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    Posted: 29/April/2020 at 11:03
I can't believe there isn't already a thread on this show. Surely somebody else has been watching it besides me? It's on the Vice Network here in the States. I'm not sure about what channel to find it in Britain or elsewhere, but I'm pretty sure it can be found in streaming. 

The best episodes so far have been the ones on the Bruiser Brody murder, the Chris Benoit murder/suicide, The Fabulous Moolah and her pimping, Superfly Jimmy Snuka murdering his mistress, and the Dino Bravo murder. They also have ones on the 1997 Survivor Series screw job of Bret Hart, the history of the relationship between Macho Man & Elizabeth, the 1998 Brawl For All, the career of New Jack (including the Mass Transit match), and other interesting happenings and scandals throughout the wrestling world. They interview people who witnessed the subjects' lives and were a part of things along the way. Sometimes it's stuff you know, but covered from a new light. Other times, it's stuff, at least from my perspective, I did not. 

If you watch only one episode, have it be the Chris Benoit one. They also briefly cover Eddie Guerrero's death in it as well as a lead up to how it affected Benoit. They interviewed Vickie Guerrero, Chavo Guerrero Jr., Dean Malenko, David Benoit (Chris' surviving son who is trying to break into the business), and Nancy's sister. I actually think I can understand what was in Chris' head from the episode (which is a whole other story I'll get into if someone wants.) The episode ended with Chavo consoling David and the families of Chris and Nancy reunited.   

As I'm a fan of Dino Bravo and International Wrestling (the Montreal territory him and Gino Brito booked), I enjoyed the episode about him. They talked about Dino's career in Montreal, his leap to the WWF, and how he got into the the mob controlled tobacco business in Canada. They interviewed Gino Brito, Jimmy Hart, The Mountie Jacques Rougeau, Dino's widow, and Dino's daughter. The words from Dino's daughter were really sad, as she was only six at the time of her father's murder. 

The Fabulous Moolah episode explored the pimping allegations against her. I had researched these allegations before and was heavily leaning towards the fact that she pimped out Sweet Georgia Brown. This episode only confirmed my theory. They interviewed Princess Victoria, whom for some strange reason is defensive of Moolah even though she admitted Moolah tried to pimp her out, too.  

The Superfly Jimmy Snuka episode left me with no doubt that Snuka is indeed responsible for the death of his mistress (which also was an opinion I already held beforehand but this further fortified it.) They interviewed her surviving family including her sister. 

The Brawl For All episode had interviews from Bart Gunn, Butterbean, The Godfather, Vince Russo, and Jim Cornette. I'm sure we've all seen Cornette's rants on this before; but they also talk about how Cornette threatened to kill Vince Russo and Russo's subsequent restraining order. For the record I seem to be the only one on the planet who enjoyed the Brawl For All matches. 

In a few weeks to come is one on Owen Hart. 

Seriously there is a lot to this show.  


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I've binged through it last week or the week before.


I was shocked at the screwjob episode, first time I've seen Bret portrayed in a bad light over it.

Benoit episodes were a tough watch


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I wasn't aware the first series is available to watch in the UK on catch up......


I am only really interested in the Montreal and Moolah episodes but I might give the other four a chance.


Season 2 looks a much stronger set of episodes and I hope they decide on a season 3 because so many more topics can be spoken about.
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Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

I hope they decide on a season 3 because so many more topics can be spoken about.

I want them to do an episode on the Edge, Matt Hardy, & Lita love triangle. 

There's certainly a lot of shit that's happened in wrestling over the years. Fuck's sake, five different episodes, (Chris Benoit, Dino Bravo, Bruiser Brody, Superfly Snuka, Gino Hernandez) deal with murder or manslaughter.

I aim to watch the Owen Hart episode likely this weekend.  

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I watched the Owen episode, what a eye opener it was. 

WWE should not have continued with the event it should have been a no brainer to call it off and refund the fans in attendance. Fans, announcers, wrestlers and anyone who witnessed the tragedy would have been hugely traumatised, not to mention the fact the arena was subject to a police investigation and the ring was damaged from Owen's fall and it was said to be stained by his blood, imagine being a wrestler going out to perform just minutes after your friend has plummeted to his death and you have to act like nothing has happened and go about your business in a ring broken from his fall and stained with his blood. 

It seems that WWE did not use a professional rigging team to secure Owen's harness, the clip holding Owen in place was introduced to allow a quick release when Owen had ascended to the ring, this clip obviously released far sooner than planned and was the cause of death, if a proper risk assessment had taken place prior I'm pretty sure this mechanism would have been seen as unsafe for use, a carabina clip was used previously which are used for rock climbing harnesses but this was abandoned as apparently it took Owen too long to release the harness when he landed and WWE felt it looked too clumsy. 
Martha demonstrated on the episode that only a small amount of pressure would cause the clip used to release. 

All things considered I do not blame Owen's family at all for blaming WWE for his death and for wanting no part of a Hall of Fame induction for Owen, it's a shame to not see his great wrestling career celebrated but I completely understand their reasons. Martha came across as a very understanding and forgiving person but her husband was tragically taken from her at a young age leaving her behind and their two children who were very young at the time in a accident that it seems could have easily been avoided if proper care and precautions had been taken, add to the fact much of the Hart family already had a low opinion of WWE and that chances are Owen would not even be there if WWE hadn't refused to let him out of his contract when he requested it following the Montreal screw job. 
This whole situation was a tragic mess that has actually made me have a lower opinion of Vince McMahon now I know more about it. It's heart breaking to know that all Owen wanted was to provide for his family and wanted out of the business while still fairly young to go live a quiet life with his wife and kids which he never got to do.


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