring.

USA network used to run commercials that heavily featured WWE wrestlers among other characters from their original programming with the tagline "characters wanted". Where is the character development these days? Where's the depth?

Say what you want about the guys career, but Bray Wyatt has had far more character development and has far more depth than anyone that's been around for roughly the same amount of time, and why is that? Because for better or worse, even when the feuds are bad his stories were told on the mic and heavily storyboarded out. Not Rollins, not Reigns, not Ambrose, Charlotte, Sasha, Becky, or Bayley, not AJ, or Asuka, no one has as much depth of character as Bray Wyatt. Whether you like him or not, its easy to feel like you know him.

Bray Wyatt is up there with guys like Daniel Bryan, and Chris Jericho, and The Miz who have had extensive time on the mic over much longer periods of time (barring Bryan who has received a very comparable push to that of Wyatt thanks in part to his underdog story followed by his injuries and retirement and return). 

So Finn Balor? Well... Fergal Devitt is NOT bland, and he has anything BUT a bland personality. The guys is quite interesting, and has developed some great characters for himself, and without a doubt in my mind if given enough mic time, Devitt could turn Finn Balor into an absolute star. 

But like Austin always says about his Stone Cold character, if he hadn't gone to Vince and requested more mic time, citing that with time on the mic he can be the biggest star in the company, but without it, he's just getting cut off at the knees and will never go anywhere, then he wouldn't have been anywhere near as big.

Devitt has to go to Vince, and develop a relationship with him, and earn his trust, not out during his performances, but backstage. Maybe then WWE will give him more time on the mic, because without time on the mic Balor will continue to be bland.
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Is there anyone on the roster who is in better shape, pound for pound, than Finn Balor.

Again im not really sure why he teamed with Strowman this week other than the fact they wanted Zigs and Mac to get a win over some big names.
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