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    Posted: 30/June/2007 at 23:10
Personally, after many many many hours of research, and posting on youtube,  here's what I come up with:
 
Chavo Guerrero's goodbye:  He said he "spoke with Chris the day before he passed", which makes it what, Saturday according to the authorites timeline.  Why would Chris text people at the odd hours of the morning, when he just TALKED to them the night before.  He'd just call them if he wasn't trying to be quiet for some reason, right?
 
Text messages:
  • 3:53 AM - Chris Benoit's cell phone: "My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane, Fayeteville Georgia. 30215"
  • 3:53 AM - Chris Benoit's cell phone: "The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open."
  • 3:54 AM - Nancy Benoit's cell phone: "My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayeteville Georgia. 30215"
  • 3:55 AM - Nancy Benoit's cell phone: "My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane, Fayeteville Georgia. 30215"
  • 3:58 AM - Nancy Benoit's cell phone: "My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane, Fayeteville Georgia. 30215"
John Clary is a past wrestling star and also a World-Wide Evangelist.  He has written an article with good references behind his story, which I support 100%.  Check it out if you have faith in Chris' innocence.
 
 
I'll at least give Kevin Sullivan some defense, which is an interview from Fox News:
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286848,00.html (Fox news is not considered real news by most)
 
By now, I'm sure you all are following what I am figuring to be the truth:
Sullivan is the culprit.  Motive?  Check. Evidence? House-hold items in the Benoit estate.  The will to carry out the act?  Only Sullivan knows.
 
Kev Sullivan lives in Tavernier FL, Benoit family, in Fayetteville GA...719 mi -- about 11 hours 3 mins according to google maps. And Sherri Martel's mother lived in Birmingham AL, 875 mi -- about 13 hours 18 mins from Tavernier. This distance is only if Kevin returned home each time as well, IF he even has a house that far away. The possibilites are very possible this man did these hanus acts.
 
With mention of Sherri Martel (real name Sherri Russel), take note how she was found dead inside her mother's home a mere 10 days before the Benoit tradgety, cause of death only to be described as "unnatural".Shocked
 
Nancy's final WCW appearance (and professional wrestling appearance as the character 'Woman') took place on May 26, 1997 (a little over 10 years ago) on WCW Monday Nitro. 
 
And yes, there was a history of domestic disputes....4 years ago.  They have reconciled since then and the relationship was going fine.
 
I shall continue posting on this subject after seeing what everyone thinks.  Check out the perspectives mentioned above if you like.
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While I still can't believe that Chris would do something like this, I'm not of the frame of mind that he didn't do it. Trying to place the blame on someone else without any physical evidence is pathetic. Speculation is not fact.

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Next!!!!!
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I want to clear up something about Kevin Sullivan and everyone who thinks he took part in it....HE DIDNT!!! There is NO evidence AT ALL of him being the culprit, and besides, Benoit took Nancy away from him what, 11 years ago? Why would he wait 11 years? Thats a LONG time, not only that, but Benoits body was found, as been stated NUMEROUS times, hanging from a weight pully in the basement...ultimate suicide folks.
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I for one cant believe Chris would do something this bad, but all the evidence points towards him, so i pray that he had a very very good personal reason for doing it. I mean, no one can understand whats going through a parents head if they kill their own children, unless they are totaly psychopathic, which Chris wasnt, Chris was a loving father and husband, which makes it all the more surprising that it happened, but on the flip side, theres always the chance that drugs played a part ie, steroids, these are medically known to cause psychosis, but i dont want to go down that path, i want to believe  that in his mind he looked at it as  some kind of mercy killing to keep them away from harm.
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There are a few holes in the Kevin Sullivan/Satanist theory.

First off I highly doubt Chris Benoit would have sat there and done nothing while his wife and son were killed. Even if at gun point, he would have known it was only a matter of time until he was killed too, and there would have been signs of a struggle.

Secondly, Chris left a WWE show unexpectedly (claiming his wife and son were sick). Kevin Sullivan and the Satanist wouldn't have known Chris was going home. Its unlikely that they threatened him into making up the story and coming home, because Chris would have called police.

Lastly wouldn't there have been foot prints, finger prints or some sign of forced entry to the home?

I do find it odd that Chris had no motive, though.
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Also John Clary is a former member of the KKK, which is a Satanic organisation to say the least. Perhaps he's truly changed; but I'd pretty wary of him.

Edited by The SteelDragon - 04/July/2007 at 12:37
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"Speculation is not fact"....lol...well, as quoted from an online news site that covered the Benoit case as many others have; "Police have speculated that the WWE wrestler, Chris Benoit".....so, THIS speculation is fact I take it?  Because why?  Someone in blue said so?  Because no one in the world actually knows what happened in that house that weekend, but is the closest guess they can come up with....point made.
 
As for Kevin Sullivan....people that do know him (and don't particularly care  much for him, might I add), say he is the type who would rather "get even somewhere down the road rather than right at that moment."  Haha, even look at WWE's website at "Where are they now?"  He's on there and not even once says he misses wrestling "back in the day" like every other "liked" wrestling star.  Besides, you (IrishBastid) obviously know nothing of revenge.  Personally, I got a dooshbag that owes me about 2 grand for hitting my car while he was unisured.  This is why I have no respect for old guys over 60 anymore.  Lying, keniving, scheming pieces of crap.  More than likely, petaphiles as well.  That incident happened about a year ago as well.  Oh how sweet that revenge will be.  He owns his own business as well, so he has more to lose than I.  So you still think 10 years is enough time to get over things?  You're not married either I'm guessing.  Steal the love of my life?.?.?.I'll wait eternity for revenge.
 
Holes....ermmm, not really.  Footprints, not necessarily (was his home hardwood floors?), fingerprints, e-z solution, comfortable gloves.  In specualtion", he may not have been alone.  Although, if someone were threatening my family, no gun would stop me, unless it were pointed at the victim, that is.....ahhhhh haa.  And no, Chris did not leave an event(as far as I know), he simply did not show, but he did call in; to a Saturday night event and the PPV event, where he was supposed to win the ECW title that night.  After a panic and scramble of WWE writers, they threw in Johnny Nitro, who obviously took Benoit's place as both competitor AND title-holder.  Forced entry?  No reason...read the text messages.  "Garage side door is open"...an exit point as well, but why not the front door?  Afraid someone might see "someone" leave?  Kinda fishy.  And Clary says "his resources have told him that Sullivan is is high-ranking member of a satanic church".  Personally, with his history in KKK, I'd trust his resources, considering they're probably still into things of evil intent.
 
While the case still goes on, so does the world we live in.  This story has been put on the back burner by the media, and by me as well.  I am not really concerned with whatever results comeback, but the way the WWE handled this, I am very disappointed to say the least.  I no longer watch wrestling, or check it's website.  When there is praising being made about someone, WWE wants their recognition, but when a horrific event unfolds, involving a WWE member (who also happens to be at fault), they want nothing to do with that person and will accept no responsibilty what-so-ever to what that person has done, past or present.
 
Originally posted by mastadon76 mastadon76 wrote:

Next!!!!!
 
Next??  You gettin "trained"?
 
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I know a lot of people are still very confused by the Benoit family tragedy. How could a performer so in control in the ring, yet be so out of control outside of it?  It doesn’t make much sense.  But every day there is some new tabloid angle…
 
The police in this matter have NOT closed the investigation, it is still considered open and on-going.  Theories are fine.  But after reading this one, I’m not the least bit swayed.  Where are the facts to back it up?  It’s just more theory and conjecture by another ‘former wrestler.’ 
 
It seems like a near endless supply of ‘former’ wrestlers has surfaced lately, each eager to get some attention and wag their fingers at others for their own short-comings.  But I don’t want to hear from the guys years removed from the major promotions.  I want to hear from the guys in the WWE right now.
 
If Kevin Sullivan is a suspect than so is Nancy’s first ex-husband, Jim Daus?  But he wasn’t a wrestler, and nobody wants to hear about him.  He was just some guy that Nancy left years ago.
 
Yes, some people do think Nancy was a satanist.  Click here.  But to try to link the Benoit family deaths to Sherri Martell is just a bit too much.  Why not include Mike Awesome in that conspiracy theory? 
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If you really wanted to, I'm sure you could pin several wrestling related deaths to Sullivan (or anyone else in the business, for that matter). Problem is, it'd just be theoretical without any hard evidence.
 
Sure, the police don't know 100% what happened in the Benoit house over that weekend - they weren't there. No one other than Chris, Nancy and Daniel know what went on. Yes, everything they're saying about double murder-suicide is speculation until they have hard evidence to back it all up.
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Something was definatelly fishy about Chris Benoit's death. I don't deny that, but the text messages don't seem to favor the murder theory.

Perhaps Chris was told what to say on the phone calls and was under duress and drugged...still seems unlikely.

If the murder theory was correct, then I doubt the text messages were sent by Chris.
If he'd had a chance to use the phone without the murders knowing, he probably would have called the police. Its easier to make a call then to text message. Assuming for some reason he had to text message instead of calling; he would have mentioned his family was in grave danger.
I doubt the murders would have let him send out text messages. If they were so calculated in making it look like a suicide, they wouldn't have blundered leaving Chris untied, unwatched in a room with both his cell phone and his wife's.
Either Chris was murdered and the killers sent the message right before leaving to make it sound like suicide or Chris decided to commit suicide and sent the message right before hanging himself.

The odd thing is that the message said the dogs were contained in the pool area, yet the police had trouble entering the house for fear of the large dogs...doesn't make sense if the dogs were locked up.

Also I find it hard to believe someone snuck onto the property without being detected with two large rotweilers there. They are a very protective type of dog.

The toxicology report should shed some light on the matter.
There were empty beer and wine bottles found there. Benoit was known to have disliked beer. Its possible that under the circumbstances he started drinking heavily. Stress often causes people to drink that normally wouldn't. Of course if he didn't normally drink he probably wouldn't keep beer and wine in his house. To be thourogh, I'd check nearby convence stores, to see if they could place Benoit buying the beer and wine. The toxicology report will also show if Benoit or his wife consumed that alcohol. If not then who did? (The killer might have worn gloves, but you could get dna samples from where the lips touched the bottles or cans)

If Chris Benoit saw Kevin Sulivan in his house, he would have known very well that Kevin planned to kill him and didn't plan on leaving any witnesses.

(I'm not saying Kevin definatelly did it, or Benoit definatelly did it, or that it couldn't have been someone else entirelly...but there are a lot of things to consider that in my opinion haven't even been looked into)

Kevin Sullivan booked Chris Benoit to win the WCW world title at Souled Out. Benoit won it, but jumped ship to the WWE the very next day. Kevin booking Chris to become world champ could have been a sign the bad blood between them was over. On the other hand Chris jumping ship to WWE after Kevin booked him to win gthe title was part of what got Kevin fired.

Looking back Chris Benoit once said he respected Kevin, because inspite of what was going on behind the scenes was professional and pulled his punches in the ring.

I'd really like to find out what Kevin Sullivan was up to that week end. If he was in Florida working at his gym the whole week end, it would pretty much clear his name. If no one could verify his whereabouts, it would give suspicion.

Edited by The SteelDragon - 08/July/2007 at 01:33
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