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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LennyComa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26/June/2016 at 22:22
The EU is 100% full of elected members which is why there was a UKIP European M for a while a few years back. Scotland voted remain as they were told during the Indy ref that leaving the UK would mean leaving the EU which is believed to be a factor for the No campaign winning. Now we are being dragged out (every single county in Scotland voted remain. All of them) which proves our votes are only a Tie breaker so now I am all for a Indy Ref part 2 and this time YES is a real possibility for me next time around.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

I just read a report that said Civil War was coming to the UK. I'd laugh if there wasn't the smallest kernel of doubt in my mind. Things aren't really anywhere near that bad are they?

No it's not... The Corporate Mainstream Media owned by the likes of Murdoch et al, made sure the vote was seen to be nothing more than a racial vote, but it wasn't. Sure some voted that way but there were many other reasons why people wanted to leave.

I voted to leave because of the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) Trade Deal America is pushing. When Greenpeace dumped online a whole stack of files about TPP, how Obama et al are fiercely pushing for it, especially Fracking, across Europe during meetings behind closed doors with the European Union, and how they also told you the poisonous shit Fracking not only pumps into the air but also into the water, I wanted to leave

Someone mentioned previously that it was surprising that Labour Leader and the Tory Party Leader would be on the same page with this vote, and it *was* strange because by all rights Cameron should have been on the side of wanting to leave, but he wasn't and the arguments he presented for reasons to stay were bullshit anyway. Makes me wonder if he was voting to stay primarily because of TPP

Aaanyway, I hope we don't get another referendum, I hope we stay out of the EU and I hope Obama and crew continue to say the UK will be at the bottom of their bottom feeding pile of Trade Deals. I also hope the USA continue to believe that the Brexit vote was nothing more than a racial vote, cos that might make the Superdelegates standing firmly with a Corruption riddled, FBI CRIMINAL Investigation stalking, war mongering, racist, fascist, money laundering piece of shite suddenly shit their pants that a Trump Presidency is a strong possibility and move to stand instead behind Bernie Sanders

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rico Len Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27/June/2016 at 16:56
All I can say from here stateside is I wish you guys the best.

It would be horrendously hypocritical of Obama and the likes over here in power to penalize you for leaving the union for ANY reason after what we did 240 years ago with you. It's like, we're SUPPOSED to be this avatar of freedom, independence, and liberty, and lately if anyone does anything about that we want to put sanctions on them. Dude fuck that shit. Who would do something that stupid? Oh right, the people we elected into office and have forgotten they're civil servants and representatives, and NOT leaders. I really hope Gary Johnson pulls off a miracle and steals the election over here. If you vote for the lesser of two evils, evil still wins. Hillary and Trump can rot.
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Originally posted by LennyComa LennyComa wrote:

The EU is 100% full of elected members which is why there was a UKIP European M for a while a few years back. Scotland voted remain as they were told during the Indy ref that leaving the UK would mean leaving the EU which is believed to be a factor for the No campaign winning. Now we are being dragged out (every single county in Scotland voted remain. All of them) which proves our votes are only a Tie breaker so now I am all for a Indy Ref part 2 and this time YES is a real possibility for me next time around.


You realise if you leave the UK and join the EU you will be treated as you should be as a foreign country on our Island?

So a wall built across your border so if you want to leave Scotland for England it would be Texas/Mexico style border control with troops, sniffer dogs, passport control etc?

Taking the dog shit currency that is the Euro is mandatory for all new European Union countries so if you rejoin say goodbye to the British pound and hello to your new worthless currency.

You only have oil that's worth something. It's been proven that when the price to buy fell a fair bit that you would have struggled with money.

Nicola Sturgeon don't be fooled by her comedy Crankies look. She's an horrible woman, has bad motives and is trying to cause more bother rather than a togetherness.

Your planes fly over UK airspace so your travel prices would skyrocket as you either have to pay what's left of the UK to fly your planes above us or use more fuel to fly to other countries the long way round.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LennyComa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28/June/2016 at 14:53
1- Due to my parentage (English Father Scottish Mother) I will be a Duel citizen. Border control bothers me not as I am used to travelling across borders regularly but I doubt it will be the closed Border system, could be but I doubt it. I see it being more like a quick check of the passports if that and a drug dog sniff and on ye go. And it's Our Island too.

2- I am paid in Dollars so the Euro thing is not to much of an issue for me and the oil is still there and will be for a few years

3- Nicola Sturgeon over Farage or Boris any day. Especially Farage. He is a Nasty shit.

4- Air travel costs going up...maybe but if Scotland does leave the UK, I don't think it will be too bad tbh. Also works the other way round when flying North we could do same. .but I doubt it will happen as I doubt England would want the same applied to them anytime they fly over anywhere in Europe.
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The island belongs to the UK. If a country leaves the UK I assume it no longer has any say on the island or currency.

Immigration was by far the biggest topic. Yet the leaflets sent out by Labour through house doors totally blanked the issue.

Gideon Osbourne tried to scare people into voting to remain. Thankfully 17 million people didn't fall for it.

Heard some people say they voted to remain for future generations and their kids. That was the exact reason I voted to leave because I don't want the amount of people that can fill a city the size of Coventry being allowed in every year due to freedom of movement. This puts even more of a strain on our police, NHS, fire brigade, roads, dentists, schools etc.

Immigration is a good thing. Hospitals for example are full of wonderful immigrants. I've seen plenty of all different countries up there with my mum. What's bad is when people can't get a doctors appointment same day, can't afford to get on the property ladder due to an housing shortage and can't get their kids into their local first choice school.

350 million a week is a silly figure that the remain side say we save. But we will still save billions which should be ploughed back into public services so our emergency services get back the cuts (and more on top) that the remain side has took off them in recent years.
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