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Well, he´s already got a line of challengers lined up who want to fight him... amongs them former Power Ranger Jason Frank (who played the "evil" green ranger) - Frank already has 4 wins in 4 amateur MMA Fights under his belt and challenged Punk to make his pro debut fight a pro debut fight for them both.

to me, that´s the perfect opponent, actually. he fit´s the weight class, he´s a guy who already fought MMA, but not to the extent where he would totally obliterate punk. He´s also someone who, believe it or not, has a fan following, so the fight would be guaranteed to not stink out the joint.

However, Punk has stated that he´s looking at 6 months training his ass off before his first fight.
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UFC scored a walk off grand slam with @DanaWhite's signing of former WWE superstar @CMPunk. The signing itself was a major news maker plus the ability to document Punk's training for his first fight which is still TBA should make for great TV on Fox. Punk has long been an aficionado and student of MMA having trained in Muay Thai and Gracie Ju Jitsu. The 36 year old will likely become obsessed in his training and is used to being considered an under achiever which will serve as a motivator for the former WWE World Champion as many  MMA diehards who want to see Punk get beaten to a pulp and every wrestling fan who wants to see the Chicago born fighter succeed.

I'm curious to see what camp Punk joins as that, to me, is a huge issue on how successful Punk will have a chance in becoming. Plus, there is no lock that Punk can make it successfully through a tough, organized MMA Camp.

Make no mistake about it, win or lose, Punk will sell PPV's especially on his first one and he will be as prepared as one an possibly be in the time that he has to train between now and fight night in the Octagon. I don't think Punk has any fear but he also is intelligent enough to realize that he's in an up hill struggle of which he's been before. Make no mistake, I'd bet every UFC fighter, young or old, with a pulse will be wanting to have Punks's first fight. Bottom line, Punk on PPV equals cash.  

Punk, unlike Brock Lesnar, isn't a former NCAA All American or a D1 National Champion but his heart and passion may tell another story. If UFC plays there cards strategically, Punk's PPV debut will add greatly to any under card that is booked. The curiosity factor to invest in Punk's first PPV will be big time. Speaking of Lesnar, Punk signing with UFC adds another wrinkle to the potential negotiations with Lesnar and UFC and/or Bellator. Interesting days lie ahead as it relates to contract negotiations. Punk signing with UFC helps Lesnar's leverage without question.


His first fight will sell really well, but his performance will have to be convincing if he's to maintain that level.

He's not very likely to ever headline a UFC PPV card so that might bother him with his known arrogance.

If he earns as much as he did in E then the switch can be deemed a success from the time spent on the road.

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I would think, money-wise, that if Punk won by a technicality, or some stupid cheap shit, like when what's-her-ass beat Gina Carano, the second match would draw even more than the first. Haters would be pissed and chomping at the bit even more to see him get his ass beat, and fans would be just that much more amped to see how he did in his second outing.
 
But he's got to win, and I'm no where near convinced he'll be able to do it.
 
Hey Adders, oughtn't we split this somewhere and put it in the MMA forum?
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Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

He's not very likely to ever headline a UFC PPV card so that might bother him with his known arrogance.


Um sorry but this is so invalid. Whether or not you personally believed Punk was the best in the world as a pro wrestler or not he at least had an argument where he could have been exactly that. As an MMA fighter he is so far down the list in terms of ability (which he concedes to be) that he will never headline any UFC fight card, little known a PPV. He has admitted that he now only has a small window to do anything of significance in the sport and that significance is no where even near headlining a PPV. 

He will be chucked on FOX fight cards and possibly get the first fight on the main card to a PPV at the very most if he is successful in his first couple of fights. That's it 
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Originally posted by NFaMouZ NFaMouZ wrote:

Originally posted by admin admin wrote:

He's not very likely to ever headline a UFC PPV card so that might bother him with his known arrogance.


Um sorry but this is so invalid. Whether or not you personally believed Punk was the best in the world as a pro wrestler or not he at least had an argument where he could have been exactly that. As an MMA fighter he is so far down the list in terms of ability (which he concedes to be) that he will never headline any UFC fight card, little known a PPV. He has admitted that he now only has a small window to do anything of significance in the sport and that significance is no where even near headlining a PPV. 

He will be chucked on FOX fight cards and possibly get the first fight on the main card to a PPV at the very most if he is successful in his first couple of fights. That's it 

Exactly this. Punk himself knows that he´s at the very bottom of the pecking order in UFC now, and that´s where he should be. I guess Dana White will definately put his first fight on a PPV, considering that Punk will draw buys in his first fight, but he´ll be either somewhere in the undercard or even opening. It would be stupid to put Punk in the main event as that would potentially alienate some of the diehard UFC Fans (considering that there´s the "fake" wrestler coming in, taking the limelight on his first fight). 

I still believe Punk will be as ready as his body can be for his first fight and will do better than most of you will give him credit for. 
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Hey Adders, oughtn't we split this somewhere and put it in the MMA forum?


Probably. When his first opponent is announced we could make a match thread.

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Punk note...for those wondering how UFC is going to utilize Punk considering that he has approximately 6 months to train before his first UFC fight, I find that an easy answer to provide anyone who's interested. UFC has plenty of TV programming to produce and documenting Punk's journey from time to time will make good TV programming. That's a win....just ask Fox Sports.  Just like dating, at times the journey is greater than the end result which in this case will be Punk's first, UFC fight. For anyone that doesn't see how Punk has ALREADY been a success in UFC, then they are in need of a marketing/promotion class.  

By the way, thanks for the positive feedback on my CM Punk to UFC stories onfoxsports.com and here on Monday's blog.



I would expect at least one documentary style show to be done on him where he bashes E some more without mentioning them by name.

It won't look good if he loses his debut fight because it's not like he will be starting with an opponent as strong as Brock did in losing his own debut.
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Punk headline a UFC show, sure in terms of experience and skills he has no business doing that but fact is he will draw big for UFC attracting hardcore MMA fans who want to see him get the shit kicked out of him as well as wrestling fans wanting to see him succeed as well as casual MMA and wrestling fans who will watch out of curiosity. For example I'm a wrestling fan with no more than a passing interest in MMA but much like I did with Lesnar's fights I will tune in to see Punk fight because as a wrestling fan I'm interested to see how he transitions into the octagon.
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He'll win his first couple of fights no doubt, when UFC signed other freak shows like Kimbo Slice he was given a total mismatch against Houston Alexander, one of the smallest heavys out there.

Looking on the UFC roster to see who he could debut against (stop entertaining the idea of that fucking Power Ranger fight, it's never happening) maybe someone with a spotty record like Dylan Andrews. Then give him someone terrible like Cathal Pendred.
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Finished listening to both podcasts, enjoyed them, I'm not a fan of Punk but the guy is a great talker and keeps you interested in what he's saying, I enjoyed the banter between him and Colt as well.

It did sound like he was bitter and he contradicted himself a few times, most notably saying he wasn't all about the money but then constantly moaning about being underpaid, but on the whole he sounded pretty genuine and I believe he was just burned out and in pain which had caused him to lose his passion for the business.

The first podcast was by far the better where he told his story, the second was disappointing as they didn't answer any fans questions(due to the email server crashing apparently) and it was mostly just the two of them rambling and telling random stories.

If he does work for WWE again we will be talking a decade away at the most, this is comparable to Bret Hart where the bridges have been completely burned for now as Punk is understandably pissed about being fired on his wedding day. I think he will return to wrestling in a few years but not with WWE.

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Ronda Rousey was asked about CM Punk in an interview:

Quote  I think everybody on Earth would love to see him back in WWE, and I would completely fall all over myself and be honored if he wanted to be involved with me in any way, shape or form. But also, it’s not all about everyone else. It’s his life and it’s about him. He’s doing what he enjoys, what he’s passionate about and what brings out the best of him.

I’m sure there’s a lot of people that wish I would come back to fighting, but you know what, I don’t fight for them, and he doesn’t wrestle for us. He should do what he wants to do and what makes him into the person he feels like he’s meant to be. If that’s fighting right now, then all the power to him. Fight to your heart’s content. Everyone in the world knows he has a gift for wrestling and he has something special, and if he ever feels like sharing it with us again, then hell yeah, please, even if it’s not with me, I just hope I’m there to see it. If he never wants to get back in that ring again, he has every reason not to, and all the respect in the world from me.


This topic just wont go away - everyone has an opinion on it and every WWE superstar is asked about it.


For me, if the door was completely closed from the WWE side of things, there would be a lot more corporate answers basically shutting the story down.


I know things weren't exactly great between the two parties but as has been stated in previous threads - alot of people have left on far worse terms and returned to WWE.



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