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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fletch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15/September/2017 at 22:09
Quote – Brock Lesnar’s Universal Title defense against Braun Strowman at No Mercy 2017 will be his final televised Title defense of 2017. This doesn’t mean that Lesnar is going to lose the Title (he won’t, he’s currently expected to retain), but that he won’t have any more PPV Title matches in 2017.

This means that Lesnar won’t work the TLC 2017 Raw-exclusive PPV either and the next Universal Title match (after No Mercy 2017) will most probably be at Royal Rumble 2018 PPV. We’ll keep you updated regarding Lesnar’s status.


So once again Brock takes a long sabbatical as champion. It's dumb and needless booking, why not put the strap on Strowman until the Royal Rumble where Lesnar can win it back if that's what they want?

It makes a mockery of the whole 30 day defence rule that everyone except Brock has to follow and it also makes a joke of his reign, I mean 12 months as champion by Wrestlemania but probably less than 6 title defences in that time frame.

I don't mind sporadic appearances by the champion and if they officially extend the 30 day defence rule for champions that's not even the worst thing as it gives the title matches more meaning, but they would need to do this for everyone not just Lesnar.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15/September/2017 at 22:33
So he'll miss the October PPV, Survivor Series (Which isn't an issue anyway), and whatever is will be in December?

Yeah WWE need to pull the switch here to at least make things interesting otherwise we'll just be having a bunch of guys fighting for 3 months over who gets to face Lesnar at the Rumble.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dukezilla Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16/September/2017 at 01:40
He appeared at the SmackDown house show on Wednesday, throwing around his impersonator Dolph Ziggler.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fletch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16/September/2017 at 10:32
Originally posted by Baz Baz wrote:

So he'll miss the October PPV, Survivor Series (Which isn't an issue anyway), and whatever is will be in December?

Yeah WWE need to pull the switch here to at least make things interesting otherwise we'll just be having a bunch of guys fighting for 3 months over who gets to face Lesnar at the Rumble.


If we were still in the 4 PPV era this would be fine but there is a expectation now that the champ will defend at least once a month sometimes more and of course there is the supposed 30 day rule which Lesnar is apparently exempt from, something that has never been explained which I find a bit insulting to the intelligence of the fans.

Maybe WWE could invoke a new ruling where the champ only has to defend at major events, B-shows could become optional, I don't really mind this as it does add extra value to the title and make each championship match more of a big deal, it's the same formula big boxing and MMA fights use, few and far between meaning bigger buy rates due to the anticipation that is built over a long period of time.

The annoying thing with Lesnar is how this rule only applies to him and has never been explained.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NFaMouZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18/September/2017 at 03:21
Only having title defences at the big 4 PPVs will be a huge thing to get people behind though and would mean a huge change in the fifty fifty booking that's been happening over the last decade. Making a really big deal of finding a number one contender really does excite me but its just not sustainable in pro wrestling when you are trying to gather interest in B shows. 

You can't compare it to MMA where a title has been defended at every PPV. The UFC has 10 belts so the whole top 10 rankings can happen where you can have a series of matches with top 10 ranking implications while still putting on a title fight to end the PPV to interest people enough to buy the event. 

Non title matches just mean nothing in the WWE which is why it just won't work. Now in 2017 I literally could not care about 75% of something that's not the main event unless it was a match involving Braun. In the UFC, you can see the rankings and identify a fighter's path to the title and really get pumped for those matches. Unless WWE bring in a similar system it just won't work. 

Meaningless matches is the exact thing that has me uninterested in the product and dropping title matches down even further won't help unless a huge shift with rankings happens which it won't. 

All Hail Mitchell Johnson and David Warner.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fletch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18/September/2017 at 19:35
It would be a good arrangement if WWE had more of a structure to their PPV's. I've said for years they should bring back King of the Ring for example and that is a good event to not have a title match as the tournament is the focal point. shows like Money in the Bank are also good shouts for no title match as there is a theme there that should draw people in without the championship being a part of it.

I wouldn't mind seeing the title defended maybe six times a year. So say the Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, Summerslam, Clash of the Champions, and then a couple more, maybe Starrcade if it comes back as a full event as rumoured.

Putting more of a structure to the World title scene is fine and I have no issue with WWE investing more time in number one contenders matches etc as it gives the title more value and it also allows for secondary titles like the Intercontinental belt to take centre stage for a short time.

As I've mentioned the thing I don't like is how this formula only applies to Lesnar and WWE don't ever offer a explanation as to why. As soon as Brock drops the title no doubt they will revert back to the champ being on telly every week and defending at every PPV.
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Originally posted by NFaMouZ NFaMouZ wrote:


You can't compare it to MMA where a title has been defended at every PPV. The UFC has 10 belts so the whole top 10 rankings can happen where you can have a series of matches with top 10 ranking implications while still putting on a title fight to end the PPV to interest people enough to buy the event.


It is not a comparison. It has been a kayfabe rule since at least the 1980's when I first started watching, that the title needs to be defended every 30 days. I remember Bobby Heenan trying to call out Hulk Hogan and saying he should be stripped of the title for defending his title for the first time in 31 days instead of 30.

It was made an issue during the Hitmans title reign as well.

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Many talents have been stripped of titles for being injured and not being able to defend within 30 days so it just makes a mockery of this rule that has been around for decades when Lesnar is made exempt from it without WWE even attempting a explanation. Even if they said Brock has a exclusive contract where he only has to work a certain number of dates regardless of if he's champion or not, that would be better than nothing.

What frustrates me is it's so unnecessary. Brock doesn't need the title, he didn't have to win it from Goldberg, for that matter Goldberg didn't need to be champion. They had a golden opportunity for Lesnar to dump the title at Summerslam without being pinned but instead they would rather Brock take the belt home for three months unless Strowman wins on Sunday which I doubt.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rico Len Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22/September/2017 at 02:04
See, and NOW is the time that a WCW sized rival could be taking advantage of the poor state of things. I wish the industry would figure shit out. SOMEONE needs to take it to the WWE, because their booking and ratings are weak and vulnerable.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dukezilla Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21/October/2017 at 21:25
Reading reports that Brock will be doing select European tour dates in a couple weeks. Two of which are a live event in London and Raw in Manchester.
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